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How to break down motocross corners and conquer them with ease: 90 degree corner and double apex 

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@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 2 дня назад
i find with tight corners and berms this all happens pretty naturally, but i don't know what to do with big, large radius 180 corners with a long smooth rut. there seems to be no apex. i guess we just go faster to make the corner feel shorter or what?
@180mxtraining7
@180mxtraining7 2 дня назад
@@yukonjon5964 If there is no hook or obvious apex, it's going to be where the corner changes direction. You may not be carrying enough roll speed to get you far enough through the corner. You may be braking too hard and killing momentum to get you there. There are also corners that your roll speed may turn into very light throttle input, because the corner is just too long or big. I am working on a video of a multi terrain, long left handed corner. It goes from a hard pack 90 degree corner to a deep 180 rut and a 90ish degree hard pack exit, almost making a 360. I'll have that out in a day or so
@johnbarnhart7174
@johnbarnhart7174 10 дней назад
Is the Apex exactly the point of maximum bike lean angle ? The tightest radius part of turn ?
@180mxtraining7
@180mxtraining7 10 дней назад
@@johnbarnhart7174 yes, the point of most lean, after that point, you start to decrease your lean and exit the corner. In motocross it's typically the point you make the most aggressive direction change and because it's motocross and on dirt, usually the most aggressive hook in the corner.
@johnbarnhart7174
@johnbarnhart7174 10 дней назад
@@180mxtraining7 Thank you for clarifying !!!
@99Yeti
@99Yeti 7 дней назад
Is it the same thing for flat turns? I find when I go on a flat turn and I use the front break the front break it immediately slides out I run a lower pressure in it I feel like it shouldn’t effect it that much should I slide up more or just not use front break
@180mxtraining7
@180mxtraining7 7 дней назад
@@99Yeti I find with flat corners, once you lean beyond that 20 percent, just let go of both brakes, trailing with the front may work, but chances are it tucks on you. The bikes is most effective at turning when you're in that roll zone and off the brakes. It's a very similar concept to moto gp (street bike racing) and in a flat corner that is where moto gp is most closely going to relate. Brake, off brakes, turn in and roll, accelerate out.
@JimG1964
@JimG1964 11 дней назад
My bike has quite a bit of engine braking so it doesn't really roll well or do I just have to charge a lot harder to overcome the engine braking? Envious of my sons 2 stroke because he can coast a whole corner.
@180mxtraining7
@180mxtraining7 11 дней назад
@@JimG1964 you are probably over braking and going to slow in the roll zone. Try to brake less and think about keeping the wheels rolling. I had a hard time when trying to learn this and I was way over braking, so I had to gas it in the roll zone and my corners were horrible. A good drill is put a cone at the apex, and try to just roll to it, without worrying about the exit. Also, make it a point to get your foot off the rear brake before you turn in and start your roll zone. That foot on the rear brake is what causes 99.9 percent of stalls in the corner
@JimG1964
@JimG1964 6 дней назад
@@180mxtraining7 Thanks! I really like that idea. I will try putting cones out in some actual corners that I practice on and just work on rolling to the cones and not about the exits right away. That way I can develop the pattern of how to roll in. I also never thought about how poor my throttle control is too. It makes sense because those little throttle corrections are messing up my cornering ruts.
@rickvandyk31
@rickvandyk31 11 дней назад
Same principle for flat corners??
@180mxtraining7
@180mxtraining7 11 дней назад
@@rickvandyk31 yep, let it roll and turn.
@180mxtraining7
@180mxtraining7 11 дней назад
You can rear end steer if the corner allows, but that is really hard to do consistently. A line will start to form up. Hard pack corners, same concept still applys
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