How to CARRY BAD ADCS as Support - League of Legends 

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I just hate how sometimes when you get a really bad adc and you do your best to do everything to save them, they keep making mistakes and blame you for it...

That Thresh almost predicted that flash. Insane.

1:47 Nautilus looking real sus

TLDR: Don't carry your adc, carry your other teammates

This is something, as a support player that I really apperciate! Had my first 15 matches or so matches on ranked and right now, sitting in Bronze 1 with the goal to hit Silver 1 by the end of the season(Placed Bronze 3). As a support main, something I have been struggling with is "Carrying" my team as a support. Roaming was something I was aware of and tried to do but never to this extent as shown here. More than that, the idea to find winning lanes and playing alongside them is great advice and something I should have adopted a long time ago but will now look to implement into my game. Here is hoping it helps me finally climb into Silver!

Basically, you are the TEAM support, not the ADC's support

but here is the real solo q support problem: what if...your whole team is a twitch?

It's funny that they've used a Blitzcrank instead of a Nautilus at 2:00

When I do it in my elo, my team flames me for ditching the adc even after he is 0/6/0 within 10 mins.

What helped me as support was when I was told identify your win condition and support them. You have to start bot lane, you don't have to stay bot lane. If your ADC is garbage, he's not your win con, find who is and make plays for them.

I always type in chat and try to coach my adc when he's bad. Pinging is also a good method and no I don't mean spam pinging question marks... Everybody has bad games and not everbody is a god gamer so just don't be mad and don't tell them that they should "stop inting". They don't do it on purpose...

Me playing support: Is my ADC walking up when the 9th minion is about to die? If yes: I like him. If no: Me jungle now.

Play dmg supports until your at a rank where your teammates have enough game sense you can start playing tanks and utility supports

In my experience with support one mindset helps more than anything. Your adc is a kindergartener. Guide them to the right plays. Keep it to one or two pings and phrase everything as nice questions or commands like: hey come reset with me or shall we setup around drake?. I single ping or two on them and then two on where you want them to go. If they are unhelpable roam. Play engage support and find your one sane teammate and make plays with them. Force your team into the correct fight . If you go into every game knowing that they will be living minions, it’s a lot less tilting when you turn out to be correct and it will feel a lot better if they are not

I don’t play bot much but I have a huge tip. Don’t be an asshole, everytime I play adc/support me and my support/adcs are like best friends. They love to be complimented and not flamed after a mistake. Getting good synergy with them is really important

I think one really overlooked part of the video is when thresh went back to help twitch push the wave. My guess is there were a few times it was needed while he was off roaming, but helping when you're in a position to do so and there's nothing else happening on the map is important. Even players having a bad game can still contribute by doing damage in a teamfight or pushing lanes. Played with a Vayne bot recently and at the beginning she had no clue how to manage the wave and kept getting punished by the enemy Thresh when she'd use her tumble to engage. I did what I could to help but realized I was better off helping others. By the end of the game though she had enough items to shred through the enemy morde and was still a big help in winning the game. Also played with a draven that yelled at me for his own mistakes when I was making the correct decisions and he threatened to quit. I muted him immediately and roamed heavily after that, but still came back to help when possible. His insane damage output was very helpful in teamfights later on and he was the only one who could kill the enemy Renekton (with help). He credited himself for the win at the end of the game, but the rest of my team recognized the huge role I played in keeping them relevant (not to mention my awesome leona engages).

I feel you. Not being able to control ur adc sometimes hurts

Roaming out of desperation after the death of bot lane is something i did already in the past. Sometimes it went good, tons of times the enemies stick to bot open and either won the game alone if untouched or forced me to try and gain time, since the jungler wasn't aware that covering towers and mid to gank like the enemies did all the time, existed. But the last 6 games lost showed me that too many times it's a mental and lacking base skills problem. For instance, i've had adc inting min 10 because they got killed 3 times while going aggro in a risky matchup, or over extending too much without warding shit with me. So the normal situation to me is like this: _ adc inting and not knowing how to handle the minion waves, how to ward, how to check the minimap etc. _ mid that NEVER EVER ganks bot, not even following the enemy mid laner to at least discourage the gank with just presence pressure. _ top who obviously forgot that ping and TP on wards exist to help like the ol' S3 days _ jungler who "refuses" to gank properly, often coming 1 vs 2 to then rage at the lane if the enemy is overfed. Also no knowledge about his own jungle objecyives etc. I wonder why the 90% of my randoms decided to play ranked when they clearly need to check the training sessions of the game. Seriously, i'm not perfect and i know i'm doing mistakes here and there like everyone else, but at least i know what i'm failing, address that and i try to improve while also adapting here and there. But there's no winning point most of the time, because there's a total ignorance on even how to TF, everyone going solo like fucking Rambo 0/8 and yelling. I tried with enchanters and the mage/assassin meta deletes them, i tried tanks but my adc never does the damage it should and it requires to have him joining the engages, without fleeing or sleeping. I'm literally forced to use mages to have enough damage in lane to tie up with the enemy duo pressure, but it's not like i have enouh power to kill AND to tank them. The reality it's that there's no perfect guide and it's either to have a decent team or it's a loss without parole. But i refuse to surrended in ranked, who knows if we can win a matchup in the middle of the map by a enemy mistake and going to the nexus because of a long revive time. But it's without actual hope.

