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How did the Minnesota defense slow down Nikola Jokic, Jamal Murray and the Nuggets offense to advance to the 2024 Western Conference Finals? This detailed film breakdown & scouting report explores their scheme to stop Jokic, adjustments throughout the series, Game 7 comeback, Anthony Edwards, Karl-Anthony Towns, Defensive player of the Year Rudy Gobert and more.
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@miloobrzut5497
@miloobrzut5497 24 дня назад
"They got KD but we got Jaden McDaniels" is a quote that will go down in history
@discowolf25
@discowolf25 24 дня назад
Yeah as accurate.
@mr.bellefleur
@mr.bellefleur 24 дня назад
Especially if they win
@shanemathre
@shanemathre 23 дня назад
Idk. I think luka gonna cook jayden this series.
@quince537
@quince537 23 дня назад
​​​@@shanemathreit'll probably be much better to have Ant on Luka since McDaniels is smaller. McDaniels can guard kyrie. With that in mind idk the numbers on the Luka v Ant matchup, but they'll probably both do their thing regardless
@rickayy831
@rickayy831 23 дня назад
@@quince537mcdaniels is 6”9?
@tekkenman7
@tekkenman7 24 дня назад
Kat deserves all the praise. He stepped up big time in game 7.
@chrispfeiffer6905
@chrispfeiffer6905 24 дня назад
That was for all the haters lol. I think Kat is showing a lotta growth. And people were talking about trading him…
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je 24 дня назад
KAT deserves a lot of credit but he's a lot stronger than Gobert but not quick like Gobert. Gobert roaming was doing far more damage on D than he was marking Jokic. Saying KAT deserves "all the praise" is ridiculous.
@andyj952
@andyj952 24 дня назад
@@David-iv6je youre splitting hairs with his statement. are you actually making a point or just trying to be right online? KAT guarded the MVP in games 6 and 7 and kept us in the game singlehandedly offensively in game 7 until his teammates came to the party late. He deserves an absurd amount of praise, especially for a guy who has been branded "bad defensively" and "not a winning player"
@ThatLampTho
@ThatLampTho 24 дня назад
Agreed. I was expecting him to disappear like how he used to but the man stepped up big time, i love it. This WCF is gonna be interesting
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je 24 дня назад
@@andyj952 Criticizing "all the praise" is not splitting hairs. The fact is, both deserve tons fo praise. Switching KAT onto Jokic maximized the impact of both KAT and Gobert. Gobert was a wrecking crew off ball and a liability on ball. COoch Finch deserves the greatest praise.
@lawbinson
@lawbinson 24 дня назад
This series was a masterclass in Basketball tactics and strategy.
@richy2258
@richy2258 24 дня назад
Yes. But it was ultimately decided by the Nuggets doing their best 2018 Rockets impression by missing a nauseating number of wide open shots. KCP, Jokic, Murray, and MPJ will likely never shoot that bad again in their lives, even when contested. But they were WIDE OPEN. It's mindboggling.
@mizzoutiger2694
@mizzoutiger2694 24 дня назад
@@richy2258 And the role players for the Nuggets will likely never shoot as good the rest of their careers as they did in games 3/4/5.
@WaveRider1989
@WaveRider1989 24 дня назад
As if Aaron gorden shooting 8/8 was the norm. ​@@richy2258
@Levi2743
@Levi2743 23 дня назад
​@@mizzoutiger2694that same argument could be used against the wolves too though... McDaniels two games in a row over 20 points with over 70%FG is an extreme outlier.
@HurricaneMike513
@HurricaneMike513 23 дня назад
@@Levi2743McDaniels has always had that potential though. He just plays with zero aggression 95% of the time. I personally think because he’s constantly high af. Whenever he plays with aggression he has these offensive spurts though. Dudes 6’9, long, and athletic lol
@alang8850
@alang8850 24 дня назад
The level of missed open 3 shots by Denver was extremely surprising. Also, Jokic played almost the whole of game 7. The nuggets lack of shooting and depth was the huge problem
@MistyKathrine
@MistyKathrine 23 дня назад
Yeah, Jokic averaging over 40 minutes a game this post season probably didn't help his shooting percentages. Unfortunately, the Nuggets bench is about as bad as the 2018 Cleveland Cavaliers forcing him to play heavy minutes to try and hard carry his team.
@HarryCrackz
@HarryCrackz 23 дня назад
That's what is insane about this Denver team. As crazy as Minnesota's defense is, if Denver make a couple more open 3s they likely win the series.
@Mrjhugr
@Mrjhugr 23 дня назад
@@HarryCrackz I also firmly believe that, we see two super open MPJ 3's in that video and one for jokic and KCP, each of them to either repel the Wolves comeback and one to get back to one point instead of being -6 after the counter. Huge difference from players that are expected to make these shots. Even Jokic going from 36% on 3 (career avg) to 23% on the series with a lot of wide open ones. Minnesota was incredible and completely exhausted them but those wide open shots should have gone in. The Nuggets can really regret these misses, I think Dallas would have been way easier for them match-up wise.
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 21 день назад
@@Mrjhugr Three pointers give inherently highly variable results. Especially from crap players like the two you named.
@kadinwilliams7474
@kadinwilliams7474 21 день назад
@@HarryCrackz I could easily make the case that if Minnesota made a few more threes they would have won the series as well.
