How to Change Oil and Filter Ford F-150 5.4L 2004-2008 

Good thing she doesn't exist lol Thanks for watching!

Very cool! Thanks for watching!

@@2carpros Is the oem drain plug on the 2005 f150 magnetic ? Thanks

Really?

Why ?

Use the manufacturer recommended 5-20. The Triton motor has an oil pump that is weak. In addition, the other reason that these engines have so many issues, is because the oil passages are small and become clogged. The thicker the oil, the quicker you will start to have issues.

Not really

@@brentbradley6711 so. I guess you'll put a 20w50 on it?

Glad you enjoyed it!

Always good to double check! Thanks for watching!

I just did this…

That's what I think too. Thanks for watching!

I swear youtube has saved me so much on mechanic fees. Thousands probably

sniffin glue I can I agree ☝️

Someone didn't watch to the end of the video! Thanks for watching. Always nice to have Ford Certified techs come in for a refresher :)

@@2carpros well i don't need to watch til the end on how to change oil. I'm well aware of how to do that.. I worked on engines, rear ends, t-cases over hauls, and everything in-between besides the trans.... a friend sent me this video and asked me if this was the proper way to change his own oil in which I enlightened him it was. Don't think my original comment was to be negative or rude to you or your channel. I was just trying to help others as well who may not know their 5.4 may take more then 6qts.

Bummer! Next time! Thanks for watching!

Nice! thanks for watching!

I say it at the end. 7 is just such an odd number I was suspecting 6. But I would always add up to a quart under then check it. It is way easy to add oil than it is to remove it. Thank you for watching!

2CarPros good video.

Somehow this doesn't surprise me. Every ford I have owned seems to take 1 quart more than what the manual says. It always made for an amusing exchange between myself and whoever changed my old Mustang's oil before I started doing it myself. "my computer says 5 quarts not 6" "No it's 6. trust me, I know more about my car than you do."

Depends what year the 5.4 is

Well Ford really dropped the ball with the 3v 5.4l. So we gotta improvise to make them last long as possible. Thanks for watching!

if you need to know where the drain plug is i dont think you should be changing your own oil

@@tvon4966 you're the problem if you actually believe that

Also 5/8” works on factory oil plug - nice and snug!

Thanks for that!

@@2carpros Yep! I saw that my Harbor Freight impact set had 15mm and 17mm - but not 16! LOLOL

Very nice! Thanks for watching!

Why would you do that. What's your motive? Why not use recommended specs for your engine

@@tomorrowcomestoday1621 The government plays a big part in it. Same engine in Mexico uses 10W-30.

How many L of oil you put in the motor ?

I'm very interested in how much oil you use? Any long term issues ? About to do my first oil change on my 06 f150 5.4L

What I'm saying is that 30 is thicker than 20, I'm comparing the hot viscosity of two different oils. The one that is on the cap and the one I'm choosing to use.

Thanks so much for watching!

Glad it helped!

Nice work!

Great advice this is what I'm going through now and am switching to 30now dropping my oil today

I'll take your word for it, just picked one up at auction going to do an oil change seems like others agree to do 5W-30 so i''ll do that!

Thank you!!! I've been trying to find the damn thing for 15 minutes

I even put 2 quarts of Lucas oil stabilizer in it now. Really seems to like it! Thanks for watching!

@@2carpros you have more nerve than I do, I don't add any fluids that weren't in the engine when it was new.

@@carlwheeler3403 Thats fair! I wouldn’t mind if mine had a big problem because then I can pull it and do a whole rebuild series. Normal I’m exactly the same as you. If ford didn’t put it in I’m not doing it. But on this older truck I was willing to roll the dice. Seems to really help and quiet things down.

Lucky dog! Thanks for watching!

Is that what has mine sounding like an old ragged out diesel lol?

Yeah 10 W 30 Pennzoil teams to do mine pretty good it runs pretty smooth

Nice work! Thanks for watching!

I removed the plastic air tube above it. It was one screw, and loosened filter from the top.

yup 7 quarts is what the 5.4 takes.

