I think this is how I learned when I was a teenager working in a pool hall in the 1940s, without hearing anything about deflection, swerving, gearing, or throw. I liked to spin the cue ball to play position. Most people played 15 ball rotation with the goal of getting to 61 points first-points came from the number on the ball, so you could win with only five balls, the highest numbered four stripes and the 7-ball. To me, learning to play position was the key to winning. Since retiring in 2010, I started playing pool and snooker again and have enjoyed such lessons as this one and those from Dr. Dave that explain and illustrate the detailed physics involved with billiards games.
Thank you GT. Wow,,,you have many many years into this great game. There is so much to it. I know I won’t have enough years to learn the knowledge you have. Thank you for sharing and for your kind words 👍🏻😊 ❤️🎱
This video is a great lead into back hand English, front hand Eglish, parrelel adjustment, etc. I think is even more confusing than throw. Every cue can be zero deflection if you know how to adjust bhe fhe for your cue and speed but it's a lot. Most people just learn by feel from what I've noticed by asking around as I learn. Another great video Ron... great for that bank video 😊
Spin took me from a SL2 to an SL5 in APA in a matter of months. I was a decent new player but I had issues moving the ball around the table especially on 8’-9’ tables. I worked on my stroke and fundamentals and at the same time kept practicing how to aim with spin. Everything seem to come together at once and now I’m a pretty tough competitor on league nights. Everyone kept telling me not to use spin but it has taken me to a level I only dreamed of less than a year ago. I can’t thank you, Dr Dave, FXbilliards, and Sharivari enough. Through hours of practice and tips from you guys I am really excelling at an accelerated pace!
Awesome to hear Randall and thank you for including me with the elite channels. I too was told not to use spin. I knew it was the wrong advise at the time for where I wanted my game to go. You and I know the importance of knowing how to aim with spin so now, the sky is the limit 👍🏻💪🏻👍🏻 Thanks again ❤️🎱
This is still the BEST side spin training video I've ever seen for those learning!!!!!! At first, I even put reinforcements on the ghost ball spot for consistency.
Yes but it’s so arduous to practice. I try every day at least an hour. Some days I miss and that is something I am struggling with. These videos help get me motivated. ❤
Without the most difficult and frustrating component of my game. When I aim with English it's 50/50 whether I make it and I always say and want to go back to shooting with no English, but I know I will never become a better player until I turn the corner on understanding this. Thx Ron.
Do this Matt: Set up a cut shot by marking the cue ball and object ball locations. From there, shoot the shot with low outside, low inside, top outside and top inside. Keep shooting these shots until your mind begins to recognize the ghost ball position based on successful makes. Shoot with the same speed during each shot as slow & fast cue ball speeds will drastically change cue ball squirt. Do this until you’re proficient. Once proficient, experiment with more speed. You will notice the required aim point will vary. This is how I’ve learned to aim with english. Hope that makes sense 👍🏻
Absolutely agree with Ron, you just have to keep shooting shots over and over with English until it becomes automatic. Speed plays a huge roll when using English, to this day it’s hard for me to use English on a slow roll.
@@randallgibson8619 thank you Randall. As far as slow roll shots, we must develop that compact stroke that can impart the desired english. The issue arises in that we think we need to hit the shot firmly in order to make the english work. This is actually incorrect. In fact, when we shoot with more finesse, the english will grab more easily. This becomes apparent when the distance from the object ball to a cushion is close. I like watching snooker matches by great players where they methodically spin the white around the table with precision and finesse. A lot can be learned by watching their stroke. For me, I one day figured out that I didn’t need to stroke so hard to get the desired position result. Today, I’ve come to understand I had been using subtle stun when I was spinning the cue ball. Now, I work to shoot these shots with controlled finesse. This happens when I match up the speed of the tip going through the cue ball, with the required english used. This takes time to figure out and to find that eureka moment, but through slowing down our stroke and shooting with more finesse, one day it will hit you. Thanks again and hope this helps 👍🏻
For me it's LONG shots with English that made me miss too much. Short shots with English are much easier. I pretty much don't do long shots with English any more. I only use top/bottom spin to avoid missing the ball in the pocket. There's no point in getting position if you miss pocketing the ball!