@SB-in8rw
@SB-in8rw 24 дня назад
47 minutes Jokic, while 3 centers switch on him, Minesota did a good job tactically, defensively and overall. Malone should have rested Jokic more, when they had 20 points lead that was the perfect time. But the bench is non existant anyway... even starters were terrible. They miss Bruce Brown and Jeff Green a lot. How could you expect to play so many playoff games with only 2 big guys? (Jokic and AG)
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen320
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen320 24 дня назад
The coaching staff and front office is to blame, not MPJ or KCP. Denver needs to replace DeAndre Jordan and Zeke Nnaji with bigs that are actually playable in the postseason. Especially when Minnesota regularly has two or three 7 footers on the court at the same time. They should also focus more on keeping the starters healthy for next postseason, and worry less about seeding. Let the young guys off the bench play more to gain some confidence in their shot and defense, like P Wat, CB, and Strawther
@BigA678
@BigA678 24 дня назад
When Denver won 3 in a row Jokic fans were praising his stamina saying how he's the most conditioned in the league. Funny to me
@01chohan
@01chohan 24 дня назад
@@BigA678 Both are true.
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen320
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen320 24 дня назад
@@BigA678 At a certain point, it doesn’t matter how good his conditioning is. He’s still human just like you and I
@JasonAtlas
@JasonAtlas 24 дня назад
When a team doesn't win they may not have been bad then other team was simply better. However that means certain aspects they were outclassed/not good enough. So what do we blame here: Jokic The starters The bench The coaching Or A combination
@lawbinson
@lawbinson 24 дня назад
Denver not even fouling with 45 seconds left speaks to how defeated they felt.
@michaelahurt
@michaelahurt 23 дня назад
Yeah I think when Ant hit that three to go up 10 they mentally conceded the series.
@andreitaker3527
@andreitaker3527 23 дня назад
With how bad they got Denver lose on game 6 I'm surprise they still had motivation to play.
@ndnd7614
@ndnd7614 23 дня назад
They really thought those role players can repeat lmao get jokic a proper all star help.
@baldbald_bald
@baldbald_bald 24 дня назад
I was so disappointed when Draymond kept criticizing Gobert’s defense as if he could do better 1 on 1 against Jokic. Both of them are SYSTEM defenders that shine most when their rosters are communicating and working off eachother, but I guess that’s Draymond for ya.
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 24 дня назад
Draymond the most amazing defender last 50 years. To be that good at that size and athletic ability. Hes smaller than lebron, imagine lebron being the center on title run. Nothing stopping it
@nathanxu666
@nathanxu666 24 дня назад
​@@xavierb9061 brotha prime Lebron vs prime Draymond is a debate in itself. You put prime bron in the warriors defensive scheme and he woulda had a couple DPOY's too imo
@aaronperry3950
@aaronperry3950 24 дня назад
Amdrew Bogut and Kevon Looney exist ​@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 24 дня назад
@@nathanxu666 draymon play center, if bron could he would
@caydenrichmond9551
@caydenrichmond9551 23 дня назад
He was being intentionally ignorant
@VladimirElliot
@VladimirElliot 24 дня назад
Ant shut the water off second half on Murray
@FahadYasin13
@FahadYasin13 24 дня назад
Thought Murray was gonna have 50 ngl. God..
@phothewin6019
@phothewin6019 24 дня назад
That's what happens when you play in South Korea instead of North Korea.
@Kevin.Costner.
@Kevin.Costner. 24 дня назад
clamped me up too, i couldn’t go to the Kitchen i was glued to the game😅
@davidfebreeze428
@davidfebreeze428 24 дня назад
@@Kevin.Costner.the man is starving and ant still clamped him up😂
@mcshitums9362
@mcshitums9362 24 дня назад
@@phothewin6019KAT is the reason Gobert was able to bring a son into this world
@alofbaui
@alofbaui 24 дня назад
All that said and done their bench scored 13 and nuggets bench had 5. That's your game. Losing Bruce brown was devastating. He was a major force off the bench for them last year.
@willrobbins2550
@willrobbins2550 23 дня назад
In this game, the Nuggets bench was +6 and the wolves bench was -17. Nice attempt to try and simplify this but you’re not right
@antichaos
@antichaos 22 дня назад
@@willrobbins2550 Using plus minus in big 2024?
@willrobbins2550
@willrobbins2550 22 дня назад
@@antichaos all you ever do is troll. Have fun
@antichaos
@antichaos 22 дня назад
@@willrobbins2550 Using plus minus in 2024 is more of a troll than anything I could possibly do
@willrobbins2550
@willrobbins2550 22 дня назад
@@antichaos not if used correctly, which I did. You can’t gatekeep stats gtfoh. If you have anything coherent to say about the topic at hand go ahead if not seeya
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je 24 дня назад
It doesn't work if the Nuggets hit open 3s. Jokic missed a ton and the role players come up zero> And THAT was because they played only a 6 man rotation. 7 is the minimum viable.
@samuelmorse784
@samuelmorse784 24 дня назад
Colin was right. Nuggets have no bench
@Boogalyhu
@Boogalyhu 24 дня назад
You could just as easily say it wouldn’t have been close if Edwards was hitting open 3s. Jokic had a higher than avg ppg game 7. Ant had lower than his avg ppg. This wasn’t down to just one of their performances though. Minnesota won because of depth, and just outclassed the Nuggets over all.
@DaMonstaMasta
@DaMonstaMasta 24 дня назад
They played Braun, Watson, and Reggie so it was a 8 man rotation, they just could not replace not having Jokic on the floor. Which is why his legs were probably dead and couldn't hit jumpshots and having to hide him on defense.
@youtubewatcher4955
@youtubewatcher4955 24 дня назад
They got to the dance with that crew they gotta dance. No excuses. Should have picked better partners going into it.
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je 24 дня назад
@@DaMonstaMasta Check the box score: in Game 7, outside of their starting 5, the Nuggets played Braun 19:47, Holiday 9:13 and Jackson 5:26. That doesn't even add up to 6 men in time. Not sure WTF coach was thinking. That's what killed the 2018 Rockets after Chris Paul pulled his hamstring: a 6-man rotation so exhausted them, especially with their swarming defense that had beaten GSW thus far, they were gassed and started short-arming shots, leading tho that ridiculous stretch of missed 3s. Rockets win that series if CP doesn't pull that hammie. Maybe Nuggets win this game if Reggie Jackson plays 15 minutes and Braun plays 25.
