How-To: Bidding Framing Projects (Tips for Mark-Up + Bid Price) 

MattBangsWood what about taxes? Do you add that on? Or does that come out of your base price?

Max takeoffs? Is that what you said?

You need to have a tutorial on the business aspect of framing and how to video! This video was excellent 👍

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gotta have a buffer zone built into bids your so right on this

Also just markup for handling. Gonna have to move it all regardless.

Glad that's not just here.. If the SF for the garage isn't counted, why are we framing it? lol

Would you be able to go into a little more detail on this? I'm a new contractor and trying to figure out how to "CYA" Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Just being honest! 😂 Glad someone found humor in it.

Builder probably won't be willing to give you much time before you bid. But Matt is right about checking your bid before signing and if you win the bid the builder may be very willing to go over everything with you before you sign. Just understand he will not want to hear anything about a higher bid, but you might be able do some no- cost trades.

RHEC 951 i agree haha

J.O.C 🤑💪

Drives me crazy. Got 2 bids for my project in LA, one was for $65,000 the other was $130,000. Same scope, foundation and framing. And yet this job should be closer to the $45,000 mark.

@@edtaslak1398 I’ve found that people THINK they should be able to get a house done for way cheaper than what it actually is, for the last year lumber prices have skyrocketed, workers are extremely hard to find, while work is coming and needed to be done way to fast. The cheap price isn’t always the best price check how booked your contractor is and word of mouth reviews. The golden rule is if your contractor doesn’t have a wait time in spring, they are not good lol

@@lotus_8773 That's a good tip. I got 2 quotes one was double the other. How do I figure out how much I should actually pay?

T A they don’t pay taxes and get fake insurance, here in Tennessee 3 to 3.50 that’s pathetic

Or Texas, 2.80 per SQ ft.

@@hugootero7915 is that what thier paying per sq right now? I was framing in Corpus/ Rockport and getting between 3.50- 5.00 a square. And that was almost 20 years ago.

Here in fort Worth and Dallas, I had some builders tried to pay me that per sqft.i don't know how people can charge that much per SQ ft and pay their employees.

We gotta stop the $3.50 crap. The ONLY people getting $3.50 are mega builder like DR Horton, Lennar, etc. You can afford to make $300-500 profit each home when you are building 15-20 homes each month for them, in a 300 lot subdivision ( Georgia ). It irritates me when small builders or homeowners expect a rate under $4.00. I am charging around $6.00 down here in ATL.

Definitely plan on it! Thank you.

Can't tell you how much I deal with that 🤦‍♂️

@DAPPR 323 they one specify a roof shingles just say asphalt shingles on the print. So one guy bids a 50 year shingle and another bids a 15 year shingle big difference in price

Of course! Thanks for watching.

Oh gosh, never friends nor family..

@@MattBangsWood Now you tell me, LOL :)

It's funny how 'friends' will always pay strangers full retail price and more. Not all my experiences have been bad but there's definitely been a few. Some people are just crabs in the bucket

@@koveebryant1526 So True, so true, :)

they sure do know what they're doing out there, do you see his Pap walking on those trusses without fall protection and banging on them

I appreciate that. We don't have it all together, we're far from perfect. We do try to have some fun while building though! Thanks for the support.

Hello , I been working in the metal framing ,drywall, door frames,acoustic ceiling etc , for 20 years for different companies and I'm ready to start working for my own is there any way you can teach me I'm in Houston tx

I willing to pay you

@@arturohuerta6411 Last thing is come up with a strategy/market. You do not want to be the jack of all trades with your business. For example I ONLY do NEW construction framing, decks, doors & windows. Why ? If I have to file a lien for non-payment, then the client has to resolve that before they can sell the home or convert the construction loan to a mortgage. The lien will show up during title search in closings. On renovations, or framing on existing homes if the client never plans to sell or refinance the home you are Screwed, unless you go to court. I use my personal savings to pay payroll so I have to mitigate risks as much as possible. Large builders will not pay you weekly or ahead of time for payroll. It has to come out of your pockets whether via loan, capital, credit cards. You will have to wait up to 30-45 days to get paid After finishing your job with big players like DR, Lennar etc.