As always great video Ron. Thank you for the effort and time you put into these. Going to put this one in today’s lineup. Probably after spot to spot, which I’m up to 8 in a row. I occasionally beat the ghost in 9. Takes a little luck and bih but I’m definitely getting better from the practice you motivate me to do. Thanks!
Awesome John and thank you. Defeating the ghost is not easy. The vast majority of Pool Players aren’t able to run out let alone do that. As for my content, I show every method I’ve used through these last 35 months. It’s my hope that you and others can maybe take away something that will help your games. As I’ve said before, we are all in this together,,,so let’s get better together 👍🏻💪🏻👍🏻 Thanks again ❤️🎱
Thank you transmit knowledge and for the inspiration. I really enjoy spending hours doing drills..Joy comes from focusing and understanding and progressing
Thank you Jhana, it’s my goal to share all I’ve learned with others. Also, you’re correct in saying it’s rewarding to gain knowledge through our practice methods 👍🏻
Another banger. I think what sets you apart from other Pool-tubers is that you know the struggles of being a beginner because it wasn't all that long ago that you were one. So, you're more familiar with what we need help with and how to go about teaching the remedies. That's my guess. It could be that you're just a good teacher. Or maybe you're good at articulating your thoughts. I don't know, but something definitely sets you apart from the others. There is no need to respond. I'm just making an observation.
It was meant in a good way. :) Nice and clear instruction. I've been playing a long time so I know Al these drills. Nice to see different practise routines.
Great video and drill! Side spin has go to be one of the most frustrating things to learn as missing normally pocketed balls while learning can be discouraging. One step back and two forward I guess.
Thank you VW2F. I used to have players tell me to give up on using spin and just hit center ball. Had I of listened, my game today would be mediocre at best. By sticking to the plan and learning to compensate aim for which spin was being applied, I now feel super comfortable with any spin shot. Also, I just finished a video about flowing into the shot-line. I actually highlight one of two shots during a nine ball run out where I used spin to flow into the line and how I had to aim at the shot. Stay tuned as I’ll be publishing the new video Sunday morning. Thanks for weighing in 👍🏻
Will definitely check that video out! Yea I started really getting back into pool about 6 months ago, cleared off my home table and started back again. Gotten to the point where the racks I don’t run, aside from a miss here or there, are due to not being able to get position on the next ball with only top or draw spin and my game has stagnated. Will need to use side spin to advance to the next level. What’s funny is I had the same thought that you were told in that I should just forget about using side as when I practiced it, was frustrating. Like I mentioned though, I feel it’s needed to get to the next level and as I’m sure you are, will be glad I took the time to get somewhat proficient at it. Btw, love the channel and watching some of your older vids was awesome to see the progress you’ve made in such a relatively short time. Pretty inspiring to say the least!
@@VetteWay2Fast thank you VW2F. Btw, there’s no reason any player should plateau in my opinion. What it takes is commitment to perfect shots that are not comfortable. It’s then about putting in the time to ingrain everything from pre-shot, to sound fundamentals and shot making for position. By structuring practice sessions as I have shown in my videos, the only thing that can stop a player is themselves. Thanks again and please reach out with any questions you may have. I can direct you to one of my tutorials or answer your question I’m sure 👍🏻 ❤️🎱
@@VetteWay2Fast here you go VW2F. This is a clip from an upcoming shot-line video. Flowing into the shot-line ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LSLAnfRO-Zw.html
Hey Ron,,,great video. Practice, practice. We just hosted a tournament with an 1100 dollar purse. Local stuff. Was a lot of great pool playing, and opportunities to see things on action with advanced players.
Thank you Richard, I appreciate it. What puzzles me, is how some who have commented here, could not grasp my message. Learning to aim with spin, can only be learned by experimenting and shooting over and over until the shooter can grasp the physics. This one thing is what holds back so many Players. The best instructor can’t simply tell another Player how to aim a shot with english. There’s way too many factors that have to match up. The shooter themselves, must be able to process their own feedback to answer the question; “how do I aim with spin” 🤷🏻♂️
Yep, you’re so right. Many times i’m faced in a situation where I have to REALLY minimize drift from the cue ball on a slight cut angle. Through thousands of shots, I’ve learned to really slow down my stroke with just enough speed to literally lag the ball to the pocket, with about a whole ball over the aiming spot to allow for the throw with a ton of right or left english. This takes many hours of practice getting that english and throw down to minimize the drift of the cue ball after contact. A great lesson Ron, and so true. Well stated.
