One of the worst saw traps imo She didn't know what was happening:she couldnt have helped herself like john says Besides it was too spectacular not really in Jigsaw fashion
@@naruto23303 no it was Hoffman's doing he set up all these traps in the movie it shows that he sets up all these games as he was needing to get to Jill and since he knew Jill would go to the police the only way he could get to her was by setting up more traps which is why he set up another set of games despite it seeming like Gordon was the one behind them since Gordon didn't like how the person only pretended to be in a trap was using something he actually did go through as a way to get fame and Gordon wouldn't of put Bobby's wife in the trap especially since he could of found out that she didn't know about his lies he cares about the victims while Hoffman and Amanda don't care about them meaning he wouldn't care if they survive or die while Gordon thinks they deserve a second chance just like the one he was given agreeing to help John when he needed to
@@naruto23303 what the person below you said. All of these traps were Hoffman. The reason John enlisted Gordon as the 4th Jigsaw killer is because he was testing both Amanda and Hoffman while he was alive, to see if they would abide by his rules. Both failed. His biggest rule is every trap must be escapable. Amanda broke that by strapping the detective to the unbeatable chest trap with the acid key. Hoffman broke it with... Well, basically everything he ever created... Shotgun Carousel being the first to come to mind. None of the players had a choice whether they actually lived or died. It was up to the guy (was his name William?). All "contenders" are meant to be able to fight for their survival. Not have it chosen for them, which is how John's traps went. Because both Amanda and Hoffman couldn't be trusted, he also tested both of them, inevitably costing both their lives, as they couldn't follow his rules.
I know, it was a kind of wtf moment. Like, she was pretty much the most innocent person there’s with no idea why she was there, and she gets stuck with possibly the slowest, most painful death of all of them.
Her death really got to me because of that. I also didn't like how Beverly Mitchell's character and the Jonas character died in Saw II. Their chances at surviving were taken from them. They never really got the chance to fight for it.
@@bennysusanto5524 like any woman on this world, who would want a loser? That's a reason to kill her? There was none, but justice is not a way of behaving of nature. As long as you dont create it, it will never be.
@@agrippa5643 lol its just an explanation. None of Jigsaw's acts across any of the films is justifyable, don't take it personally. No one is deffending murder lmao.
Seven year old kid: *gets horrifically flayed alive in a trap that was nigh impossible to escape* Jigsaw: "Heh, that will teach you for borrowing a pen from your classmate and forgetting to give it back"
The end of every Saw movie is basically "Oh, remember this person? Turns out they were working with John the whole time! Can you believe it? So crazy!"
Random fact: Even was gonna survive his trap, but Chester Bennington had too tight a schedule for multiple days of shooting and they couldn’t film his hospital scene
Love that his teeth stop bleeding like a minute after he violently ripped them out. Takes like an hour for teeth to clot after a dentist carefully removes them.
the thing that i love about this series on how to beat the traps is that i feel like john kramer would actually appreciate the people who beat the trap by going outside the box. it shows that their will to live is so strong that they're willing to go against the rules in such a way that they remain unscathed. hoffman and amanda would probably just kill them tho lol
Right?! I was thinking about the fish hook thing and my thought was "Why don't you just have someone cut it out of your stomach?" Sure, you'd bleed a whole bunch, but I presume it'd be easier to fix a bleeding stomach wound with a precise incision than a bunch of ripped up stuff going down the esophagus.
Wasn't that the whole point originally for the traps? They were almost built to be beaten.. in one of the movies jigsaw literally says " your instinct will tell you one thing, I suggest doing the opposite ".. thinking outside the box I think was the whole point. You want to live? Figure out how
Also John: I'm locking you in a room with a slow acting poison and an antidote which is inside a safe. The combination is one of the hundreds of combinations I have written on the wall so you better be quick in finding it. But not too quick because your only light source is a candle you have to hold and I've covered your body in infamible jelly. Also the ground is covered in broken glass and the candle is really small because I think this trap isn't overkill enough. That will teach you to skip work.
