How to Calibrate A Series Monitors Using the Sonarworks SoundID Reference Integration

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Every ADAM Audio A Series monitor contains an embedded platform on the loudspeaker's DSP that can store calibration filters created in SoundID Reference by Sonarworks. This means that once the SoundID Reference profile has been transferred to your speakers, no further software or VST is required to benefit from the custom calibration.
In this video we explore the calibration process from start-to-finish, and share details on the extend 60-day SoundID Refence trial for A Series customers.
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@sunstreetstudios6475 Год назад

This is absolute genius congrats. As a long time user of Sonarworks and owner of the older P11As, this makes me VERY tempted to get the 3 way A series for our control room. I use Sonarkworks to help flatten the response and have a complicated setup where our SSL loops back into pro tools so that I hear room correction while tracking and monitoring through the board. The compromise of this is the additional latency, I have to turn off room correction if I’m tracking in the control room or only correct the playback. I know Genelec and other manufacturers have their own similar system but using Sonarworks that I know and trust is fantastic. Congrats, this is a great idea well executed.

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

🤗🥰

@SoundIDCreators Год назад

Awesome, great to hear that!

@LanewoodStudios Месяц назад

While doing the room measurement with the SoundID software, do I need to leave the mode set to ‘Pure’ on the speakers or is it better to turn off adaptation?

@vagus1 Год назад

Thx for this outstanding work ADAM team :)

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Thank you, V4gus 🙌

@elresplandor1476 3 месяца назад

your Adam control sucks!..eh updated my mac,updated my fireware and even make us spend more money to buy a mic sonarwork is very expensive and still the app has problems is outrageous service adam audio.

@ADAMAudioBerlin 3 месяца назад

Hi @elresplandor1476. We're genuinely sorry to hear about your experience. Please reach out to our Support Team via our official support form on this page: support.adam-audio.com/hc/en-gb/requests/new. We'll work swiftly to find a solution for you. Have a great day! Best, Jasper from ADAM Audio.

@francoisbeauvais4323 Год назад

When taking measurements from the Sonarworks app, what settings should be set on the speaker DSP? I'm assuming we should calibrate from the pure settings is that right? What if I took my mesures from the UNR settings? Maybe that should be clarified. Edit : Ok I got my answers in the comments bellow. So yes make measurements with pure setting.

@santiagovanegas3812 11 месяцев назад

Is there a way to switch through the different translation eq curves of SoundID Reference from A Control?

@thaexception3406 Год назад

the way to go for all speakers

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

🚀🚀🚀

@emirhanolgun7351 6 месяцев назад

does the calibration settings stay after the trial has ended ?

@ADAMAudioBerlin 6 месяцев назад

Hi @emirhanolgun7351! As long as you disconnect the Ethernet-Cable from the speakers after uploading the measurement profile it will remain installed on the Speakers' DSP

@colewalker8288 Год назад

Will it be for the S Series as well?

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi Cole! As you see we have brought out the A Series with an included Sonarworks integration at launch because it was a ground-up design that included this feature from the start of the project. For the S Series we have to retrofit this feature to an existing product and that has proved to be harder than expected when the cooperation was first announced. We cannot promise any timeline right now but please keep watching ADAM Audio for any possible future announcements.

@heehaww2933 Год назад

How do u calibrate the A77X? Also can this calibrate a77x in horizontallly/

@phelper4554 Год назад

One question is a ethernet switch needed or can i upload the preset one by one to every monitor?

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi PhelPer! an ethernet switch would be the best to control your setup all at once, but you could load the information one by one.

@mdmamusicproduction Год назад

i’ve done the calibration correctly with sonarwork sound id reference, and i have the measurement file, however there are few problems. 1) in sound ID reference i can’t export the file of the calibration 2) from a control when i go to: load sound ID preset, i can’t choose the file of the calibration. i also noticed from your youtube tutorial on the A control that the actually software for calibration ‘Sound ID reference’ it’s called slightly different and it has a slightly different interface, and in the tutorial it show that you can export the calibration for the A series , however in my sonarwork sound ID reference this option it’s not appearing if i right click on the A7V calibration.

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi Rico! Please reach out to our support team at support@adam-audio.de They will guide you to fix those problems. Sorry for the inconvenience.

@jakojako_live Год назад

Thank you!

