Hey Adam I have a pair of whites and eventime they have babies one comes out tiger and the other chick always comes out red or yellows tailed that as they mature after 3 molts they start getting more red or yellow does that mean there grandparents Cary that color also my tiger grizzles are born completely white and get the complete tiger color by 2nd molt
I am a person who raises lace pigeons in Korea.I'm always interested in your project.I'm also going to breed Tiger Grizzles this time. I support your project.Thank you for translating into Korean. It's very helpful. I'll tell you again next time.
Yes, he's been very popular since I've started including him in videos! He's actually the father of the brown hen you can see in some of my other recent videos.
One of these visits me every day and I give it seed. The other day it brought with it what looked like a baby. Was mostly black. Why is there only one? Is it an escaped domestic pegion? Are they not common in the wild? I can't find much information. I love this bird so much. I'm in Melb BTW.
I have racing blues and light checker and I need different colors from non racing pigeons in my racing loft is it possible and how do I achieve that and thank you so much for so informative videos I look up to you.
Thanks Adam's, Finally, the long awaited arrived. So we dont pair two black tigers to breed tigers, that is why my two black tigers is breeding whiter tigers, so if I take that whiter tiger with a black it will breed black tigers again.
Is there's any way to make a classic grizzle? I only have black and white colors of Barb and the problem is, we dont have yet a barb with a classic grizzle color here in the philipines.
No. Your only option is to find a similar grizzle and cross it in. You can use the same instructions I wrote here, but swap Indigo for grizzle, and Lahore for Barb. www.pigeongenetics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=847#p847
Hi Adam. How do you breed a black pigeon with white flights with no other white markings? It is as simple as breeding a black pigeon to a pigeon with pied gene? like a blue bar with a white flights?
i had a blue bar and a highflyer pair ... they produced 2 babies a black and a silver+black... on molting one became full black with white on head and the 2nd became a grizzle but a bit more white then black...
Hi Adam love your videos. Really interesting topics. I just got my first tiger grizzle today. 5 weeks old and still completely black hoping the white comes in after the moult
I am a subscriber watching in Korea. I want to know more about Tiger Grizzle. If you like it, please do a more detailed video. I will always support you.
Sounds pretty exciting and not too difficult!😀 What's the English name for the pigeon breed that the pigeon to the left of the tiger grizzle in your cell represents? If I'm correct, in Polish we call the breed "karier" - sounds similar to "carrier"... Is this coinsidence?☺
He is actually a racing homer! He does have the big wattle typical of a Carrier or Dragoon, but that's fairly normal for his family actually. He is from a very old bloodline, most modern racers don't grow wattles that big anymore.
I ended up getting a black tiger grizzle by accident when a mutt with a stork pattern grizzle racer mother mated with a black Nun pigeon. The “stork” (homozygous) grizzle was apparently hiding the tiger grizzle in the almost pure-white mother. Now I know how that guy got such a weird pattern, and why he doesn’t look anything like his Nun mother. Though our Tiger grizzle was pretty spotty as a nestling; he was about 40% black and 60% white. He has gained white as he’s grown and is down to about 15% black. Yes I’m sure there’s pied in there
Hi I have a male tiger grizzly like the hen in ur video the hen is a tiger grizzly mostly white and they are producing mostly white how can I get them black instead of all white
Black Tigers are very Beautiful Birds.l used to have pigeons but lm 65 now and don't have the means. Totally love pigeons but now there's so many different kinds.Pigeons have been around longer than we have l think
Brother i have one male i put him with 2 hens. And after 5 attempts he never fill the eggs the tiger grizzle only is 2 years old what can i do to make him fill the eggs??
@@AdamArcherPigeons I watched your colour, patter and modifiers video but was still confused. I have a male tiger grizzle should I breed it with a black hen to keep the tiger grizzle color going?
Very interesting, I never heard of tiger grizzle. I bred 100s of grizzled but no tigers that I know of. I bred a black where all the babies were black no matter what colour. The factor dominated over every other pattern. I even had pure whites but you never know what you get from them. From what I heard there is no white gene. Question after a long breeding season I saw some very odd colours come out of birds the only bred checkers and reds. Even sometimes crests would come out. Why would this be?
Tiger grizzle is a different gene to the regular and more common classic grizzle. Black is caused by a gene called "spread", and as you've learned it is dominant. Your bird must have had two copies of the black gene for all of its young to be black. There are actually a number of white genes, and that it the problem - people mix them so you never know what you'll get when combining different white genes, and you don't know what genetics the white is covering over too. Crest, and quite a lot of the rarer colours are recessive traits. They will pop up when you pair two birds who carry the hidden genes together.
@@AdamArcherPigeons thanks for your reply, the reason I read some where for the rare colour out of a pair that only bred checkers and reds checks is the dominant genes get "tired" after being bred hard. I only saw it once .
I have been waiting for this video for a long time. Thank you for sharing it. Please do an update once they are paired together and produce babies. I am going to take my tiger grizzle cock and put him with a black hen and see what they produce. Fingers crossed I will get more tiger grizzles.
If a pigeon is not visually a tiger, then he does not have the gene, so cannot pass it on. If a bird has the tiger gene, he will visually be a tiger (barring any epistasis, but it's unlikely you'll run into those problems in a tiger breeding project).