You're very welcome! Thanks for watching!

lol

It's just practice. Thanks for watching Slim!

Yep! The FL820S is a little wider of a body but the mounting surface and threads are the same. It is totally cool! Thanks for watching!

I would stick with what your doing 5w-20..... These 5.4 have very small oil ports that Sludge up and very poor factory oil pumps

@@kelvenguard There is nothing wrong with the oil passages. These engines sludge up from poor oil drain intervals and low quality aftermarket oil filters. 5w30 oil is fine to use.

@@dperr338 I have 39 years Auto-Body and I'm a GM/CHEV guy.... I have Three 2004 5.4 Fords in my Yard 2 with broken motors and the one with the highest Km at 380,000 Running Prefect my Nephews that he got off his Grampa has had 5W-20 from NEW... The Mechanics online say these have poor design heads with small oil ports that plug up and my friend said he replaced a Plastic oil pump for a steel one in his.... Put 80-90W GEAR Oil in it for all I care I'll stick with GM Trucks :)

@@dperr338 I traded my friend a Half finished 1987 Chev Show Truck for his 2004 Ford Lariat Loaded, the Cam Phasers went out TWICE at 280,000km he ran 5W-30... the REASON I did the Research.... SELLING the Ford with 5W-20 and buying a Nice GM or Chev... SEAFOAM the 5.4 before EVERY Oil change will help with sludge build also.... TONS of Videos on YT "WORST ENGINE EVER" is the 5.4 three valve from FORD !!!

@@kelvenguard 2004 was the first year they went to 3vs and cam phasers. They were the worst couple years for these trucks. 2008-2010 seem to be much better.

Now I put 10W40 and Lucas oil stabilizer in. But I can't say that officially due to internet armchair exerts.

I have a 2005 with 303,000 miles… still runnin BOY!!!!

A MIX BLEND?? Never heard of that one before. Be careful with that one. I’ve done motor craft synthetic oil 5-30 on my 04’ Lariat with 172,000 miles on the clock it runs fantastic

You can do it!

Oh yeah the only way to go! Thanks for watching!

How many miles have you got on it though? If it's below 200,000 then I wouldn't expect any problems with anything you use.

10w40 oil Is it suitable

It just might be! It needs tires though.

get the Goodyear duratracs that's what I got on mine

I was thinking those or Grabber X3s

yeah those are nice

Good work on finding this channel btw lol

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xLFn_bMkZc0.html Thanks for watching!

That's interesting. Does it maintain oil pressure? Thanks for watching!

Just fine. Been using it since this video was made and it's my daily driver. Thanks for watching!

Thanks for watching Jason!

I'm weak, don't judge me. Thanks for watching!

@@2carpros hahaha. fair enough. but you look like you could bench press a house

Lol thank you. The most I ever benched was 365. I doubt I could do that now. So I could probably bench a children's play house!

@@2carpros hahaha yeah a thought so to

I have never tried one, I have thought about buying one for use off camera. But I would never show it on camera because it is fairly expensive and I don't expect people to own something like that. Thanks for watching!

That's the oil I use and I tow all the time here in the desert. Should quiet down that sound a bit. Thanks for watching!

That might make US happier! But I assure you your engine wouldn't dig it. Thanks so much for watching!

BDR! BIG TIME!

I put 2 bottles of lucas in plus 5 quarts of 5W-30 these days. It's totally fine. Thanks for watching!

7 is correct. Put in seven. Thanks for watching!

What year is your 5.3. 3 valve ?

You are welcome!

I'm not sure I understand. Just get a larger sized socket and remove it. Thanks for watching!

Interesting. I have heard all kinds of tricks to keep the 5.4 going over the years. I always love reading them honestly. Thanks for watching!

