How to add PH2.0 "powerwhoop" connector to your batteries - QUICK GUIDE

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PH2.0 has become the new "standard" in micro 1S quads. It is small, light, reliable and can deliver enough power.
If you are like me and have plenty of 1S LiPo batteries with MicroLosi (or other connectors), maybe it is time to switch to PH2.0…
I have had a lot of trouble in the past, when crimping so small connectors. I tried a few cheap crimping tools but none of them worked consistently enough for me.
The crimpers from Engineer Inc. are highly recommended and I don't regret spending the extra cash to get one. Crimps have been perfect since my first try.
This is QUICK GUIDE: How to add PH2.0 "powerwhoop" connector to your batteries - Let's go!
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You can watch the more in-depth crimping tutorial by Painless360, who was actually one of the people that suggested the Enginner tools to me a while ago: • RC Tips: Crimping conn...
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@filiped7298 5 лет назад

Learned something new, so have my thumbs up!👍😉

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

:D Thanks!

@carolinacabrera747 3 года назад

Great I've jumped into this video. It opened my mind :)

@muteFPV 3 года назад

I am happy you found it useful!

@MCsCreations 5 лет назад

Really nice work, dude. 😊

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

Thanks mate :D

@Cruis3zFPV 5 лет назад

Very nice! Thanks for sharing 🙏👍

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

Thanks for liking it :P :)

@jakerock_ 4 года назад

Thank you... AGAIN. yr vids are fantastic!

@muteFPV 4 года назад

Thank you very much :D

@jakerock_ 5 лет назад

LMAO @ The new intro! Awesome. Another great video, thanks man!

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

:D Glad you liked it!

@mythicfpv8887 5 лет назад

Hey with the betaflight hive backpack I like it but, do you know if it fits the qx7?

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

I can check for you when I get back home later tonight

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

Yep, fits perfectly fine

@ChriFux 5 лет назад

i just got the hobbyking jst sh crimping tool for like 10€ on sale and it's bigger slot works perfectly fine for jst ph as well

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

Thanks for the info! I had bought something similar from a local shop and returned it, it was THAT bad :P Glad to hear the Hobbyking one worked well!

@pcm2638 5 лет назад

great job

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

Thank you :)

@thorsten7868 2 года назад

Suggestion: How to add a GNB27 connector to your (PH2.0) batteries

@muteFPV 2 года назад

I have thought about doing such a video for the GNB27 and BT2.0 but it is more or less the same as adding an XT30 or XT60 connector. I am not sure if it will be helpful or necessary.

@TheDvdspeler 5 лет назад

Nice job! How many amps are these plugs rated?

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

Another user said that both PH2.0 and Microlosi are rated for 2A. I did a quick search but cannot find a datasheet for the Microlosi connectors. Keep in mind that 2A doesn't mean it is the absolute maximum of course. In reality, I don't feel there is significant difference between the two and with the PH2.0 being "standard" in most recent micro quads, it is mostly a matter of convenience for me personally. If I were to need more power and do a connector upgrade in a specific build, I would go to JST.

@Temporal_Flux 5 лет назад

Nice. I need to do this with some of my micro-losi batteries. I was going to just solder wires (that already had a PH2.0 connector on one end) directly to the cell tabs but, I can't find any PH2.0 plugs that have silicone wires with a thick enough gauge. I guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet and get a decent set of crimpers.

@Temporal_Flux 5 лет назад

Actually, I just saw the price of the crimpers. I can't justify that for just a few batteries.

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

It is not cheap, that is for sure. But keep in mind you can also crimp motor plugs (1.25mm for brushed whoops or for larger motors like the Tinyhawk), do your own JST harnesses for Rx, VTx and a lot more, related to multirotors. I haven't had good experience with cheap crimpers but you could give one a try, for example the JST SH from Hobbyking, which was recommended in another comment earlier.

@Temporal_Flux 5 лет назад

@@muteFPV I usually prefer to direct-solder stuff than use connectors at all. But, obviously you can't do that with battery connectors and, it isn't practical in some other cases. I'll certainly think on it some more.

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

Please let me know if you find a source for good quality PH2.0 battery leads with thick silicone cables

@Temporal_Flux 5 лет назад

@@muteFPV I surely will.

@justhackitfpv 3 года назад

Hey Why is it so that I can't find JST-SH(FC and VTX Cable) connector kit online is there something special with it

@muteFPV 3 года назад

There are plenty of JST-SH crimp kits on AliExpress. Are you looking for a specific type/size?