@dylanbach8578
@dylanbach8578 24 дня назад
Even though so many of the games were blowouts, this series was on par with the bubble Celtics vs Raptors series in terms of back and forth adjustments from Stevens and Nurse. Definitely need a third rendition of this next year once the Nuggets make their roster adjustments and Timberwolves face the wrath of the CBA with NAW extension and Mcdaniels contract kicks in to see who really runs the north west division
@richy2258
@richy2258 24 дня назад
I think 80% of the time the Nuggets win that series. They were not great in game 1, sloppy, unprepared. Complete no show in game 2. Okay, that's on them. The missed WIDE OPEN shots in game 6 and 7 was a fever dream like when the Rockets went like 0-27 from 3. It wasn't a whole lot better than that, an is on par considering the talent and history of the shooters in MPJ, Jokic, Murray, and KCP who collectively had the yips like I have *NEVER* seen in my life.
@Edd-zd5wb
@Edd-zd5wb 24 дня назад
@@richy2258 Lol. Coping hard?
@phothewin6019
@phothewin6019 24 дня назад
That was such a good series. The Nuggets vs. Jazz series too. The Bubble playoffs had some amazing series.
@sparksup327
@sparksup327 23 дня назад
​@@phothewin6019& the crazy thing is, Conley & Gobert was on that Jazz team
@tomthumb4252
@tomthumb4252 23 дня назад
Undercover Nugs fan
@usamabinobama2857
@usamabinobama2857 24 дня назад
The transformation of this Timberwolves team since last season is incredible!! The times when the Rudy Gobert trade was seen as an all-time fleece is way past us now. Love this team and the intense ball pressure they bring on defense!!
@fredharvey2720
@fredharvey2720 24 дня назад
The transformation is their use of illegal contact tactics that are only allowed in the lower defensive box and they're getting away with it more often than not.
@michaelahurt
@michaelahurt 24 дня назад
That was still an awful trade. It was reckless and they gave up way too much. It's like a poker hand where you have Ace-10 and go all in with a jack showing. Just because you hit queen/king for your straight on the turn and river doesn't mean it was a good bet. It was still stupid. They just got really lucky a bunch of different ways. And they still have to win a title and keep Ant for the bet to pay off. Also they played their best defensive game all year _without_ Gobert. Just saying
@Anthonydu01630
@Anthonydu01630 23 дня назад
@@michaelahurtTheir best defensive game was game 6 lol, Nuggets only scored 70pts and they blow them up by 45 😂
@sebbyh9764
@sebbyh9764 23 дня назад
@@michaelahurtif you don’t think Gobert against the Mavs or Celtics isn’t a massive bonus, I’ve got news for you
@michaelahurt
@michaelahurt 23 дня назад
@@Anthonydu01630 Ahh. So you either didn't actually watch the game and just saw the score or don't know what you're watching. There's a difference between a team missing open shots and not allowing the open shots in the first place. In game 2 Minnesota was up 32 before backing off and Denver's starters chipped away at the lead a little. A lead they built by suffocating Denver's offense. In game 6 Minnesota's run was driven primarily by Denver missing open shots as they *scored* on 9 straight possessions. Only two of the nine off turnovers. Then Denver conceded early in the fourth and Minnesota's reserves beat up on Denver's reserves. To get to the final score.
@barbershopchop4143
@barbershopchop4143 24 дня назад
Thinking Basketball uploads, I click. That simple.
@GeronimoPlaz
@GeronimoPlaz 24 дня назад
Do you live in NORTH KOREA???
@hylandweb749
@hylandweb749 24 дня назад
Dude froze for a week😂
@nonebeach
@nonebeach 23 дня назад
thinking idiotically about basketball
@cjguitar.
@cjguitar. 23 дня назад
Thinking Basketball uploads, I advocate for people to stop bringing children into this world
@nor-in5kj
@nor-in5kj 23 дня назад
@@nonebeach thinking basketball still doesn't recognize awful coaching exists. I like it
@e.r.a2744
@e.r.a2744 24 дня назад
In the 90's I use to crave for some beautiful offence, never imagine how beautiful would be to see or watch some nice defence... back to the basics..! I love it..!
@roy7661
@roy7661 24 дня назад
6:14 gobert pushing naz reid into jokic preventing space making over naz reid. Great defence
@owmegwoagm
@owmegwoagm 24 дня назад
Respect for breaking this one down as well 🫡
@GoRavens520
@GoRavens520 24 дня назад
The Wolves hounded the Nuggets and the physicality took its toll. Plus the Nuggets bench is almost non existent offensively. They didn’t solve Jokic but made him work and the other guys didn’t show up enough, especially in game 7. Edwards didn’t have a great night offensively but the other guys did. Even Rudy was good, drew a bunch of fouls on the Nuggets. Wolves are championship material, even more so with the rules of emphasis.
@WolframeHDX
@WolframeHDX 23 дня назад
Yeah, at this point there really is no "solving" Jokic. Best you can do is slow him down/wear him out, which, thankfully, the twolves did. Rest of that nuggets team really let him down too
@Zemlja_je_ravna
@Zemlja_je_ravna 22 дня назад
Jokic is 3rd in played minutes in 4 seasons combined. What did they have only 1 month of rest after winning championship.
