HOW This Aircraft FELL 30 000 Feet in Less Than 2.5min! | China Airlines 006

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On the 19th of February 1985 a Boeing 747SP, China Airlines flight 006, was operated a scheduled passenger service between Taipei in Taiwan to Los Angeles in the United States.
After about 10 hours in flight, the number 4 engine started having issues and eventually failed. The way the pilots handled the engine failure led to a loss of control inflight event with disastrous consequences.
In this video I will tell you all about it. Stay tuned.
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Messy cabin 1: @ Oscar Munoz via Twitter
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Crash 3: UNKNOWN
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Crash 4:
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Chapters:
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00:00 - Intro
00:35 - Flight History
01:01 - Crew Information
01:39 - Equipment
01:39 - Turbulence
02:56 - Issues with Engine 4
02:56 - Thrust Asymmetry
08:12 - Can We Descend?
08:51 - Radio Silence
09:57 - Fighting the Yaw
09:57 - The Roll
09:57 - Through the Clouds
09:57 - Engine Issues Remain
17:41 - Emergency Declared
19:39 - Final Approach
20:18 - Aftermath
23:04 - Findings

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@MentourPilot 2 года назад

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@Russeljfinch 2 года назад

Just my observation of all these flight dramas is...pilots should first learn to fly gliders (not rely on engines ) that way they will actually FLY .Then introduce engines.They seem to lose all perspective when they have no engine power !

@tarassu 2 года назад

15,494.5 hours of flying time is irrelevant information. Please keep it up to 2-3 "significant figures" for flying times. And pretty much most data (maximum 3 significant figures is acceptable as all extra is memory clutter inside our brains) like weight, fuel on board etc (you can also add "about" to specify rounding). Therefore 15.500 hrs of flying time and 7700 hrs of flying time. DO NOT be more precise. Thank you :)

@tarassu 2 года назад

Or "more than 15 thousand hours" is even better.

@ansgar9289 2 года назад

Hi, could you please make a video about the collision of DHL 611 and Bashkirian-Airlines 2937 in Germany 2002?

@michaelmansun6203 2 года назад

No. Zero interest.

@Cruminum 2 года назад

Reasons why I like this youtuber: Not clickbait Very entertaining Very informative Very well edited

@AviationNut 2 года назад

Not only a RU-vidr, but also a 737 Captain. Calling him only a RU-vidr is a little disrespectful, when his full time job is being a 737 Captain and only during his free time he films and posts video's. But all the rest I agree with you.

@smasheduptoaster9186 2 года назад

@@AviationNut He has a RU-vid channel with 900k subscribers and he dedicates a large amount of time to it. It is not disrespectful to call him a RU-vidr. Just because he is a RU-vidr doesn't mean he isn't a full time captain. He's both and both captain and RU-vidr are respectful titles.

@allenfuda6431 2 года назад

Actually that's captain Peter the great pilot at all times

@SparrowwithaMachinegun 2 года назад

Little bit clickbaiting. but when the content is this good i'm oaky with it.

@rogervonschleusingen4603 2 года назад

AND VERY PROFESSIONAL BROTHER !!

@paperburn 2 года назад

WoW this is the classic swiss cheese model, I work in aircrew training and the hardest thing to teach is trust your instruments, the second hardest to to get the first officer to speak up when things go wrong.

@MentourPilot 2 года назад

Indeed it is.

@dennismiller7456 2 года назад

100% true.

@francislea4700 2 года назад

Wow ! Thanks 4 that. x

@paulogarcia6511 2 года назад

You don't have to lie to kick it. Earl is that you man?

@janetmaffia3064 2 года назад

@@francislea4700 aaAaaap wtf

@Aranimda Год назад

"And perhaps there was one other hero that day. The Boeing 747 itself. It was put through manoeuvres and stresses that far outweighed it's known limits and yet, despite it all, the aircraft survived and landed safely." -ACI, Panic over the Pacific

@spoppy3060 Год назад

Agreed, with no human eror, 747 is a tank in the sky, it's strong, durable and have unique design

@framedthunder6436 Год назад

Literally this plane needed to be shutdown by a rocket to be destroy in pieces

@jorge_781 Год назад

Actually the 747 was the unique hero. The crew made every mistake they could in order to crash the plane.

@Aranimda Год назад

@@jorge_781 In the ACI episode, one commentator said that even tho the pilots caused the incident themselves, they also performed a great recovery and after the plunge they handled the damaged plane carefully and made a safe landing. "The one big thing they did right, and one only ever has to do one big thing, is: They saved the airplane. And in principle, that's all you ever need to do right when something happens to your airplane. You need to save the airplane and you need to save the passengers. And that is what they did."

@jorge_781 Год назад

@@Aranimda If someone put the airplane in that condition you're already not a hero by definition. 1) not trusting in your instruments when you're the middle of a cloud formation - disregarding the best information 2) incorrect procedure to re-fire the #4 engine 3) not use rudder to correct the heading 4) negligence on recovering airplane attitude when they're had all information and resources to do that 5) bad cabin management and wrong procedures after engine fail and the list just goes on. Just imagine a person who throws a baby by the window and runs to save her/him being very kick going down the stairs, and get the child. Hero?

@jasonsong86 Год назад

It's crazy they would start to question the instruments so quickly. They were lucky when they got below the clouds with ample altitude to recover. A lot of times this type of dive coupled with low clouds is certain death.

@marioluigi9599 Год назад

That's Chinese guys for you. Hehe

@typ044 Год назад

They probably thought the instruments were made in china.

@feralcatgirl Год назад

taiwan*

@budthecyborg4575 Год назад

Pulling out of a dive at 9,000 feet means they were seconds away from cratering. Whenever I'm doing stupid stuff in Flight Sim I never attempt dramatic maneuvers below 10,000 feet, it almost always ends hitting the ground.

@georgeholloway3981 6 месяцев назад

Taiwanese made products are much more reliable, actually.

@-eternal 2 года назад

This is one of the most insane stories I've seen you present yet. The fact that they recovered and landed in mostly one piece after falling 30,000 feet is UNBELIEVABLE.

@VDAVK 2 года назад

You're right..I mean..look at the condition of that plane..looks like God was holding onto that plane while it went thru hell....I guess they all survived cause the Sun was still up.

@TheGodParticle Год назад

I guess those 747's are built like tanks.

@malcolmwhite6588 Год назад

Yes-but it does illustrate one phenomenon that conspiracy theorists have… “5G” really is harmful!!😂

@carpetjam1264 Год назад

@@malcolmwhite6588 absolute dad joke lol

@T3hderk87 Год назад

You can thank the US army for how tough the 747 is. The only heavy lift aircraft stronger than a 747 is the C-5 Galaxy, and that's saying something.

@captainyossarian388 2 года назад

"It's okay, we landed in one piece." External inspection engineer: "Well, technically....no, you didn't."

@superomegaprimemk2 2 года назад

Any landing you can walk away from, is a good landing!

@peterebel7899 2 года назад

@@superomegaprimemk2 But they were towed...

@M4RC90 2 года назад

@@superomegaprimemk2 If you can fly the plane again it's a better landing.

@isabellind1292 2 года назад

Lol!😌✈

@USERZ123XD 2 года назад

another happy landing

@chapo619 Год назад

This aircraft is now stored at the Tijuana International airport and has been for years. It sticks out like a sore thumb near the end of the runway. Great video!

@CoSmicGoesRacing 10 месяцев назад

It's a shame that it's just there collecting dust. That thing should be repainted back to its period-correct China Airlines livery and put on display at an aviation museum as a testament to the 747's resilience.

@raptorhacker599 7 месяцев назад

How did it go to Tijuana?

@CoSmicGoesRacing 7 месяцев назад

@@raptorhacker599 probably it was a near enough airport that wasn’t in the US that allowed it to be accommodated.