@justhackitfpv 3 года назад

@@muteFPV I want to make my own fc cable but I can't find a single kit on net for crimping jst-sh probably it's 1mm so it's hard to do at home I Guess

@muteFPV 3 года назад

I haven't looked much for this size, I have a wide range of pre-made harnesses that I use when necessary. I would prefer to make my own too using silicone wires.

@abu8219 5 лет назад

Is the ph2.0 that much better than micro losi? I have a bunch of losi 1s lipos also and chargers. Is it worth the effort and cost to switch or not really? In fact I am waiting on eachine trashcan and was gonna convert that to micro losi but now I'm getting paranoid it's way worse!

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

I don't have any data to back this up but I personally consider both of them equally good. The reason I am switching is that now most quads come with PH2.0, so it will be more convenient to convert my batteries. I already had the crimper and the other tools so it is just the cost of the connectors, which is miniscule. All but one of my chargers do microlosi and ph2.0, so in the end I am "losing" one charger that was microlosi only. Don't obsess over it, do what is more convenient for you :D

@mistercohaagen 5 лет назад

@@muteFPV Make an adapter cable for your odd charger. @A BU, both Molex 2.0 2Pin & JST PH2.0 2Pin connectors are rated for 2 amps "officially", according to the consensus of what I could find. This information seems a bit more vague than I'm sure we'd all like it to be for our application, but if you look at the amount of contact area between the two pins, one is rectangular and the other is square... The rectangular one is about twice as wide as the square pin, so I'd assume they're roughly equal in terms of current handling capacity. No use creating more work for yourself, though I completely understand the impulse of universal standards of compatibility.

@ghafoorhussain6677 5 лет назад

Nice one mate, would you make a video for converting a 1s lipo with PH1.25 connector to a PH2.0 connector maybe and or making 2 1s whoop lip's into a 2s pack by combining the 1s . Albert Kim recently did this. Again cool video thanks.

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

I have been meaning to do a how-to video for splitting and combining LiPo cells but it is a possibly dangerous subject and definitely not for everyone. If I figure out a fool-proof way, maybe I will do a video on the subject. As for converting 1.25mm stick batteries to PH2.0, I honestly don't think it is relevant anymore. I personally have just 1 battery with 1.25mm connector left, everything else now is PH2.0. I expect that people who still have 1.25mm batteries have already used them a lot and going through the hassle of removing the protective casing and replacing the connector will probably not worth the effort.

@ghafoorhussain6677 5 лет назад

@@muteFPV Fare point on the both accounts, i must be the only one left with 1.25mm lipo's :-) quiet correct in finding a "foolproof" method, it could go wrong if your not paying attention. Nice one.

@Stinngerr 5 лет назад

I wonder why you check for polarity? :) Did you expect for colored wires to output differently? :)

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

This is supposed to be a guide, I wanted it to be as complete as possible. It is just an extra step to avoid a simple mistake that can cause all sorts of problems later ;)

@jaduarte93 2 года назад

Hey. Could you make a video about replacing those ph2.0 for bt2.0 . I’d be the happiest human

@muteFPV 2 года назад

Hello! If your batteries have battery leads, it is super simple. Just cut a wire, pass a piece of heatshrink over it, solder it to the BT2.0 and shrink the heatshrink. Then cut the other wire and do the same. If the batteries are stick-type (whoop batteries, with a plastic piece surrounding the PH2.0), it is a bit more tricky. Do your batteries have battery leads or are they "stick-type"?

@pyroarch57 3 года назад

Bloody aggravating music!!!

@muteFPV 3 года назад

Really? I think it suits the video well. Anyway, it is not a music video, I hope at least you found the information useful.

@lucada32 3 года назад

wouldn’t it be easier to just pull the cable out thats already crimped and place it in the new one? no problem with a pair of tweezers for example

@muteFPV 3 года назад

If you mean use the same crimped terminal from MicroLosi for example and put it into the PH2.0 connector, it is not the same shape and it won't work.

@lucada32 3 года назад

muteFPV thanks! If I don’t really have to swap connectors, do I really need a crimping tool for fpv or is it rather rarely used or not at all for the average fpv pilot?

@muteFPV 3 года назад

You will need it very rarely. I do prefer to crimp my own with better wires because some harnesses don't come with good quality flexible wires. But you normally won't need it. Also cheap crimpers are bad, I tried a few before finally buying a good one.

@mistercohaagen 5 лет назад

I always tin the wire and then reflow the solder after I do the crimp. Easier to trust a crimped _and_ soldered connector, especially for aerial use.

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

Interesting idea. Doesn't the fact that you reflow the solder after crimping mean that the crimp itself ends up grabbing less firmly on the wires?

