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How to Buy a Pocket Watch 101 - By Ashton-Blakey Vintage Watches 

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Learn antique Pocket Watch basics in 10 minutes. Brief history, different types, and how to buy. From Railroads to Gold and decorative watches. Incl Elgin, Waltham, Military or other types.
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@dwarfsbaneironfist2527
@dwarfsbaneironfist2527 4 года назад
I am going to add a couple of things, there are other comments about the inaccuracies in this video, I will add some buying advice for people buying their first pocket watch. Tip one, do not buy a low grade 7j movement like the Elgin watch he demonstrates in this video, here in the UK it costs more to service the watch than its value, buy a minimum of 15j, it is a better quality movement and there are millions of pocket watches out there. Tip two, never buy a pocket watch that has a damaged dial, chips, hairlines, you cannot get new replacement dials. Avoid Omega, masonic, suffragette, Disney dials etc, they are constantly faked. Tip three, never buy a watch with a damaged case, it is not as easy as people think to put the movement in a donor case and will cost more than the watch is worth. Tip four, do not be afraid of buying watches that do not work, quite often they just need a service or a new spring, look at the case for any damage, if the case is in good condition the movement clean and the dial undamaged then you probably have a good watch. Obviously, this is a risk that something may be broken and may be expensive to repair. Tip five, once you purchase your watch, have it serviced immediately, do not run an old watch that may have been in a drawer for over 40 years (pocket watch era finished circa 1980s), it can damage the movement. Tip six, do not use any kind of cleaning cloths on pocket watches, they can contain mild abrasives and may damage the surface. Tip seven, buy a chain, never drop a pocket watch. Tip eight, if it is your first pocket watch buy a Waltham or an Elgin, millions of them out there, you can pick them up cheap, parts are available (not dials) every horologist has worked on them throughout their career. Do not buy a Fusee pocket watch, here in the UK it is getting harder to find people to service them, parts are unavailable as well. I was quoted £450 to have a fusee serviced a few months ago $558.50 at 25/06/2020. Last tip, buy a working pocket watch, without damage, nice dial, 15j plus. There are millions of pocket watches, be patient. If you want to try a mechanical pocket watch to see if it suits you, buy something like a Smiths Empire, about £20-£25 working in the UK, then sell it on. pocketwatchdatabase.com is your friend to look at serial numbers, it will tell you everything about the movement, try searching the Elgin watch serial 7696154 in the video. There is information about cases, companies, sizes, virtually everything you need to know. Good luck and enjoy your purchase.
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 2 года назад
Horologist? They picked an unfortunate name.
@dwarfsbaneironfist2527
@dwarfsbaneironfist2527 2 года назад
@@johnjriggsarchery2457(Horologist) One who practices or is skilled in horology. (Horology) a person skilled in horology, esp an expert maker of timepieces. They are becoming hard to find, the one I use retires in a few weeks, I am going to have to start posting my watches to get them serviced and repaired.
@RedcoatsReturn
@RedcoatsReturn 6 лет назад
Excellent guidance and insight into these beautifully crafted jewels of precision timekeeping. All gentlemen must have one and it is our duty to preserve them for the next generation. American Railroad pocketwatches for example were beautifully made and are a fine examples of this art and craft!
@shelbycox6332
@shelbycox6332 3 года назад
I carry a 992b hamilton
@dipro001
@dipro001 7 лет назад
This was a lovely guide. Thank you for making it.
@Waltham1892
@Waltham1892 7 лет назад
1. Cases are more common in coin silver (literally, silver coins melted down) than sterling silver. 2. Men's watch sizes are typically 12, 16 and 18. Smaller watches were for young men or women. 3. low jewel movements (13 jewels and under) aren't worth the bother. Watches need to be cleaned and oiled periodically. Its not economical to have a low-jewel movement cleaned. Also, considering the pivots of the wheels are running on metal rather than in a jewel they tend to be worn. Spend the money on a fully jeweled movement (15 jewels or more), it will be worth it in the long run. 4. You are better off buying an American watch than a French/Swiss watch. American watches were made in factories and parts can still be found for them or salvaged from other watches. French/Swiss watches were frequently made as a cottage industry and so the parts tend to be non-standardized and will need to be fitted, at a significant cost. 5. Pocket watches are not modern movements. They lack anti-shock jeweling and modern alloys. You don't have to pamper they but you do need to treat them with care or you are going to break something you don't want to break.
@jessebrown4947
@jessebrown4947 7 лет назад
Waltham1892 Any suggestions on where to look for and a minumum to spend if you want a quality hunter cased watch? I read a response you gave to someone who bought a 992b. Is this an ideal to look out for?