@sal_strazzullo Месяц назад

@@CoSmicGoesRacingyup Tijuana is pretty close, just south of San Diego in California

@mistertagnan 8 дней назад

Is it still there? In googling it was reported that they were considering scrapping it, but I can’t find any more information

@metarotta Год назад

absolutely insane that after pushing the aircraft far past any safe limits they still wanted to fly to their intended destination instead of landing down safely as fast as they could

@jtlast9600 Год назад

unbelievable

@mdaniels6311 Год назад

Yep, and didn't think to check the passengers. Incompetence.

@KillertoastGaming Год назад

Honestly this was one episode with the dumbest pilots

@missraeray Год назад

Arrogance mainly

@johnsrabe Год назад

It demonstrates a real lack of knowledge of aeronautical engineering. They wouldn’t need to know exactly how many g’s they were pulling to know they stressed the shit out of the airframe.

@Hybris51129 2 года назад

5g's in a 747. All these years and I thought my experiences in Microsoft Flight Simulator as a child using the biggest plane as a stunt plane were baseless. Still terrifying for everyone on board.

@TheSupradude26 2 года назад

Hey I’ve done the exact same thing countless times, only as an adult!! 747 all the time doing the biggest aerobatics as possible!! Haha

@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 2 года назад

For another real-world example of using big planes like stunt planes, look up Tex Johnson; he barrel-rolled a 707 in front of spectators... twice (the second time was to make sure they really believed what they saw). For a flight sim thing, I've seen plenty of people use the ol' 'stall 'n' drop' technique to land 747s on aircraft carriers or remote, tiny runways around the world. It's pretty challenging, so give it a go if you're confident.

@azmax623 2 года назад

I had an old Commodore 64 flight simulator (Acrojet maybe?) where I'd fly up as high as I could at 110% power until the engine died. Then I'd glide down to the runway for the next five minutes.

@JDMHaze 2 года назад

Those G forces haf to feel like someone was a literally pushing you into your seat and forcing you there Whatever you experience on a roller coaster this had to of been 20 times more firm

@lsswappedcessna 2 года назад

Ah, FSX. The good old days for me. I played that game enough I'd wager I could take control of a small aircraft in an emergency. I want to get a proper sim set up and play the new one but that's a lot of money currently best spent on other things. Same with actually becoming a general aviation pilot, I'd love to do it but it's very expensive.

@WayneM1961 2 года назад

Anyone who flies and is frightened of turbulence and wondering "at what stage the wings are going to fall off" needs to watch this, A quite incredible account of just how much punishment an airframe can take, yet still land safely. What the crew did or didn't do in a timely manor to avoid this situation altogether has to be excused by the fact they got the aircraft safely on the ground with everybody living to tell the tale. Another great video Captain Petter, thanks for all your efforts in keeping these truly excellent studies coming.

@MentourPilot 2 года назад

Thank YOU for being here supporting and interacting. 💕

@thom1218 2 года назад

"has to be excused" - The end never justifies the means and does not and should not absolve the flight crew of remediation to train and fix their errors. Had the flight crew understood bleed load hogging and closed the pressure valves to slowly bring engine number 4 back up to speed at a proper altitude, then they would have increased their chances to gracefully recovered from the pending disaster without risking all the passengers' lives. The only commendation here goes to the engineering of the aircraft for holding together through over 5g accelerations. Future passengers now get to unknowingly endure the horrific possibility of repeating these events with the same as-yet-untrained flight crew as they continue to fly with no remediation and therefore no belief they themselves could have done anything differently.

@WayneM1961 2 года назад

@@thom1218 Pilots are humans too and can make mistakes like anyone else

@millomweb 2 года назад

@@thom1218 'not believing their instruments' -SO many times (other crashes) it is really time simulators showed one on-screen 'out of the window' image and give a different picture as displayed on the instruments - and see which the pilots believe - if they follow the 'on-screen' image they crash and if they believe their instruments and fly by them, they don't crash.

@primmakinsofis614 2 года назад

Boeing has a long-standing reputation for building strong, rugged aircraft, going all the way back to the famous B-17 Flying Fortress.

@Eyetrauma Год назад

Imagining the cold chill felt by the flight crew when they finally connected the fact that the false horizon and the real horizon were in sync with each other.

@goaway6786 Год назад

Snigger.

@Cjmm007 Год назад

You’d think they could feel they were upside down. I know pilots are suppose to rely on instruments not feelings but I know damn well you can feel when your body goes upside down.

@solderpro9725 11 месяцев назад

@@Cjmm007 pretty sure you don't know how pulling 3 or 5 gs feels like, i do neither but i assume it would mask the feeling of being upside down

@swapnilmankame 10 месяцев назад

@@Cjmm007 You wont feel you are upside down when you are moving fast and rolling at the same time. there are multi directional inputs going to your brain making you lose complete spatial awareness. hard to re-create on the ground,

@mb2776 3 месяца назад

@@Cjmm007 Even with an old flight sim like falcon 4.0, it's easy to experience yourself how easy it is to get lost. For example, flying at night really feels like you don't move at all. Like sitting in a complete void. Now imagine that with an AR headset.

@KeenlyJohnas 7 месяцев назад

It is amazing how an experienced crew can allow a situation that seems manageable to escalate that quickly out of control 😮

@sarahlouise7163 5 месяцев назад

amazing and very scary indeed

@spacecoastz4026 4 месяца назад

And not understand why a #4 engine-out could present some aerodynamic issues. Why they didn't slightly back off thrust on #1 and #2 and start descending is just basic.

@sentientdogma1206 3 месяца назад

What ethnicity and race were the pilots? Thats why 😅

@ChonnyD 2 месяца назад

Racist trash

@keremmorgul367 2 года назад

That these pilots managed to create such a big mess out of a single engine failure is very disheartening from a passenger's point of view.

@NicolaW72 2 года назад

Indeed.

@MichaelStawowy 2 года назад

15000 hour captain - and probably 13000 of those hours flown on autopilot. even worse today. lots of professional pilots talking about it.

@tomk4199 2 года назад

Agree. I have watched quite a few of these and this seems like some of the worst piloting. They got off lucky

@Xoman08 2 года назад

@@MichaelStawowy Indeed, AF447 is an example of the problem, when things go wrong a % of pilots are not well prepared / not able to diagnose correctly and losing "situation awareness" can lead to a crash.

@nueziger2691 2 года назад

I hope these pilots all retired after this flight. This should have been the recommendation of the final report.

@BucsFan-vc5nl 2 года назад

The scariest thing about this is it happened with so much experience in the cockpit.

@mef12727 2 года назад

90% experience on auto pilot

@rafael502 Год назад

@@mef12727 more like 99.9%

@LeutnantJoker Год назад

Experience as glorified bus drivers. Und unlike bus drivers they don't even have to handle the controls. I'd trust an experienced truck driver more than one of these bozos

@Ice.muffin Год назад

@@LeutnantJoker Experienced bus drivers are also to be trusted 🤨🤨.

@wideseen Год назад

@@rafael502 Experience in not falling off the chairs.

@adriansmith7730 Год назад

I live in Tijuana, Mexico and since little I remember a parked 747 in our locale airport and until now I decided to look into the history of the aircraft. Crazy to think that the 747 involved in this specific incident has been sitting in my city for 15+ years, it feels so weird to know everytime I watch this video I can just drive a few miles and appreciate the actual 747 in all it's glory. Loved the video btw, great job as always c:

@aquilifergroup Год назад

Puedes tomar una foto amigo?