@malte5493
@malte5493 23 дня назад
I've been listening to the Thinking Basketball Podcast for 4 Years now. It's really amazing to see the steady incline in quality and personality over the years, not only with the podcast, but with the RU-vid side of things as well. For whoever is only consuming the yt thinking basketball content, I wholeheartedly recommend listening to the pod. Not only is it hart hitting analysis (as cody would say), but the charm and chemistry these two have is really something. For long stretches of the regular season, this podcast is really what keeps me into following the NBA. I am not much of a commenter most times, but I really had to get that out :) Much love from Germany
@andrewbarnes5745
@andrewbarnes5745 23 дня назад
If my memory serves me correctly KAT was a great defender in college and funnily enough, was one of if not his greatest strengths on his scouting report going into the draft. Donovan Mitchel is another guy who was touted as a strong on-ball defender but was a traffic cone in Utah. I believe Rudy brought that gritty, defensive culture to Minnesota and with ANT being a great leader they just have this absolute unit of defense together. Rudy is the heart of that defense and people are delusional to think he isn't worthy of DPoY. He moves well and positions well and with every score Jokic got he was still contesting. The reality is great offense beats great defense and you couldn't ask for a better defensive big than Rudy because he knows his role and embraces it entirely. He also hit clutch free throws when they needed it and that crazy fade away for good measure.
@ainnocent
@ainnocent 23 дня назад
I thought I was the only one that remembered this!!! KAT could play D when he wants to but people don't realize he was literally the Twolves offense for years.
@krizagbisit1637
@krizagbisit1637 23 дня назад
People will just hate his game, because he's not an American to be considered by this murican people as among of their basketball heroes. Jokic dropped an almost 40/20/10 game, and they still want more from him. They didn't even consider that he's the lone all-star from his team, thereby no one from his team will carry the other load as much as he do. His weight requires more energy, yet he played an entire game 7, while being considered an unathletic person, isn't it commendable? But muricans from this comments section will still hate his game and will blurt some fantastic words, such as defense, as if muricans know how to play defense, whilst losing FIBA world cups against non-NBA players, yikes!
@EEazyM0neySniper35
@EEazyM0neySniper35 24 дня назад
Before the series started Edwards said "they got the MVP but we got Jaden McDaniels" and people laughed. Jaden McDaniels dropped 20+ pts in game 7 on 7/10 shooting. McDaniels was the X-factor, it's hilarious that when Edwards said that that it ended up being all too true.
@radliffjeantinor9437
@radliffjeantinor9437 23 дня назад
before the SEASON started lmaooo
@samn90834
@samn90834 23 дня назад
he said they’ve got KD, we’ve got Jaden McDaniels before the Suns series. Are you sure he said that too? I don’t remember that at all
@rado22
@rado22 23 дня назад
Luka will cook both him and McDaniels
@tdot2351
@tdot2351 24 дня назад
Goon under a 7 footer’s ball screens makes sense to me. The NBA treats every player like they’re Steph Curry, it makes no sense. If Jokic wants to shoot pull up and off the dribble threes, let him.
@jesustenes2
@jesustenes2 24 дня назад
Spoelstra tried this on Jokic last year, iirc in game 5, and Jokic went 3/6 or something like that in the first quarter so they stopped leaving him open. His 3 needs to be consistent for Denver's offense to work, it can't be off for an entire series.
@tridra5714
@tridra5714 24 дня назад
heat didnt have the size
@joxmz5534
@joxmz5534 24 дня назад
Bam even he is a amazing defender is just 6'9, they had Caleb martin playing PF
@Edd-zd5wb
@Edd-zd5wb 24 дня назад
Literally sold the game with 0 defense and paired with Gordon, providing no space for anybody else to attack the rim
@RegularFlyGuy
@RegularFlyGuy 24 дня назад
Y’all have a hard time watching more than one player. MPJ, Murray and KCP have sucked big time. Its perfectly ok to not be familiar with everyone’s game since its quite normal. Its also fine to give an opinion on something you’re not familiar with. Denver does not need Jokic to hit his threes, they need their max contract players to not suck. We saw close to 90M worth of salary be bystanders for game 3-4-5-6-7 (half of game 7). Wolves’ roster showed up, Denver’s didnt.
@jesustenes2
@jesustenes2 24 дня назад
​@@RegularFlyGuy Ben comments in the video on this specific coverage on this specific player, which made me think of that finals game last year so I brought it up. But I agree, your thoughts on players sucking are more interesting. Also, that is one of the most condescending messages I have ever read.
@scottwinn5043
@scottwinn5043 23 дня назад
These breakdowns are outstanding every single time.
@AidanXavier988
@AidanXavier988 24 дня назад
I knew Ben would cover this game! Hyped for this drop
@db2921
@db2921 23 дня назад
He only covers 1 team Dude refuses to post anything good about Dallas or any other team besides this
@AidanXavier988
@AidanXavier988 23 дня назад
@@db2921 Stop whining, annoying Dallas fans everywhere I go
@ryanm4074
@ryanm4074 24 дня назад
gobert somewhat beating the playoff dropper allegations is something i did not see happening but that wolves coaching staff deserves alot of credit. great chess match kind of series
@Phriedah
@Phriedah 24 дня назад
If you listen to the players, the defensive effort was entirely led by Gobert this year, he's earned that DPOY for sure this year.
@MistyKathrine
@MistyKathrine 23 дня назад
@@Phriedah Yep, they bought into a defensive scheme he helped design and it's working well for them.
@Oppenheimer1967
@Oppenheimer1967 23 дня назад
@@Phriedah The Wolves are a top 3 defense without him
@Mage017
@Mage017 23 дня назад
Gobert was never a playoff dropper. He just had to make up for wayyyy more defensive weakness on the Jazz due their lack of perimeter defenders. Wolves as a team is literally setup perfectly for Rudy to fit into as arguably the best help defender in the league.