Of course. I want to stay on track with educational / business related, it's a fun topic!

Thank you!

Sean cost of living is far cheaper than California.

@@LoneWolfRanging I am aware

That is why we don't frame here, make more remodeling than framing.

You’re a rare one! Can’t tell you how many times we’ve been told garages aren’t included. I like to talk numbers when it comes to projects, let’s put it all on the table and figure out where we stand.. Works best that way for everyone!

Here in Missouri we fight the same garage battle. I just raise my square ft price when someone tries this on me to offset the loss. Currently I am not having this issue but have faced it many times.

@@MattBangsWood Do you mean you ask whats his budget sort of thing?

De donde trabajas compa.

rez aka en el estado de Washington y tu?

Saul Moreno en que parte Primo?

so 2% of the over all price is what you charge for each changeorder? Im figuring out pricing for when i start my business. would charging by the hr be another good way to do it?

Think of it this way.. Client > General Contractor (Builder) > Subcontractors. Client finds a general contractor to take on the build, builder finds subcontractors to complete the work. Most generals are what we call "Paper Contractors" - they don't work, they charge their 20% on top of all subcontractors and manage the projects as they go.

Everyone can build, most struggle with the behind the scenes work. Appreciate the feedback! Wasn't sure what would happen with this video.. :)

100% true.. Bidding is ridiculous nowadays. 3% clause on material.. If material prices rise over 3% from the time contract is signed, cost goes to H/O..

Most we've gotten is right around $20.00/ft USD. Garages and Porches BS is ridiculous!

They should pay for nail. Nail is materials stays in house

Tract home framing? It's seen typically when builder knows the exact material take-off. Surprised nails aren't covered as well though, should be an average per home.

I never herd of something like that. A contractor would have to have a of screw loose to even entertain that idea !

nick beam if you know it going into the job and include in your bid what’s the problem with providing fasteners? They have a habit of walking off the site. If the sub can bring them and keep them in their truck or gang box what’s the difference?

@@ELIRAXPRT Well i have to say if you give them builders a foot they will take a mile. But hey if you truly feel that way then there should be know reason not to build the deck or garage for free ether !!!

Same here in Alabama 3.50 for a base slab 5+ for subfloors homes. Been this price since the 90s I made great money back then. Labor has doubled and cost of living is more. Prices is starting to go up with the lack of framing crews out there. Most framers here charge for all s.f. under roof, garage, Porches

How much do you guys per hour. As carpenters

Jaime Alvarado it totally depends on experience just a laborer 10-15 an experienced carpenter 20+

@@661FORD cali...25 low-75 fast guy

@@zacheagle3018 payroll ad on...250 per 1000 on bid

Where are u located in Michigan?because I'm down by Detroit and we were get 7-10 sq.ft sometime even higher

@@SkettenZEfanforever West Side of the state. I get 7-10 a sqft for coustom houses. My production price just went up also to 5 a sqft.

@@SkettenZEfanforever Also the production house we are build are simple boxes for the most part 8-10 day and they are done

Yeah dude for sure I guess thats about right tho I mean I just landed a 1 story 2800 sq. Ft. ranch custom home for 10 a square foot but honestly its worth more than that I got beat up on the price cut of all this covid

@@SkettenZEfanforever yeah I have foundations waiting and two subfloors covered up. Just waiting to get back at it.

I'm into building, I dont pay too much attention to RU-vid like that.

I'll make it happen! Been wanting to.

I curious also! Matt?

That’s going to vary by region, or even by city if you are in an urban environment.

$1 Billion/sq ft around Las Angeles

I’m about $36 sqft with all material included.

The thought is that there aren’t any interior partitions, normally no windows and a giant opening.. could argue the cost should be less? I’d rather have a good framer... you get what you pay for and a good framer makes life easier for all my trades. I see where the general is coming from, I’m a general... but that’s just being cheap.