@@godz711a8 There's a difference between something being escapable and fairly testing someone. If I was locked in a room with an ticking atom bomb, there is a chance I could defuse it to survive but the chance is also highly unlikely.
@@godz711a8 Well his goal is to force someone to think to make them find the value in life and all the other shit.Alot of his traps are just preposterous for someone who just woke up to solve in 30 seconds.
@@godz711a8 Defeating the purpose of testing their will like your leg or you life or your back or everyone's life and some trials are shit hed have to have Mciver tied to if they want to survive
@@iwilleatyourmother A lot of the Saw sequels are pretty meh for the most part. So I don't blame any one for not wanting watching them. Especially some of the Halloween sequels are straight up garbage and are not worth your time.
Coming back to this series is refreshing to reflect on. What i find to be so horrific about these traps is the stupidly small margin of error the victim has to meet to escape, cheesing the trap or not. On surface level, Kramer does give them a "chance", but it's clear with how ridiculously difficult these traps are that he simply had a god complex. An asshole that shoved his nose into other people's affairs to play the role of life and death, spreading misery in his wake because life didn't go his way. Of course he took in apprentices, wanting to be remembered after his death. He wanted to watch the world burn, so he tried to keep his twisted show going as long as possible.
Fun fact: The test that killed Bobby’s wife is very similar to a torturing machine from centuries ago called “the brazen bull” where the person enters a bronze bull while a fire is roasted under them And another fun fact: There were special pipes that makes the tortured screaming sound like an animal in pain
The man who created the brazen bull literally said he added the pipes so the people could hear the “beautiful music” as the person inside was being punished. Pretty messed up tbh
@@SeaF0amii I guess if you're a key artist under an exuberant dictator in a culture which romanticised perfection from the ground up, there'd be both pressure on you and wild freedoms to create methods of agonising, torturous murder which are perceived by those behind them as 'beautiful'.
And yet he is still less frustrating than Jeff, because he actually tries... (I do actually understand and relate to Jeff but gosh he's an annoying protagonist)
The fishhook trap is just absolutely cruel, especially with the whole decibel meter thing. I cringe just watching it because imagining that thing tearing up her organs is horrifying. Also Joyce (Bobby's wife, did NOT deserve to die AT ALL, and i sorta like John Cramer but i take away cool character points for that kill Jiggyman)
It's actually funny, because the reason we don't think logically in dangerous situations is because of our instincts which were made to save us from predators, however we are so twisted that our traps for killing other humans use that instinct to kill us more easily.
@@yeah-yuh yeah, but that doesn't excuse it. If we know something's wrong, or in this case, death traps, we would want to take EVERYTHING into account, and find anything that can intervene with the traps and stop them from doing whatever it does.
Next move: *Saw: The Engineer* “Bruh these mechanisms suck they’re all in the open” *beats every trap easily by breaking the traps* _”Game over, enter the next room to definitely safely leave”_ “Nah I’m just gonna hack away this wall thanks.”
it depends of your leg length and stretch capability, Chester Bennington (who was making the cameo) has the exact same height as me: 1,78 M. He probably has long legs like me, they are approximately 1,10 M long counting my foot. Considering that i cant move my back if i take time and do it correctly i could reach the lever
Method 2: in the clip that shows his feet are free, there is a clutch. Just press in the clutch and try your best to rock backward. Worst case scenario the girlfriend still dies, best case nobody does
one thing that annoys me so much everytime i watch this movie is the ending when Jill stabs hoffman in the neck and sees he’s still alive, knowing he’s going to kill her, but runs away and tries to hide in a locked building. like she could’ve stabbed him multiple times ensuring he dies or even used the gun (which she SAW he put on the table) and shot him.
Presumably she panicked, but yes. She put him in the face trap previously, she should probably have expected him to come back intent on inflicting grievous bodily harm, so preparing herself to act in a life-threatening situation would have been a good idea.
I know in a high stress situation someone isn't able to think. But Hoffman got stabbed in the neck because he wanted to get one last look at Jill before he killed her. She could've stabbed elsewhere like his eye, while not stopping him, would blind him in at least one eye.