Nautilus is so OP he morphed into Blitzcrank.

When I do what this Thresh did my friend who is 0-5 at 8 min is blaming me at the end of the game that I left him alone and this is the reason we lost the game. Meanwhile I gank and ward every lane and the rest team just don't follow the plays. I hold the wave at mid and they ping me to go away,I gang top and before I get there he dies even though I pinged I'm ganking top. I'm so glad to see that I'm not the crazy one in these situations... I literally do most of these things and just need to get my patience stronger to keep making the right calls. So hard not to tilt though.

Blitz came back instead of Nautilus? 😂

Can you make a video about the opposite situation?

I can't carry as support because I get so tilted from playing with adcs that play for the enemy team. Shit drives me nuts.

The virgin adc: stands still and auto atack Gets one shotted Cant start a fight The chad adc: Spams 4 buttons to make the adc a god Can take a zed ult They are the fight

Best thumbnail, you outdid youselves.

4:50 "holding the wave" there didn't really do anything though, apart from helping lee recall. However If he'd let a caster or 3 live, wouldn't that help the wave slow push for the twitch, who was going to be in solo lane for the coming 30-40 sec?

I can totally get what this videos teach and I apply those very, very well in my Silver games but it's just insanely hell elo lol. Non-sportsmanship and mental boom is just very real and damaging to not just game efficiency but also the general fun from playing the game. I had been in this game for 6 years and I have no intention of leaving it anytime soon, and even if you get people to just tick a box that says they agree to maintain sportmanship in the game, they just don't do it and would get away with a lot of things. I'm not saying to be as strict as how Riot is doing with Valorant security and gamer welfare, but can I just have a loss mitigation when I obviously have a game that has an inting teammate(s) and AFK chilling in base? As if the game doesn't keep records of what we do in game already.

When I see my adc misplay, i count. 3 times, and youre on your own. No one is gonna fix your mistakes forever. Imagine a Caitlyn, standing in front of a shoving wave, to get hook by a Thresh, then blame me, a Sett, for not assiting her, while i pinged her not to overdo

In bronze / Iron, when u have a carry who has even less clue than u on how to do things and has 0 intention on fixing those mistakes, It´s better to pick a support that can carry the match.

What i’ve learned from just playing support enough: adc inting? -> Roammm. Grubs coming up? -> Roammm. Mid pushed? -> Roammm

Was driving came at work received notification came directly here, already subbed now Thumbed up and watching adds without skipping.! Keep up the great work gentlemen

Okay that twitch is either giga boosted or had an extremely bad game, and I think it is the first, because he really can't even get over bronze playing like that probably

Thresh is no doubt the best support to choose when playing with a bad ad. Pick an engage tank like Leona and you will have no follow up dmg. Poke support can be decent like Vel'coz, trying to zone enemy team out while keeping them low health, but very risky since your AD will allways push rather than freeze, and very often try to dive and die, not to mention the risk of ganks while being 24/7 at their tower.

problem in roaming is that your adc will either still play like he has a support by his side and dies constantly or flames you cause he cant farm and likely goes afk. Sometimes both. and if enemy is paying attention your roams become way harder. if you dont have a jungler palying with you its sometiems impossible to do a good roam (depending on enemy champs of course)

There’s 2 easy ways I have found to do this. Play a “support” that can do damage. That’s why I see ppl who pick Lux, Pyke, Vel’koz, Xerath, Brand… the champs that are less “support” and more “I can get kills” these normally do well as long as you’re better than your ADC. The other east way is, if you pick a support reliant on teammates, then just make sure to have vision and ping enemies you see in the jungle for top and mid as well, then the rest of your team will allow you to roam the map.