@RegularFlyGuy
@RegularFlyGuy 24 дня назад
Jokic went 34/7/19. This wasnt a “we figured out Jokic” type of effort. This was KCP, MPJ and Murray not showing up for 4-6 games. Murray decided to play for a half. Anyone who watched this saw how many wide open shots were missed by the Nuggets. What you qualify as a tough 3 really isnt. This went down as a team wanting it a lot more than the other. The Nuggets should feel embarassed.
@RoryChristopher
@RoryChristopher 24 дня назад
but the wolves forced jokic to shoot so many threes, where he also went 2/10, but you're right, no one else showed up at all in game 7
@Weebei
@Weebei 24 дня назад
Murray had a tough second half game. I still believe. Nuggets in 9
@rgonzalo511
@rgonzalo511 24 дня назад
​@@RoryChristopherNah don't throw KCP under the bus he showed up
@ryanw9122
@ryanw9122 23 дня назад
@@rgonzalo511 he had 5 points
@rgonzalo511
@rgonzalo511 23 дня назад
@@ryanw9122 Yeah that's a normal statline for him. He's just there too spread the floor, be a secondary ball handler, and play defense.
@timeakway7021
@timeakway7021 24 дня назад
This is the best breakdown I have seen of the wolves defense!!!
@phothewin6019
@phothewin6019 24 дня назад
The Nuggets played like they were in North Korea.
@bdrpogo1834
@bdrpogo1834 24 дня назад
Man of culture I see
@Jacob-gm4hq
@Jacob-gm4hq 24 дня назад
Any team that the Wolves beat apparently always beat themselves. This train is never late.
@carson.4612
@carson.4612 24 дня назад
WE LIVE IN NORTH KOREA
@18hot30
@18hot30 24 дня назад
@@carson.4612 came here to say this, and dammit i will
@thanhky5824
@thanhky5824 23 дня назад
KAT's defense in game 7 reunited North and South Korea
@terandrefoster3829
@terandrefoster3829 23 дня назад
Ive been waiting so patiently 😅...❤
@Erkkae
@Erkkae 24 дня назад
Amazing job with this one
@jm_e5385
@jm_e5385 23 дня назад
Brilliant analysis!
@benjousan8470
@benjousan8470 23 дня назад
We better get a Mavs video on how we stopped a top 5 offense/defense #1 defense by being better defensively 😎
@redbirdrising5734
@redbirdrising5734 24 дня назад
Thank so much, this truly allowed me to appreciate what the Wolves did. Excellent. Subscribed👌(great logo btw)
@gb1style
@gb1style 23 дня назад
At last an analysis I agree 💯 Well done
@danielodom9305
@danielodom9305 23 дня назад
What a series! Probably going to be the best/ most back and forth series of the entire playoffs when all is said and done! There were some highly competitive games!
@mikeamara7410
@mikeamara7410 24 дня назад
great vid about the defense turning into offense
@Shark_In_The_Box
@Shark_In_The_Box 24 дня назад
Man that’s a great video
@zacharydegraeve5264
@zacharydegraeve5264 23 дня назад
This wolves team is the best defensive team I have had the pleasure of watching in my lifetime. Huge Nuggets fan so it sucks. But this was a masterclass and is how I imagine people felt in 04 when the pistons made their unlikely run to the title upsetting big names along the way
@nikkomarcocabuhat3155
@nikkomarcocabuhat3155 23 дня назад
As a Nuggets fan this was painful to watch but this was a great breakdown. This loss will sting for a while but you gotta keep moving forward.
@ComicalInstrument
@ComicalInstrument 24 дня назад
I was so confused why Kat ran past those screens! It looked so weird. Thank you for the great video explanation.
@thearchivist250
@thearchivist250 23 дня назад
I literally have been waiting for this since the game ended.
@noname85808
@noname85808 22 дня назад
mike conley played an important part in this series as well, his ability to make smart and unselfish decisions helped the team to stay cohesive on both ends of the court. very underrated player and the game he was missing you could see that the team was simply not there.
@dariobalado4054
@dariobalado4054 22 дня назад
This is the best video of the month for me, about how the best defense stopped the best player in the league. La crème de la crème!
@anthonyrodriguez7950
@anthonyrodriguez7950 24 дня назад
Love this analysis - great series evolution by the Wolves
@fredharvey2720
@fredharvey2720 24 дня назад
This analysis is trash. What the Wolves are doing is using contact only allowed in the lower defensive box all over the court which is against the rules. They should be getting called on personal fouls left and right but the league is tolerating it, especially certain referees like Marc Davis who has been accused of being in the pocket of bookies for years.
@rolandmarkland6844
@rolandmarkland6844 23 дня назад
Very good analysis
@TheWhyPodJH
@TheWhyPodJH 23 дня назад
This is a great video, and I think it goes to show that even with the modern system of offenses/defenses, it comes down to: 1. The team that wins has to make shots 2. Pick your poison, make Jokic score rather than pass 3. In a 7-game series, it comes down to how much energy is left After all the strategies and tactics, we've come full circle.
@BasketballCoachesNetwork
@BasketballCoachesNetwork 23 дня назад
Minesota did an amazing job I am very suprised. Biggest problem I think was MPJ for Denver.
@bohanxu6125
@bohanxu6125 23 дня назад
It would be interesting to see what fatigue effect more, shooting or driving. You would image drive requires more gas, but one can sort of still make a decent drive on sheer will despite fatigue. On the flip side, when you are fatigued, your shooting muscle memory just naturally become worse, and will power doesn't really help that much. Of course, those are just guess. You need to somehow use data to see if the guess is true.
@weiwayne8505
@weiwayne8505 23 дня назад
This series is a masterpiece
@marc8317
@marc8317 23 дня назад
Finally Thinking Stupid Basketball drops
@speedy6953
@speedy6953 23 дня назад
They didn't solve Jokic, but Denver. The whole team played as if they were sleeping the whole playoff. Jokic was the only one who gave himself.
