5 gallon bucket full of water. Submerge and weigh your disc under before you go to work. Get it out and throw a round after work. Repeat until desired flight is acheived. Halo Destroyer only took 2 days in this TN summer to beat into neutral, pushing late fade.
@@wolfgangweber9359 I'm not a scientist by any means. It was a trick an older fellow gave to me years ago. It softens the plastic as the water heats up throughout the day. Then throwing the disc helps break it in faster. Thats my general understanding. It works for me and my buddies. I normally use a glass/ceramic dinner plate to weigh it down. Hope that helps! Not sure the actual scientific process of what happens. Lol
I remember when I first started playing, people talking about having multiples of the same discs; backups, different weights, and stages of wear sounded like an excuse to just buy and have more discs to me. Now that I am really learning discs well and actually throwing controlled distances and shapes I find myself working towards achieving that in my own bag. Wraiths, leopard3s, buzzes, and envies in different stabilities for me. Finding discs you like and getting them where you like them really adds a whole other level of confidence to your game.
I like taking a round of one disc only. I think it's a great way to learn the new disc. Kinda new to the game so I haven't lost any disc without getting it back or worn one out completly. Thanks for the tip for when I do lose one 😊
The dryer thing works great! I put a new, beefy Neo Instinct in the warm dyer for 8 minutes and then bent it down a few times. I threw it this morning and it flies straight and long with some fade at the end.
Robbie - a method I use is the hot water method... Youll need a sauce pan big enough to hold a disc and a coffee cup. Fill sauce pan with water and put on stove and low heat. You want the hot enough to steam but not form bubbles or approach boiling. For electric stoves you can use between setting 1 and 2. Once water is hot enough - you can see steam rolling from the surface. Place the disc upside down in the water and leave disc in the water until its warm (probably same temp as the drier method). Remove disc and place right side up for more overstable, or upside down for understable on top of the coffee cup and let gravity do the bending and let cool. Keep repeating process until you achieve desired flight.
@@SHIZZLER__ Still confused... To make a disc more understable, wouldn't you place the disc right side up on the coffee cup so gravity would pull down on the nose of the disc?
When you find a mold you like, buy one in base plastic and one in premium. Play exclusively with the base plastic one until it beats in, which will happen pretty fast. Now you have two discs in the same mold with different characteristics, which is awesome. When the premium one eventually beats in, replace it with a new premium disc. Now you have a super beat in base plastic, a moderately beat in premium, and a fresh premium. Same mold, three different flights, and you spent the time to really learn the disc.
Instead of putting the disc in the dryer, submerge it in hot water until the plastic heats up. Then work the disc a little, let it cool and give it a try. Rinse and repeat until desired results are achieved. Also, a lot of discs come with a pretty noticeable flashing on the leading edge of the disc (the shape of the first 10% of an airfoil is the most critical for how that airfoil performs. Modern sailplanes are even coming with bug wipers to clean dead bugs off the leading edge because just bugs on the leading edge can cause a measurable decline in performance) the flashing can cause the disc to fly much more stable than it is designed, so make sure to carefully remove the flashing until the leading edge is smooth and the flashing ridge can no longer be felt.
I have fallen in love with discs like DX teebirds and dx/kc rocs bc they beat in great and the stability is perfect for filling most shots as they beat. I know it's more old school but man its helped my game a ton.
Nice dryer trick Robbie C. I have left a few discs in the hot car then played a two disc-two throw round...a gstar thunderbird that turns like a sidewinder, unexpected yet fortunate result. I did work the discs in a similar fashion to that demonstrated by Robbie C following the use of the dryer.
Play it again sports is my go to for used discs! I always try to buy used or a base plastic whenever trying a new disc before paying up for the better plastics.
The floundering Kung-Fu-esque (ala David Carradine) wood flute in the intro is a nice touch. I don't get the flight out of my discs because they are not beat in, it is because my mechanics are poor... thus my deep-dive into this (and other channels) to learn how to improve. Thanks for all you hard work in producing these vids, Robbie.
Hi Robbie, huge fan of your vids! I just tried the dryer method but with a twist, boiled some water and submerged a few of my most overstable drivers into the almost boiling water. Star destroyer, super overstable star wraith, glimmer opto ballista pro and an old weirdly overstable DD2. I really went nuts with the destroyer and the wraith and took it a bit easier on the ballista pro and the DD2. Ill come back with the results once I get a chance to try em out. Have a good one!
So it seemed to work better with the star-type plastic than with the lucid/opto/c-line clear plastics. My meathook Destroyer is now a moderately OS bomber and my barely flip to flat Wraith is now a reliable hyzer-flipper with tremendous glide. The glimmer-opto ballista pro is still a meathook, but the 2021 Albert Tamm ballistas are notorious for their overstability. The Lucid Defender I tried it on got slightly more flippy, but it wasnt by alot and the old c-line DD2 was about the same. Really satisfied with the results especially with the Destroyer and the Wraith as they are now usable even for my less than stellar arm-speed. Thanks for the great vids and keep banging them chains!