How to carry bad adc: Mute and permaroam

imagine going on skillpcapped to see the latest video, and then realize that they're analytically and methodically telling you how shit you are xD

im happy becaues i actually do many of this thinks naturally, that means im improving, witch is nice. Very good video, see u on the rift!!

I think he should have sold the biscuit for pinks, there is a enemy evelynn on the map that is level 6, he should have 2 pinks in his inventory at all times when possible. Also if he needs to go back he can just tell the twitch he is going back and peace out since the start he should start roaming around especially seeing how twitch is playing.

i watched the video as an adc main to learn from my own mistakes! good video!!

‘Nautilus’ *Shows Blitzcrank multiple times*

4:49 maybe it’s not bad because it give the support gold which doesn’t matter, it lower the risks to give other people shut down But leaving that 4cs is just trolling

es estresante estar con un adc useless, yo nunca rotaba y eso me mantenía en platino luego dije " mejor roto y ayudo en otros lados" y así fue como subí a diamante y master 1lp xd pero cuando juegas con un buen adc, uffffff se siente tan bien, no digo que soy pro y todos podemos tener malas partida pero de que no sirva para nada a tener mala partida, son dos cosas distintas.

I just played a game where my adc misplayed and died 5 times because they'd just yeet in on 1 hp. I misplayed once which lead to a death and got spam pinged the rest of the game :). So after that I just roamed mid and helped jgl. We won and my adc had 17 deaths and 3 kills.

Some say toplane is hard. Some say Support is harder than Toplane. Then there's me, playing Soraka Toplane with Crown as first item

I am new to League and got Silver yesterday as a Support. Love it so far and i keep good vision up that saved our lifes very often tho. And i would have recalled right away after a kill and pushed wave. The wave will bounce anyway :) My ADCs often just Push and overstay the Lane, then they die and call me a bad Support :(

That's a nice Nautilus skin 1:50

So as far as other supports such as enchanters does this strategy still work?

If we can't help them get kills, they will end up sharing exp with us)) Also I wonder why enemy bot didn't get fed enough to carry the game, in 80% they become a problem and the game is still lost

I'm glad for some more support guides and this one was really informative. One thing I dislike is dunking on the Twitch player so much. We don't need more negativity in League. I don't think calling them an idiot was necessary. Nor was Twitch 'inting' either, he just didn't know better.

Was trying Pantheon Support for once and we got absolutely rolled, thought it was my fault but my Jinx finished the game with 0 kills....

4:52 min.: Looking for Nautis HP. Maybe go for some plates or somthing like this.

You should also explane why they would back there and to go for plaits since its pre min5 and theres no way they can get the plait … THATS why you should recall since all you are doing ist waisting time You will do more damage later to the tower and will have items so EVEN MORE damage to tower …aka more plaits aka more money:) Pls tell me if what im thinking is wrong :3

its masters elo a lot of people buy accounts, master elo now is like diamond 4 before

Whoever made that thumbnail deserves a raise, but of their lower jaw.

Much needed

I would like to know what to do as an ADC when I have a Nasus supp perma pushing my lane with E, or when I have the most conservative Brand saving his mana for retirement?

Honestly, bad ADCs are why i play hyper carry supports like xerath and lux, so even if the ADC isnt doing damage i am and i can help the team more

I'm so glad Lee came

When you dont know what the meaning of "inting" is but you keep using it.

First : dont play tank sup, dont play enchant sup, dont play catch sup, dont play cac sup, dont play heal sup. Second : play defensive dps, poke, clean wave, longue range safe support. Like zyra, seraphine etc. Third : Use TP and mana burn constantly to make a wall, and switch to carry other players when you have identified the good one, and tell your adc to folow tank. Ho and, dont forget to call him "coconut" in chat every time he die alone...

easy. tell them to build shieldbow ninja tabis death dance so they can survive 1 second longer

I know this is video commentary after the fact (not in-game chat), but it's an *instructional* video, and it's pretty irresponsible to not expect viewers to mimic the attitude in your commentary when they go play a game with your good advice. Twitch's plays throughout the video are bad, but you're calling them "int" and "run down" and "troll"; people who say that kind of thing *in-game* are *actually* griefing and ruin *far* more games than players like Twitch, who are only hurting their teams' win chances by *accident*.

great vid, learned a lot

But if you have a bad support all u can do is perma shove and hope he's not inting somewhere else

i love this guide! so much! but what to do when all lanes are behind? i just hate to give up then. can i as an ADC also gank top and mid when lane is lost? XD

i am in the hell elo platinum and i did all the thing you mention in the video already . but do you have a video about " carry the WHOLE shit load teamates as a support " ?

