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How To Bi Wire Your Speakers (Includes Sound Comparison)  

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Is bi-wiring legit or just another way of getting us to buy more cable? In this video I sound test single wired speakers against bi wired speakers to see whether there's a discernible difference.
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@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK 28 дней назад
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@jonboy9912
@jonboy9912 2 года назад
I have done the same thing and I heard nothing different. That said there are a lot of people who talk about sound like a sommelier talks about wine and I cant taste the difference between wines like they do! So my vanilla ears save me money on speaker wire but I still spend too much on wine!! Thanks for the video.
@chuckmaddison2924
@chuckmaddison2924 8 месяцев назад
A suggestion. Only biwire one speaker, leave other with single. Play a mono single. If there is no difference the sound will be identical and appear in the middle. If there is any difference, the sound will appear wide.
@joeorrego7247
@joeorrego7247 2 года назад
This was very helpful, simple and straight to the point. Thanks!
@marceuru
@marceuru 8 месяцев назад
Very good video and demonstration. Clear and concise explanation. Many thanks.
@Doggo_Norse
@Doggo_Norse 2 года назад
They both sounded the same to me, but the bi wired ones maybe sounded just a little bit more richer, but there really isn't a major difference
@adamv9652
@adamv9652 Год назад
asuming his microphone i able to capture difference, then audio codec used on youtube, and then your outpud device..
@kennethdarby6783
@kennethdarby6783 2 года назад
Tried your experiment with my Denon M41 and my Wharfdale 12.2 speakers and the bi/wiring certainly made a difference on my system, producing a fuller sound than using single wiring.
@JohnSmith-qi6co
@JohnSmith-qi6co Год назад
Only because you have less resistance with two sets of wire. Just use a single pair of heavier gauge wire instead. How in the world do you think your amp knows to send low frequencies on one set of wires and the high on the other?
@jfs70ss
@jfs70ss Год назад
@@JohnSmith-qi6co Maybe his Amplifier has A.I. (Artificial Intelligence)
@paulwhelan7123
@paulwhelan7123 7 месяцев назад
Good advice, anticipated result, thank you.
@thebadgerno.1872
@thebadgerno.1872 2 года назад
I couldn’t hear the difference from your trial…but looking through comments, it depends on specific audio equipment used???? Again..many thanks for your channel 👍🏻✌🏻🔊🎶🎶🎶🔊🙏🏻
@westietech6275
@westietech6275 2 года назад
I always thought bi-wiring required 2 sets of outputs on the amp? When I bi-wired my mission 774’s my Pioneer amp had 2 sets of outputs and I utilised both. I could hear a definite difference.
@CraftyZA
@CraftyZA 2 года назад
You are thinking about bi-amping.
@vancemccarthy2554
@vancemccarthy2554 2 года назад
2:12. The only change made here is that the impedance of the cable used is halved - from 0.2 ohm to 0.1 ohm. The point of bi-wiring is to use separate amps - one for each cabinet, ones with balance controls to tune the music played. Otherwise its just hype, because a cabinet speaker is set to produce a flat response. Bass and treble controls interfere with that response.
@jerrypartington3650
@jerrypartington3650 Год назад
No incorrect, when a speaker is bi-wired the cross-over has two separate earth routes, so the large currents drawn by the bass -mid unit do not travel the same route as the treble signal. In a single wired installation the bass signal will modulate i.e. distort the relatively tiny treble signal, causing the speaker to sound less clear and make the music harder to follow. Bi-amping a loudspeaker with identical amps that have same gain and quality level will result in a massive increase in clarity and musical enjoyment.
@ThomasCoryate
@ThomasCoryate 6 месяцев назад
I think what you're describing is bi-amping. Bi-wiring is pointless unless using different cables for woofer and tweeter.
@peterrobertbowers7639
@peterrobertbowers7639 2 года назад
i took the jumpers off, the terminals on my Wharfadale 9.1 speakers 🔊 and replaced them with solid copper wire ( electrical) about an inch. And I’m also using solid copper…. Short length wire for cables; as opposed to the stranded copper wire online from various companies. Speakers that are bi-wired just means that the tweeter and woofer are separated from thin cables inside the speakers themselves. So it’s done on the outside instead. Wednesday 12th October 2022. U.K. Southampton.
@arpeemac
@arpeemac 2 года назад
try a blindfold test and check if you hear any difference at all. actually, more wires would just mean more potential RF interference and EMI.
@TheatreOMatic
@TheatreOMatic Месяц назад
surely the bi wiring method you used is in effect just the same as if you kept the bridging pates in, you are just making the bridge at the amp end rather than the speaker end - so in my mind its just a wast of wire. The double connectors on the speaker are for bi amping ( using one amp for bass and separate for treble - or am I wrong ?
