@@maheshkknot sure what you mean. Most outlets don't have their own breaker. Usually it's a room or two of lights/outlets that are on a circuit that share a breaker. Adding an outlet like she did is totally fine, unless you plan on running something that will overload the circuit.
As always, love the video. I put a heat pad in the expensive doghouse I built for my two golden retrievers. One morning, heard the radio say it was 5 degrees. Looked out and my retrievers were blissfully asleep on the concrete patio, ignoring the dog house with warm pad. :-)
I've done a few of those myself over the years, and not only did I do them pretty much the same way you did, I've also done a couple that were connected to an existing GFCI on the inside. I've also done a couple where I was able to add a new circuit to power them and for those I decided the best thing was install the GFCI in the power panel. Along those lines you can also add something called 'arc fault protection' which in some cases will often trip even faster than traditional GFCI's. Something else I learned along the way was to use some painter's tape on the outside wall so you'll have a place to make any marks you need without actually writing on the wall.
Thanks. April, I got it done. Took quite a bit longer than 1 hour. Your video didn’t include working around Tyvek and insulation, and the possibility of a stud getting in the way. Our cat helped too!
Quick tip, use a multi tool to make the cutout. Less chance of damaging any wires. I know the siding will wear out blades quicker but the multi tool is great for that rope of work.
I had remembered seeing this video shortly after you posted it. & now I’m viewing it because I’m going to install my own. Don’t worry my dad was an electrician for 44 years
Hi April, I have a few things. 1. Is the Gfci needs to weather resistant. 2. Today you need to ARC Fault the whole circuit now that you added off an existing circuit. 3. You must have at least 6-8” of wire from the back of the box for splices. All of these are in the NEC code book
1) Tamper resistant as well 2) Not required. There is an exemption for when a branch circuit is not extended more than 6ft. 3) 6" of free conductor with at least 3" being able to extend outside the opening.
Yeah I was thinking of that as well, probably not a good thing to promote something as a how to that goes against code since most people following won't know.
hopefully her inspector isn't a subscriber so wouldn't know it's not original :) and um, this isn't the first time she's added on her electrical. "Oh yeah that was there before 2002" and stick with it.
I’m no electrician but what I read is that arc fault circuit breakers are required in most spaces in a dwelling so it is likely a fairly recently built home already has arc fault protection.
Excellent content topic April. Just two comments. Current electrical code in my area requires that the GFCI outlet on an open porch also be weather resistant. These will be marked WR or TWR. Also, I would break off the 4 "ears" on the outlet yolk before installing it in the box so that it will recess nicely. You can see in your video that they bend outward slightly. This would just give you a nicer, more professional installation.
After having several outdoor gfci outlets catch fire after years of water intrusion my advice would be to move the gfci outlet inside and then use the screws to make the outside outlet also protected. Or use a gfci circuit breaker for the circuit in your circuit breaker box. But they cost more money than a typical gfci outlet.
This particular cover can also use the mounting screws for the outlet. Before tightening the outlet screws, slip the cover on using the slotted holes. Also, I would have caulked around the box for an extra air seal.
Hi April, if you put the GFCI outlet on the inside wall, it will protect the wires feeding the outside outlet (non-GFCI), as well as the outside outlet circuit. This way, if the wires get wet or go bad to the outside outlet, everything is still protected.
Frigginpos, That is true but she will find out that the inside box is to small for all the wires and the GFCI outlet. My question is how did she end up with a 20 amp outlet......it's not a dedicated 20amp circuit. If I was to see that outlet it indicates that it is a 20amp. circuit dedicated. The circuit she connected the outlet to is a kitchen/ dinning room 20 amp. circuit. Yellow NM cable=20 amp. Also April next time you install an duplex outlet in and old work box (the one you used outside) break the 4 little ears off the corners and the outlet will not hold the cover off the wall, the box screw location is recessed for this. Great job young lady.
Excellent video, April. Your cat reminds me of mine - always wanting to help with any project! Hope you have a wonderful 2022 filled with many blessings and abundance! Thanks for all you do!