My first Star Destroyer is nicely beat in because I threw it on every shot possible. Backhand, sidearm, rollers, thumbers, tomahawks, etc.... It took some time but watching it's transformation was worth it.
The dryer method has been my go to for years. I just put it in an old t-shirt and tumble it for 20 mins on a no-heat setting my dryer has. A couple things... I have 2 washers and dryers (weird, I know) so I use the secondary one for this just in case. It makes a thunderous sound so I do it while the wife is out of the house. Every 20 minute tumble session counts as roughly a couple rounds on the course in my mind, so I'll do up to 10 or 15 sessions depending on the disc. My favorite thing about this method is that you have a brand new looking disc that flies like you've had it in the bag for 2 years. It's so nice!
@@patrickflanigan951 yeah, I've never used heat on it. I'm sure it prob works faster that way, but I never bothered trying. Just the disc hitting the walls in the dryer and tumbling around does plenty of work. I'm gonna try heat on something and see what I can get out of it.
Interesting last tip. Hadn’t heard about the dryer method. One pro for new players is that they get to experience what a beat in disc actually flies like. I guess you can also get that buying used discs, but how often to people actual sell discs that they have played enough to beat in to a good state? If someone is selling a disc at PIAS, it’s not one of their precious ones. Just a thought. Worth mentioning that beating in a disc, as I understand it, is more about pushing the the “nose” of the disc downward (which I think affects the effective parting line height. PLH is what effects the stability of a disc the most, supposedly). I’m guessing the dryer method works because bending the disc stretches the top of disc at the nose, forcing it to curl downward while it’s malleable from the heat.
I have luck buying used discs, a few are not broken in but I usually go for fairly old discs, it’s getting harder to find my faves at reasonable prices 🙂
I thought the understability of a beat in disc actually primarily comes from increased turbulence as a result of more imperfections in the surface of the disc? Like a golfball? Ive also heard explicidly that the dryermethod actually is to be avoided as it damages and warps the plastics.
I go with the just play and learn the discs. You play enough you start seeing your firebird flys just like your thunderbird. With a collection of different plastic and mold with stability for both side. I only buy overstable disc now and just work them in over time
Hi Robby C. I love your channel. My brother and I are starting a very low key DG channel. I am intrigued by the dryer technique you talked about in this video to get discs. 1) do you mind if we do a video on this? 2) do you have any recommendations or tips from doing it yourself? Thanks Robby
I have been told that throwing into a chain link fence with reasonable force for a while is a great way to "beat in" a disc and get the edges turned down without "chunking" it too bad 😁 Obviously not a perfect science so take is kinda easy, but it does work.
Best Legal Way!! STEP 1- heat the disc with hot water STEP 2- wrap a rubber mallet with the official PDGA rules booklet STEP 3- use the mallet that is wrapped with PDGA rules booklet and use it to hammer your disc into the shape you want. **This is totally legal, because you are LITERALLY using the PDGA rules to reshape your disc.** STEP 4- If anyone asks, you say you used the official PDGA rules booklet to beat in your discs. **feel free to thank me**
Left my 165 star roadrunner out in the sun for about an hour and then taco bent it over and over. Turned out being a very easy to throw hyzer flipper for me which is nice because I'm only 3 months into my disc golf adventure and its very satisfying to watch a disc take that beautiful looking flight. Im going to try the dryer method next when I inevitably Bangkok this roadrunner.
Finally jumped onboard, I think your videos leaves the viewer with more questions then they came with😜. Anyways, you had an app measuring and plotting the flightpaths of discs, can you remember the name of it? Thank you in advance and keep up the videos.
For removing warps or bends/minor tacos shapes in discs, I will put one disc directly under the faucet in the sink and have hot water heat up the disc. Then I kinda bend it some, let it cool on a flat surface. Helps for straighten discs out. May also help beat them in some?
Put it in boiling water for a couple of minutes, and some onions, a tiny bit of vinegar and some linseed oil. While still warm and oily, take it out and play one round with your wrong hand. A bottle of wine helps too.
Never forget that premium-level plastics never fly like the flight numbers or it's just rare. So beating them into the right flight numbers is sometimes the best thing you can do. Also, an all roller round is good and throwing straight into a dirt hill works.
2nd year and still new to the sport. I don't play the local course yet, because I feel like I still suck. But.... Year one I was really obsessed with chucking them far. Got to about 350 so far..... But this year...... I'm at a wooded park and doing easier throws between trees on imaginary lines. Learning the slower, more controlled throws is feeling great right now.
couldn't really see myself doing this but really good and knowledgeable video. How many "overworked" discs do you have? could make a fun video to watch. You and a bud pick 1 out and have to use it for a whole round lol. 1 tip...go ahead and putt with that 2nd shot or all 1 round and really try when doing it cause you can find some neat hacks sometimes when putting with mids/drivers.