@eetuthereindeer6671 6 месяцев назад

I wish Mexico was a native american country. It should have been. It sucks that europeans ended up becoming a majority there despite the civilizations of americans there. I wonder how much tourism they would be getting if instead of maya ruins there would be maya cities

@planespottingoliver7317 6 месяцев назад

@@eetuthereindeer6671one small question, how does this have anything to do with the video and aviation in particular 😅😅

@eetuthereindeer6671 6 месяцев назад

@@planespottingoliver7317 it does not 🤔 good point

@MoAtreides 3 месяца назад

Awebo yo soy de playas de tijuana, no sabia que era el mismo avión

@johannahunderwood4596 Год назад

Astonishing! Everyone on that flight is lucky to be alive. It shows how a small problem can mushroom into a huge problem when there is a loss of situational awareness.

@lukamilas8648 Год назад

When you have people who don’t know how to properly solve a problem. They were extremely fortunate.

@goaway6786 Год назад

Absolutely.

@A1BASE 2 года назад

Hey Frank, I'm not sure what I'm seeing here. I think we've got a simultaneous failure in 3 redundant flight instruments. Sounds about right to me, Captain! Also, sir, I'd just like to take the opportunity to say how much I admire your new seating position on the ceiling! Very avant guarde!

@MentourPilot 2 года назад

😂😂😂

@andrewf7822 2 года назад

Thats hilarious

@michaelschwartz9485 2 года назад

Ding ding ding! We've got a winner! Great comment!!

@josedomingovegaviera2371 2 года назад

they also make the video 25 minutes longer than it should be by repeating the same crap over and over.

@CaptainPanick 2 года назад

Captain, another amazing thing is how your coffee cup is sitting upside down on the ceiling and not spilling, so not only are all our instruments faulty, but gravity itself seems broken now. Do they have anything about that in the manuals?

@nathanwilliams8222 2 года назад

"We can control the aircraft" just killed me. I wonder if air traffic controler [who probably had not been apprised of prior situation] wanted to ask the obvious question - "was there a point where you couldn't control the aircraft?"

@dmytrogubskyi4355 2 года назад

Still a right thing to inform. The controller is aware something is very wrong if you do not respond to multiple calls, during wich your aircraft is teleporting 20 thousand feet down.

@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 2 года назад

I know, right? It's like a kid saying, 'hey, mom, don't worry about your garden, because it looks okay now'. Like, gee, sounds suuuuuuper trustworthy right??? (ahem SARCASM)

@NicolaW72 2 года назад

@@dmytrogubskyi4355 Indeed.

@thenasadude6878 2 года назад

Kennedy Steve would probably have roasted them with something like "yes, that's what you're paid for"

@comvnche 2 года назад

Air traffic probably did not trust their instruments either! xD

@thee0581 Год назад

When your coffee starts flying upwards out of your cup but you re still convinced the instruments are wrong.

@14112ido Год назад

I had expected this to end with everyone onboard lost, so it was a nice surprise that everyone got out (mostly) okay. Still, considering how bad the damages were to the aircraft especially to the control surfaces, it's a miracle they could land safely.

@Denzarki 2 года назад

Its so good to hear of an emergency that actually ended in everyone surviving. This actually makes me, with an extreme fear of flying, feel better about flying because it shows not all emergencies end in disaster.. well except for the guy with a broken foot

@David-ud9ju 2 года назад

This should never have been an emergency though. It was a simple engine failure that any pilot should know exactly how to deal with but apparently these pilots didn't.

@revenevan11 2 года назад

@@David-ud9ju right, but even in the case of pilots dealing with the situation this poorly, it still managed to be recovered without loss of human life. Just loss of some underwear, I'm sure, and consequences for the pilots, I'm sure. At the very least severe retraining *AND* a look at the airline's training programs and crew culture that could allow for such complacency and confirmation bias. It's a difficult scenario for me to judge, as I'm not a pilot, just an armchair enthusiast who watches too many videos like this lol, and because although the pilots were the main cause of the issue, they also did end up getting it on the ground safely once they removed their heads from their asses! (Should've added a "remove before flight" tag there too!!!)🤣

@Quon6810 2 года назад

I would’ve cussed them tf out when I walked past them getting off the plane.

@Yamyatos Год назад

Honestly, this is one of the stories less well suited to build trust in the aviation system, as the pilot(s) mishandled it quite a bit. Cant say i blame them, but still. He has a few stories like that, which is a bit disheartening. Like the one with the pilot that felt superior due to his experience and started lecturing and looking down on his second pilot, which ended in a huge tragedy. Or the one with the airport that had horrible safety standards and a lot of broken stuff, where you just end up asking yourself how that's even possible. But those are the exceptions, not the norm. There is also a planeload of videos that really make you look up and respect those pilots for their decisionmaking and how they handle stress. Like the Hudson Miracle, or his currently newest video about a beoing nearly crashing into a mountain, which i really enjoyed. Or the one where a passender had to land a plane, where you really felt all the experts coming together to help. Amazing stories.. even more so because they are real.

@STITCHWA Год назад

Um yeh nah not everyone survived the lady that got sucked halfway out died

@theduke7539 2 года назад

I never cease to be amazed at how seasoned professionals can make sustained rookie mistakes. I'm not immune to this, but when I make a mistake, I just lose a few hours of work, nobody is gonna die if I make a mistake, even a relatively bad one.

@swedneck 9 месяцев назад

The thing that always boggles me is people in high-risk environments being willing to tolerate even further risks. To err is human, but taking chances with something as potentially dangerous as flying implies a profound lack of risk-assessment i feel. It's one thing to try to cut in line in a traffic jam, but when you're in an airplane taking risks can lead to you and everyone else PLUMMETING TO YOUR DEATH (as we just saw), which one would think is a pretty good motivation to not take any risks.

@Takyodor2 Год назад

I find it ridiculously impressive that such a large, clumsy-looking plane can take those forces well enough to be able to land!

@hia5235 Год назад

Its the safest most durable plane ever built. Respect it.

@jacquelinekemp4074 6 месяцев назад

beautiful plane

@NickanM 3 месяца назад

_They were executing fighter jet moves with that plane, giving the passengers the ride of a life time..._ 😱 Kudos & respect to the manufacturer; Boeing.

@bret9741 Год назад

I’m an ATP and an FAA gold seal flight instructor certificate. Also hold every fixed wing certificate out there over the past 35 years. I’m medically retired now but need an aviation fix often and these videos really go along way toward keeping me in touch with the knowledge I can no longer use but still enjoy thinking about. I, like so many others, believe pilots should go through aerobatic training and when an airline pilot should have extensive training in simulation recovering from severe unusual attitudes. I had some great sim instructors who loved to place me in unusual attitudes to recover from. One instructor would place us in a night IMC scenario with a mix of malfunctioning instruments or engine loss. Once successful and time permitting, we be given nothing but our emergency instruments. One thing I noticed, while instructing, a lot of pilots panic more when they loose automation than when they loose an engine. Hand flying in a high mental load environment often results in an incomplete sim session or an outright failure. I realize these scenarios are extremely rare in real life but they do occur therefore we need to train for them.

@Heyu7her3 Год назад

Your comment reminds me of a comment I read under another video. The person mentioned the book "Children of the Magenta Line" which the author, who's a retired pilot, wrote about how automation changed piloting skills.

@peregrina7701 2 года назад

Kind of blown away by how they didn't trust _three_ separate horizons all in agreement.... Even if the agreed situation was horrible..... Human beings are curious things. Thank goodness for a safe if really scary outcome. (How did they even have pitch control with the tailplane in that condition???) Great video Sir, keep them coming!

@Kalumbatsch 2 года назад

When your senses tell you that down isn't where down really is and all you see around you is the cockpit, that is a powerful impression and that is what you trust instinctively.

@kristianfagerstrom7011 2 года назад

They probably didn't look at them actively with the intent of comparing instruments to antcipated situation. The pilot probably jus glanced at one of them, stating his initial reaction - Presumably the flight engineer should have checked them acively when the pilot made the satement.