@billpayer3745 Год назад

Game changer. Great work!

@thedropout8541 Год назад

Is this feature supported for the S-series?

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi The Dropout! Unfortunately not. ONly works on the A Series

@thedropout8541 Год назад

@@ADAMAudioBerlin please pass along my desire for this feature to whoever’s job that is! :) I use Sonarworks with my S2Vs currently and would love to not have to worry about latency

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

yeah, we are working hard on it. The A Control is a feature created especially for these new monitors but for the S Series we have to retrofit this feature to an existing product and that has proved to be harder than expected when the cooperation was first announced. We cannot promise any timeline right now but please keep watching ADAM Audio for any possible future announcements.

@thedropout8541 Год назад

@@ADAMAudioBerlin I can imagine it is quite a technical challenge! Love my S2Vs they are an incredible product. Exciting to know it’s something that is being worked on, I really appreciate the response!

@nucentury08 8 месяцев назад

So there is no Exporting unless i own the Sonarworks?

@ADAMAudioBerlin 8 месяцев назад

Hi @nucentury08! In Collaboration with Sonarworks, we can offer each customer of the A-Series a 60 day trial of Sound ID reference, which allows to export the calibration profile and upload it directly to the speakers DSP via A-Control. I hope this answers your question!

@louiscoutellier120 Год назад

Hi ! the fact we are exporting 0 db profile will not give us bass boost if we're lacking bass ?

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi Louis, strong dips in the bass region are a result of so-called room modes, The superposition of sound waves leads to the cancellation or amplification of the overlapping amplitudes. If you now amplify the bass signal, the reflected signal is also amplified, which only leads to more cancellation. At the same time, the addition of the wave at another point in the room is amplified even further. Therefore we advise using the 0 dB export function and treating massive dips in the bass range with positioning and room acoustics. If you decide that you want to use another mode, feel free to do so but we strongly advise using the 0 dB boost export option.

@louiscoutellier120 Год назад

@@ADAMAudioBerlin thanks for this detailed answer ! So in the 0db boost mode , the profile only work on reflections and not on the dips ?

@judaspriestzou Год назад

Hi can you do this to the speakers one by one without a ethernet switch?

@ArjunVagale Год назад

Yes you can - I did exactly this and it worked

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi 圣屠! That is possible, yes :)

@philipmcgarva1824 Год назад

I did the room EQ measurement, exported it and opened it in A-Control. When I now open Sound ID it shows the EQ curve so I assume it will always open the previous (exported) file. Is this correct? Because there is no 'open file' function anywhere. Also, to the left of the Sound ID window, the message 'No outputs added yet' and 'Click here to add a new output'. I assume this setting is not relevant if I am exporting the file to A-Control and my A7V monitor - is this correct? Thanks 🤞

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hey Philip! Please reach out to Sonarworks Support Team and don't hesitate to ask all the technical questions you might have. The Support Team will be the best people to ask and they will be very happy to help. You can get in contact with them here: www.sonarworks.com/support All the best, Manuel.

@Kiradu95 Год назад

great idea

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Thanks for watching 👍

@windur Год назад

When will you release a subwoofer with Sound ID Reference? Would be nice to calibrate the sub and speakers together!

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi there! We are working on expanding the right tools for our customers. We will keep you posted for all future updates.

@jaydenmorehead3790 Год назад

Hello Adam Audio or anyone please provide your comments... Do I need to switch the limit controls in soundID Reference before exporting to A Control? Also is it reccomended to turn off listening spot in SoundID Reference before exporting? Does A control account for the delay and volume compensation that the listening spot feature provides?

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi Jayden! We recommend selecting the "No Boost" setting, everything else "Neutral". Listening Spot may very well be activated, these parameters are exported as well.

@johnroberts4000 5 месяцев назад

which network switch should i be buying. Do you have any tutorials on how to use the network switch to connect both A7v to my Internets wifi modem router

@ADAMAudioBerlin 5 месяцев назад

Hi @johnroberts4000, thanks for your question! We have a video about how to connect your A Series Monitors with A Control, you can watch it here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-STvUdQ-X2no.html Most standard network switches and WiFi-Routers will work for this, simply plug them in as shown in the video and they will show up in A Control.