@@2carpros well I made the mistake with Auto Zone telling me to put 6 quarts of oil in the 5.4 triton motor and I started getting a ticking noise than I did some in-depth research and found through the owners manel it takes 7.0 quarts and the ticking went away and the engine runs smooth and better gas mileage also from Esperance to through in a quart of full synthetic Lucas because of the way the timing chain and cam phasers are set up which they were right either way you can use the Lucas or step up the game and use the 5-30 weight oil the 5.4 triton is a good motor over all rated for up to or over 500.000 miles been proven

Thats a little too thick and hard on cold start ups in the 5.4 most damage to engines is at cold start ups

Jake Wright so they say the whole weak oil pump thing is a myth

@@Chase_01 you should only put 5 w 20 in the 5.4 engine it was not designed for 10 w 30 it's to heavy and will do damage on cold start ups and starve the engine I destroyed engines in the past using heavier oil

@@Wright10301973 America is the only country where 5w20 specified for the 5.4l 3v, due to CAFE standards. Everywhere else its 5w30.

​@@MattTigers There's so much debate over what measurement of oil should be used in the 5.4l 3v engine the reality that only matters is how often you change your oil thats what keep the engine running and lasting longer not the weight of the oil and besides there not much difference between 5w20 or 5w30 but that one will make it eat more gas the protection comes from how often you change the oil best to keep it as clean as possible

Yeah totally. I put two quarts of Lucas with 5 quarts of 5w30. Works great for me! Thanks for watching!

As long as it doesn't leak you are good. But as long as the metal washer is in good shape you are all good. Thanks for watching!

Yeah they make good filters, I just feel they are over priced personally. Thanks for watching!

It's much cheaper to do at home and you know the job is done right. Thanks for watching!

I'm so glad!

Take a water bottle tip it upside down, take the cap off. Observe what happens. Now apply that principle to an engine and oil. Might flow faster with the cap off but not by much. Thanks for watching!

Lol I’m trying to visualize your reply here. Because tipping a water bottle over and removing the lid is not the same as taking the oil cap off then the drain plug. Take the water bottle flip it and cut a hole in the top then take the lid off is way faster than not having a hole in the top. Lol

You are fine just draining and filling. After 2 changes it will be 100 percent flushed out with synthedic. Thanks for watching!

Yeah 5w-30 would be good. Thanks for watching!

Welcome!

6 quarts. Thanks for watching!

Thanks for watching!

Nice switch! Can't go wrong with full synthetic. Yeah it is really wide so it is hard to get a grip. No I don't have any rust there. A little on the roof due to the paint chipping off. Early 2000s paint is not so good due to new EPA standards that were introduced. Thanks for watching!

Why high mileage for?

@@dannyzamudio1252 They say there are extra additives in there to condition the seals so they don’t leak when cars get over 100,000 miles or so mine has 251,000 miles on it and I do not have too many leaks but I still use high mileage

7 quarts, thanks for watching!

I like full synthetic personally. Also a little thicker due to age and design but hey that's me. Thanks for watching!

@@2carpros I'd prefer full but since semi is all it's ever known my buddy said to just keep what's working. No cam chatter yet so I ain't changing its diet lol

@@metalgate1979 Fair enough! Don't fix what aint broke!

You will be a quart down and these engines really don't like to have less oil. Thanks for watching!

You could. I use 5w30 here in California. Thank you for watching!

@@2carpros what about 10 40???

@@Aaannngggeeeelllll57 you dont want to use 10-40. That's more for diesel engines. 10-30 is the highest you should go when it comes the gas engines

cordera zeno don’t go higher than 5w30 . Small fine passages to operate the VVT cam timing. Thicker is not better in modern engines.

@@johnoberle9750 that is true

Thank you so much for watching!

So that sludge builds up because of lack of oil changes. If you change it often with thicker oil you are probably better off. Thinner oil might not cut it, I don't know I'm not a mechanical engineer. Thanks for watching!