@matthewking5612 2 года назад

Their brains were being subjected to high vertical loads dude.

@ahstrewth 2 года назад

Tunnel vision and panic response developed quickly. Assisting crew - sometimes better positioned to see the big picture - disabled by g forces. But armchair evaluations are easy. Flight in turbulence at altitudes near the flight altitude limits demands constant awareness....crew do not have a pause button. Remarkable that the aircraft held together.

@WorldTravelerCooking 2 года назад

One of the fundamental problems though is that we, as humans, only understand facts when they are situated in narratives. If you don't understand how the instruments are showing something so heavily messed up, it will be very, very hard to understand them. Confirmation and continuation bias both come from this. I totally understand how this works. I am not in aviation but I have worked on large, complex IT systems and I have been bit by similar cognitive biases. What I am wondering is how the captain (pilot flying here I think) failed to notice the roll until the upset was so heavily developed. I would have expected an instrument scan to notice the roll before that point.

@ThomasPH123 2 года назад

I cannot imagine the level of absolute terror that all those passengers had to endure. 5 g’s is enough to make a grown man cry and I’m sure some people lost consciousness for a brief moment only to wake up to more terror.

@louissanderson719 2 года назад

Having pulled 5g’s before, I wouldn’t have been impressed 😂

@sundhaug92 2 года назад

5 g would be blackout-territory for a healthy person

@slipknottin 2 года назад

@@louissanderson719 what were you doing that you pulled 5Gs?

@louissanderson719 2 года назад

@@slipknottin aerobatics

@gorillaau 2 года назад

Oof! That sounds horrific!

@ColonelKlink100 Год назад

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the passengers swore off of airplane flights after this incident. It must have been terrifying. 😧🥺

@Argumemnon Год назад

Gee I hope people who get into car accidents don't swear off automobiles, that way.

@SgtHappyHands Год назад

@@Argumemnon Some do. Often, it can even extend past the type of vehicle an accident occurred in. Or even develop into general anxiety disorders, where their whole sense of risk assessment changes. It can take years of effort and therapy to readjust after such an experience. If they ever manage to readjust at all.

@Valsorayu Год назад

@@Argumemnon Trauma exists. If you feel like shit when getting in a car then you won't get in a car.

@Kgosha Год назад

@@SgtHappyHands Yeah, it took me almost a year to not be terrified every time I went through an intersection after I got t-boned.

@BundasaurusPecs 5 месяцев назад

@@ArgumemnonI mean, yeah, people do. Stuff’s scary

@cryptosurjgill5856 Год назад

Crazy to think that they could only straighten out when they came out the clouds ☁️ and saw the horizon,what if it was misty or nighttime,surely your gyroscope can’t be faulty

@seventh-hydra Год назад

If you mean the artificial horizon, attitude indicators can definitely fail, and the most likely reason is from a loss of power scenario. Which they thought they were experiencing. They can also fail as a result of rapid changes in speed or direction, which they definitely did experience.

@B_-.- Год назад

They can fail, but there's several and they'd fail independently. The chances of all 3 failing at the same time is extremely low. What's more, is there are vertical speed indicators and altimeters that would've shown that the plane was actually diving also. In essence, there should always be enough info to know if you're flying level in terms of altitude. Bank not so much, but it's still extremely unlikely you'd lose all instruments indicating bank angle.

@AndyJarman Год назад

Why a gimballed ship's compass isn't fitted to all airline dashboards I'll never understand! Seems too much emphasis on automation and too little on remaining "situationally aware" (knowing up from down for instance!).

@seventh-hydra Год назад

@@B_-.- Keep in mind reliability, and awareness of systems from pilots, was a lot lower in 1985. I can understand where these pilots were coming from. And they took the right procedures to attempt to correct the false "issue." Aside from attempting to re-light the engine too soon. I feel like people are coming down way too hard on these pilots. Especially compared to the reaction I saw for Air France 447, a modern crew on a modern plane, yet somehow everyone acts with sympathy towards the "confusion" of the pilot who was doing nose hard-up in a stalling aircraft. 🤦 After being told to go nose down by his co-pilot _and_ captain.

@B_-.- Год назад

@@seventh-hydra I didn't say a word about the pilots. I just explained that a failure of every instrument indicating that the plane is climbing/descending is extremely unlikely, even in 1985. "Pilot error" is an overused phrase that pushes blame onto pilots when in actuality, the people who are responsible for them - airlines - should be held responsible. There are some causes where a pilot does something totally stupid, but 90% of the time, you can root the issue back to lackluster training, lackluster experience, or a trail of small issues that no one put together previously.

@mdbryan9525 2 года назад

Retired B747 classic captain here. Your analysis was pretty awesome. I was impressed by your knowledge of the 747 systems and the use of cockpit video simulations. Kudos.

@1ibnebatuta Год назад

Sir please guide me to be become a pilot with very limited resources 😔

@mdbryan9525 Год назад

@@1ibnebatuta where are you located. ?

@mdbryan9525 Год назад

@@1ibnebatuta Because of the worldwide pilot shortage, now is an excellent time to become a pilot. Many of the airlines have started their own pilot training program. I’d check those out. The other option is to buy a small Cessna 150 or something similar and hire an instructor to teach you and build your hours that way. Even if you have to borrow the money, you can frequently sell the airplane after your done for more than you paid for it. If you buy wisely that is. If you decide to go this route, hire a A&P mechanic to do a pre buy inspection. It’ll pay dividends if you do.

@1ibnebatuta Год назад

@@mdbryan9525 a huge thanks sir for even considering my comment. Another barrier in my mind is my age. I'm already 38 years old. Can I still persue my dreams.

@mdbryan9525 Год назад

@@1ibnebatuta No problem. Your age is a plus, not a negative. The airline is going to see you as being more mature. Able to act with less drama in case of an emergency. Anybody can fly a plane when everything is going right. It takes a professional to handle an airplane when everything is going wrong.

@markbryan9989 2 года назад

"Trust you instruments" This was pounded into my head during flight training. They can fail but if the redundant systems agree, they are probably correct. Amazing amount of damage to that aircraft! They were fortunate it wasn't worse.

@tankthearc9875 2 года назад

pitot tube incidents .

@thaneoffife6904 2 года назад

I think It had something to do with their visibility. Because they had no visual reference they didn't think the aircraft was actually doing what the artificial horizon said it was doing. It seemed the captain wasn't aware of the gradual banking either so from his perspective the artificial horizon just went crazy.

@Kalumbatsch 2 года назад

@@thaneoffife6904 That and our inner ear can only sense acceleration, not which way is actually up. It's possible to think you're flying level but you're actually upside down, pulling back on the stick, and gradually going vertical crashing into the ground.

@cr10001 2 года назад

They were very lucky to survive. One that wasn't - check out Atlas Air 3591. Perfectly functional 767 that the co-pilot kamikaze'd into the ground under the impression they were stalling.

@coryCuc 2 года назад

@@Kalumbatsch Yep. That's what happened in the Kobe crash.

@R1CK3RS Год назад

The Air crash investigation episode on this is my favourite of all time. The visualisation of this was incredible, and the way the captain snapped his plane back level after glimpsing the horizon was absolutely nothing short of spectacular. The fact the crew caused the disaster is irrelevant compared to the way the captain leveled and landed what was left of his plane.

@MegaTechpc Год назад

Agreed. They lost situational awareness and that is not good, but at the end of the day they managed to save the plane and safely deliver their passengers to the airport. People make mistakes and the hope is that they were able to learn from this incident and become better pilots as a result.

@goaway6786 Год назад

He bent it. With 10000 feet of air left. He's lucky he didn't break it.