@5675492
@5675492 3 года назад
Bi-amping is probably where any discernible audio differences will show up . My 65 year old ears wouldn't realize it though lol .
@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK 3 года назад
Ha! Yeah high ends are gone! 😂
@borreltjuh83
@borreltjuh83 3 года назад
Bi amping is worth it, I tried it and definitely notice the difference. Bi wiring I didn't notice any difference
@ENGLISHISBEST
@ENGLISHISBEST 2 года назад
Thank god. I am only 64 then.
@virus.d12
@virus.d12 2 года назад
thanks for the explanation mate
@freedomofspeechtv9927
@freedomofspeechtv9927 8 дней назад
Yes you are right now deferred the same
@Sirphir
@Sirphir Год назад
Bi-wiring out of the same (amp-side) binding post set into (speaker-side) several binding posts has an effect based on cable (!) properties which affect different frequency ranges (one of several physics explanations is 'skin effect' - in short: resistance of the cable is frequency-dependent, the higher the frequency the more the current runs only on the outside of one wire core). I.e., bi-wiring only does something if you are indeed using different cables (e.g., different thickness of the cable cores, different material mix of cores, different thickness of total cable). Note: This has nothing to do with (expensive) cable voodoo, but rather say e.g., you want to use a thinner cable (or one with less cores) for the high frequencies' range - you could reach the effect to tone a bright speaker a bit down. Whether this will result in audible difference, is up to (your) test. But: bi-wiring allows you to separate the effect that cable properties have on the sound for the two different frequency ranges. Hence: it gives you an extra parameter to tweak sound. What you show in your video is consistent: if you use the same wire, you will have almost no effect. (Except: it might transmit 'more' power in total - but that would be reached also by using a thicker cable with more cores or twin cables into the same speaker binding post)
@robtorun
@robtorun Год назад
Nice explanation. The first person I've seen go from the speakers to the amp and explain properly what happens at the amp end. Likewise a good acknowledgement that your using 54 year old ears! It does matter!
@siriustraveler7083
@siriustraveler7083 2 года назад
I’m 56 and the bi-wiring sounded fuller , richer well to me
@rocketrhys2676
@rocketrhys2676 3 года назад
Bi wiring is usually for different spec cable, some cable seems to handle higher frequencies better than others etc. I don't really hear the difference myself but I suspect this is more on the higher end stuff. Like using a tubed amp for the highs with a conversational amp for the lows.
@syeanotherday9233
@syeanotherday9233 2 года назад
Exactly right 👏as you say bi amping/wiring is something that was created not for powering the highs/mids together and bass individually,it was as you said more of a sound difference in different cables as some cables are brighter or warmer as to match the highs/mids better to your amps charecteristics and others are beefier or thinner at bass sounds and so company's found that by using 2 separate sets of binding posts they could achieve a better sound stage with 2 different sets of cables. tbh I honestly thought that single cables gave a clearer sound stage In this test though.👍
@rocketrhys2676
@rocketrhys2676 2 года назад
@@miko1975guitar Poor baby dropped is dummy again 🤣
@Ro-zn6um
@Ro-zn6um Год назад
that's what I heared too. Bi wiring works if you usee cables designed for the right frequency range (if that is a thing). At the same time, cable design has undergone improvement to a point where they are "full range". So, that would neutralize bi-wiring. But in the end, I cannot get myself to realy believe in all of this. And my financial resources, neighbours and ageing ears won't allow personal testing.
@gotohoward
@gotohoward Год назад
It's hard to tell any difference, but of course it's through you tube and my speaker system. I really tried to hear something, but I think whatever I am hearing is my imagination, because I want there to be since it seems extra wire, and separate connections should make a difference.
@rhondastc9884
@rhondastc9884 Год назад
You can hear the upper med base and the separation is more distinct so I guess a clear sound overall with bi wiring. Thank you for the experiment and the explanation on how to do it, too!
@kennethashland6000
@kennethashland6000 2 года назад
I heard the differences and had my eye's closed. You really have to test it on a song that you listen to regularly to hear the difference in the spatial separation between the woofer and tweeter. It certainly changed , was it for the better?, that's subjective and up to your listening taste!
@jstpsgthru
@jstpsgthru Год назад
I hear a difference in my speakers, on my system. It's not dramatic, but the highs have just a little more presence. I find it pleasurable. Yamaha amp driving 6 ohm Snell bi-wired bookshelf speakers.
@martincrane4636
@martincrane4636 2 года назад
Thanks for the informative video - appreciated.