@Waltham1892
@Waltham1892 7 лет назад
As I've pointed out, the cost of a watch is in maintenance and not the sticker price, so it really does not make sense to get the "minimum" watch. You might as well get a fully jeweled (15 jewels or more) watch. That being said, the least I think you can spend on a good example is 125$-150$ Hunter cases are rarer, so they cost more. As for the type of movement, I don't know if the 992 came in a hunter configuration. I think you'd be doing OK if you got a 16 size Waltham Riverside or Crescent Street or an 18 size Appleton and Tracey or Crescent Street.
@nicholasneyhart396
@nicholasneyhart396 5 лет назад
Some modern pocket watches are cast bronze quartz movement.
@johnpublic4937
@johnpublic4937 5 лет назад
@Achaeos Salisbury if precision isn't s factor don't spend a lot of money on your 'in the woods ' watch. You want to consider a 1960's or '70's wrist watch such as s timex. They take s licking and keep on ticking. These are much more durable and inexpensive than most mechanical pocket watch.
@johnpublic4937
@johnpublic4937 5 лет назад
@@Waltham1892 The 992 and 992b were only intended to be open faced as they were built to the railroad standard. These could have a case adapted to hold them but that's a lot of bother to reduce the value of the watch.
@michaelreagan2295
@michaelreagan2295 3 года назад
Excellent video, very informative, thank you for taking the time to educate another pocket watch enthusiast.
@gerrygallagher6166
@gerrygallagher6166 5 лет назад
helped me to no ends .. looking for my first watch.. thanks buddy
@DrRich-mw4hu
@DrRich-mw4hu 5 лет назад
Excellent presentation, thank you 👍👍
@Jameswallace21
@Jameswallace21 5 лет назад
Thankyou sooo much.... I bought my first pwatch today ... colin nz
@gearlab734
@gearlab734 Год назад
Helpful, thanks.
@lorenfilling140
@lorenfilling140 6 лет назад
Cool watch’s
@dfcvda
@dfcvda 7 лет назад
I love mine.
@nezircaglar2381
@nezircaglar2381 6 лет назад
nice pocket watch buying advices...
@lowellhwitte1787
@lowellhwitte1787 Год назад
Well said, hey there I sell rare antique pocket you show check out my instagram I bet you’d fine something you like.
@jerrymoore8580
@jerrymoore8580 4 года назад
Thanks for a great video! Has anyone put a display case-back on their Elgin Railroad Edition pocket watch? It's such a beautiful movement. It would be nice to observe the movement in action without having to unscrew the existing, plain, case-back.
@dwarfsbaneironfist2527
@dwarfsbaneironfist2527 3 года назад
Hi, I have a Waltham Vanguard 23j in A Waltham salesmans case it is in stunning condition, it looks great with the glass back. The cases are sometimes available on Ebay. This is the watch movement. pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/waltham/18098705
@thekeeperoftime1977
@thekeeperoftime1977 4 года назад
Nice video
@robertduncan2742
@robertduncan2742 4 года назад
Great
@cottonmouth521
@cottonmouth521 Год назад
I have an antique. French regulator. Brand .pocket watch. With a. Porcelain. Dial. Do you know about them. Great video. And many thanks
@jimd1968
@jimd1968 5 месяцев назад
I like the ELGIN MEN'S HUNTER POCKET WATCH, what is your thoughts as a first pocket watch to collect?
@jimd1968
@jimd1968 5 месяцев назад
I am looking to buy a closed face Stirling silver pocket watch, is there one you recomend?
@Johnny35130
@Johnny35130 4 года назад
Not many hunters are anything other than sidewinder.In fact "sidewinder" is a term mostly for hunting movements in open face cases.
@crackrokmccaib
@crackrokmccaib 4 года назад
Truth. Hunting cases are always wound at the 3 position. Railroad cases are typically at 12.
@cookingprof
@cookingprof 4 года назад
I've never commented so many times on a video. Howard ,Elgin, Boston Watch, Illinois, Waltham; etc, are devoid of correct information
@BlueRidgeCritter
@BlueRidgeCritter 2 года назад
You mentioned sidewinders - gotta throw out an ocd argument - a "sidewinder" *technically* is a hunting case movement in an open face case. What you were calling a "sidewinder" isn't technically right - it was just a regular hunting case movement configuration.
@KRShields
@KRShields 11 месяцев назад
Ha I just went to ebay not even looking for a pocket watch and purchased a Hamilton 992B military
@cookingprof
@cookingprof 4 года назад
I noticed that you did not discuss European Made watches. I have a 29 jeweled Patek Philippe. Octagonal .95 Platinum cased watch. Rolex made some pocket watches that are of a good value to be purchased in the market today. (My Rolexes are worn on the wrist.)