@francoisbeauvais4323 Год назад

Oddly, I'm getting different results from when I'm using the app and when I'm importing the calibration profile in my A77h. And this seems to be confirmed by Room EQ Wizard as well where I get different room measurements when using the Sonarworks embedded though the Adam Speakers and when using the App. Any idea what might cause that? Thanks,

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi François, that is due to the 0db boost export function that is the default option when exporting Sonarworks filter curves. You can change the option but we highly recommend to use this option. Let us know if you have any further questions. All the best!

@francoisbeauvais4323 Год назад

@@ADAMAudioBerlin Hey thanks for quick the answer! Could you please tell us why you recommend using the 0dB boost option? What exactly is boosted when choosing 6 or 12 dB and? Am I to assume there is a boost by default when using the app? Thanks,

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

@@francoisbeauvais4323 Of course. We recommend this option, because if there is a dip in the bass it is most likely coming from an acoustic cancellation in the room, caused by a reflection. The 6/12 db boost options use not only subtractive, but also additive equalization. If there is cancellation due to a room mode it cannot be EQ’ed out with boost. This only increases the cancellation. If you want to use this option however you can of course do so. All the best!

@francoisbeauvais4323 Год назад

@@ADAMAudioBerlin Thanks, this makes total sens.

@pvab009 Год назад

Hi Adam team, does a SoundID multi-channel export/upload also work?- I assume this will be reflected into the "A-control" software right?!

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi Peter! yes, in A Control we have set up everything so that it can be read.

@TristanArcadia 11 месяцев назад

How many EQ bands from SoundID are utilised within the DSP and what is the latency?

@ADAMAudioBerlin 11 месяцев назад

Hi Tristan! For this question, please contact the support team from Sonarworks via this link soundid-reference.support.sonarworks.com/hc/en-us/articles/12959397470866-How-to-contact-Sonarworks-support#01H7WAXSSPD6ZAV1Z8DWTSTWP0

@eduardoron Год назад

Great video! I was testing things on my A8Hs with the No boost options as well as the normal 12dB boost profile. Why is it not recommended to use these boosted profiles? I know that if I have a boost the null with EQ (70Hz), it will cancel anyway, but I do hear the boost, and sounds better. Also, I love the low end applied to the lows, which get closer to the UNR profile. Thank you!

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi Eduardo! If there is a dip in the bass it is most likely coming from an acoustic cancellation in the room caused by a reflection. This cannot be EQ’ed out with boost. This is why we do not recommend using boost however this does not stop you from using it if you really want to.

@stevencharleswhite7045 Год назад

Is the calibration lost when you power off the speakers, and has to be re-uploaded each time you power on? Thanks!

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi Steven! Your configuration gets saved, and you won't lose it if you turn off the speakers. ;)

@TonyMacaroni69_ 10 месяцев назад

I'm curious to know why you recommend selecting "No boost". I've been comparing the diferent boost setting back to back and they sound fairly diferent in my system. If I do select the boost function my bass seems to be more consistent and I hear more high end. The problem is, that I have no clue witch of both is closer to an actual "flat" response. I feel like the lower frequencies have become more even but I'm not sure if the highs also did or if they are now boosted too much...

@ADAMAudioBerlin 10 месяцев назад

Hi Tony! We recommend this option because if there is a dip in the bass it is most likely coming from an acoustic cancellation in the room, caused by a reflection. The 6/12 db boost options use not only subtractive, but also additive equalization. If there is cancellation due to a room mode it cannot be EQ’ed out with boost. This only increases the cancellation. If you'd like to use this option however you can of course do so. All the best!

@TonyMacaroni69_ 10 месяцев назад

@@ADAMAudioBerlin okay, thank you for the explanation👍

@odeonhealingfrequencies2743 7 месяцев назад

how would you incorporate a sub into calibration?

@ADAMAudioBerlin 7 месяцев назад

Hi @odeonhealingfrequencies2743! Thanks for your question. To calibrate a subwoofer, the use of a room-correction software like Sound ID Reference is needed to correct the master output on the software side. I hope this answers your question, greetings from Berlin!

@tallerdecometa Год назад

Awesomeness! What are the reports on latency? Thanks!

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi Taller! The latency on our DSP chip is 1.6 milliseconds, so only a fraction of the vst plugin's latency.