@user-lv7ph7hs7l 11 месяцев назад

Yo what season? I can't find it.

@R1CK3RS 11 месяцев назад

I don't know what the episode was called but can tell you this from watching the episode: China airlines 006, flown by captain Ho.

@R1CK3RS 11 месяцев назад

I don't know that we will ever see flying like this again with no fatalities in our lifetimes.

@thor3279 Год назад

you have an incredible ability to explain complex information simply and clearly without ego. your productions are engaging without dramatics or blame. I'm glad for the work you do.

@CertifiedDynamite 2 года назад

The 747SP is one tough bird. N4522V was repaired and continued to fly until 2006 which is pretty incredible.

@lucianistoc1264 6 месяцев назад

I could swear that the airframe would be deemed un airworthy after pulling those Gs

@valuedhumanoid6574 2 года назад

I was on a ATA (American Trans Air no longer in business) L1011 coming home to Indy from Vegas back in the 90's that made a 1000 foot drop in a split second. We actually went over a patch of turbulence so strong and the captain later told us over the intercom that there was a downdraft that robbed all of the lift from the wings. When we finally stopped dropping and the lift caught back up, the amount of G force we felt was incredible. Just before it happened the attendants were going up the aisle with the little drink cart and they suspended drink service. If they had not, that cart would have been airborne for sure. I know if I didn't have my seatbelt on I would have smashed the overhead. We were flying over the Rocky Mountains in the late summer/early fall. To fall 30,000 feet in 2.5 minutes would have been so much worse. We diverted to Omaha immediately and spent 6 hours there while they checked over the plane. 7 hours later we were airborne again. Scariest flying incident of my life to date.

@MentourPilot 2 года назад

Scary stuff!

@Daniele858585 2 года назад

yeah the airdrop are the funniest part of flying, low and high g are fantastic! i wish i could try 9g in a jet, is my life dream :X

@halweilbrenner9926 2 года назад

One of the best large commercial planes was overbuilt & therefore not a financial success.

@isabellind1292 2 года назад

Terrifying! You are very smart and that's precisely why there's NO excuse not to keep your seat belt fastened at all times when you're seated. The attendants don't have the luxury in a split second drop.

@anna_in_aotearoa3166 2 года назад

The fact that the passenger & cabin crew were so little injured is just absolutely frickin' incredible to me, given they were experiencing forces stronger than those you'd get if strapped to the nose of a Saturn moon rocket!! 😳 Must have been psychologically terrifying though...

@thatsaniceboulder1483 Год назад

I’m sitting here gobsmacked that they came out of that so unscathed. I can’t help thinking of JAL 123. For some reason that battle the captain so valiantly fought has stuck in my head. Pulling those g’s… staying with it and fighting, just amazing.

@HidInMistProductions 11 месяцев назад

JAL 123 haunts me as well. I'm so glad that this flight had a happier ending.

@IrisRiedel6 Год назад

The fact that this aircraft was still intact (minus the stabilizers) and the passengers lived to go to the hospital or board another plane is astounding to me. I'm both freaking out and laughing hard at this whole situation. Amazing flying by the crew and amazing craftmanship of the plane. Also can't imagine the G forces.

@mcb187 2 года назад

Man, that pullout must have been insane! To put that in perspective, most roller coasters are designed to have no more than about 4 seconds of 4g. The closest comparison I can find would be a now defunct Japanese coaster, that had a maximum g force of about 6.5, and sustained around 5g for about 2 seconds. People have said that they felt like they couldn’t breathe. I have actually been on a coaster that pulled 4g for around 5 seconds, and it was intense as hell!

@haydenspencer6745 2 года назад

I can’t believe the final report had no recommendations! That’s like saying “yeah we know this incident happened but we don’t know how make improvements to make sure it doesn’t happen again”. Kinda scary really. Aren’t these incidents supposed to improve safety…

@MentourPilot 2 года назад

Yes, and sometimes the report in itself is the safety improvement. We can always recommend better training but these pilots had gone through the required training of inflight engine failure so it seems to have been a genuine mistake.

@aldenunion 2 года назад

"Convenient Amnesia"

@OwlRTA 2 года назад

The NTSB really missed an opportunity to recommend measures to mitigate fatigue and monotony in the cockpit, because it was brought up in the report. Even jet lag was mentioned, as the captain went through so many time zones in the past week. Jeddah to Taipei, then a couple of round trips from Taipei to Japan, and then Taipei to LA all in the last week. The NTSB could've recommended limits on how much load a pilot takes on on a weekly basis, or how to make the autopilot more pilot-friendly, and not merely mask problems, or how to make sleeping in planes more achievable for the pilots.

@jasonh9211 Год назад

Taipei is not in China, it is independent!! Your videos are really good mate! Better than Air Crash Investigations!

@adrnin-naxx Год назад

It's just difficult to tell from a foreigner's perspective when the official country name is Republic of "China" and the national airline is called "China" Airlines.

@darcgibson5099 Год назад

As independent as Puerto Rico.

@darcgibson5099 Год назад

Also Taipei claims to be the sole China and the “rightful government” of the entirety of the PRC. So don’t get it mixed up, they’re a failed genocidal participant in a civil war that lost miserably and fled to the island of Taiwan and have run it as a military dictatorship under martial law for most of that period, whilst claiming to be the sole legitimate government of the entirety of the Chinese mainland. What you’re supporting as independent is as independent as Scotland is of the UK, NI from Ireland, Puerto Rico from the US, the Luhansk and Donetsk Republics in Ukraine, and are far, far, far away from being a “democracy”.

@nioi Год назад

@@darcgibson5099 didn't ask

@donny5302 Год назад

@@darcgibson5099 didn't ask

@WT..... 2 года назад

I love how the pilot was like "we're in a sudden pitch maneuver. Our 3 redundant instruments are unreliable because it all says we're pitching down, which can't be true, despite having inputed commands to descend to a lower altitude before. Most importantly why does the speed keep increasing when I'm doing nothing?"

@lknanml 2 года назад

It usually takes a series of small events to cause a really big one. The fact they had all that minor to medium damage that DIDN'T lead to a major event is pretty amazing.

@sailaab 2 года назад

True that

@GrEEnEyE089 2 года назад

to be fair, pulling 5g on a 747 is pretty major if you ask me

@LukeyP2819 Год назад

Only one note, Taipei is not in China, it’s in Taiwan. (as much as the CCP would like you to believe otherwise :) Other than that, I love this channel. I’ve been super interested in China Airlines 006 since first happening across some other yt vids and articles on the subject matter. How that plane maintained its overall structural integrity and functionality is a miracle. Yours is far and away the best and most detailed account I’ve seen yet. Thank you, sir.

@kipwheeler7188 Год назад

Wow! I'm an Army rotary wing NDI inspector and I love these videos. Stress and fatigue on those wings and for them to stay working is amazing.

@Odin029 2 года назад

I don't know about anybody else, but this episode actually makes me feel safer flying.

@geoh7777 2 года назад

You might be thinking that resting in death will make you safe from the threat of dying.

@aldenunion 2 года назад

@@geoh7777 I like that one...

@JamesAlburyTheSkyAboveUs 2 года назад

It's a miracle this plane landed safely. My gosh. I would've been scared to death had I been on that flight. Boeing makes really good planes. I wonder if the 747-400 could handle that level of G's. The saving grace may have been that the 747-SP has a shorter body and the aerodynamic and physical stresses were closer to the plane's center of mass. Thanks for posting this video!

@iLLBiLLsRoastBeats 2 года назад

Boeing sources out to Chinese slave labor factories

@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath 2 года назад

I think what you meant to say was the stresses were less because the forces were closer to the body of the airplane which meant the moment arm was shorter and thus stresses were less

@iLLBiLLsRoastBeats 2 года назад

@@ALFRED744 them and also google and every other tech lord. Selling all our data and tech to the CCP

@Paolo8772 2 года назад

I think you're correct about that. I'm watching the Mayday version and it incorrectly CGId the plane to look like a 747-400.