@mistercohaagen 5 лет назад

@@muteFPV My intuition says that crimping into a single deformable cylinder of copper and solder, actually gives it something to bite into with more contact surface, as opposed to a bundle of individual slippery cylindrical pieces of metal that are all parallel with the direction that you'd rather the crimp didn't slide. Then upon reflowing the solder with the crimp attached, the solder fills in even more space that would otherwise be air gaps. Better for current flow, and ensuring that the crimp is mechanically welded to the wire. Also it makes sure that every strand of wire is inside the connector, and makes it easier to insert since that tool is a bit awkward, especially with sub-millimeter connections and

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

I agree with crimping on the tinned wires, I am just not sure if reflowing afterwards is indeed better. Anyway, I will try it for myself as well, it is a nice idea.

@chrisongtj86 4 года назад

@@muteFPV i also solder my crimped wires, they are bombproof after that. Really strong

@onclefly8450 5 лет назад

Me I prefer microlosy connector more power ! 👍 😉 The crimpers Engineer PAD-11-10-09 crimping tool very expensive. -1 It's better soldering ! +1 I prefer to direct-solder it's better and stonger ! +1 👍 🖐

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

Please share if you have data for the MicroLosi being better than PH2.0, I couldn't find any solid information. I agree with you, the crimpers are not cheap (but they are built to last). Since I already have the crimper, I prefer to change the connector than solder. If you solder a PH2.0 cable on the battery it is not any stronger than crimping it yourself, the PH2.0 is crimped on the cables you used anyway.

@VincentFischer 5 лет назад

I would agree without having data. Just with common sense. the contact surface is much bigger with microlosi. also microlosi uses very soft metal (tinned) that has a very low resistance. Also from my experience, PH2.0 wears out faster than microlosi. I'm defenetly in team microlosi

@onclefly8450 5 лет назад

@@VincentFischer It's that, true. 👍 On my Snapper7 I add a microlosy with flight better and more flight time, after I do that on my Eachine UK and US 65 the result is the same better, too. 😉

@exposer3339 5 лет назад

is it true that ph2.0 can take 30x battery swap before it is fucked?

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

Based on personal experience, definitely not. The 1.25mm connector used to be much more problematic. Also I wouldn't expect the male (quadcopter side) connector to cause any problems. If the female (battery side) crimp becomes loose after use and the surface area of the contact becomes less, I don't know. 30 times is too few.

@exposer3339 5 лет назад

@@muteFPV yeah otherwise id be done in a day when my mobula arrives. Gonna order an xt30 nonetheless but good to know im good for now. Thanks

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

You're welcome :) I consider an XT30 overkill for something like the Mobula7 but it depends on what batteries you intend on using. JST will be fine as well.

@exposer3339 5 лет назад

@@muteFPV it's the V1, with 2x 1S in series. I've heard that it causes a bigger voltage sag. And the performance is not as good compared to a "true" 2S battery or something. If that is true than it might be worth it no?

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

Yes of course, I meant the usual red JST, which is available in many 2S batteries. Not the stock PH2.0 :)

@markvandesande8855 5 лет назад

Erm not bad try pico crimps lol. 😂😁

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

I have crimped motor plugs for brushed 6mm motors ;)

@p.i.engineer398 5 лет назад

The pa-09 sucks. The connectors get stuck in it.

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

Thanks for the feedback, I have read great reviews about it. I went for the PAD version so I can have dies with larger crimp sizes. Which crimping tool did you replace it with?

@p.i.engineer398 5 лет назад

@@muteFPV I just annoyingly struggle with it. I like the crimper you used. I may pick it up.

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

I am very satisfied with it so far.

@mistercohaagen 5 лет назад

I have both (I really like Engineer products). I like the PA-09 a more for doing bigger stuff like Dupont connectors, cause the whole head of the tool is flat. The PAD-02 kit is the only decently affordable tool I've found to do all the newer dronecode GH connectors, cause they're way too tiny. It's just hard to keep the connector in position while you're crimping when it's recessed for the purpose of interchangeable tool dies. This is the cheapest place to find it that I've found btw; hobbyking.com/en_us/handy-crimp-tool-complete-set.html $104.32USD and includes all 3 dies (0.7mm - 3.7mm).

@muteFPV 5 лет назад

I agree, the PAD is a very versatile crimping set and not that expensive for the range it can crimp.

@eduardoserrano5453 3 месяца назад

How about the female counterpart?

@muteFPV 3 месяца назад

It is usually already soldered on the multirotor, but if you are building one yourself I am not recommending a crimped PH2.0 connector. Find out why in my video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jscLabUvLPQ.html For footage on soldering a PH2.0 you can check this build: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bfir1S5SF0M.html