@@richarddnewphonedonahoe3496 thank you Richard, our back and forth will be read by viewers which will better help them understand. Thanks again 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@gregfariss4686 Sorry Greg, I do not but thank you for your interest. I’ve had others ask this before so I may have to look into this. The problem is that I have always said I would not charge for my instructions so I’d have to go out of pocket if I do provide a book in the future.
Thank you Danny, I can’t tell you the hours I spent on these shots from these two positions. Also; I just finished a follow up video on why shooting from one side of the table is easier than from the other. I give the reasons why and how to overcome this common issue. Stay tuned as I’ll be publishing it Monday morning. Thanks again 👍🏻 ❤️🎱
Thank you and here you go Terry, I have a few vides showing gearing affect. This one demonstrates a great look at a cut shot/spot shot, where the elephant ball takes the gearing by the cue ball, which in turn, creates pure forward directional roll on the elephant ball. See link below: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-89DSXwXF9kI.htmlsi=cl-xvyX300LsDZ3Y
Here’s another example shown in a bank shot from my earlier days. See link below: Slow motion spin transfer/pocket more off angle bank shots ru-vid.com4pJ_wIH2Eag?feature=share
Can you tell me if you are using front hand English, back hand English, a mix, or parallel cue position when shooting with English? Was also wondering, seems like front hand English (aiming for no English then moving front hand to left or right) doesn’t squirt the ball as much, but I can’t tell if it is true and also is the same spin. After not playing for years, I started up about 8 months ago. Was playing at a pool hall on the same table mostly. The cloth was worn on it, and I noticed at times not having the cue ball react the same as in your videos all the time, or when trying shots ot of the 99 essential shots book I have that is great for practice. Then I went to a table where I saw they had just changed the cloth and oh my god, what a difference. Seemed like draw shots worked way better, and more predictable, as did English and position shooting.
Thank you Shader. I actually just shift my cue for the spin intended as I feel the shot. I’ve tried BHE and FHE but never had success. I’ve alway dropped into the shot-line with my cue oriented to apply the needed spin for the particular shot. Of course squirt and throw must be calculated in order to send the cue ball to my intended target. Hope that makes sense. Also yes, newer cloth is more predictable as well.
Great video. I think when time or $$ permit, you should upgrade your light for these videos. I have the Diamond light. I love it. For what you're doing, and especially for this camera angle, I think that rectangular LED light would be perfect! Sometimes called the "Predator" light. I forget the name of the company. I'm sure you've seen it by now. 👍🎱
Ron, thanks again for a great training exercise. ( drill } 😮. Wish I had a way to watch your video while I am at the table. Perhaps, I should get my own table, ah well, another challenge. I could take my iPad to the clubhouse, I guess. Gotta figure out how to download the video to the iPad. Definitely gonna add this one to my practice routine!
Thank you Mark, much appreciated and glad this helped. Having a home table is a great thing if you have the space. On a whim, you can jump on to shoot at any time. Also, having a RU-vid channel will make you a better player 😉. When I shoot my videos for instance, I try to stroke correctly and use sound fundamentals so others can feed off it. In knowing this, when you head to your club, make sure you execute each and every shot with fundamentally sound control. I hope this helps. Thanks again 👍🏻❤️🎱
Or, if the pool hall doesn’t have Wi-Fi (if it does you are all set) you can simply bring your cell phone, turn in “hotspot” (sometimes called Wi-Fi hotspot” and then turn on Wi-Fi on the iPad and connect to it. Now it will use the phone GSM connection but to the iPad looks same as Wi-Fi. You may have to set a few obvious settings (such as give it a name and maybe a PIN number on the phone hotspot settings) and enter the same pin first time you try it with iPad. Alternative, watch this video on iPad in full screen and simply pause video take screenshots at points you want to be sure to be able to check.
It would be really helpful if you did a video on adjustment for dirty balls. I play in two locations. One is a pool hall with top tables that play fast. The other is a bar that's dirty. My table I've got new predator cloth on that plays pretty fast. When I play at the bar, I'm not as good. Its puzzling me.