@ryanbrown4259
@ryanbrown4259 5 месяцев назад
I think to really get proper channel separation (my amp has 8 speaker posts) and I run A+B speaker output (basically as Low + high) and then wired at the speaker as you show. this way my Highs are coming from completely separate channel B on Amp. Lows on Channel A. What you've done is just separate the cables after the signal left the amp on same channel? I think this would achieve better results. Be sure to follow the wiring schematic for your amp as youre running 4 cables with 4 ends each (16 connections) and proper wiring matters.
@odargoo4298
@odargoo4298 3 года назад
the main purpose of bi-wiring, as I understand things, is to separate the base & mid/treble to produce a cleaner more accurate sound overall. I use to have a Technics set-up that was bi-wired & you Really could tell the difference, especially when playing something like Mike Oldfield's - Tubular Bells II for example... However from the look of your amp set-up in the video, all you managed to do was add an additional cable to each speaker, as your amp isn't Bi-wire capable. Hence the lack of any difference between the audio quality... I could be wrong about your amp? as I don't know it's specs? But the system I had, the amp was designed to accommodate a Bi-wired speaker setup that specifically separated the audio channels.
@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK 3 года назад
I actually did another video where I bi-amped the speakers and still didn't hear any discernable difference. I think it comes down to how good the crossover in the speaker is. It's the crossovers job to separate the bass, mid and treble. If it's a good crossover, it's unlikely make any difference when bi-wiring/amping.
@michaeljohnlopez9071
@michaeljohnlopez9071 Год назад
Agree.. i have panasonic sa xr-55 av reciever w bi-amp mode i test it many times and i really hear the difference about standard channel vs bi-amp mode . Bi amp mode makes more clear and accurate sound for my observation
@markcarrington8565
@markcarrington8565 Год назад
If you use four channels on your receiver, instead of two, you have effectively bi-amped the speakers. Bi-wiring is nothing more than adding a second set of wires and, in my experience, this is certainly a worthwhile upgrade.
@EsotericArctos
@EsotericArctos Год назад
If you have some nicely optimised power amps, then you can sometimes get a difference, but is it much more than adjusting the power going to the woofer over the power going to the mid/top? Is it any different to just adjusting the bass and treble in the end
@markcarrington8565
@markcarrington8565 Год назад
@@EsotericArctos bi-wiring uses two pairs of wires. It can be achieved with a single pair of binding posts on the power amp. It doesn’t require a pair of power amps as that would as the name suggests be bi-amping. The separation of the signal down the two pairs of wires is achieved by the crossover filter inside the speaker. This is totally counter intuitive; the assumption being that because the cables both connect to the same binding posts on the amp it must be the same signal. The reason it works is because the speakers are driven not by the voltage across the terminals but the current. The current is inversely proportional to the resistance and the crossover presents a resistive load which varies with frequency. On the bass driver, the inductor in the circuit presents a low equivalent resistance to low frequencies and as frequency rises the resistance also rises. The current does the opposite, hence the current in the bass circuit is only present at low frequencies and not present at higher frequencies above the crossover point. Effectively, this reduces crosstalk between the high current bass frequencies and the lower current mid/high frequencies. Some folks in some systems hear a difference, others do not. With bi-amping exactly the same thing happens, only now you are separating the signal all the way back to the pre-amp output. As the power supplies are now free to only power part of the frequency spectrum and the effects are magnified. More people hear the difference when bi-amping. Using different rated power amps for this is not advisable if you want to maintain a consistent balance in the sound throughout the frequency spectrum for different volume settings. The difference between doing this and using tone controls is that the effect of the tone control will be consistent as it is simply shaping of the frequency response irrespective of volume. Hope this helps. For those who remain unconvinced or are unwilling to shell out for double the length of speaker wire, I recommend at least replacing the nasty plate connectors on the back of most speakers with a very short length of your favourite speaker cable.
@alexeyschezel8641
@alexeyschezel8641 10 месяцев назад
thank you so much for this video ! I sure will try bi wiring as soon as I can. And i also liked the single wired sound more as well. but I think thats because of the banana plugs. They may degrade the sound.
@TwoHemiViewer
@TwoHemiViewer Год назад
Yes I noticed a difference, I have my Yamaha amp and all the goodies with my Audio Centron 150 watt 15 inch speakers by wired and it absolutely definitely makes and more full sound or another way to say it there is more fill in the sound yet remains crisp and sharp when needed and more distorted when listening to distortion sounds.
@paulbryden4006
@paulbryden4006 2 года назад
Sounded the same to me tbh. And as I have 5.1 set up be pointless. Great vid to the point as ever
@nicholaskrainc6837
@nicholaskrainc6837 10 месяцев назад
In my opinion, Bi wiring "works" because you have removed those terrible shorting links that are provided more or less on a "better than nothing" basis. I catagorise them as "packaging" Try keeping the speakers single wired but replacing the shorting links with good quality cable. You will get the same if not better improvement in sound quality.