@tokenlau7519 2 года назад

"Boeing makes really good planes." Not anymore... ;(

@wolfchapz7669 Год назад

I appreciate how you make this very detailed but easy to understand for us casuals. This is complicated stuff and lots to know and you are great at breaking things down

@pooryorick831 Год назад

I have known about this incident for a while but this is the first real thorough explanation I have heard. Thank You.

@angustin6590 2 года назад

"...from Taipei in China... " John Xina approves of this

@NightBlado 2 года назад

Even through propaganda the Taiwanese flag is seen on the plane, instead of the communist flag

@LawpickingLocksmith 2 года назад

So sad, where will it all end up?

@nottenarwle9906 2 года назад

This was my thoughts as well. Immediately ripped me out of the video.

@lyhjiba 2 года назад

Republic of China on Taiwan

@SWiTFSHoW 2 года назад

@@nottenarwle9906 yeeea wtf :(

@naturallyherb 2 года назад

I think I've watched this incident on the Air Crash Investigation documentary, and I think it's interesting to see a different perspective on the discussion this. Specifically the events from the engine failure to pretty much loss of control, and then recovery after.

@hanjitheeka1200 2 года назад

Mentor pilot does amazing job at explaining these videos

@toomanyhobbies2011 2 года назад

Yes, MT is an expert pilot and understands the issues. Hollywood makes guesses and sensationalizes everything.

@unvergebeneid 2 года назад

@@toomanyhobbies2011 those documentaries are very well done though.

@fluuufffffy1514 2 года назад

Yeah, me too. And on Allec Joshua Ibay's channel. Always on the edge of my seat--this is an amazing story any way around!

@naturallyherb 2 года назад

@@toomanyhobbies2011 Air Crash Investigation was run on the Discovery Channel in Canada so while it isn't exactly Hollywood, I think that their episodes are a bit sensationalized and incorrect at times. Like showing an 8-abreast economy cabin while showing an accident involving a 747 at one time, for instance.

@joshuadobson5245 Год назад

The details, and effort you go into are unparalleled. Thank you

@boop53 Год назад

your videos are amazing - right to the point, no clickbait, well informed, explains the reasons behind accidents. thank you!

@jozefvervloet766 2 года назад

A bit unbelievable that after what happens during this flight, the captain decides not to fly to the closest airport. Knowing that this aircraft was exposed to extremely forces and you never know what damages could has been done at the aircraft. One of the recommendation should also be: required to land at the nearest airport. regardless of what happened or the captain his feelings.

@snowpawzvideos Год назад

honestly I don’t think they were aware of the G forces, let alone the sheer extent of them, considering they couldn’t believe their instruments

@FriedrichHerschel Год назад

@@snowpawzvideos They lost 30,000 feet altitude in less then 150 seconds. That sink rate is waaaaaaaay beyond anything normal. Even in an emergency dive after loss of cabin pressure the sink rate is around 6000-7000 feet/minute ... they got to 12,000 ft/min. In one moment they knew they were at 41,000 ft, and then suddenly below the cloud level! And that is even AFTER the captain pulled the yolk so hard that they almost stalled! G forces aside - if they think they cant trust their instruments, they should land!

@sdtok527 Год назад

@@snowpawzvideos Well if everyone suddenly starts falling around you, one might wonder if there are some G forces involved.

@reeritz1280 Год назад

Not a pilot, but I totally agree, especially as there is no way to view the outside of the plane to know if any damage or what kind. Common sense = land ASAP.

@remmyotieno8199 Год назад

Watched this before on mayday episodes, but to watch it here and to learn after everything the captain still opted to fly around for fun with a wounded bird is nothing short of absurd

@georgecasillas9182 2 года назад

My wife was on that flight ... it was a close call . She was not injured, but greatful to be alive. She was interviewed by a TV station crew. And took a Bus ride to LA . Thank God for the blessings and saving all those lives. .

@Mario87456 7 месяцев назад

You are lying don’t make up lies like that for attention.

@reyjusuf Год назад

I remember the Mayday/Air Crash Investigation episode of this flight. One passenger interviewed said "we landed safely, thats all that mattered. They got us into it, but they got us out of it."

@pointbreak4490 3 месяца назад

I would fly with this dude as my pilot anywhere. All the knowledge and awareness he gets from making all these videos must be insanely helpful. Great job all around. Happy flying.

@andy_in_colorado7060 2 года назад

Stuff like this is why the saying USED to be, "if it ain't Boeing, I ain't going." Absolutely amazing engineering (and probably no small amount of luck) that allowed a jumbo jet to survive conditions that would have doomed most any other aircraft available, anywhere.

@dreamthedream8929 29 дней назад

Now the saying is the opposite

@thebolt00 2 года назад

Just a small thing for you to correct.. the description says Air China flight 006. Air China is the flag carrier of PRC (mainland) but this flight is China Airlines, flag carrier of ROC (Taiwan).

@SosgamingYT1 7 месяцев назад

Im confused but china ailrine is a taiwan airline.

@rodanilupena6994 10 месяцев назад

Dear Sir, You explained very well the accidents as well as flight crew background, as well as accurate transcript document that’s why I follow and always listen to your annotations.Thank you, Sir.

@kennethmcdonald2952 Год назад

I have to say your videos are absolutely amazing. being a child growing up in a family of pilots, I definitely understand everything that you're explaining. You explain it so well, and the way you explain it is very professional. I would feel extremely comfortable with you being PIC on a trip if i were to take one. Thank you for the amazing content And keep Them coming.

@Scott1433 2 года назад

fantastic level of detail here. An episode of "Mayday" covered this incident, but you went into much finer details and explained things that were not covered. Great stuff

@MikeRees 2 года назад

How the hell did that plane not splinter into a million pieces? Truly a marvel of engineering. 274 people counting their blessings and changing their underwear!

@KevinDC5 2 года назад

Aluminum doesn’t “Splinter” very easily, and aerodynamic forces alone cannot act as a “Shredder”. A lot like a “Ninja Turtle in a Half shell”, geometry can seem like sorcery! 😬

@stardustring Год назад

Absolutely and praying

@bakedtiger413 8 месяцев назад

It must be terrifying to hear a plane go into engine failure, go silent for a few mins, then come back and say they dropped 20,000 feet.

@NickanM 3 месяца назад

"Weeeeeeeeee!" Would be my comment. _(After I stopped puke my intestines out.)_

@bromidedrag Год назад

You truly have one of the best channels on RU-vid. Fantastic, professional content!

@michaelschwartz9485 2 года назад

They were so close to completely tearing apart! Seeing the horizontal stabilizer ripped apart, I would have passed out! Their Guardian Angeles and Boeing engineers were definitely with them! Phew!

@samibeemer7619 2 года назад

I'm actually really impressed by the B747 after all what happened to her, she was still be able to fly & land safely. We lost u Queen 😔

@teodoradamis6542 2 года назад

God and angels saved the passengers !

@Gunsandjewels 2 года назад

Yes in this case the aircraft was a hero, not the crew. It managed, away from all these tortures it received from humans...

@YTshashmeera 2 года назад

All hail the queen of the skies!

@geezushasrisen 2 года назад

@@teodoradamis6542 No, it was the incredible skills of the pilots.

@ryanvernali8829 2 года назад

We didn't lose her, she was repaired and put back in to service after all that!

@johnt6022 Год назад

I luv the way you explain things in your videos. It certainly makes it easy for us to follow. Thanks hun. x

@benderandownz Год назад

I cannot wait to get to the majors Mentour! You and Captain Joe were somes big reasons I made the decision to stop waiting around and pursue it! Hopefully within the next one to two years I'll be sitting right seat in the airlines!