@ChibiMalzahar
@ChibiMalzahar 24 дня назад
Something interesting to me is that, yeah Jokic is a great shooter, but its primarily a counter. The wolves defense is always keeing in mind guarding the *entire system* more than just Jokic, and makes them beat them with their worst counters. What drives the offense is his post game, passing, and screen action. Even if Joker makes his jumpers, his teammates aren't comfortably doing their jobs either. Gobert is skilled enough to takeaway Gordon cuts, and the wings are aggressive enough to turn it into a Jokic shoot out. Denver is fine with that if it's in the post since Jokic is so dangerous in isolation. But the wolves have body after body to throw at the two man game, even their sixth man can do well on their best scorers.
@michaelahurt
@michaelahurt 23 дня назад
It was a good gambit but I also think it kind of shows how evenly matched the teams are and how few answers Minnesota really had. Let the three time MVP have wide open threes and hope he misses. That's our best strategy. Lol. That game was the definition of its a make it miss league though.
@Oppenheimer1967
@Oppenheimer1967 23 дня назад
I’d consider him a good shooter not a great shooter. Teams leave him wide open a lot on the perimeter
@ChibiMalzahar
@ChibiMalzahar 23 дня назад
@@Oppenheimer1967 he shoots a great percentage I mean. He isn't really creating off the dribble, but the fact that he can hit the shots when they leave him open is the cherry on the top of his offensive package. But if you make him lean on it more like the wolves did then it's less reliable a weapon
@ChibiMalzahar
@ChibiMalzahar 23 дня назад
@@michaelahurt I agree it was very close. Though, I also think it's because the defense is so intense. When your team's defense is strong it tires out the offense and leads to easier offense of your own. I feel like even when Denver was rolling offensively it was easier for the Wolves to come back, but when the Wolves were rolling defensively the leads exploded to 30+ points
@Oppenheimer1967
@Oppenheimer1967 19 дней назад
@@ChibiMalzahar Agreed
@Dorray
@Dorray 23 дня назад
Over the final three games, MPJ was held to 6 points a game on 19% shooting. Awful.
@je5406
@je5406 23 дня назад
He shot terrible in 3 playoff series last year as well. Some guys are regular season players. Sad
@michaelahurt
@michaelahurt 23 дня назад
"held" is a generous term. He just missed shots. Although keeping McDaniels on him a lot _was_ smart.
@LLPOF
@LLPOF 24 дня назад
Good god, was there a memo that went out mandating the words "master class" be used in every video, podcast, and tv broadcast. Sheesh.
@dhj9013
@dhj9013 23 дня назад
Kat finally showed heart in that game. Legacy game fr
@Uebelkraehe
@Uebelkraehe 21 день назад
Everyone better listen when Mister "I wouldn't pick Luka for these POs at all" shares his infinite wisodm.
@arp_909
@arp_909 22 дня назад
Looking forward to the analysis of the Mavs series. Sounds weird to say, but I massively underestimated Kyrie’s impact, he was getting to the basket at will in the first game. Edwards was absolutely gassed in Q4 when Luka then did the damage. Mavs back court is going to be a tough problem to solve! Can’t wait to see the adjustments in game 2!
@shins0ub0y
@shins0ub0y 24 дня назад
I've been waiting for this video. I'm sad that my nuggs lost, but I wanted the breakdown to see why
@fredharvey2720
@fredharvey2720 24 дня назад
The breakdown is simple: The Wolves this year began to use illegal contact as a routine aspect of their defense. All the handsy garbage you see against the ball handler on the perimeter is illegal. Every one of those touches by the defense on the ball handler is a personal foul. That kind of contact is only allowed in the lower defensive box and more often than not, especially with referees like Marc Davis, it's not being called. This Wolves team is dirty and they cheat on a regular. Hope this helps.
@owmegwoagm
@owmegwoagm 24 дня назад
@@fredharvey2720ain’t reading allat, but enjoy that second round exit 😂😂😂
@dacap10
@dacap10 24 дня назад
Props to you man. I don’t have the guts to watch breakdowns of my team losing in such a heartbreaking fashion.
@fredharvey2720
@fredharvey2720 23 дня назад
@@dacap10 My team also. They play dirty like this with everybody when they can get away with it.
@malycw7903
@malycw7903 23 дня назад
Always enjoy your video. This game is such a big turnaround, especially for a game 7. It would be nice if the analysis is on both teams, instead of just the cume back by the Wolves, because nuggets jumping out to a twenty point lead into the third quarter is very impressive on its own. What did Nuggets do right early on? Did Wolves play the same way during the deficits, but Nuggets' shots just falling? Did Wolves make big adjustments to make the come back possible? Too bad this video only tells half the story.
@benjihuynh2970
@benjihuynh2970 24 дня назад
Amazing series
@jcmaybenot
@jcmaybenot 23 дня назад
Joker had to take more midrange shots imo. Man was deadly from there last year and it feels like he abandoned it
@petasmith6258
@petasmith6258 23 дня назад
Jokic averaged 24.7/5.7/10.1 in the series. 34/7/19 in game 7. Jokic is not to blame for this series loss.
@alexmartins1650
@alexmartins1650 23 дня назад
fantastic video as always but that wolves offensive graph at the end needs tweaking, that middle green bar should not be that low relative to the others
@Jsch23
@Jsch23 23 дня назад
solved? i would say they wore him down and they picked the lesser of two evils giving up so many wide open 3s, jokic was completely burnt out and i think fatigue played a big role in all those misses, plus he probably felt the weight of the world on his shoulders with none of the role guys making their wide open jumpers either. mpj was terrible in this series, murray probably played 5 good quarters the entire series, plus murray seems to be made of glass these days, gordon was so incredibly inconsistent all playoffs(i felt like jeff green playing mentor to him last year was a big deal), kcp was invisible, his impact couldnt be felt on the defensive end either with the size differential, the bench was mostly invisible throughout the series, the wolves are just a terrible matchup for denver and even with denvers flaws i feel like they couldve beaten everyone else in the playoffs besides minnesota. give the wolves so much credit though that generational defense made those role players and murray suck.