In our area the electrical code requires that outside GFCI outlets be on their own breaker. This may be different from state-to-state or province-to-province. Always check your local codes.
I know that your porch is sheltered but I noticed that you have your dog heat pads plugged into a non weatherproof extension cable, which is then plugged into your new weatherproof box...... which kind of defeats the purpose of the weatherproof box in the first place. I have seen weatherproof extension cable boxes that you could put the extension cable into which would give more protection to you and your dogs. Otherwise it's a really nicely done job. Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas and New Year 👍👍👍
Avoid using an impact to tighten the screws on the receptacle. Or at least go behind with a regular screwdriver. I've found that no matter how many ugga duggas i give, the screw is almost always able to be hand tightened a little bit more. Loose connections can cause issues down the road. Otherwise good job. Only other note would be if you put both probes into the tamper resistant receptacle at the same time it'll actually insert into it. But either way works.
In areas where a lot of snow piles up I try to install exterior Receptacles at least 24" off the surface below. Also go slightly higher than the interior outlet when cutting it in, so as you feed the wire in from there it will be easier to grab it, and not have to twist it.
I wish you a happy new year 2022, may all your wishes and dreams come true, may God protect you and your family, with best regards Ernst from Augsburg / Germany
WAy to GO with using connectors per code instead of trying wiring all those loose ends into the outlet. Just a note for others that might mount the box horizontally they need to have the hinged side on the top.
Very clear instructions! Not sure I totally agree with proceeding to plug in a non-weatherized extension cord and stuff it behind the doghouse, conductor slots facing up, but at least you've got that gfci.
Thank you for sharing this insightful video April. Wishing you and your family a blessed new year. It’s wonderful seeing your cat trying to help you with the wiring. It’s nice getting your furry kids involved in the family business. Greetings from NE Ohio near the southern shore of the Great Swamp Erie. Cheers
@@bacillus9 is that not what she did? I mean you said they are for attaching the cover using the receptacle screws. She attached the cover just added screws lol I use the keyholes for installing bubble covers. Way quicker and nothing wrong with it.
@@justinwalker4506 Ok. My mistake. She drilled the holes in the siding because the screws used to attach the in-use cover are so long that they would run into the siding. Alternatives to drilling into the siding would be to cut a slightly larger hole for the cut in box so the screws won't hit the siding, or cut the screws down to a shorter size. And as mentioned in other comments, definitely clip the receptacle ears off before installing it in the box so the GFI will sit flush against the box.
@@bacillus9 I wasny trying to be rude or call you out. It's just I always use the keyhole holes for attaching outside covers like these. Didn't know if that was not plausible or what
Thanks for the video April, very helpful. I bought a house built in the 80’s with just one outlet for the raised deck. Just one outlet for the 10’x30’ deck. And of course it’s near the door. I just finished enlarging the deck to 24’x30’ and with my OCD I thought, “You know what the deck needs now? Multiple outlets, in more accessible locations!” (Phone charging, speakers, a place when my dad shows up with his electric ice cream churn, etc.) I’m going to follow your video, add at least 3 GCFI covered outlets, run the romex under the deck with schedule 80 pvc, and 90 degree up through the deck to the 6”x6” posts. Long story short, I want to go from the existing outlet, following what you did and continue from outlet to outlet 3 times. (Unless you tell me different. LOL!)
You can cut the measuring by using an aircraft (long) drill bit and drilling thru the back of the indoor device box to the outside, bingo - outside box location done.
FYI code requires the wires in a box to be at least 3" past the face of the box. It appears that April cut the wires too short. Also, it is not required to use a 20 amp receptacle on 20 amp circuit.
yeah, she did so well right up until she cut those wires. I get the plan, but it wasn't code, maybe in her area, I'm not familiar with that, but in general no.
Just so you know for the future, April, the blue plastic electrical box with the nails on it are new construction boxes. The ones with the doors or wings are remodel boxes. Those wings slide behind the sheetrock and the screw tightens them against the back of the sheetrock. Thx for the video. I'm sure it will help many out there.