I like these shots ur for people just starting the aim never changes by more than 1 cue ball but the harder u hit the less u have to compensate for and more gental u will need to adjust aim more
This is how I learned to aim with english. I’ve only been playing 35 months and early on, I couldn’t get a straight answer as to how to aim with spin. Here’s another more up to date video of my progression. See link below: New grip equates to nine ball 3 pack ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-n5LN0enP_d8.html
@@ronthepoolstudent i thing the biggest think to remember this is more for snooker it is not needed for pool tht often i can 7 ball off the break in pool only useing screw and foward with the odd bit af side if a ball is cushioned apart from tht this is more for positioning on black with snooker
@@ronthepoolstudent the shots ur making with all the side spin are more used in snooker u would become a very gd snooker player with ur shots im seing pool u dont need it i can 7 ball off the break useing only backspin and foward on the cue ball consistanly side spin is not needed where for snooker it is needed a lot
@@samjames2388 if you meant side spin is not needed in Pool, this can only be true if you play 100% perfect position. Since this is not at all possible to achieve (even by Pros), side spin is then often needed to position the cue ball back in line.
Why are "we" better from one side than another in this type of exercise. I struggle like crazy on right to left shots, where the other way, everything is easy and natural. When I stand up, looking at a right to left shot, I know what I want to do. However, when I get down on the ball, it doesn't look right to my brain and it tries to manipulate my body to correct it, but it doesn't know exactly how. It's been a struggle forever and I can't fix it. BTW, I'm left eye dominant (right handed) and I've tried adjusting my head over the cue to see if that makes a difference, and it does not.
Thank you Jeff and Jeremy, this was my question as well early on. The only way I can put it is it’s like this; since the cue is on the inside of our body on one shot, yet on the other side on the other shot, our stance is entirely different as a result. Because of this, our mind sees this mirrored shot as being totally different. The way I’ve overcome this anomaly, is to shoot shot after shot from one side till I master it, I then immediately switch to the other side to repeat. In time, your brain WILL adapt. It took me about 5- 6 months (not kidding) to finally grow comfortable from both sides. Today, it’s totally natural in that I don’t even see it as an issue. I simply step into the shot-line and shoot. I hope that helps both of you. Give this the attention it deserves and you too will overcome. Thanks again 👍🏻
@@ronthepoolstudent thank you Ron. I have had this lingering theory that a lot of issues are just stance and stroke rather then an issue aiming. I will give this some worj
@@ronthepoolstudent maybe a poll to see which cut each hand of player is comfortable with? Shooting left I like cuts to the right, but shooting right handed I prefer cuts to the left. Same eyes, maybe the freedom that the cue is not trapped by your body?
Thank you Clay for your question. Visualize a cut shot to the left. There’s the inside of the cut angle (left side) and there’s the outside of the angle (right side). Inside spin/english will be to the left side of the vertical axis of the cue ball, while outside spin/english will be to the right side of vertical axis on the cue ball. Hope that makes sense.
That light business sounds like a bunch of work to me. I watched Josh on APA pool video install one in real time. What a head ache! Always enjoy your videos Fast Ronnie. Lol
Thanks James. On the light, my center bulb is of a different softness as one burned out and I didn’t have the same to replace it with. I need to pick up three new 150 Ws today. As far as changing it out, I thought about it so I could set up an overhead straight down camera view. With the standard center light, this does hinder doing that. Also, as a fabricator and tool & die maker by trade, I would build my own. I have priced this out and found I would be able to custom build one for under $150. All this said, I’m not sure however, as I’m still on the fence 🤷🏻♂️
Dig deep and keep shooting them from marked locations. It will take time but once you grasp matching up speed of your stroke with the english you’re imparting on the cue ball, you’ll make these shots with consistency. Personally, this has taken me a good two years to begin to grasp. Now that I’m 35 months in, my consistency to pocket shots has skyrocketed. All I can say is to shoot daily, your troubled shots. Stay dedicated and focused and don’t get negative. I embraced the failure and recognized it as part of the process to gather feedback. From there, make adjustments till you grasp the physics. Good luck James and keep me posted. ❤️🎱
Here are the pockets shortly after the table was installed. Today, they are 1/8” smaller than in the clip below Michel. See link below: Olhausen “Belmont” factory pockets ru-vid.comeUOtOTUlkb0?feature=share
@@midrenthje the cloth is almost six months old today Michel. I change it out once a year as I play on average six hours daily. New vs broken in is totally different for sure 👍🏻