My theory on the reason for the pink blood is in the name. It's Saw 3D. 3D glasses prevent you from seeing red on one lense (which in a saw movie is kinda weird) so they just made it pink.
@@NicosBasement yeah that one is pretty bad, it's usually better to make a blood sacrifice by "falling" and hitting your head on the corner of the door frame (worked everytime when I was a kid)
I think the blood has that color because the movie was 3d, and 3d glasses are usually darker. So the blood should be seen with a darker color with the glasses on
Easy for you to say , im sure if you had a fishhook inside you ripping your intestines, the pain, and the stress of dying a painful death and the idea that you probably will never be found is extreme!! The screams of pain are completely instinctive in the human body this trap was set so that it was almost unbeatable unless bobby did what was pointed in this video
It's really crazy that most of these traps couple be beaten by stopping gears, cutting straps, or clipping wires. I'd love to see the movie where that happens, because the story of whoever set them up coping with it and coming up with new ideas would be so much better.
Random Fact: Chester Bennington (Evan) was actually planned to survived the trap and rushed into the hospital.......but due to his schedule on "A Thousand Suns World Tour" they scrapped it.
Also with Bobbys final test, he could have looped the hooks through his belt loops. Less chance to stab his feet and he doesn't have to balance or anything.
true, he wudnt have had enough time to reach him, but he cudve at least tried the jumping thing again....much smarter than throwing the key to him lmaaoo that wudve made me less frustrated lol
That hook trap has pretty much no escape. Hook lodged so far in would most like do so much internal damage, being killed by spikes seems like better option.
Hoffman: "You've really got a hard-on for gears, don't you?" John: "I will continue to use them until one of them realizes you can just jam them. Goddamn, these people are stupid."
Oh my lord, I love you for censoring that part where he had to pierce himself with hooks. Out of all the traps in this movie, that literally made me feel that pain. It wasnt bloody, but I felt the piercing while he was piercing himself with that hook.
Honestly, i think that the fish hook trap was the most disturbing of the whole series. If i was on her place i'd prolly beg him to just let me die than do this shit
@Ben Fritchley Yeah but that trap was assumably gonna trigger anyway when the time went out. So really the only way to beat that without getting the key is not going in the room so Jigsaw doesn’t activate it, but then again he’s always watching and could come out to punish you.
Jigsaw, aka John Kramer, was long dead by this point in the series. That was a big plot point that flew right over the head of a lot of Saw critics. The entire idea was that when *Jigsaw* made traps... they were all escapable in some sort of manner. However, his protege's, such as Amanda and Hoffman, quickly bastardized the whole concept and made inescapable death traps rather than "redemption" traps. Obviously, Jigsaw is still responsible for the death of the wife due to setting the whole trap thing in motion, but he wasn't the direct killer.
@Jacob Pleggenkuhle that guy wouln't get in that situation without Jigsaw. It's kill, just indirect one. Otherwise, shoting someone with pistol will not consider a kill, since "i did not kill him, he just killed himself by running into bullet"
@@Michanicks better way to represent a indirect kill would be like "i am not related to the murder, i only gave the gun and bullets to the murderer" because yes, while you did not shoot, you gave the weapon that the murderer needed
Remember that guy you were friends with? Well, now his pain tolerance shall decide whether you live! *Enjoy your 30-second life lesson in picking friends!*
Well my friend wouldn’t die because I have a low pain tolerance. I just picked out my medical stitches on my 2 day only teeth extraction site because they annoyed me did the bottom ones about a day after with 0 pain medication. They would die because I am like 90 something pounds and can’t left anything over 30.
Fun fact: those lawnmowers would have floats in the bottom of the carburetors likely meaning they couldn't run upside down also running a 4 stroke upside down without a specialised oil lube system will starve the bottom end of oil causing overheating and eventually causing the engine to seize
7:14 it seems like the cables on the motors are exposed. he can simply tear them off and the motor would stop spinning. at 6:38 you can also see a junction box. Just yank that cable tube off and the machine has no power. pulling the key out wouldve still killed her unless she got immediate medical attention, which wasnt likely to happen.
