How They Fool Ya (live) | Math parody of Hallelujah 

Oh, opportunity lost. He should have started the next verse with how they were now fooled by pattern into thinking there was another.

@@TormodSteinsholt But then there would be another and they wouldn't have been fooled.

@@dumaass Unless he stopped without finishing the verse?

​@@dumaassbut as being fooled by patterns is a pattern within the song, not being fooled by a pattern would fool those expecting to be fooled by a pattern

@@Robbedem sure

We need more semipatterns-

WHAT

I remember that prime pattern in base 4 from a Numberphile video Edit: actually, Grant has posted the link down on the comment section and it actually featured himself

You are very right.

Boring

😂 Too good

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SAME THOUGHTS

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i mean that is literally how chord is used in the first verse of both hallelujah and this song

ditto 😂

It's true that Leonard Cohen wrote a whole bunch of different verses before settling on the ones he did. Other artists doing covers will often root around in those to put together their take. It's that seed of truth that lets you follow the lie longer than you otherwise would. Which probably wasn't intentional but fits the theme.

lmao

Honestly, true! I somewhat thought it could be legit until Grant mentioned base 4. I already heard from a relative that ordinary people don't care at all about other bases way too many times to not connect the dots by that point! Footnote: For those asking how the integral didn't give it away, I'm autistic and watched way too many educational parodies including Calculus Rhapsody! 😂

@@MathNerd1729 I am too, so I can't really speak for all the allistics watching - but in hindsight I think everyone else probably figured it out at _"one of the earlier versions was about this particular pattern in math"_ 😉

Yes

Parker Patterns?

​@@thebiblioholicDefinitely Parker Patterns.

@@thebiblioholic We're officially calling it that now.

Nah, that is just another pattern that fooled ya 😂

“Loss” lmao

​@@farrankhawaja9856you didn't

so this song's ontology is basically like a tensor - it maps like a tensor LOL!

*THE LYRICS* _(since I'm a little late to comment, here I am leveraging your comment xd):_ "Well I heard there was a sequence of chords splits the circle to 1, 2 and 4 n points seem to cut in the powers of 2, yeah It goes on like this, with the 4th and the 5th but something's odd, when you add a 6th it cuts in 31 patterns fool ya how they fool ya, how they fool ya how they fool ya, how they fooo-ooo-ool ya When your faith is strong you still need proof what seems natural to guess can lead to goof each integral up on the left is pi over 2, yeah you might think that's true for the next, which is fair but like a joke we've shown that it's off by a hair it's a subtle slip, but it's true the pattern fooled ya how they fool ya, how they fool ya how they fool ya, how they fooo-ooo-oool ya Now take a prime, and write it in base 4 read those digits like you'd have before each prime gives a new prime with this rule, yeah or does it though? you'll eventually find new primes are not so simply designed patterns hold then they're broken how they fool ya how they fool ya, how they fool ya how they fool ya, how they fooo-ooo-oool ya"

Haven't laughed so hard in weeks. Thanks for a great cover!

Fantastic, a million out of ten. Leonard Cohen would be confused and then proud

It’s hilarious

Brave to post something so relatively unpolished, and I couldn’t be happier! Thanks for sharing it

Why here and not the Grant Sanderson channel?

It's been a favourite of mine, it's great to now be able to share it publicly.

don't be fooled by 3b1b's authoratitive voice

@@zmaj12321 it's now canon

How he fooled ya

When I met Leonard Cohen at Vidcon 2019 he confirmed to me that his inspiration for the song was the pattern of n^17+9 and (n+1)^17+9 being relatively prime breaking at n=8424432925592889329288197322308900672459420460792433

In all seriousness, the man wrote dozens and dozens of verses and kept only the best few. There are many many scrapped verses to hallelujah, if I heard correctly.

wdym

@@lu0z9_the_I I think this comment might be alluding to an implication that faith isn't enough (at least for some people). Or maybe they think it isn't enough period.

@@cosmiclightning4723 I think it's just that he got nearly the exact original lyric to work very well, with a totally different meaning, in this new version, it was just really good word play. Original lyric: _Your faith was strong, but you needed proof_

and play

He can do anything

3 blessed 1 beat

Grant is gifted enough to be good ... actually, excellent at everything. We need more people like Grant. In so many different areas!

​@@irok13 skills 1 grant

For real. That's a "pro" musician move right there.

It's kind of like being out on the water and "riding the waves"...

@@skilz8098way to contribute

@@chocomilkfps1264 Way to contribute.

@@lookupverazhou8599, way to contribute.

But Rufus Wainwright sang the Shrek one ? (I'm not 100% sure I know what "cover" means)

@@MrBoubource The soundtrack album has Wainwright's because of licensing issues, but the movie itself uses Cale.

@@theadamabrams law lol, thanks !

The verses chosen by Cale is more or less "the standard version" of the song, sung like that by countless other artists, including Rufus Wainwright, Jeff Buckley, among others. Cohen himself was known to perform different verses, though, sometimes even varying the selection between performances, and recordings of a couple different variants exist.

@@MrBoubource A "cover" is another artist recording a song made famous by (or written by) another performer. A cover is complete and unaltered version, contrast with "parody" where the lyrics are changed (like Al Yankovic) and the work possibly shortened, lengthened, or with rearranged accompaniment.

So true. Matt is such an Excel virtuoso that it’s easy to overlook his skills on other instruments.

it's funny because "key" and "note" both have important meanings in music so "keynote" sounds like it could also be a musical term.

@@Rubrickety the pun was *right there* howd ya miss it? howd they fool ya????