Sometimes lots and lots of patience. I've had a Innova Beast in my bag for a little over ten years. For all that time it has flown as a 10/5/0/3, very well used, lots of trees, etc. I thought it was just a disc that didn't fly correctly. Just randomly this year, mid round mind you, the disc just switched to a 10/5/-2/2, don't remember if I hit a tree or not but it was like a light switch. Now I'm looking for a new stable to overstable ten speed disc to fill the new gap in my bag. The Beast is still in my bag, I love that disc, but it's job has changed.
Try a Pro plastic Thundy! I have one that's been in my bag for 2 years..(7months of that it spent in the bottom of a lake but still) It flies like I wanted my Beast too. Good runs of Pro are fairly durable but beat in in half the time of star and have the same glid.
Thanks for this, i have a Champion Leopard 3 that is more overstable than my Champion Mako. gonna try the dryer method out on it. was hoping to get something to go right since my wife took my DX Leopard as her main workhorse.
Robbie, I did the warm water trick and bent the discs. They fly straighter. Now I have no idea was happened to the texture though. They are slipperier than slippery. It's like the texture disappeared. Doesn't matter the disc. DIscraft Buzzz ESP, Innova TBird3 star and even the Discraft Zone Jawbreaker(which is really soft and grippy...not anymore. Quite slick) Have you ever had that happen?. I'm hoping its because its 32*F in northern NY and throwing them with get them dirty and regain the grip. I'm not going to heat up any more disc as they are slipping out of my hand. Any thoughts.
I'll try the dryer method. Wonder if just submerging in hot water would do the trick as well? I also like repeated driving into a chain link fence. Pro is it let's you work on your form. Takes a long time though and without seeing the flight is it really helping?
I think hot water could help. I flattened out my putter by suctioning it down to the kitchen bench after warming it a sink of hottish water. However I didn't notice a gain in stability so reversed the process and made it more domey again.
I usually like to use 2 drivers and 2 putters. One set for the F9 and the other for the B9. I rotate my choices each round. I've been trying to break in my north star and mentor from Discmania, and my soft link and sensei from Discmania.
Don't tell your frienemies that you dried your disc and bent it. PDGA 814.01b A disc which has been modified after production such that its original flight characteristics have been altered is illegal, excepting wear from usage during play and the moderate sanding of discs to smooth molding imperfections or scrapes. Discs excessively sanded, or painted with a material of detectable thickness, are illegal. Adding a device to make a disc easier to find (for example, a light, ribbon, or chalk dust) is allowed only when night or snow play has been announced by the Director.
Thanks for making me laugh brother. Been down the last few days and needed a good laugh. Much love. 👍🕳️⛳ Side note: completely accidental but I left my bag in a hot car all day. I thought I might have wrecked my discs but it just made my Destroyer much easier to throw. I was worried about my Leopard3's but their flight characteristics pretty much stayed the same. Maybe because they're GStar plastic? Not sure but either way, super happy accident 😂🤣😂🤣
BTW when I saw your title, I really thought you was going to do it "office space" style. By taking the disc out to a field then pulling out the bats and start beating the crap out of disc lol
I've been working on breaking mine in since I got it a few weeks ago. Super OS for a leo3. I think it has potential to beat into something really nice though, we'll see. I need to man up and play a couple one disc rounds with it.
The technique that I have used since 2014 is similar to your dryer method without a dryer, just the bending part. If you hold the disc face/stamp up, bend the rim of the disc over on itself every inch of the rim around the disc, do this 3x or more, to make it under stable, flip the disc over and repeat to make it stable, done. you can go back and forth like this and never throw the disc once. It works try it.
I’m still pretty new comparing to most of the people here I guess, only started to play in 2019. So I may not get the points here to beat in a disc. I really don’t want to deliberately beat in my discs, if I want something under stable , I would just get some thing under stable . The over stable discs are designed to be overstable . By the time you use it everyday, you will get familiar with it, know what kind of shots you can do with it. If the destroyer is too overstable, then get a shryke. That’s what I think anyway.
I had an extra SideWinder in DX Plastic. So, I decide to see what would happen if I Gently beat the dome out of one with a Hammer. Never had better Flex Shots then that disc now. I truly don't understand it but kind of want to do this more.