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 2 месяца назад
Of course its worth it, your halving the cables impedance and separating the drivers at the amps output, on long lengths of cable of 12ft and over biwiring is the way to go, same principle as adding dropper wires to a model railway, without them the train will slow down after about 20feet actually bi amping is a BIG no no unless you have 2 identical amplifiers
@matthewpeterson3329
@matthewpeterson3329 Год назад
Personally, I thought the single wire playback gave the tweeters a bit more crisp. Granted, that is through ear buds on a lap top from a RU-vid video, so the sound quality is not spectacular anyway. But the single wire seemed to offer a little more separation from driver and tweeter. That's just my two cents. great video!
@Torulv
@Torulv Год назад
No difference what so ever and these are good speakers. I think this is the kind of A B example needed to make people understand they are mostly fooling themselves. If there is nothing to gain with this speaker, I would assume (maybe wrongly) the fidelity gains with others speakers would be so low its mostly not worth it. Thanks for the video
@johnaudio2024
@johnaudio2024 Год назад
Bi-wiring is for the use of separate amps, and bypass the internal crossover network. You need a active crossover behind the pre-amp, and 4 channels of amplification. Just adding more copper wiring to the chain, will not make things sound “better”
@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK Год назад
Using separate amps is 'bi-amping' and not bi-wiring. I agree that adding more cable to the chain will not improve the sound, which was made clear in the video. This is what the manufacturers of the speakers put in their manuals. I wanted to show that it was a bad way. I explain in more depth in this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_5FH2tKONQ4.html
@johnaudio2024
@johnaudio2024 Год назад
@@UTILITARIANTVUK for bi-amping we use bi-wiring ;-)
@panblue43
@panblue43 2 года назад
Hi! I like simple but good things, so after ~30 years of hi-fi collecting, listening and tryings I ended the difficoult system set ups. I mean that I stayed at a pure stereo system (marantz pm7005 with cd5005 and wh diamond 11.2 loudspeakers). They not need and not able to bi-wire, not need and not able loudness switch, I not use tone or sub. The sound is great without difficoults. Best regards.
@grantbassett2048
@grantbassett2048 2 года назад
Hi, My 90s kenwood ka3020se, has 2 sets of Speakers A&B, and I have Wharfdale 230s. I had 2 sets of QED cables to each Speaker using both A&B Speakers terminals to Bi-wire, it sounded a bit thin, so put the copper/ gold joining plates back on( like in the video) used 1 set of cables to each speaker ,just using Speakers (A) and sounded fuller, better 😊. But I will try 2 cables each side, just useing Speakers (A) like on the video. Cheers Grant 👍
@rnegoro1
@rnegoro1 6 месяцев назад
Dont use the bridging plates they give you and bridge them using hifi wires to get better quality. You dont need bi wiring. You just need to bridge the speakers with a better conductor.
@majicogarcia8417
@majicogarcia8417 Год назад
It actually sounded better with the single wire. 😂 The bass was stronger, unless maybe there was a slight volume difference.
@georgedomse
@georgedomse 3 года назад
I wonder if bi-wiring with an amp that has an A/B speaker output would make any difference (like the Marantz CR612). If not in the quality (since the same signal goes out from the same amp), but maybe in power output and perceived audio "push" at the same level?
@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK 3 года назад
I also tried bi amping but I couldn't hear a difference. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-s8unTc9uJns.html
@Veselchak9082
@Veselchak9082 2 года назад
Будь осторожен! В во время работы, в некоторых акустических системах импеданс падает до 2 Oms! Вы можете повредить свой усилитель.
@arunbabyaudio
@arunbabyaudio Год назад
If you see difference, try up with multiple drive using floor standers example wharfedale Pacific evo30
@CM-dw3gh
@CM-dw3gh 9 месяцев назад
Yes mate do a video on bi- amping please. 😊
@josealbinoramirez9637
@josealbinoramirez9637 Год назад
thankyou. something i have been wanting to do for awhile and comparison. Me. 61 year old guy, did not hear a difference. I also have Cambridge audio , axr100 and Wharfedale d320, cd axc35, single wired, awesome for me. thanks
@BB-zs9vh
@BB-zs9vh 26 дней назад
I wish he had explained what Bi Wire was supposed to do then I would have understood what I was listening out for.
@johnbuckenham2244
@johnbuckenham2244 2 года назад
Try changing the Connecting plates for wire does make a differance.
@Sasha0K
@Sasha0K 6 месяцев назад
There's no point in "bi-wiring" from physics point of view. But: bi-wiring creates a "ground loop" - a loop of two parallel wires connected at the ends forming a giant coil which is prone to picking up electromagnetic noise... So unless one is driving two speaker inputs from different sources (can be same amp but with different spectral drive - highs, lows, etc.) - there's no point in biwiring.