After 7 years as a support and never daring to rank and now playing adc cause nobody wants to......yeah I fucking suck. I must be iron

is swain viable to solo queue?

When this happens to me, unless the adc is just mad, i say an order like " let them push to us to gain advantaje here" nothing of "pls" or nothing like a "nonsense order", order and the reward, usually this players dont know why are they loosing and when you say this things they just follow, other scenario, instead of my toplaner and jungler i saying "get the herald/void things or gguard the herald" I say "the enemy jungle will be there in no time, be careful of the camp " this shows that u know what will happen and its not an direct order, all mid, jungler and top knows that getting the 3 void things is good for us and to prevent that they will keep an eye on it and because they know what will happen its easyer, if you ping or you make an order they will just ignore(again if the ally its just not mad in blind mode, they are humans and know that the odbectives are important, its just they are affraid/they dont know when is a good time to doit).

River shen: wait, you guy are laning ?

Don't play support in bronze/silver elo if you want to get out, it doesn't matter if you catch one or make a play because most of them are playing locked screen

Can you do a video about how to play vs some one better? Instead om smurfing in Low ELO and carry vs all the Noobs, tell us how to play if we (me B5) have to play vs a Smurf that are boosting his friends acc for example* Or even just an other Bronzeplayer that are a bit better at moving, sidesteping and CS. :)

99% of my games I literally run into this problem where the ADC is complete brainless trash and whenever I roam to another lane, that liner will start troll tripping and start a rally troll report against me and I end up getting three or four troll reports when I have never wanted to troll a day in my life there is literally nothing you can do in this game that can help anybody nor any kind of informational help because I’ve been doing this for years too many years to count and I get cursed out told to kill myself and reported after the game

Narrator fails to understand what "Inting" means here, similar to "trolling". Inting being short for intentionally feeding, not playing badly/making a mistake.

1:53 the blitzcrank coming back to lane in the animation when its a nautilus XD

instructions unclear, my mid inted

Thanks

They have Nautilus sup. Vs engage sup you freeze also you have engage sup so you freeze also enemy jungler is eve so your freeze. 3x freeze

I need to show this to my twin XD (we are duo botlane master elo and flame alot on eachother )

Honestly people need to give up trying to lane effectively in Bot SoloQ, unless you get an ADC who is 100% willing to co-ordinate and communicate you may as well either roam or only queue Duo Bot

A side-conclusion from this video is: don't pick utility supports (nami, lulu etc) if you're unsure your adc is good (which on low elo means never pick utility) saying utility I mean champions that have hard time ganking solo lanes.

3:00 yeah but how to do that on supports with no long range aoe poke or hard hitting autos(like soraka or thresh)? How to shove the wave solo against 2 champions with an item advantage?

See my problem is my adc doesn't even stay in the client long enough to "playe the game"

This is not the kind of its my adc makes. the int they do is having 0 lane pressure while having 100 farm in 20 minutes. Trying to play janna in bronze and I can assure u its easier in plat.

How about buff sp? How you can carry with buff

Are we just going to ignore that new naut skin (blitz)

1:41 Blitzkrank!? How'd they get in there?

that cass doe who rushed seekers arm guard against ap jg and mid

So, can you tell me without watching this video when I do this low elo mid and top start to troll as well and I am accused of trolling and cursed out repeatedly by three different people in chat the rest of the game. Needless to say that the Adc’s just keep shoving Lane and pretending I’m supposed to be down there dying to them and being their personal little slave, and killed for helping top and mid and being told I’m trolling to other people when doing this and it’s every single game

and im doing everything on this video and most of the time my team flames me for adc dying and all say report both at bot lane, and when i cant roam becosue all team ignore me and i get 5 reported for no reason. riot need to add reprot section "fake reporting for no reason"

Everytime I try to tell my team what to do and what not they don't listen to me. Even blaming me for losing the game cause i roamed and helped getting objectivs like herald and drake. Tho my junglers never seem to care about those since I´m the one warding them and telling the team when to contest and when not. Funny that my junglers 50% of the time don't even have smite up when they start those fights or are 2 levels behind the enemy jungler. So sad :c

great vid

I’m going to have to send this vid to my supports.

I gave up playing rakan in silver cause no one knows how to freeze wave and I simply can't rakan otherwise, pantheon support is insane though and I end up getting more kills than my adcs every game

But what about in wild rift and they over extend. And the teams is inting

does this thresh stream ?

Any tips when my adc is just running it down?

my biggest problem is that i 'throw my hands up and say screw it' way to quick