On the triple saw trap, injuring your armpits is dangerous because of the major blood vessel located in it. Instead, I think one of the guys could have sat down to avoid the blade and save the woman.
They could have sat down or positioned the blade diagonally so when the cheating girl eventually got lowered it would either miss her entirely or barely cut her side (unless I saw this scene wrong) *pun intended*
@@Butdonutt No you had the same idea I had. With how loose the chains were and how the guys saws were fixed, they could have pulled it to one side with a guy crouched at an angle. Pretty much all three would be alive, with the two guys leaving the girl after finding out how she really feels about them.
@@grdbloodmoney The strap is around their waist by the belt loop, that is true. The saws are at a fixed point as well, but but the strap has more than enough slack to avoid the blade if it goes parallel to the floor. If they would have worked together, one could have positioned themselves where they are suspended by the bar at the bottom and the strap on their waist. Then the other one can push the blade further that direction and as long as the guy didn't flinch or breath deep, they would have all survived.
just realized that jigsaw is only mentioned to have taken the puzzle shape out of peoples back skin after like the first two people in the first movie, after that he’s literally just identified by the elaborate traps. john really just gave up on his aesthetic
Actually everyone continues to have jigsaw pieces taken out of their backs for every movie up until the 7th movie. In the 7th movie the police and FBI find out that the puzzle piece was taken out by a serrated knife instead of a scalpel. They then link the fact that the first trap Hoffman made for his ex girlfriend also had a puzzle piece taken out by a serrated knife rather than a scalpel. So, they then link those two murders to a copy cat killer because the way the puzzle pieces were taken out. It’s actually kinda genius.
I thought he normally took the puzzle piece out when they died. We haven't seen any of these victims after they're dead, so you never know, he could still be removing the pieces, it just isn't shown.
For the Car trap, you could in theory only save yourself by just not doing anything. The glue holding your back should give you enough resistance to not fly through the windshield. Although you'd probably either die of the shock, or Hoffman took out the airbags.
An easier way to beat the meat hook trap was the fact Bobby was wearing suit pants and a belt,so he could have hooked the hooks into his pants and pulled himself up that way. It’s a psychological trick Saw uses to trick the victims into believing Saw’s method is the only method. So everyone would survive if they stayed calm and thought carefully
Thats really the most stupid part of the movie, even through panic anybody could see all of the alternative methods. This part of the movie was very poorly designed with way too many cheats, esspecially at the point of the "Game" that it was at. He's at the end, wants to save his wife, he's seen many of his friends die. He wll want to think outside the box so that his wife doesn't die giving him MORE reason to see the cheats put into that particular trap of which had several very obvious cheats from putting your feet ON the hook to climbing the cabinit the TV is on, he knows the mission and its not like the wires are connected to the hooks that trigger when it touches flesh, no all he has to do is connect the plugs. Use those GIANT MUSCLES OF YOURS, he's clearly a pretty fit guy, so use those giant muscles to just CLIMB THE CHAIN, there is ZERO reason you have to actually put the hook IN YOUR CHEST. Not to mention anybody watching the movie says "dude just put your feet on the hook" or something, the cheats are so obvious and he doesn't do it anyway. This was the most stupid part of the movie and was very poorly designed.
@@Baxocj the most logical explanation ive seen other than "life or death situations are kinda difficult to think clearly in lol" is that the victims dont know whether they're being watched or not, & are worried they'll get killed automatically if they try to use any other method that isnt jigsaw's
Put the hook through the chain itself and make two loops. Put your arms through the loops and pull yourself up with the loops tucked under your armpits. The first thing that popped into my head when I saw that trap was, "oh, that's an easy one" 😄
Narrator: "The police had quite a few advantages since they come in with a lot of equipment. Unfortunately the one thing they are missing..." Me: "are their brains." Narrator: "...is a gas mask." Me: "Oh..."
I thought the survivor group was interesting... I would of watched the movie of them recounting their trap and how they won them. Did they compete? Did they follow all rules? How did they leave? I always wanted to know what happens AFTER the game is over. How do the police find them? I have so many questions and I hope they expand upon this in the new movies coming out.