Unironically, the timing on the slide changes was on point.

@@only20frickinletters Seriously, either Matt was that good and/or it was fixed in post. Maybe both.

Do you know the song Hallelujah? (That made me laugh.)

@@wayneurquhart7192 indeed, i do not know this song - there are so many songs with the word Hallelujah in it... I also do not understand why people are thinking this is funny 😀 They are laughing, but what's the joke ?! (Don't explain it to me)

Making a song like this (the fourth, the fifth...) without being cringy is an impressive achievement. It turned out really great!

100% the same. I didn’t watch it when i first saw it in my feed (which is a first ever for a Grant video). My loss, this was amazing

It helps that his voice is fantastic

So you're telling us... He fooled ya.

But that would be another verse, no?

wow! did you see this live?

I wish! I think I saw this on one of their patreon channels.

@@edanmaor I think Matt Parker published it awhile back.

Not you expositing a literary gem for me to steal

And if not pi then at least pi + wtf 😋

π/2 times funnier. Except when it isn't.

That's irrational!

Even though you can, you won’t. The proof will of course, be left as an exercise to the reader

Let me know when we hit blue eyes southern revival gospel..... Ya know.... the song about how many holes a straw has..... "hardly hole-y"?

Hope for the human kind, you mean.

Yes!🎉

Agreed. I'm not even sure if I'm laughing more because it's actually funny or because the audience thinks it's funny and I just get swept along with the mood.

Why did your teacher give you full marks?

@@DavidSartor0 he likely didn't know and barely looked at it. He would also deny obvious mistakes he made, when pointed out. My other math teachers at that school were superb. It's really funny how I counted it a few times, then decided to go with the wrong answer, and still remember as a grandpa. :-) I've always been more interested in the things I didn't understand than the things I did.

@@tolkienfan1972 Thank you.

@@DavidSartor0 welcome

And in fact with n=40 the result is 40(40+1)+41, which is plainly divisible by 41 !

@@columbus8myhw what's the next one that isn't difivislb eby 41

@@andrewzhang8512 n = 41 is divisible by 43

@@andrewzhang8512 n = 44, it gives you 43*47

for any sequence n^2 + n + (z+1), there will always be a square (not prime obvs) number at z, because: z^2 + z + (z+1) = z(z+1) + (z+1) = (z+1)(z+1) = (z+1)^2

You can like it 3 times! In fact you can like it any prime number of times and it would still count the like. But just the one like.....there has got to be some poetry to that somewhere......

@@zombieregime You can like it 11 times, or 7 times, or 5 times, or 3 times... but don't let the pattern fool ya.

@zombieregime any prime except 2. The pattern fooled ya (I assume you meant odd, but I couldn't resist) :D

@@egwenealvereiscool7726 I tried to be clever on RU-vid, instead I came out looking like a boob, Im wondering if I should turn in my HSE.....the pattern fooled me. The pattern fooled me...... I did mean prime, but only checked if primes were odd, not if there were any un-odd primes....And missed, or only read as far as I needed for a confirmation instead of checking for exceptions, that 2 is also a prime...should have added 'any prime>2'..... but the pattern fool me.....(note: only the first paragraph should be read with a beat half way through a verse....I mean, you can try to do it on the second but like with my maths skills, I make no promises 😜 )

As an autistic aroace who was watching maths educators for ages [very likely for more than 8 years] and saw tons of educational parodies & original compositions [in fact, I was rewatching some for nostalgia before this one came up in my recommendations], I find this comment hilarious! 😂 I remember watching quite a bit of Vihart & ASAPScience along with some other nerds like Hank Green, Dr. Peyam, blackpenredpen, Mathologer, DorFuchs, et cetera. And given the fact that the first RU-vid video I liked when I finally made a RU-vid account in early 2016 was [forgive me for this one being nowhere near math related] . . . . . . the Google Translate Sings parody of Love Is An Open Door by Malinda Kathleen Reese . . . . . . the RU-vid algorithm probably knew way before I did that I'm not an average neurotypical cishet person who just goes along with whatever is trending! 😂 [Clarifying note: I don't have any suspicions on any of these educational creators' orientations or mental health]

@@MathNerd1729 stop thats literally me too though. On the spectrum, asexual, obsessed with mathematics and science for years and years, the algorithm knows us best doesn't it...

@@spate7207 Agreed! :)

@@MathNerd1729 If you're also interested in not really math but still science parodies, may I recommend acapellascience... >:) It's all made by 1 or 2 guys (Tim doing the songs themselves and his friend Tom behind the camera)!

I didn't even realize that! That's the cherry on top! 😂

Nice observation. Almost wish they parodied a completely different song for the last verse.

same here. made my world better. much thanks

That's genius!

He’s been on numberphile before and he did the Stanford commencement speech this year on his second channel, Grant Sanderson.

@@Holobrine Oh wow! Thanks for the info

In 2020 he did several hours of close up live face content on this very channel - top notch instruction I would add. And he has done interviews in the past as well.

Oh yes, you are right. Here's to Tau, the number twice as cool as PI :D

We need a studio version of this! And then the orchestral performance! And then the metal cover!

@@wolframstahl1263 Conviently, I have a degree in music composition and specialised in orchestral writing 😁

@@FB-no4lr Hm, what a weird coincidence... Almost as if the world wanted to tell you something... hemmmm.....😁

@@wolframstahl1263 That almost sounds like a pattern

​@@LabGeckohow they fool ya 😂

It made me laugh as well, but I don't hysterically laugh out loud.