every bow works differently. on some bows you have to turn a full 360 degrees on others you turn 180 for example on this particular compound bow the manual says back out three turns to set at 60 pounds if you back out three full turns you actually set it to the high 40s if you back out 3 half turns you set it at 61 pounds. this is not a $4,000 Precision machined compound bow you get what you get every bow will vary on how many turns it is per pound
actually they all adhear the the same standard where 1 turn is 360 degrees in rotation, not a half turn. and yes each bow is different beacause they use a different length limb bolt with different pitch threads. for examplee my mission ballistic will increase 2lb per turn which is 4lb per turn on both limbs, where as the PSE evolve (worth over twice the ammount) requires 1 turn per 1lb per limb. but the ballistic can onlky back out a max of 5 turn and the evolve 8 turns all because of different length bolts, the limbs are quite likely from the same factory as most bows use a gordon glass limb
Had the bow set up at a pro shop. It performed just fine ru-vid.comUgkxQEKUoxLWwayEDZR0NKB-5limn4MBU-2L . And I would say this is a good starting now that I could pass down to my son when he is older.But the package was missing the release and a nock was missing from one arrow.Dealing with customer support was terrible. They suggested I buy a new release rather than correct their own quality control issue because it’s to expensive for the. to ship it out from China.Update: manufacturer got back to me and resolved the issue. I retract the above statement.
Good video,,,for those who are confused to what a 'turn' is, depending on which compound bow you have, the manual could indicate a 'turn' as 180 deg while another will indicate 360 deg as a 'turn'.
Thanks for your video just picked up a bear cruzer this really help me understand setup issues as I'm new to bow hunting even though I'm 52 years old!!
Thank you! You answered my question within 3 minutes of this video! I just bought my first compound bow from a 2nd hand shop and the draw weight is jacked up so high no one could even pull it back with their feet. I've only ever owned recurve bows so this is a little new to me. All the other videos I saw that were SUPPOSED to be about adjusting draw weight started out by completely disassembling the pully system and ended with "people new to compound bows should just take it to an archery shop" Seems really silly when all I need to do (right now) is rotate some screws. I'll worry about draw length when I figure out how to actually get it drawn back more than 1/8".
Nope, found out even at minimum draw weight the bow is 50 lbs. This isn't going to work because I draw 30lbs recurve, probably could do 40 lbs compound, this 50 lbs minimum bow is not right for me. Anyone need a 2nd hand bowtech with 70-50lbs draw weight?
@@anastasiacline6159 haha im in a similar boat. 55 pound minimum draw bow for a beginner is uhm.. rough. I can handle it but it definitely takes its toll on my muscles. And thats as a pretty healthy young guy too. Plus my draw length is still a bit too long I think.
@@anastasiacline6159 Hi just wondering how do you tell a minimum draw weight of a Compound bow? I have a Bowtech Commander, with limbs rated at 60#. And similar to you I draw only 30-35 lbs on recurve bows. There is no way in hell I can draw a 50-60 lbs compound bow. I am trying to find out what is the minimum draw weight I can adjust it without it exploding into pieces...
For a bow manual go to www.beararcheryproducts.com and you can download one for free, it has a very detailed draw weight chart etc, I know mine did not come with a manual from the store.
Very good and helpful informatiom, however; I agree with the previous comment. 1 turn is all the way around, what you are doing is 1/2 turn. Now a suggestion, try to get additional lighting (we appreciate it) and also a mic on your shirt will also improve the quality and sound of your videos. Thank you
Bear make great quality bows, but In my experience, the adjustability of the CRUZER is a bit oversimplified. It's an easy process but I have found that at its shorter draw length/s it can't be maxed out at its claimed maximum poundage. Still, excellent adjustability without a bow press. Good tutorial, thank you!
look at your manual. it will specifiy the maximum turns (360) whice is safe to back off by. he has done a poor job for most of the video and his information is not solid
cleadge the manual says 12 turns. So manual means 12 “full” turns? I did 12 “half” turns and the screw sticks out quite a bit. Scared to go more until I know for sure
Hey Thank you for your video, helped me out a lot i just bought this bow, I am a beginner. I am haveing a very hard time setting the draw length to 30", I feel this is the only setting that does not work for this bow, could you check it out and let me know if I am crazy or if I am missing something here?