@alexthai2456
@alexthai2456 2 года назад
which once is better??? the open case pocket watch or the once with the close cap??
@Mrdavidr23
@Mrdavidr23 2 года назад
There is no better, it's all personal preference. All of them work and look great.
@alexthai2456
@alexthai2456 2 года назад
@@Mrdavidr23 are all the pocket watch selling out there today all have music in it when open the cap????
@loriosterweil982
@loriosterweil982 2 года назад
Where can I safely purchase a Patek pocket watch?
@Mrdavidr23
@Mrdavidr23 2 года назад
Chrono 24 is not a bad place to start.
@r.y.6183
@r.y.6183 5 лет назад
Can we buy your watch online from overseas ?
@Mrdavidr23
@Mrdavidr23 5 лет назад
Yes, we ship worldwide
@lightninjack0
@lightninjack0 4 года назад
@@Mrdavidr23 do you sell on ebay? If so how do i search for you?
@scottmeeker9971
@scottmeeker9971 2 года назад
It’s not a “sidewinder”, it’s a hunting case movement.
@julianbizdoaca1546
@julianbizdoaca1546 2 года назад
How I can buy a pocket watch that works to perfection at keeping the time.
@jason60chev
@jason60chev 3 года назад
1700s? Railway schedules in the 1700s??????
@zulalibaltaci5980
@zulalibaltaci5980 4 года назад
My son wants a pocket watch.
@Mrdavidr23
@Mrdavidr23 4 года назад
we are happy to help him find one - get in touch!
@bagirathanv1426
@bagirathanv1426 2 года назад
@@Mrdavidr23please send details
@jongirolami4978
@jongirolami4978 Год назад
There were no trains in the 1700's to check time.
@jamessarvan7692
@jamessarvan7692 5 лет назад
Gotta correct you on one thing. Wrist watches did exist in the 1800s. Actually the first one was made in 1810. They were quite common in the 1800s, but only worn by women, because they were marketed as bracelets. So it might be true that they started to be made for men during the 1900s, but they did exist for women throughout the entire 19th century pretty much.
@johnpublic4937
@johnpublic4937 5 лет назад
It was the first world war that wrist watches became a watch for men because the military issued them to soldiers because they were much more convenient to use in battle.
@crackrokmccaib
@crackrokmccaib 4 года назад
Fake news at 4:00 that is gold filled. It says warranted 20 years. It is 14k GF, not solid karat gold.
@cookingprof
@cookingprof 4 года назад
Why did not address the fact t hat there would be a bit of paper inside the watch that documents the service/ calibration of the watch if it was; "Railroad"?
@scottmeeker9971
@scottmeeker9971 2 года назад
That would not be common for US watches.
@thedude9036
@thedude9036 3 года назад
It’s weird that pocket watches were used to time railway schedules in the 18th century, especially since the first steam locomotive wasn’t made until the 19th century.
@DUA1939
@DUA1939 Год назад
Thank you for video, but those lint packed gloves really made me shudder.
@Ashton-blakey-antiques
@Ashton-blakey-antiques Год назад
They look worse on camera, i see what you mean!
@27461Andy
@27461Andy 5 лет назад
Man that's wrong. Pocket watches date earlier than the 1700s.
@johnpublic4937
@johnpublic4937 5 лет назад
Yes the folks that did this were not exactly expert on their history or terminology.
@wringster8289
@wringster8289 5 лет назад
Agreed
@cookingprof
@cookingprof 4 года назад
17 hundreds???? I was not aware that there were railroads in the 17 hundreds. (IMHO you have your dates SERIOUSLY wrong.)
@BlueRidgeCritter
@BlueRidgeCritter 2 года назад
You have to kind of define railroads. The first American railroad was built in the 1760's in NY, and VA also used rail to get coal out of the mines to the James River depos in the late 1700's. BUT, they were gravity and/or horse drawn; *steam locomotives* didn't make their appearance much until the 1820's. Still, from a purist standpoint, they WERE railroads.
@lkkjhtemmexv1838
@lkkjhtemmexv1838 4 года назад
how to buy a pocket watch 1-get some money you dont need. 2-shop everywhere. 3-try to buy a watch with certification or serviced, otherwise your buying garbage at very expensive price.
@garyraney7760
@garyraney7760 3 года назад
Like Bunn Special calls it. OPJ-Other People's Junk. 😆
@thomaswilliams1103
@thomaswilliams1103 2 года назад
Try washing machines.
@mikeforcerer8537
@mikeforcerer8537 3 года назад
No phone here, Just a pocket watch, Also i have a good relationship with my wife.
@karikrummi4222
@karikrummi4222 5 лет назад
Rust is cancer. Irl and the game.
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