@nickwilson7241
@nickwilson7241 24 дня назад
I think it's very weird that so many people are looking at the denver game 7 and saying, "ahh well Dallas is going to give the wolves different looks they haven't seen yet" and then lists a bunch of stuff the wolves saw in round 1 and earlier in the denver series. Like, yeah, Dallas is going to be a fundamentally different kind of challenge than GAME 7 against Denver after each team made a bunch of adjustments and counter adjustments, but it's not like Minnesota has no idea how to deal with two good shooters. That's literally what the suns series was
@vinkozoric1283
@vinkozoric1283 24 дня назад
Suns were lacking pure PG who will bring the ball and let scorers score. I still have TWolves in finals, but wouldn't be surprised if Dallas wins this.
@nickwilson7241
@nickwilson7241 24 дня назад
@@vinkozoric1283 yeah, I'm not saying it's a 1-to-1 comparison, but when I hear people say stuff like "Minnesota hasn't faced two good perimeter shooters like Luka a Kyrie" I'm just like, "what? Did you only watch like half the Denver series?"
@rickharrison1737
@rickharrison1737 24 дня назад
Biggest questions for the Mavs offense vs. Wolves will be how do the Dallas shooters perform when left open, how healthy is Luka, and can they keep Gobert out of the paint.
@nickwilson7241
@nickwilson7241 24 дня назад
@@rickharrison1737 I think the biggest difference between OKC and Min is going to be the rebounding. OKC just doesn't have the kind of size that can compete with Dallas bully ball, but now Min will be the bigger team, so that rebounding battle will be really important for both teams
@michaelahurt
@michaelahurt 23 дня назад
The difference is twofold: 1) Kyrie is a significantly better passer/playmaker than anyone on Phoenix let alone Luka who is best PnR passer in the world 2) Luka and Kyrie are both KD level shot makers and KD wasn't the one who struggled. Those guys are like Kobe or Dirk or Steph where you can contest, but it's not going to change the outcome. Contests don't bother them. Also Luka's size and strength will negate how much McDaniels can bother him. And he can shoot over Ant or NAW. Luka is a completely different animal than Booker or Murray. What Minnesota will do though is help and recover so Dallas' role players won't have a bunch of open threes. Dallas will need to earn everything and -- I think -- they'll make Luka score 40-50 and take away the lobs and corner threes. How well DJJ, Green, Hardaway, Exum make threes against Conley closeouts is going to be very important.
@glovs4188
@glovs4188 23 дня назад
The shooting that made jokic unstopable last year was missing this year. Wolves game him wide open 3s.
@gregarsen7000
@gregarsen7000 23 дня назад
I think its pretty simple to see, Jokic imploded when he is trying to do everything for his team. His zone defense was weak because he was too worried about the other bigs. Hes cooked at the perimeter if conley or Ant have the ball. He was gassed so his shots got sloppy. The entire denver team relies jokic to be playmaker, shooter, and rim protector. T-wolves had better transitions and a lot of relief from the bench. No matter how much you hate the nugs, jokic and jamal nearly beat the best defense in the league single-handedly. Jokic was far from perfect that game but he was still able to keep it within striking distance of winning. T-wolves deserve this win in the end. A lot of changes need to be made to this nugget team before their next playoff run.
@cameronchappell8265
@cameronchappell8265 24 дня назад
No mention of the RG fadeaway? Not even in passing? Seems like the most weird shot of the series. Probably would have fit in the Denver half court defense section.
@showdaKOs
@showdaKOs 23 дня назад
Was a good defense. I would even say that it THE shot that Denver want the Twolves to take. When a shot like that from Gobert goes in it's just luck. Nothing to analyze
@user-hz3yo8dp8y
@user-hz3yo8dp8y 23 дня назад
Man, Rudy got a lotta flack after g5…hope people start to understand it’s not all about guarding guys 1v1
@Matt-Edwards-MEdia
@Matt-Edwards-MEdia 23 дня назад
I didnt realize how poorly Jokic ended up shooting from 3 by the end of this season, good point!
@ryanmanoo2988
@ryanmanoo2988 24 дня назад
the impact of gobert is the most overlooked
@neilrotoni9170
@neilrotoni9170 23 дня назад
Man this is HIGH HIGH LEVEL coaching from both teams. Unfortunately someone had to get bounced
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc 23 дня назад
0:18 I FUCKING LOVE THIS, especially since it has so much peak defense, but it's also balanced with great offense as treat.
@Internet_Gangsta
@Internet_Gangsta 23 дня назад
T-Wolves had Gordon and MPJ on their side as well in that game 7.
@Yallowbanana
@Yallowbanana 24 дня назад
Mavs and pacers have won 2 hard fought series but lets only cover the wolves for 3 videos straight
@BonesDMS4life
@BonesDMS4life 24 дня назад
Cuz they beat the champs
@Broba_Fett
@Broba_Fett 24 дня назад
What were the percentages of players guarded by Anthony Edwards? Just from watching a few games it couldn't have been high. He is a good defender.
@epicgamersvv1582
@epicgamersvv1582 24 дня назад
38% the lowest mark of the playoff so far.
@xWrongButtonx
@xWrongButtonx 23 дня назад
Denver needed a player that can get to the rim, simple as that. No team can defend 3pt line and protect the rim, at the same time. The inability of Nuggets guards and SFs to do anything about it, was the thing that gave Minnesota's coaching staff "the how to". Once you limit their attempts at going to the rim, they only had 3pt line left, to go to and when you are forced to take a lot of contested 3pt shots, numbers go down.