@treschlet 2 года назад

man, based on how thorough all these investigations are, I can't believe there were no recommendations. Like... it seems totally obvious that an engine out checklist and training on a multi-engine aircraft should have "apply rudder to counter assymetric thrust" as the very first order of operations (aviate, navigate communicate and all). You lose an engine, assymetric thrust is 100% guaranteed, so that just seems like it should be in muscle memory. lost engine? lemme give a little rudder. crisis averted

@Delibro 2 года назад

Yea. Why are so many so basic things not done here?

@lanorothwolf2184 2 года назад

Recomendations: none. actually means "Never go full retard !!!" in this case. They just threw their hands up in the air.

@libertyprime1997 2 года назад

How the hell did they not recommend some kind of increased "trust your fucking instruments" training either?? These were *experienced* pilots, and by the way they were flying, if it was dark or foggy below 11k they would've just assumed the altimeter was wrong and flown it straight into the ocean.

@thomasfsan 2 года назад

Because all these things already are in the training. There’s no multi-engine pilot license that doesn’t include what to do during asymmetric thrust..

@aeternusdoleo4531 2 года назад

A warning signal for the autopilot when it keeps a long, persistent bank angle might also be in order. Without rudder authority, the AP is only capable of going straight. It shouldn't be banking the aircraft for very long.

@OwlRTA 2 года назад

This incident fascinates me so much, because it's the union of two things that rarely happens. Firstly, the pilots make big mistakes in dealing with their situation. Secondly, those mistakes resulted in the plane falling from the sky. Those two things would usually result in an in-flight breakup, or just a crash that would kill everyone on board, and the pilots would be seen as incompetent. However, that didn't happen. What happened instead was that the plane somehow stayed together, the plane was very high at the start, so they had more time to fall and figure out what to do, and they saved the airplane and managed to land it safely despite problems with the elevators (well, the problem with having almost no elevators left on the plane lol). It's the union of the pilots screwing up so bad AND the pilots getting themselves out of a situation that you would forgive a pilot if they couldn't recover from it. Usually it's one, the other, or neither, but almost never both. It's the union of the best and worst of what a pilot can do. Something not mentioned in the report nor the video was that the captain crossed so many timezones in the past few days, which may have affected his judgement via jet lag. He also didn't get good sleep during his rest period (rested for 5 hours and slept for 2 hours) to the point where he was in the cockpit at times during the rest period, which may have also caused problems with performance.

@jtjames79 2 года назад

Design flaw also. That first procedure with the bleeder switch should have required a checklist. These things only require checklist because Boeing doesn't know how computers work. So that's a design flaw, sort of an ongoing one. SpaceX can land a rocket booster on a boat with nothing but GPS coordinates and a few consumer computers.

2 года назад

@@jtjames79 this was in 1985, computers were not what they are today back then.

@jtjames79 2 года назад

@ The 5160 came out in 1983, and Boeing is still not up to that level. The only reason there isn't autonomous fixed wing auto pilot is because nobody has paid for it. For multirotor I can solve the problem with the computer the size of a quarter. Not because it's easier but because the early adopter tax was paid a long time ago. Yes it requires a certain level of hacking skills, but that's almost entirely because there are no standards forthcoming from the FAA to automate against. Something that should have started in the early '80s. So like 40 years of "not invented here". Literally no one from Boeing ever thought to ask John Carmack to help.

@jamescaley9942 2 года назад

Engine failures may be rare but recovery from that should be well drilled SOP.

@NicolaW72 2 года назад

Indeed, absolutely correct. It´s the union of the worst and best what a pilot can do - and in this combination probably an outstanding unique event.

@aidanlacey8926 Год назад

I love your videos! So full of information and so easy to follow the story’s. Thank you for your content

@ryan1e 5 месяцев назад

all said and done... i know it is rare, but it is amazing to me that a plane in crisis hasn't collided with another aircraft.

@comandanteej 2 года назад

I was actually hoping for this episode to come. -A horrifying event with a happy end. Thanks a lot Mentour!

@homefront3162 2 года назад

All men love a "Happy Ending"

@comandanteej 2 года назад

@@homefront3162 :)

@michaelmcneil4168 2 года назад

@@homefront3162 An happy ending would require the captain and second pilot be relieved of any further command and the promotion of staff confined to people capable of understanding how aircraft work.

@ehuntley83 2 года назад

Just one minor correction: Taipei is in Taiwan. Excellent stuff, as usual though! Love these 🥰

@user-mh8hn5uq7p 2 года назад

In 1985 our government still claim we were "real china" and wanted to reclaim mainland china. But as we know it’s hard enough just to defend taiwan.

@EdPMur 2 года назад

@@australianoutback You don’t, but others do.

@shannonluciano 2 года назад

Taiwans official name is Republic of China so stupid how many people don't know this its like how there's 2 Koreas. Taiwan is the old Chinese government

@louisbaker4362 2 года назад

@@shannonluciano Taiwan is the true Chinese government. We should always promote democracy over communism.

@M167A1 2 года назад

@@user-mh8hn5uq7p The ROC is the legitimate government of all China. I know the practicalities but one should never accept the false premise that the CCP is legitimate in any way.

@ArthurX-eg8bc 5 месяцев назад

Stories like this do not make me afraid to fly. Stories like this make me believe in the process.

@allergyahead8128 Год назад

I'm a row 17 seat C type person who most likely will never be a left or right seat flyer.Thank you for your educational feature / benefit way of explaining these cockpit air emergencies. That's why this only plastic wings pilot enjoys your channel so much.

@retiksingh9123 2 года назад

Hey Mentour amazing video it will be. However, one correction that I would point out is Taiwan is officially the Republic Of China and not the People's Republic of China. Thought I should make that clear.

@Fei8lo 2 года назад

Totally correct. Taipei Taiwan is not in China. It's the Republic of China (Taiwan) and not the PRC. The video has the Taiwan flag rendered on the tail of the plane the whole time.

@MentourPilot 2 года назад

Thank you! I noticed that error to taker to correct it

@bf2forever 2 года назад

TAIWAN NUMBAH 1

@hengyuwei8867 2 года назад

Don't want to start a argument here. But Taiwan is not OFFICIALLY recognized as Republic of China.

@greentjmtl 2 года назад

@@bf2forever Would you pro-whatever dweebs stop ruining perfectly good videos with your political crap.

@kalle5548 2 года назад

Random person: Have you even pulled Gs?? Passenger: Yeah once pulled 5Gs Random person: what fighter did you get to fly in?? Passenger: Oh I didn’t do it in a fighter, it was in a commercial jet

@francislea4700 2 года назад

Managed to get 35 Gs back from Columbia once

@mjojrjr6231 2 года назад

@@francislea4700 Hahaha 😂

@kodiak9869 2 года назад

i mean thats a story you will never forget. sure, a fighter everyone can book a flight with Gs in, thanks to MyDays or what not, but a commercial flight? that ought to be the hardest rollercoaster ever.

@tankermottind 2 года назад

Boeing 747 dive bomber

@philippal8666 2 года назад

I wonder if this was after a meal

@MrDophilus Год назад

Great channel for a person that is hugely scared of flying. Many good inputs. Great work!

@KONAMAN100 6 месяцев назад

What an expert story teller Mentour is. Stress is part of the ride!

@theHDRflightdeck 2 года назад

Pilots: “That was nothing let’s continue” Aircraft: “Nope”

@jamesrau100 2 года назад

If only the 747 could talk: "Pilots, I have a number for you to call!" 🙂

@MrChaza001 2 года назад

@@jamesrau100 Haha!😂. Aircraft: “I have an incoming call for you….”