@DougMen1
@DougMen1 3 года назад
I couldn't hear any difference, and, when I've tried it with any of my speakers, the bi-wire might have sounded a little clearer, but it also sounded less cohesive, like the sound was coming from two sources, like I was hearing the woofer and tweeter separately, instead of a cohesive sound where they blended together perfectly, which I really didn't care for.
@ThomasCoryate
@ThomasCoryate 6 месяцев назад
But surely the point of bi-wiring is that you use different types of wire for woofer and tweeter...? Some wire, for example thicker gauge wire, transmits lower frequencies better, some wires transmit higher frequencies better. You use different wire types depending on what effect you want.
@eskicihangir833
@eskicihangir833 2 года назад
need major changes sir thanks for share !
@MrChalmers99
@MrChalmers99 2 года назад
Im 22 and I personally couldn't really tell the difference during the first part of the song between the two. In the second part though the Bi wiring had a little more punch in the bass frequencies compared to the single wiring. I've got a hifi system that I'm trying to set up with polk audio RM2000 monitor speakers, RM1000 Subwoofer, CS150 centre monitor and 2 JVC SP ES5 bookshelf speakers for surround sound. I'm trying it out with music production :)
@EggMCMUFFIN-e4l
@EggMCMUFFIN-e4l 7 месяцев назад
Honestly even from phone speakers i could here the difference. The mids and highs have their own definition, seperated from the bass
@dragdrag1507
@dragdrag1507 5 месяцев назад
No difference... unless you have elephant ears 😂
@peterrobertbowers7639
@peterrobertbowers7639 2 года назад
i would also just like to add… that, yes there is a vast improvement in sound quality when upgrading to solid copper wire. i certainly noticed that. I’m using a DVD player with a built in amp; so… basically I’m listening to music straight from the horse’s mouth; so to speak. It seems to me also, that.. the more watts input a speaker has; a much better realistic sound quality you will get. i recently bought a pair of Moukey speakers ( 3 way 55 watts input) but the Wharfadale 9.1 beats overall. Wednesday 12th October 2022 U.K. Southampton
@dane4890
@dane4890 7 месяцев назад
Well no notriceable change in my KRK studio setup ;)
@NortholtJohn3
@NortholtJohn3 Год назад
I don’t see the point in having this option since most AVRs do not have spare capacity for extra terminals.
@SuperEightOneEight
@SuperEightOneEight Год назад
i dont really hear any difference here..but definitely heard on mine which biwiring makes my tweeter's high freq sounds more defined and less noisy...i bi wire it via custom braided twist cables which in theorically helps cancel noises
@someoneelse101
@someoneelse101 2 года назад
I noticed a difference. I just got a Denon PMA600 and Wharfedale 220 speakers. I thought that it rounded the sound off nicely and elminated the treble heavy sound associated with standard wiring. It also cleaned up the sound of vinyl nicely
@randomguy3034
@randomguy3034 6 месяцев назад
Just listening Id say bi wiring makes trebble a tad more noticeable. And I do mean....a tad. So yeah I hear a difference but I wouldnt say its better or worse. Thanks for the video
@rickgreen7643
@rickgreen7643 2 года назад
I think a lot of the commentatators need to get out more
@VuQuang1973
@VuQuang1973 Год назад
I don’t see how bi-wiring would make any difference. Basically the sound comes from the same source just like using single set of cable. Why pay extra for the same result?
@colbyvillers4062
@colbyvillers4062 Год назад
I don't hear a difference. I mean all the bi-wiring is doing is replacing the copper jumpers from the speaker posts so why would it make a difference? Its still receiving the same signal from the receiver. I think bi-amping would be the only way to really see a difference.
@TheSlymcfly001
@TheSlymcfly001 Год назад
Bi-Wiring is not going to make any difference in sound quality. Your sending the same single to the same cross over network. The only difference would be the increase in wire size by doubling them which can reduce resistance in the wire if your using small gauge wire. Bi-AMPing is something completely different altogether. Having two amplifiers one dedicated to the highs and one dedicated to the mids/lows with the ability to adjust the volume level separately to balance out the sound. A tube amp for the highs and a solid state amp for the mids/lows. Magnepan 3.7s MG3As etc. have the option of having 3 amplifiers per speaker. One for the highs, one for the mids and one for the low end. With a good active crossover you can really make a big improvement in sound.
@jacktheladfrost
@jacktheladfrost 18 дней назад
I doubt anyone will hear the difference through a RU-vid video. If you're not convinced with your own set up then bi wire your speakers but leave the connecting wire unattached from one terminal. Then while playing something, tap the lose wire in time with your music to the terminal. I can hear the difference with my diamond 9.1 I've just done the same with the connecting plates. They do exactly the same. I'll stick with the plates so I don't loose them.