The more I watch your videos on Saw the more I start to think that this was all intentional. I.e. the traps were never really meant purely as sadistic choice, but rather as an ability to overcome instinct and think rationally. One way to overpower your self-preservation instinct or whatever flaw put you there in the first place. But the other, nearly always, is to stop panicking and think. Which is possibly the whole point. This does not, of course, include the "unwinnable by design" traps. However, it's also known that Jigsaw has a strict "no cheating" rule for most traps, and more often than not puts in some failsafe that would trigger the trap prematurely if the subject tried to cheat. And that's not even taking into account that very few people have the mental fortitude to be absolutely cold-blooded when waking up after sedation in a situation like this.
I love these movies because of the elaborateness of the traps, but some of them really are laughably easy to thwart. In a lot of cases, they had environmental solutions. In others, their own clothing would have been enough (a gear with some shirt jammed into it will stop turning). However, I don't remember a single trap where people used items in the immediate area to get themselves out of trouble other than the one guy sticking the reverse beartrap between bars in a window to prevent it from opening.
I’m so glad someone pointed out the weird shade of pink, I feel they really cheaped out on some extent with some effects in this film 😂 compared to the previous SAW films anyway 👀
@Eftinoiu Eduard the thing is 3D films tend to lose their quality because they’re compensating for those wow 3D affects ✨ and it just doesn’t work out 50% of the time. I get that they can make for a good experience, especially in the cinema, but when it’s only going to be translated to dvd in the end then the producers need to think of a way to make it work with and without the 3D glasses. It makes it look cheap and it’s a shame because the SAW franchise I can safely say is one of my favourites 🤷♀️
What's even weirder is since the SAW films love to colour grade the crap out of their films, they could have sorted it for non 3D releases but chose to just tint everything another shade of green instead...
@@Cara090 Films to actually make 3-D: Magical worlds, Huge majestical worlds, Flying creatures and basically anything that has nice stuff to look at, Not being 3-d for the sake of being 3-d
+Lumo - That is because if the audience saw so much red blood in 3D, the janitors would all have the worst day of their lives cleaning up all the vomit, probably resulting in a number of Joker-like supervillains being created without any Batman to stop them. Just saying!
@@god3485 Exactly. Amanda and Hoffman even capitalized on the fact that people would struggle and survive. They made impossible traps that just spits on the victims if they try.
Holy shit you are so smart. At first when I saw this trap, I was thinking of standing on these hooks, but your idea is way better, because he won't need to worry about losing balance and falling.
Version 1.5: Why use the loops if you can use the whole belt? Version 3: take off the belt, put it on both hooks and either stand on it (like a ladder) - very easy to do, or use it to prevent the hooks from coming apart when he stands on them. How to beat 90% traps in every SAW movie: LOOK AROUND. And block the doors from closing.
I know the car trap is just kind of a throw away but omg it’s amazing. I love it so much. It’s overly violent for no reason and the run on effect and taking place so quickly, beautiful. Just bam, face explodes, dude ripped apart, crushed by cat and wall, skin ripped off and thrown out of car, wonderful execution.
The "beat" for the teeth code room doesn't account for the fact that the door couldve been set up to auto lock permanently if the wrong code was entered.
Honestly I’m super confused by this trap. If it’s etched in couldn’t he have just stuck his fingers in his mouth and felt the numbers?? How could they have been written below the gum line? You can’t just pull a tooth out right something on it and shove it back in. Would have been a hell of a lot easier for bobby to have pulled them out if Jigsaw had already done it once.
9:15 the chains if you cut them off they may make the spikes go to the platform that the woman is on really fast still killing her or the platform goes to the spikes either way
So much of these traps are based on counter weights or force in some way. There's definitely alot of loop holes that can be used but of course they dont(because it's a movie).
I only have one question: How in the world did the combination codes get put on Bobby's wisdom teeth without them being removed first? Like wouldnt he notice this teeth are...i dunno...loose during all this? Seems like if he required removal surgery first....then he wouldnt have been in too much pain to take his teeth back out again. Other than that your explanations for this movie are really practical.