@GunnarLof 2 года назад

And this is why you always should have your seatbelt on when seated!

@MentourPilot 2 года назад

Correct

@tuunaes 2 года назад

Same when sitting into car. In January one coworker had left home to buy groceries and ended up waking in hospital with wrist and couple ribs broken and no idea of what happened in between... Pretty sure without seatbelt he would have been as totalled as the car whose wheel Mr. Newton had taken on icy road for meeting with tree. In another case like dozen or so years ago some driver did enough speeding that when car hit traffic island etc structure, engine and gearbox literally tore through car's front.... While only significant injury was broken wrist/arm.

@eramires 2 года назад

I never take my seatbelt off, ever, any flight I have been to, only to go to the bathroom, that's all.

@godlesspagan459 Год назад

I grew up in Lincoln, UK, so was fortunate enough to regularly see the red arrows practice in the skies above my house. I even learned to swim in the Scampton airbase pools. The red arrows occasionally crashed into houses so they now practice over water and no children get the spectacle I enjoyed. They gave me a lifetime appreciation for their skills and partly inspired my single flight experience in adult life. Love ur channel❤ thanks for your fascinating work

@malinjohansson1986 Год назад

Har alltid undrat hur denna incident kunde uppkomma, tack för utförlig förklaring🤗

@johnfranklin5277 2 года назад

747, I always felt perfectly safe in it on trips to Europe from LAX. FANTASTIC AIRLINER. And obviously very forgiving of bad pilots. And what a beautiful looking aircraft.

@hposnansky4222 2 года назад

At Hamilton Standard we designed and built the engine fuel control, as well as the stator vane control scheduler for that P&W engine. One of the tasks of the fuel control is to limit both the acceleration of the engine to prevent the turbine temperature to exceed a certain limit and the deceleration is also limited to prevent flame out.These functions override the power lever function as does the altitude compensation. In those days the TIT (turbine inlet temperature) could not reliably be measured. This temperature was computed by measuring the much lower compressor exit temperature and then a temperature increment was computed by the fuel controller based on the compressor pressure , to determine density, rpm to to determine airflow , and the fuel flow limit was computed based on the allowable increment to reach the TIT allowable. At high altitudes the density is low, nearly a fourth at 42000 feet, making the temperature very sensitive to fuel flow. Bleeding compressor air on that engine will reduce the compressor exit pressure significantly and limit the fuel flow more than on the other engines, resulting on exactly what was observed: a noticeably slower engine acceleration, to protect the turbine from overheating In other words: the engine (and fuel controller) were working as designed at that altitude.

@NicolaW72 2 года назад

Thank you very much for this information! Obviously and unfortunately the pilots of this flight weren´t aware of this.

@Buledde 2 года назад

Makes sense, very early jet engines had to be operated very carefully at the thrust lever. Either they would catch fire or flame out.

@yazz3r 2 года назад

Great info. So many aviation related pros in these comments. Thanks.

@halweilbrenner9926 2 года назад

Man that was technical stuff.

@Jdalio5 2 года назад

I would love to understand this comment...but that's OK I build fishing yachts and stay on the earth.

@didyouknowthat.channel Год назад

Amazing video! I have subscribed to this channel. Thank you for sharing

@kathleenjory2731 Год назад

Love you Mentour Pilot. Thanks very much for you thorogh analysis - always. Kindest regards to you and your family.

@SinghAlokkrishna 2 года назад

Once again, bang on. How these 25 min passed, watching it.. Quick and interesting. Knew some new terms with this video. Keep rocking captain.

@reconforsales7708 2 года назад

Watch it 1x5 speed

@TotalRookie_LV Год назад

What do you mean by "25 minutes"?! Oh sh...!

@SinghAlokkrishna Год назад

@@TotalRookie_LV video time is 24.59 min, right? So I said 25 minutes. Means interesting and analystical videos wouldn't let you feel that how quick time will pass on. What's your query then.

@josephdeering4506 2 года назад

I was working at SFO when this happened. I was working for WestAir commuter airline, ( Now I believe it's part of United Express ) and saw this aircraft. One of our DH-6 pilots landed after this aircraft and even though he was a few miles behind the damaged 747 his windshield was getting hydraulic fluid on it and needed to be cleaned off. We were told by United mechanics, Boeing removed the wings and replaced the spars and attached new wings. United has a huge maintenance base at SFO and the plane flew out after the repairs. it was on the TV news that night also.

@davidjma7226 2 года назад

Hopefully the two pilots were sacked.

@raymillar1499 12 дней назад

I love your videos Petter. What still amazes me is that experienced pilots ASSUME things so many times. And we all know what assume means.

@rodrigopinchiari4027 Год назад

Greetings from Brazil! I love all of your videos. Keep it up Captain! 😀

@28_sk8_masturb8 Год назад

What separates you from other flight channels is that you explain a bit by bit what is happening, and it really helps those who have no idea about planes and aviation. Keep being awesome ❤️

@vaniahernandez9038 2 года назад

My dad is a pilot and he gets mad when he sees failures like this in the cockpit, because a lot would’ve changed if the pilot had declared emergency and used the rudder.

@dreamthedream8929 29 дней назад

Do you manage to have a more or less normal life without anxiety way too high knowing that your dad spends so much time flying?

@vaniahernandez9038 22 дня назад

@@dreamthedream8929 I would say I am very used to it, and I'm not really anxious about it. He's been flying since before I was born, so to be honest it's normal to me, I just trust him. The one thing that does make me anxious is bad weather, but even then it's not bad.

@IdeaBoxful 2 года назад

Thank the engineers and the workmen who build these aircraft. They are some of the best examples of great engineering and craftsmanship. Lots of hardwork go into building these beautiful machines

@denischarette7972 2 года назад

Had the fourth engine been repaired adequately?.

@anthonywilliams9852 2 года назад

@@denischarette7972 obviously not.

@pellkovy27 Месяц назад

You are really good at explaining this using proper terminology, but helping people understand why things are important. Always interesting and engaging! Having to be responsible for flying a plane is one of my biggest fears because, well...

@ranapratapsingh3416 Год назад

Your videos make it so easy to be a safe pilot.

@craigcrawford6749 2 года назад

When I moved to Taiwan in 2000 we regarded China Airlines s one of the most dangerous in the world. It's way better now but there were so many accidents with them it was ridiculous. They started hiring foreign pilots in the mid 2000's and finally turned it around

@TheRedRaven_ 2 года назад

The maintenance in China was another problem, it was shoddy at best.

@tjnucnuc 2 года назад

Leave it to China not to implement proper safety protocols. Everything they make that requires some level of mechanical safety can kill you in China.,

@littleblackpistol 2 года назад

In the 90s we referred to China Airlines as 'Always Crashes'. I worked in Japan and the Japanese would generally refuse to fly them at all. They were notorious for poor maintenance, especially domestically. Like Aeroflot on steroids.

@torgejh9189 2 года назад

@@littleblackpistol I had an uncle who used to work for aeroflot, the old and the new one that is and I can say those are the truest words ever. Had me giggling into my potato soup.

@littleblackpistol 2 года назад

@@torgejh9189 I know a musician who used to regularly fly to and within Russia for gigs. He and the band started to demand non-Aeroflot flights after one too many hair-raising domestic flights, the worst of which included the outer door being taped shut in front of seated passengers' eyes. He also knew someone who worked at Shannon airport in Ireland and talked about an African airline whose plane was grounded there after they realised the cargo hold was held together inside using old car licence plates ...

@gerrynightingale9045 2 года назад

*This demonstrates why the '747' was 'Queen of the Skies' for forty years* *For the airframe to withstand such tremendous G-forces is incredible* *That the wings withstood that that much flexion and torque is also incredible* ( *There must've been 20-degrees of arc involved!* )