@mohammedalomari1998
@mohammedalomari1998 6 месяцев назад
Thanks I want to plug my banana cable to Fosi bt20 pro but i couldn't why maybe my banana cable is 4mm or what? Kind regards
@Vieningibukime
@Vieningibukime Год назад
😂 my friend. Bi-wiring is for 2 amps 1is hi 2is low. With 1 amp u do high pas filter. For other amp you do low pas filter. Then you can reach good result. Also this speaker isnt good for it, but if u take floor standing speakers which bi-wiring high/mid seperated from low/bass drivers, then u see difference. As you will feed 1 speaker with 2 seperate amps, adjusted in seperate frequencys.
@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK Год назад
What you are referring to is bi-amping and not bi-wiring. 👍
@Vieningibukime
@Vieningibukime Год назад
@@UTILITARIANTVUK its no point to bi-wiring from 1 single amplifier. By my understanding bi-wiring is option on speakers. Bi-amping is option on amplifiers. Its same as you have 2 bookshelf speakers, and active sub, and you controlling both frequencies separately. If you have only 1 stereo amp, so bi-wiring speakers just pointless
@chrisbow1776
@chrisbow1776 3 года назад
I could not tell a single bit of difference to be fair, but saying that, I am still going to Bi-wire my new Klipsch speakers since I have the option.
@markkennedy7957
@markkennedy7957 2 года назад
I bi-wired my Klipsch RM-600's and couldn't really tell a difference using my Yamaha A680 amp. It might have gotten a little louder, but not much.
@chrisbow1776
@chrisbow1776 2 года назад
@@markkennedy7957. I got a pair of 600m speakers last week to act as my surrounds. Will be Bi-wiring them too.
@tomatobrush3283
@tomatobrush3283 3 года назад
What I do run is run a small wire by the speaker from the one port to the other. Those plates were actually working as bi wire in the same way, which is why you probably heard no difference.
@thomasfitzgerald2595
@thomasfitzgerald2595 2 года назад
This is exactly what I was thinking.....this guy clearly has no idea what he is doing. Most higher end speakers that are bi-wire capable come with a jumper in them to make them bi-wired straight from the factory. The jumpers are made of metal hence it being a conductor of sound. This is exactly why he heard absolutely no different BECAUSE THERE WAS NONE!!! LOL. Besides he needs to buy a nice set of OCC Bi-Wired 2-4 banana cables. If he just would listen to the speakers with the wires connected to just the bottom (low) connection on the back of speaker (WITHOUT THE JUMPER IN) and then wire it how you have speaker wire going to both sets of positive and negative terminals on the back of speaker and tell me if you don't hear a difference then!!?? .......THATS BI-WIRING
@eduardbaciu8860
@eduardbaciu8860 2 года назад
@@thomasfitzgerald2595 Not really, just check the Wharfedale specs and you'll see that for a standard connection you need to keep the metal plates (the signal needs to go to both crossovers, otherwise you'll get only highs or lows) and for bi-wiring you need to remove it so the same signal goes to both crossovers again but using 2 different conductors this time as it supposedly reduces the intermodulation effects. Electrically bi-wiring creates a parallel connection with the same voltage through both wires however with different currents. These being said, if it makes and audible difference or not it depends on the listener. (further reading www.qacoustics.co.uk/blog/2016/06/08/bi-wiring-speakers-exploration-benefits/ )
@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK 2 года назад
I literally followed the guidelines in the Wharfedale manual exactly as it was laid out. So either you clearly do not know what you are talking about or Wharfedale has it wrong? PAGE 5 OF THE MANUAL HERE (I can write in caps too😃) www.wharfedale.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Diamond-200_manual-print0725-1.pdf
@derekdugger2321
@derekdugger2321 Год назад
@@thomasfitzgerald2595 the jumper is to send the signal from the single wire to the two separate crossovers, single wiring. Remove the jumper and run a single wire to the low end and a separate single wire to the high, that makes two sets if wires, bi-wire. Putting the jumper in does not bi-wire the speaker, it is getting information from one set of wires and sending that to the two separate crossovers. Running wire to each crossover separate preventing Intermodulation. One will have to study that on their own if you don't understand the different current speed rates as they enter and exit the different crossovers and speakers. Using a single wire with blocks is not bi-wiring, it is pushing all information to both crossovers through one cable, causing the signals to pass through at different times and causing a traffic jam of sorts. Bi wiring let's each crossover recieve and expell the signal at its pave, not get in the way as each one is putting out a different rate through one wire back to the amp.