April, I had a question about your inside wiring. I wasn't clear on which wires went to load and which went to line after you had installed the outside outlet. It looked like you spliced all three blacks then ran another black wire to load. How does that work with the original black line wire? I hope that made sense.
Everybody has to give there NEC code tips. This is an existing, not new construction job. It is gfci protected. It is her house. She did an amazing job. That's my input. Thanks
The other style tab "from the outside only" can be pulled in from the box. Just remove the outlet and pull from the inside, they have a T shape to the tabs, the "fin" can be grabbed with pliers and or you can pry them inwards.
Adding a few things. Don't line up the outside box with the inside box. There's not enough depth for boxes back to back. You want to use the same gage wire, and I just drill a 3/8 hole to pass the wire from the old box.
@@AverageCarGuy I think he knows she didn't. He's just commenting it because she didn't say not to line them up in the video and that's helpful to know.
You can line them up just have to use a surface mount t-11 weatherproof box for the outlet. I do this all the time especially adding to brick homes. Chase nipples and t-11 boxes are my go to
I agree with Brian Pimental's and Marcus Olsson 's observations and would like to add one more. You used an extension cord to plug in your heater. The cord had 3 sockets to plug into. I would not recommend using this outdoors. Moisture can corrode or even short out the outlet. Sometimes the short will not trip a circuit breaker and water will actually boil and overheat the outlet. Single ended extension cords are safer outdoors.
Did you have to add wire for length? what if you cant go exactly across from the interior to the exterior.??. Do u have to run all new wire or can u add wire to the existing ? How do u add wire for more length???
😊 did you do this yourself did you have to get help from them and what do ya do if the inside box are old and metal. I want to do this outside on my house one by my front porch and then the other one the left side of the house. Is it easier to do that yourself and cheaper than hiring someone. 😊
Good video with detail but did find it odd you replaced a 15 amp outlet with a 20 amp. This should only be done if all wiring on that circuit is 12 gauge and on a 20 amp circuit. Otherwise replace like for like. Since putting the 20 amp outlets in on 14 gauge wire or 15 amp circuit can lead to people overloading it easier plugging in high draw power tools etc. Its also against NEC to have 20 amp outlets on 15 amp circuits.
Hard to believe it was a year ago i watched this!! I actually added an outdoor outlet today. They don’t call me a ball of fire ☄️ for nothing!! All went well. Thanks again! I didn’t pay close attention to the connectors and got 3 slots not 4 😮. The good news is if the cats get wet in the rain I can now toss them into the outdoor dryer. They should be fluffed up when they get out! Mad, but fluffy!
Looks good! up here in the great white north frozen tundra of C ND< (-24F last weekend)I would never never never cut a hole to put an outlet into an outside wall just due to the cold and frost bleeding through the wall and leaks/cold/into the interior ,But that is just me.
April, I missed something, are you grabbing the existing yellow Romex that is connected to the inside outlet? Or did you run a new line which now that I think about it, defeats the purpose of locating an inside outlet right? So you disconnect the Romex from the inside outlet to run to the new outside outlet, right?
the yellow romex is a little pigtail off of the inside outlet.. so inside outlet works as it used to, and you're just adding an additional wire that connects to the outside outlet
Partners can be great and not have the same interests as I do. Being handy is fine but not necessary to be a good partner in life. Thanks for watching.
I want to do this on my back patio, but the outlet I want to tie into was seal with spray foam. So I can't just push wire through like you. Any suggestions?
April, WR gfci is mandatory as of NEC code for outside, or, put gfci on inside and regular WR on outside. Sheathing should just come through box, tabs hold cable in place. Anything done now is at least gfci or multi function breaker in panel. Only thing is that I case of fire or inspection insurance will deny you a single penny. A gfci breaker will eliminate inline gfci receptacles. Also, phase 2-3 usually surge protector is also mandatory. Electrical has gotten very expensive. Please remember turn power off when drilling or cutting in walls. Thankyou young lady. Stay safe.