I am a little confused , you talk about turns (360deg) but in the video you only do half turns (180 deg) i have a Hoyt Ruckus I need to take down for my kid . Hoyt say max 8 turns , are these 180 deg turns or 360 deg turns ?
It’s a very “ Generic” estimate, consider it the Kentucky windage of draw length, not perfect for everyone, some people have shorter than average arms, some people have really long arms, some people are very flexible and some aren’t.
Please keep in mind that this video is particular to that model bow: A Bear CRUZER. It's made to be highly adjustable. Most compound bows cannot be adjusted this much. Many cannot have the limb bolts loosened by more than 6 turns. Beyond that and they will be destroyed.
I just purchased a bear cruzer x from Dick's. I know very little, I bought it for my daughter. I asked the salesman if he could adjust the length and weight for her. He spent 45 minutes in a press. Now I see this video and no press needed. I'm very confused. He didn't allow me in the room with the press. But, why did he use a press, if one isn't needed? And if one isn't needed, can using one do damage?
im confused. you said one turn but when you demonstrated you only did half turns but said out loud the words "one turn" are you saying that one half turn equals 2lbs? totally confused by you.
yes, every time you adjust your draw weight, draw length, shoot a diffrent arrow weight or type of arrow or even change from a training point to a broad head you will have to re zero your sights. just keep in mine with skill accounted for you will be a inch or two off so unless your taking a trophy shot or competition most people I know can use Kentucky windage because it's very impractical to zero your sights every single time.
I explain in the pinned comment, the short answer is yes I’m backing out 1/2 turn at a time so two half turns equal a full turn so that I make sure my bolts are even.
One turn is 360 degrees, so is it 4 lbs half a turn or full turn, and one and a half turns is not 9 lbs then it is ten lbs and you are at 60 lbs not 61, you are making this more confusing than it should be
I have an old Buckmasters BTR compound bow. I want to adjust the draw weight. I tightened the hex screws all the way down and then backed them out 5 full turns each. When I measure the gap from string to bow there is a 1/2 inch difference. If I back out the hex screws an equal number of turns shouldn't the measurement be the same?
They should be, sounds like maybe one of your limbs isn’t flexing properly? What you’re referring to is called the Tiller. Some bows do have a difference in tiller between the top and bottom and some don’t, I don’t know nothing about that specific bow so I would recommend hitting up a archery shop and having them check it out especially if it’s a older bow. Way you could do is see if you can find measurements posted for that specific bow and see if it lines up with what you have.
Ive just got a Hori-zone airborne. Meant to be adjustable 70-40pound. Turn bolts two turns and massive gap. Made only slight difference. The info that come with it has hard to see photos of the cams only and meantions draw weight and target/fishing, then about the stoppers. Thats it. No response from the manufacturer either
Good video, but you spoke of a (whole) turn but only rotated half a turn. There may be just one or two people who weren't clear about this. I liked it, thankyou.
What is the bar thingy with the looks like fins on a fan for? I’m new and don’t know anything bout compound bows and just got one yesterday. But I like to learn just not schooling lol
That is a Apache bow stabilizer, is reduces vibrations and adds counterweight to the front of the bow to stabilize it, in other words it makes the bow more comfortable and accurate.
@@funkmonkeyfun i saw in the video you talked about loosening it by turns and you said one turn when you loosened it only by half turn. Did this mean half turns are full turns or did you misspoke? I have an EK archery REX 20-65lbs bow and the manual says Max 3 turns. Does this mean full turns or half turns? I don't have a bowshop near me that could help so i need to figure this out on my own.
@@p3l1k44n1 I explain this is the pinned comment. Bear states 2-4 lbs per turn is the accuracy, I turn mine half a turn because I run 60lbs on the dot, to do that I need half turns for 1-2 lb increments, I don’t wana run my bow at 57 or 62, that’s why I use half turns to hit 60 lbs exactly on a bow scale, these are not precision bows and have a large tolerance.
the best way to determine your draw length is to go to a archery store and get properly measured with your bow or the bow you intend to purchase! Not by tape measures and guesswork! Tip:- if you cant draw or struggle to draw your bow at all, its too heavy! simple!
The Barnett is not a bad budget bow if that’s what your asking, keep in mind if your taller or have longer arms the Barnett doesn’t feel right, to me it seams even if you max out draw length you still feel hunched up on the bow, and it’s not a particularly fast bow so keep you shots within 30 yards. Other than that it works on the same principals just not as adjustable so almost same as this bow. For the money it’s definitely NOT a bad compound and it’s very usable.