@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK Год назад
My response ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_5FH2tKONQ4.html
@swllz
@swllz 2 года назад
bi-wiring effectively doubles your wire gauge, when you bi-wiring 14 gauge, it effectively makes into 11 gauge
@AustinW_1
@AustinW_1 2 года назад
What is the necessary power output from each individual connection for this to be affective?
@andywrollo2915
@andywrollo2915 2 года назад
Bi wiring makes a difference to me. Instead of the crossover separating a signal into two. It just separates high or low frequency. Plus less resistance from cables. I dont use cheap amp. Cables or speakers.
@ec6843
@ec6843 2 года назад
That's literally not how bi-wiring works.
@kamilkashaf2766
@kamilkashaf2766 Год назад
Lol. Crossover is still engaged with biwiring.
@alonsochavezmolina807
@alonsochavezmolina807 3 года назад
Great video, thanks! What wires were you using? What would you recommend fo a Wharfedale 85th anniversary and an integrated amp? Cheers...
@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK 3 года назад
I'm just using Amazon Basics. Really good for the price if your cable requirement is under 5 metres. amzn.to/35GqO0J
@Ed.T-p1b
@Ed.T-p1b 9 месяцев назад
Would it make more difference if the amplifier has A and B outputs for biwiring, or using 2 amplifiers at all for the biwirings?
@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK 9 месяцев назад
Although some people suggest otherwise, using A/B outputs wouldn't make a difference. Using two amplifiers (Bi-Amping) is very different from Bi-Wiring and also more costly but you may hear a difference?
@kirstymills7043
@kirstymills7043 2 года назад
I bi wired wharfedale diamond 220 s and Rotel RA810 so not a million miles away from your setup. I noticed a separation from high and low and it definitely didn’t sound as congested but the big thing is music I’ve grown up with and know very well had noises and tune I had never heard before. Don’t expect massive changes in volume , bass and treble like I was expecting. Let the system settle in for a bit , play some of your favourite tunes and Im sure you will notice clarity that was never there before. Hope this helps a wee bit
@giottodiotto1
@giottodiotto1 Год назад
Bi- wiring as you demonstrated is essential only feeding a thicker cable to the speaker, so not really useful and audible,the REAL purpose and audible benefit can come from BI- AMPING....by means of two separed amps,and through a crosover bevore these amps, so one amp let's say a 20 watt feeds only high tones to the speaker and another,let's say 60 watt feeds the lower tones to the mid- bass speaker, this can give a better sound because less stress on your build in crossover and speakers so effective more cleaner power to you units, so bi- wiring not so usefull, bi-AMPING more usefull I've you gotta the crossover frequencies sorted right and the amps ( money) to do that, at home for most people not really importend, in a disco with loud volumes it's more or less the norm, think of a " basebin" pumping out 120 db all nightlong. At home you would be better of investing in a nice active subwoofer with build in amp and two way crossover.
@hoz3iibeatz40
@hoz3iibeatz40 8 месяцев назад
Bi wiring has more sharpness/airy and air to it whereas to none BI is dry and dull
@LC-ur8gv
@LC-ur8gv Год назад
Is bi-amping intended only for passive speakers then? what would be the point to bi-amp active speakers otherwise? A noob question but still does my head in.
@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK Год назад
I'm not sure that you can bi-amp an active speaker as an active speaker has its own amp. There may be some out there but it's rare.
@LC-ur8gv
@LC-ur8gv Год назад
@@UTILITARIANTVUK that's what i thought, thanks for clarifying
@stevenvox6549
@stevenvox6549 Год назад
I think whatever difference can be because when you bi wire, you are using more wire. It might help with long connections.
@justaguy4real
@justaguy4real 2 года назад
You prob don't have enough power or didn't do it right, or wrong specs in general. I have Yamaha NS555 tower speakers with a pretty old Yamaha a/v and I run biwired via speakers A&B. 1 pair goes to A, other pair to B. If I turn off A, only bass plays, turn off B, only highs play. So it seems more power to the tower (haa that rhymes) and louder when both in. Same length heavy gauge weird 6'for all 4 wires. Wonder what would happen if I left them both with jumpers, more power/volume????
@DeN-j9l
@DeN-j9l 11 месяцев назад
Hi, what speakers are these? They sound good, and what receiver?
@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK 11 месяцев назад
Wharfedale Diamond 12.1 speakers and Cambridge audio A1 mark 1 amp.