Hi! I stared frisbee golfing this year and really practicing in the last months, but for some reason my shoulder hurts, idk what I’m doing wrong because I’ve been trying different forms and I still don’t find a way that it doesn’t hurt. Do you have any way that it doesn’t hurt when I throw it? Please and Thank you for your great videos
From one newbie to another, what I'm hearing from much more experienced players is that if you are getting shoulder pain, you're only throwing with your arm and muscling the shot. I did the same thing my first few times out and went seeking help. One video that really helped me was on RU-vid, search for: Nate Sexton and Sarah Hokom Driving Clinic in Pittsburgh, PA - How to improve your form. The first 8 minutes of that video are gold (and the rest is also good). It shows correct reach back to avoid rounding, which can over torque your shoulder and cause pain. Once I understood how to initiate the throw with my lower body (starts at around 7:30 in that video) instead of my arm, I started feeling the "flow" to generate distance versus feeling like I was trying to do it all with my arm. I'm hoping more experienced players can correct me if I'm too far off-base here. All my best - hope you're continuing to improve and enjoy.
i like sandy parkinglott and trow disc back and forehand to beat in disc . often i do have new toy syndrome so i keep throwing new disc anyway nearly every hole.
Is it just me that finds this silly...? I understand that a beat up disc flies differently, but trying to recreate a lost beat-in disc by sticking a new one in the dryer is just silly... For one, good luck trying to recreate the same flight pattern, and secondly, there are hundreds of molds out there, I'm sure you can find one that's close enough. Anyway.. looking forward to your next video :)
Find a baseball field, stand in center field and aim for home plate. The dirt is tougher than grass, but not gonna chunk your disc. You also get some accuracy practice. Baseball fields without fences work rather well because you can throw from any distance
As a beginner disc golf player I would say the best way to beat in a disc for a beginner would be to play with the disc. Between rounds, practice work and field work they should beat in nicely and you get better as you go.
I guess I've never understood this. I have been playing for over 20 years, I've never intentionally beat in a disc. I do carry multiple levels of seasoned discs in my bag but I just buy discs that do what I want. I honestly prefer new discs because I know what they are going to do!
But then you only buy discs you know how they fly new? For example i have two champion leopard 3 and i have -1 turn discs that are far more understable then my -2 leopard 3s.
@@sunesnigel well I mean I’ll buy random discs and try them out, especially at tournaments if I place in the money but I don’t buy a disc to break it in. I might keep a beat disc in my bag but if you get used to throwing these is much more difficult to replace them if you loose them. But if you bag stock discs and like how they throw you can replace lost discs much easier. For me Discs are tools. I don’t get attached. No sentimental value for me. I don’t collect them or buy custom stamps or special runs. I want stock, easily replaceable discs in my bag
@@cglasford1 that makes a lot of sense. I'm a beginner and I'm sort of confused. Some brand seems to write the numbers of a broken in disc and some of a brand new disc. I'm happy with what i have though.
That's because you have been playing for 20 years so you have 20 years of disc when you have been playing for 5 months and all of your disc are new they are stable. My disc are almost a year old now and most fly like their numbers suggest but some just don't like champion roadrunner and beast. Don't buy them unless you want a thunderbird
Well, sir, I think I finally found one of your recommendations that I will likely never try. It just don’t seem right. But I still find 99.3% of your recommendations to be absolute gold. Not too shabby.
Omg I feel like an ass now that he changed that flexing dude on the birdie fam. He was just so strong and good it was quit intimidating lol also got old. Didn't mean to cause an issue robbie but as always thank you for being awesome and putting out great content.
@@pat2100 I wasn't? Lol I asked him to change the birdie video last video release and didn't think he would do it. Just apologized hoping he didn't take anyrhing negative from it. Chill please.
Hi there Robbie, Gene Senior Disc Golfer in San Marcos, CA Been watching your videos and from the get go have found them to extremely informative, the manner in which you cover the various aspects of our chosen favorite sport is definitely insightful and entertaining, keep them coming, gotta go now and beat in a few discs!!!
Don’t have time to beat in a disc? - try GStar plastic - those discs are “beat in” from the outset in my experience. Also great plastic for the winter months
And also for clarification purposes: Any discs intentionally thrown into trees, pavement, bending the disc while standing around, or any method which does not involve just using it while you play. It’s where you have to look at the heart of the rule not the wording. You’re not the first to comment this and I doubt you’ll be the last. But now at least if people read the comments they’ll have an answer! The pdga is asking you to not carve out chunks of a disc or modify the integrity of the disc. The dryer method does not alter the flight characteristics of a disc anymore than standard wear and tear. It simply does so at an accelerated rate. I appreciate everyone trying to hold the world accountable to the rules, but we also need to make sure that in policing we also see why the rules exist.
@@RobbieCDiscgolf if it feels better that you bent the rule instead of breaking it great. I think its a bit silly to assign motive to the pdga, Obviously it makes no difference to me and almost everybody. But some people that watch the video may not know that this is "technically" illegal. Its good content and useful. Jist feel like a disclaimer is warranted.
