I haven't owned a crt in 8 years but this makes me want to get one to do this. 😂 I found this video when I saw a retro picture of someone tuning a crt.
Dude you can do all kinds of cool stuff with a crt. Get one! The screen goes psychedelic when you wave magnets around it and you can shoot deadly lightning bolts out of the anode cap.
Have the last 50Hz CRT TV Sony produced in Europe, KV-29FX30E, and it has even more options in the service menu than my 20L5, it even shows hours used, errors on different boards , basicly you don't need to open it :). Thanks for the video!
@@SamsungS-or1qf It's hard to say. Pro tubes are typically replaced around 30 to 40 k hours and I think they are more resistant than consumer tubes. I would guess a consumer tube starts to look tired around 20 k hours. It's not going stop working it will just start looking dim.
I tried doing a two point calibration on my crt with calman and a meter. I used the service menu for rgb gain/drive to do this. I had the contrast set for 100 nits. Couldn't really dial it in very well, it actually looked better with default warm setting adjusted with blue filter.
Some of this comes down to taste. I did a color calibration on a friends tv once. His white balance was WAY off. He hated it after I corrected it and I had to try and wack it out for him. I think he just got used to seeing his tv garish and grean pushed. Some consoles and even some games look better with different white balance. I like live action movies with blue push but prefer games with perfect white balance or even some red push.
There’s another thing u can do….. if ur comfortable.. you could take the back cover off if you know what you’re doing and adjust the rings on the neck of the tube for Color convergence and purity, brightness and even focus if needed… I did that for my 32 inch Sayno crt… colors are aligned better and it’s brighter… you’ll find there’s 2 knobs one marked focus and the other brightness. I was adjusting everything while also adjusting the settings in the menu….
@@chrisscott5339 yeah I don't know if the tv you mentioned has a sevice menu like that but a lot of TVs do. It's hard to find info on CRTs that aren't Sony
Hey guys make sure youre using 240p Test Suite's color bars for the correct console. I was doing it on the Genesis and didn't see any of the three grey/black bars on the bottom right, thought something was wrong with my tv, but I tried SNES instead and they showed up. This is probably obvious stuff but I'm throwing it out there in case someone makes the same mistake i did
Cool man. That's a bad ass crt. I think I have a review of one on my channel. Any toshiba remote should work. Doesn't have to be the exact model. Just get something close.
thanks a ton, that was super useful! I've seen the LCD ones but yours is more tailor-made for us retro-gamers. I'm using RGB on my set and therefore there's no color setting... wondering how I'll be able to tune the SMPTE pattern. I guess I'll have to use the R, G and B gains and cuts? Btw I'm pretty sure that ''cut'' is for the darker end of the color and ''gain'' is for the lighter end. ''bias'' is sometimes used instead of ''cut''
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If you keep tinkering with the color service menu settings. I think you can get the color on that set to match your flat screen XBR and BVM. On Your corrected settings you lowered the gcut to 6 and bcut to 10 but You have you green drive at 37 and blue drive at 33, you must lower the green drive. IMO I think your BVM and flatscreen XBR have too much blue color setting, I would lower the blue on those. Just trying to help.
Thanks. I tried messing with the drive setting but didn't have good results. I talked to some guys on redit who suggested I buy a probe and adjust white balance by adjusting gain/bias controls. I'm thinking about doing that
@@riggel8804 👍yeah I noticed that, My PVM wasn’t as blue for that level. I use the grey color bars to see if it looks off. It’s hard to see it if you use white screen for color correction. Color correction is one of the most important things imo, it vastly improves image quality.
I have a sony trinitron kv-36fv16 and mine has gone way green. I tried adjusting the service settings and it helped a little but the way I take it is that there is a Resistor or cap or possibly a cold sotter joint on the neck board. Maybe I'll get the guts to try to fix it one day for now I've been using my sony trinitron kv-13fm13
@Riggel yes i put all colors to 0 in menu(r-drive), then adjusted according to lvl 1 on the color bars map so they all have equal intensity which should be barely visible for lvl 1.
@@SamsungS-or1qf Interesting technique. I haven't tried that. usually there are color settings for the upper and lower limits in the service menu. I believe on Sonys the drive settings are for the upper limits and bias is for the lower. Did you turn the bias down as well? Sometimes the menu calls it gain instead of bias.
So informative. A couple questions: are plugged in via RGB, component, or composite? And what does Rgain, Ggain, Bgain, Rcut, Gcut, and Bcut do? Thanks!
CUT affects to colors intensity on the lower end of grey scale, DRIVE affects the higher end of grey scale. When you start playing with those settings you really need a colorimeter.
@@riggel8804 wow, yeah I got it pretty close, sad my house is only so big, it's hiding out in the garage until I am confident I can actually do a thorough resto on it. You know, the good old rotation game with the collection. I got the convergence as close as I can on it, but the specs on the components are bad and at the least needs to be recapped. I could do a whole video on setting convergence, 8 or so manual pots for everything under the sun... btw your vids are awesome bro, really got me into this hobby.
I have a crt where I can get it to tint green red or blue but It won't show full color, nothing happens when I turn the color knob, I can only adjust the color bias knobs on the back. It's a 1985 rca x-100
Great video! Really amazing stuff! But I think you forgot to tell us what you do with the "picture/contrast" after you had everything set. Everything seems a little dark
I think I mention it in there somewhere...probably towards the end...anyways, you want to turn it up. Once your color/chroma, tint/hue and brightness are dialed in you leave them alone. Adjust contrast and brightness to taste. It's the only thing you adjust from now on. I adjust it from game to game and movie to movie. Some like it dark some like it bright.