@DeN-j9l
@DeN-j9l 11 месяцев назад
@@UTILITARIANTVUK Thank you. I had to play both samples many times to find the difference, biwired's volume is slightly lower than the other, if you are absolutely sure volume was kept exactly same at amp level for both sound samples the difference with biwired is lowered volume with a pinch of added subtlety
@jye.acoustic
@jye.acoustic 2 года назад
In this demo the copper strips on the speakers were doing the same job as those wires were doing. As thats not a bi enabled amp. You need 4 outputs on the amp. Not 2. 👍🏼
@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK 2 года назад
Wharfedale actually recommends it in the manual the way I did it. Although I have tried it with a/b speaker outputs here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-h-H6PW452PE.html
@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK 2 года назад
@HyperTech Electronics Wharfedale must be stupid too. That's exactly how it's recommended in the speakers manual. Also, try taking your caps lock off. 😄
@AndyfromSurrey
@AndyfromSurrey Год назад
That is bi-amping. This video is about bi-wiring 😂
@arvinmasangkay8341
@arvinmasangkay8341 2 года назад
Same nothing change
@kennethdarby6783
@kennethdarby6783 2 года назад
The bi wiring to me produced a fuller sound as opposed to the single wiring which sounded tinny but being over 50 my hearing could be suspect too. Thoroughly enjoyed your video though, so thank you.
@benfennell6842
@benfennell6842 2 года назад
I can placebo myself into hearing it but I dont think it's there. If it's that impercievably minimal it's pointless to me.
@stephenr6427
@stephenr6427 Год назад
you need a 4 channel amp to bi wire properly
@andrewarthurmatthews6685
@andrewarthurmatthews6685 5 месяцев назад
It’s called ‘ positive and negative’ !
@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK 5 месяцев назад
I think you need to focus more on the positive?
@peterwikvist2433
@peterwikvist2433 3 месяца назад
I am listening through headphones, but can not hear any difference.
@roninnovastar1321
@roninnovastar1321 2 года назад
Didnt really hear difference.
@richardsonaliya9746
@richardsonaliya9746 Год назад
You have to use bi amp then it will make difference
@EsotericArctos
@EsotericArctos Год назад
I don't see the point of bi-wiring when running from the same amp. It's no different to just adding a bit thicker cable. The main use would be if you have a bi-amp setup and have the mid/rop amplified separately to the bass/ I could hear absolutely no difference, which I expected anyway on RU-vid, but I have also done the experiment in real life.
@stephen579
@stephen579 Год назад
I also agree with your comments, maybe his answer would be to purchase better cables.
@rickgreen7643
@rickgreen7643 2 года назад
how can anyone tell, listening to it on a phone
@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK 2 года назад
The sensible ones use headphones. 😃
@3nigmatiq1
@3nigmatiq1 2 года назад
Really interesting! I've never thought biwiring had any merit, but I'm certain I heard a difference between your 2 samples... I kept my eyes closed, listened through decent headphones with an external dac, and opened my eyes when I heard a difference; when it sounded "fuller" I opened my eyes to see "Biwired", and when I next opened my eyes because I felt it sounded slightly "thinner", it was single wired. In a second listen I also thought I heard a SLIGHT difference in the treble presentation. 🤷🏽‍♂️ I'm no expert and certainly not saying I'm sold on this school of thought, but thank you for giving me reason to consider it.
@shibanuma
@shibanuma Год назад
Only sense with Bi-wiring is by using specific high and low freq wiring
@dergknealgg9in
@dergknealgg9in Год назад
Good volume sound good got some self thank derek
@actionman1276
@actionman1276 9 месяцев назад
even through my mobile speakers I was able to hear that the highs were pressured with single wiring. How could you not be able to hear it by yourself when testing?
@LB-rq2ds
@LB-rq2ds 2 года назад
Biwirring is only made so they can sell more speaker cable
@thomasfitzgerald2595
@thomasfitzgerald2595 2 года назад
Your kidding right
@garryherd3042
@garryherd3042 2 года назад
Lol
@catatonicgalaxy1471
@catatonicgalaxy1471 4 месяца назад
It's not worth biwiring little bookshelf speakers
@andrewarthurmatthews6685
@andrewarthurmatthews6685 5 месяцев назад
I doubt there is anyone younger than you watching this video!
@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK 5 месяцев назад
35-44 years 7%, 45-54 years 27%. (I'm 57) 😁
@SleekBlack82
@SleekBlack82 2 года назад
I used headphones to listen and nope, my ears didn't pick up any difference.
@thomasfitzgerald2595
@thomasfitzgerald2595 2 года назад
Because there was none
@jetsky226
@jetsky226 2 года назад
No sound difference!
@jimmycake7143
@jimmycake7143 2 года назад
amp needs to have another set of outputs
@UTILITARIANTVUK
@UTILITARIANTVUK Год назад
My response ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_5FH2tKONQ4.html
@AndyfromSurrey
@AndyfromSurrey Год назад
Not for Bi-wiring! You are thinking bi-amping
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