Her bow is a Barnett vortex, it’s not a bad bow and she paid like $80 or so from Walmart for a “kit” however it maxes out at like 45lbs and it’s not the fastest bow, practically speaking it cannot effectively shoot out past 40 yards because of the amount of hold over but inside of 25 yards you can keep a 6” group. However that particular bow is a youth version because she is very short so the draw length is not suitable for a full size adult unless your plinking or have enough experience to shoot from a half draw. I don’t remember exactly but the draw length maxed out at like 26” or something you’d have to google it.
Simple answer is for manufacturers to engrave a line or dot into adjuster screws with a white mark inset. Visual assist to refer to. Cost to do it small. Basic diy improvement .Centre punch mark. Fill with whiteout.
While this bow is a outstanding value the problem is it is a budget bow at $300. These bows are molded and there are inconsistencies in limb material bow to bow so a generic marker system will not be accurate. Bows get their strength from limb material, limb thickness and limb weight and the problem with molding manufacturing while it does cut cost is it's not very accurate. As a example Bear states 1 turn equals 1 pound which is true in a generic sense, for the majority of these bows 1 turn will equal at least 1 pound, however when measuring my particular bow on a scale a half turn equals 1 lb because mine is a little thicker then normal.
One turn is 360 degrees on both limbs with each full turn on both limbs reducing draw weight approximately 4 pounds after a full 360 degrees on both limbs. Six full turns on each limb bolt will take it around 50 pounds. Not two full turns like you said in video.
great video thanks makes a lot things clear for me . i just bought a bow for my self and thinking to get one for my girlfriend , Im not sure witch yet but i was thinking of barnett vortex like your girlfriend or bear cruzer lite? could you tell me how big is the different? thanks
Hi, thank you for watching, I stated very clearly how to obtain a proper draw length, i also stated that the height trick is very very commonly used as a educated guess since most humans conform to a specific symmetry.
I need to find out about that vortex bow. I need to adjust it to max poundage and the draw length out a little more. Im told I need a bow press for that bow.
the 2016 manual has a chart for the cruzer on page 19 that shows a decreasing draw weight as draw length is decreased. there is approximately a 40 lb. difference at each draw length from 0 to 12 turns out. so at a draw length of 24 inches full tight is from 60-64 pounds and 12 turns out is 21 to 24 lb. according to the manual at 28 inch draw you cant get 70 lbs. the assumptions in this video about draw weight and turns are not correct. 40 divided by 12 is 3.33 per turn. i think bear future assumes 12 turns goes from 70 to 5. it don't.
Just got my Cruzer and the draw length bolts on my cams are so tight, I can't back them out. I've almost stripped one trying. Going to have to take it to my archery shop. Hate it when companies do this...
Mine were very tight as well, remember bows take a lot of vibration on the shot so if they are not very snug the will back out which has happened to me before. I bought a set of long Allen wrenches from wall mart and was able to break them free with that
Just bought my first bear compound bow. The cruzer the bow is a nice bow, but the sting was not much good. It only lasted 30 to 35 shoots. Still got past quality control. When I took it out of the box the sting was flied.
bear is a very good company with good customer support, I would recommend you send them a e mail with a picture of the string attached and see if they will work with you about a replacement.
Great tutorial man. Thank you. Just got into bow hunting and the draw weight was really straining my arms. Took it down to 60lbs so I wouldn't get fatigued so quick. Thank you!!
I take it to a known distance range and shot a few at each distance adjusting as I go. I find unless you go up or down more the about 5 lbs your impact point don't really change.
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how can I change the line or make more pounds on the second bow? VORTEX
60lbs is the most you can go on the vortex bows. in order to add more weight to a bow you have to change the limbs to thicker aftermarket limbs which are not made for the vortex. the draw weight of a bow comes from the limbs not the string. there is a fer more complicated explanation then that but that's the basics, with that said 60 lbs is more then enough draw weight for 98% of animals in the world. I run my bows at 60 lbs because I can hold it for over 5 minutes and not have a drop in accuracy and I regularly shoot over 150 arrows per day at the archery club, doing that with a bow at 70lbs vs 60lbs will wear you out. if you buy the vortex get the one that goes to 60 lbs and you will be set for any animal in North America.