@Roonjuice0706
@Roonjuice0706 24 дня назад
Ben have you ever thought of moving into a coaching position within the league. I feel like a team such as Denver could use a basketball savant such as yourself.
@JokicisbetterthanEmbiid
@JokicisbetterthanEmbiid 24 дня назад
I agree he would certainly make better and quicker adjustments than that idiot Malone
@phothewin6019
@phothewin6019 24 дня назад
The last thing the league needs is more North Korean propaganda.
@GeronimoPlaz
@GeronimoPlaz 24 дня назад
DO YOU LIVE IN NORTH KOREA???
@user-gk3uo5ev7n
@user-gk3uo5ev7n 23 дня назад
finally, a video about wolves
@akshajande6304
@akshajande6304 24 дня назад
will you make a video on the Mavs Thunder series?
@fredharvey2720
@fredharvey2720 24 дня назад
Oh this is easy. Expect the Mavs to be blown out tonight. You see, the crew chief is going to be Marc Davis, a dirty ref who has been accused for years of points shaving. He likes "prison ball" and swallows his whistle for the Wolves and won't call them on illegal contact which is a big part of their perimeter defense. In fact, go ahead and place a bet on it right now, Wolves by at least 10.
@jesse11111
@jesse11111 23 дня назад
Bro hit us with the hard 🦆
@blaxson10
@blaxson10 24 дня назад
We gonna see Denvers bad defensive breakdowns or slow motion plays and graphs??
@carson.4612
@carson.4612 24 дня назад
We don’t ever hear these channels talk about it ever because we live in North Korea
@matt-tb6gt
@matt-tb6gt 23 дня назад
“Thinking Idiotically About Basketball” doesn’t like to talk about that with his big baritone voice
@shadmalik5125
@shadmalik5125 24 дня назад
Naz and kat being noticeably better post defenders than jokic was something that I wasn’t expecting lol
@Account-jn7xu
@Account-jn7xu 23 дня назад
Bro finally had the courage to respond 💀
@joevince6066
@joevince6066 23 дня назад
I do recall joker missing 7 wide open 3s. Had he hit his average of 38% the wolves go home. Dame with mpj. That's why the warriors were so insane consistent jump shooting does not happen
@michaelahurt
@michaelahurt 23 дня назад
I'm still surprised Denver didn't run more Iverson staggers for Murray into empty side handoffs.
@FinesseFather
@FinesseFather 24 дня назад
Damn we really are living in NORTH KOREA
@SamD-fc8vq
@SamD-fc8vq 23 дня назад
We all wondered if t-wolves had enough defense to beat the nuggets and I thinl that is their most important asset
@marlowencna
@marlowencna 23 дня назад
Reminds me of SAS Duncan/Robinson Or Det Rasheed/Ben counter to Shaq
@tomeewwolffart8058
@tomeewwolffart8058 23 дня назад
Really good video, but does not explain that how come after the 20-point lead and with Jokic struggling from downtown, they did not adjust to running the offense through Gordon or MPJ. And the very fact not even mentioned either that Denver's starters and bench players stayed in one-digit point score, but Jokic and Murray. That leads to a question of how comes that Denver's offense can only be run through the Murray-Jokic pick-and-roll despite having other quality players too.
@forestcitytrivia9167
@forestcitytrivia9167 24 дня назад
Maybe now that TB has shown how good Rudy was defensively, his haters can shut up for 5 minutes. That would be nice. Just five minutes, please.
@JayThunder35Fan
@JayThunder35Fan 21 день назад
Honestly, I think 3 point shooting is what Jok will work on (if he’s not horse riding lol) for the off season. Jok is a great roll man but if pick and pop becomes a staple in his game, that’ll create a defensive problem for a lot of teams. Maybe it’s just me but if my big can pop threes and against the Minnesota defense, 5 out would be hard for them to defend. Either you’re giving up an open lay or an open 3.
@nicoabad9326
@nicoabad9326 23 дня назад
My love for Thinking Basketball outweigh my love for Jokic that's why I'm watching this.
@georgealexander1059
@georgealexander1059 22 дня назад
In game 5 the nuggets dared the dpoy to guard Jokic. In game 7, the twolves dared the mvp to make wide open shots. Really interesting chess match considering the awards on both sides
@Kulasisi-xj9fk
@Kulasisi-xj9fk 17 дней назад
I think the series between Dallas and Minnesota tells us what a true All-Star is. You don't care about elite defense, you're gonna get yours if you want it. Jamal and MPJ, good as they are, aren't Luka or Kyrie. Joker needs a true All-Star with him if they want to defeat the Wolves (they will be better next year too). If Jamal's injury is the real reason he's not playing his usual Playoff self then they're gonna be fine next year. But if Minnesota's defense is his ceiling then sad to say he needed to be traded. It's win-now for Denver, Jokic is gonna be 29.
@cerebralfanatic
@cerebralfanatic 23 дня назад
When that Minneapolis crowd is chanting D-FENSE it hits a little different
@garretnarjes782
@garretnarjes782 23 дня назад
This summer, we need a break down of some of the best defenses in league history. How did they work? What's changed over time?
@ry_an.
@ry_an. 23 дня назад
That’d be fire. He would have to explain rule changes and what teams were trying to deny.
@kidkop7127
@kidkop7127 23 дня назад
Yes KAT deserves credit. But just as much credit to Finch/Nori
@michaelahurt
@michaelahurt 23 дня назад
I wouldn't say that. Everything they did only works because of how well KAT played. It was good game planning but plans aren't worth anything if you can't physically execute.
@shanemathre
@shanemathre 23 дня назад
If by small adjustments you mean refs thencyes i agree. Denver made some small adjustments
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