@tallerdecometa Год назад

@@ADAMAudioBerlin awesome, is this also with the sonarworks curve?

@murrayj7636 Год назад

Could you explain how this would work with the addition of a sub7? If this is correct, Currently sonar works plugin processes pre sub but with the plugin working directly on the monitors. The sub signal will be left with no processing.

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi Murray! The Sub7 cannot be controlled in A Control as the current range is analogue, but they can be integrated into an already calibrated DSP system.

@murrayj7636 Год назад

@@ADAMAudioBerlin Thanks for the reply. I really want to purchase the A8H, they look great and it’s a killer idea but do have reservations still. Could you elaborate further on the addition of a sub and the signal chain? My room for example needs some correction from 80hz and below (I have room treatment already) even if the monitors are calibrated with sonar works active, the low frequencies will not be produced by the monitors, right? The signal would have already gone through the sub and crossover frequency point before it reaches the speakers. Therefore this leaves the low frequencies without any correction eq? Appreciate your time and response!

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi Murray! For a system with an analogue subwoofer, we would just need to calibrate the loudspeakers using Sonarworks and tune them as desired. Next, we could bring the subwoofer into the system in the normal way. We will have to use a slightly different phase setting compared to integrating with an analogue loudspeaker that has no latency, but that does not make it wrong. The volume control will have to be done in the source equipment, not in A Control. When comparing using some A7Vs with a Sub or only a pair of A8Hs, we could say that there are advantages and disadvantages in adding the Sub... Advantages: lower LF cut off frequency, reduced distortion, higher low frequency headroom, increased placement flexibility. Disadvantages: the additional bass management filtering adds group delay around the crossover frequency. In very good rooms and with good ears and revealing material, this can be audible. Usually adding a subwoofer is a good thing but it needs to be set up properly to get the maximum benefit. :)

@AlexTritok Год назад

What about the phase option in SoundID , can it be replicated in the DSP of the Adam (linear phase or mixed) ?

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi Alex! We use a custom set of BiQuad filters to read Sonarworks calibrations on A Series monitors. These filter sets operate with ultra-low latency across all monitors in the range, with an average of 1,6 ms no matter what calibration mode is active on the monitor.

@AlexTritok Год назад

@@ADAMAudioBerlin What does it mean ? Is the phase response with calibration linear , or maybe mixed ? Does pre-ringing occur when using the sonarworks calbration read by the DSP ?

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi Alex! BiQuads are easy to compute, so that we achieve the low latency we have on our A Series monitors - and the latency stays the same across all modes. BiQuads are not linear phase. Due to the transformation into BiQuads, pre ringing does not occur.

@mrmikis Год назад

This software is not working reliably for me at all. I have a 7.1.4 Dolby atmos setup with A77’s, A7’s and 2x sub 12’s. Crashing all the time, rebooting all the speakers all the time and causing a 1k tone at full volume out of some speakers on occasion. Not so good!

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi Mikis! Sorry to hear that. The A Control has just been released and it is in continuous development and improvement. If you find some problems, please send screenshots to beta@adam-audio.de. This will help us to fix the found issues. Thanks!!

@komapilot1 Год назад

@@ADAMAudioBerlin iv been dealing with the exact same issue looking everywhere for information on it. I have an M1 Max MacBook Pro and a7v's

@ADAMAudioBerlin Год назад

Hi Julian. We're so sorry to hear you're experiencing that. Please reach out to our Support Team via our official support form at the bottom of this page: www.adam-audio.com/en/support/. Hopefully, we'll find a solution to your problem as soon as possible. Have a great day! All the best, Manuel from ADAM.

@ArjunVagale Год назад

So ... another real world review. I exported my Sonarworks calibration and uploaded them to the A7V (individually as I dont have a hub or extra cables - it works). But I wasn't happy with the sound - it seemed dull. I then just ran the SoundID calibration on my mac and switched the A7V to UNR more, and they sounded much better. This, for me, seems to be the better combination. Not 100% sure what UNR does, but that in combination with the SoundID calibration seems to sound WAY better. Maybe not completely flat (as I like a bit more Bass - but hey, thats exactly why one can customize right?) Perhaps there is a way in the future to combine both (UNR+SoundID) so that they can be embedded directly onto the monitors. Either-way, very happy with the way the A7V's sound.