@@riggel8804 you're absolutely right you did mention it later on. I've watched this video countless times and somehow missed that every time. Sorry for that and thanks for the video! You're doing gods work! Cheers
Do you mean like an anti glare film? No. The only CRTs I have seen with those are very high end Pro monitors. The flatscreen Sonys are just a tube in a bezel.
Some flat screen crt’s do have extra glass in the front to make the tube strong enough to hold vacuum without blowing up. My fv300 seems like it’s got an extra half inch in front of where the phosphor coating is. That’s a lot of the reason why flat screen sets are heavier than curved screens. More glass in the front
@@dylanjastle trinitrons are stupid heavy. I had a kv-32fv300.i never noticed an extra layer of glass. I've seen some stylish early 90s zenith's with 2 layers of glass and wood grain. Those tvs swivel
I agree the color was too blue on the tate tv. I have a link in the description of this video where I demonstrate how to set white balance. I set the white balance on the tate tv in that video and the tv is now less blue.
They all start to drift after awhile. It's amazing they look as good as they do after 25 years. I got a video on correcting white ballance that might help you.
Could be bad components. Hard to say without a video to look at. You could try adjusting the white balance on video 3. I have a video on white balance. Good luck!
I remember calling savon pat’s personal cell phone about my kv25xbr, he told me to just throw it away and get a pvm LOL. I got it repaired in the end, but my red is too Red and have no idea how to turn it down or if there’s a secret menu like this
fuckin pat told me I should use my BVM1911 as a boat anchor. Dude doesn't use pro monitors. He just pokes around in them. Sometimes you have to bury your dead.
It's a Trinitron and they're all pretty similar so try this. With TV on standby use the remote and press in order - Display --> 5 --> Vol. Up --> Standby/Power. Write down original values in the service menu before changing anything. You''ll want to look for RDR(Red gain or drive) and RCT(Red Cutoff). My Trinitron also had far too much red. I reduced the RDR and all is good.
I have a 1080i Philips CRT TV. And, in the service menu, I can't find where to turn off every colour individually. There is an option called RGB allign, but, turning R G or B to zero doesn't turn them off-it makes them less blown out, and more when the number is higher... If anyone can help, please let me know.
Purchase a dark blue theater gel to get a blue screen. Look up my "how to correct white balance" video for more detail on how to adjust R, G, and B guns.
All the other settings I leave alone once calibrated but I constantly adjust contrast. If the movie is dark I turn contrast up. If I am playing a bright colorful nintendo game and I turn contrast down. Adjust to taste.
It's weird, on my Trinitron, when I use the blue filter to adjust the colour to the correct setting everything looks really saturated and red. Is it the bias or the cutoff or something that I need to adjust after that?
Ya know what... I just got it. It's a little 21 inch Sony flat screen with just over 15000 hours on it. The geometry's a bit off but the colours pop and it's nice and sharp. It's got a beefy little mono speaker as well. I just played through riot city on it and it looks amazing. The more I use it the more I like it. Rather than worry about colour levels I'm better off just playin some fuckin games on it! 🤣
5:30 - Before adjusting Color and Tint, you should disable "Trinitone"(whatever the heck that is!) and 'color correction'. I've found that those don't really do anything useful and could throw off your calibration results
@@riggel8804 Then start from a level playing field - turn it off in the user menu(it's right there!) - and then do grayscale. That goes for all such "enhancers". Why wouldn't you?
@@Zickcermacity Ha ha yeah. Probably should have turned the trinitone off. I do that in my white balance correction video don't know why I didn't do it here. Honestly, I don't know if it makes much of a difference. Trinitone affects white balance and if your white balance is off you can't really correct it by adjusting contrast, hue, brightness and color. You need to do a white balance correction for that and that's a whole other can of worms.
@@Caleb-fv5fp I've heard people say the old curved screen consumer sonys have a dimmer image. I don't know if this is by design or from being old and worn out. My hunch is that its just from being a 30 year old crt. You can theoretically rejuvinate them. I borrowed a rejuvininator but I couldn't get any of the neck board adapters to fit my tv. Plus I think the rejuve is really for tvs in really bad shape where one of the color guns is almost non functional. You always run the rusk of bricking your tv when you do a rejuve. I chickened out.
My pvm is little softly green The white look like soft pink . I don't see discoloration in the neck gun. What can be wrong?. On screen menu looks great
Thank for the video man my wega had this proble were everything has s light hint of green im going to try this i hope it works because it really bothers me.im already subscribe to your channel and gave the video a like but i can still beat tmnt on the nes or xmen on the genessis as a thanks
@@SlickEd91 watch my video on how to adjust white balance. It gives detailed instructions. That tv might not have red gun controls in the service menu i. E. Rcut, rdrive. If not, what you do is adjust the bdrive and gdrive in concert. I. E. If you want to turn the red gun down 5, on the high end, you turn the gdrive and bdrive UP 5. Same thing goes for the bcut and gcut on the low end. If the color is really bad you probably need to "rejuvenate" the tv which is problematic to get done these days and didn't work all the great in the best of times.
@@riggel8804 ok I just got into it and it does have those settings I noticed the the default factors on the gdrive were 63 and the bdrive the same 63 but the rdrive was 100 so what can I do if it's that high?
@@SlickEd91 okay. So you are in luck. Having a rdrive makes it a little easier. I can't tell you where to set the numbers. You have to figure it out by eye. You need a reference monitor and test patterns. Do you have test patterns available? Most lcd screens have excellent white balance and work well as reference monitors. Have you watched my video on white balance?
@@superlink235 google search smpte color pattern. That's what it is. I use a program called 240p test suite. It's free to download. It runs on video game consoles like snes nes tg16. You can also load it from an emulator.