@@2carpros I have 39 years Auto-Body and do All my own mechanics... I have three 2004 5.4 in my yard 2 broken motors or cam phasers problems 250,000km & 300,000km... The One truck running prefect at 380,000km has had 5w-20 from New and I wouldn't say changed always on time knowing Grampa & my Nephew the 2 owners... Mechanics online say this is a Very Poor designed Engine with Very Small Oil Ports that plug up easy... My friend said the Factory Oil Pump is a Plastic Gear... Not sure about the plastic gear But Mechanics online say 5.4 have Very Poor Oil pumps... So I think its a Combo of Oil related problems that starve the Motor of oil... I like GM then Dodge Toyota Nissan etc, Ford would be Last on my list.... If I were to Buy one I would really look into the Oil problems BEFORE any issues appeared and Fix them and run the Lite oil 5w-20 with a Oil additive like the New Seafoam...

Check out Fordtechmakuloco on RU-vid. He is the internet guru on these 5.4 3v engines. He got Melling to make a hi-flo oil pump for this engine that solves the fail point with the cams.

@@eastbaygrease10 Thanks... I'm fixing the one XLT to resell and would like to sell a nice truck

If your getting a "thick Sludge" oil, it's mostly due to short trips. Condensation will start to build up from short trips causing a Sludge like oil. If you live more northern it's a common problem. Your better off doing oil changes every 3-5000 miles using 5W30.

Haven't experienced that. Does it feel like maybe the drive shaft slip yoke is binding in the transmission? I know that's common on these and it often feels like a violent stall. I have a great video on that if you need it. Thanks for watching!

2CarPros thank you for responding, it shaking really bad when stop its like the truck going to die, even worse when i turn the AC on,

So what does the slip yoke feels or looks like, i’ve already check out your slip yoke video, how can you tell if slip yoke need to be clean like you did in the video? Thank you, i subscribe 👍

yes, i have and you can google it the 5.4 triton sucks wind. cam phase issue I think. I am thinking of replacing it. the dealership want to sell you another engine but can't promise that it will fix it. I think ford is in serious need of a class action law suit, if one hasn't been already started. let me know what you find

I'd swap out the spark plugs and the ignition coils. The timing issues they apparently have would be the second thing I look at. Research removing the plugs, if it has a certain kind and they are the original, you need to get them hot, pull the coils, fill the spark pug channel with carb cleaner and then crack the plug back maybe 1/4 turn. Let it sit, then tighten down a hair, back out 1/2 turn, tighten down 1/4 turn, back out 1/2, tighten 1/4, etc until it is freed up. Think breaking the chip on a tap. The ceramic bit will shatter on those and then you have to buy a special tool to extract the broken plug bits. I did the soak then slowly remove method and all 8 came out no problem. Don't be afraid to use more carb cleaner after getting the plugs a little ways out if they feel really sticky.

This is a 5.4 Triton. So yes. Thanks for watching!

Nice! Thanks for watching!

I think it was a AirRaid system. I replaced it with a stock unit though. The truck was purchased 2nd hand with that intake installed. So I got a stock intake from LKQ and put it on. Thanks for watching!

I have an airaid system with synthetic filter (no oil) stock airbox custom tube no issues to speak of just wash and go

Mkay so while you are Googling things you might want to look up what the "W" stands for in oil. Because it isn't weight.

@@2carpros tee hee

@@jimdailey1985 why

We are going to rebuild this engine on a whole series at some point. Unfortunately I live in California and it wouldn't pass smog with the lockout. Thanks for watching!

@@2carpros we don’t have those pesky stipulations here in Missouri lol

I would replace all the coils too. But here is the thing with the 5.4L it has roller followers that go out all the time that might be your knocking sound.

That is very very close to 7 quarts. Thanks for watching!

@@2carpros made this comment before you ended up at 7 qts.

Orson Hornbeam That’s totally incorrect. The number before the W is the cold viscosity. The number after is the warm viscosity. That’s the main reasoning for multi grade oils. The thinner or lighter weight oil helps to aid in cold starts As the motor warms up the additives thicken the oil to the proper operating viscosity.

@@ponderthisfamily2126 You're correct. I always assumed it was vice versa. My error.

Orson Hornbeam Because that’s the idea and why multi grade oil was engineered in the first place. The W stands for winter and is the weight of the oil at cold temp. Google it if you still doubt it.

If they are both synthetic, yeah. Thanks for watching!