The One Fatal Flaw that is Destroying the Ford 5.4L 3v Triton Engines!

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In this video we try to remind all Ford F-150 & Expedition 5.4L 3v Triton owners to listen to the warning sounds coming from your engine!
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@FordTechMakuloco 2 года назад

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@cheapers1952 2 года назад

Hello this comment has nothing to do with your video right here right now but what it's worth I have 50 years under the belt ASE master technician 35 plus years do you work on older Ford models and for what it's worth I'm just curious what do you feel about electric cars versus hydrogen fuel cards that is going to be the way of the future!! Just curious I know that you are a top notch person as far as it is to working on automobiles I see that you prefer the Fords which I can understand that so if you wouldn't mind shooting us at least a short response back to me that would be absolutely great

@HCW2855HCW 2 года назад

Also I assume the 2 valve uses different roller followers. I found this statement: You need to focus on the rubber insulation that goes over the spark plug. If there is a bend there, you have a 2 valve engine. Where the coil is straight, you have a 3 valve engine. I will have to look at mine.

@armandocarriedo9354 2 года назад

Hey Brian does this apply for the 4.6 v8 triton engine. If so can you send me the part number so I can get them through Amazon. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving Brian to you and you family.

@armandocarriedo9354 2 года назад

2 sets that's 24 pcs all together?

@elparasito2001 2 года назад

Hi! Brian, which 5.4 3v engine do you recommend between Jasper or powertrain? Thanks in advance!

@louisd4928 2 года назад

Last Sunday, truck began hesitating on highway. My daughter got out that night and asked " Is your truck supposed to make that noise? " Pulled valve cover last night, confirmed bad cam follower, and you post this video today, so thanks! And thank you for all your great videos!

@cddavon 2 года назад

How did it hesitate? I had my truck hesitate and then go back normal about 1 week ago

@packman3220 2 года назад

He's not lying. I bought my wife a 2013 Expedition. We had cold start misfires at about 130,000 miles. We took it to one mechanic and he said we needed new coils and plugs ($600) it didn't fix it. 4 months later we took it to a second mechanic and he did a compression test and sensor inspection ($300) he said it wasn't anything to worry about. We drove it for another 2 years like that. I finally saw one of his videos and opened the cam head myself. Sure enough it was the roller follower. I got the part from my local Ford dealer for $6. Runs like new now. We were very lucky.

@keithalexander36 2 года назад

same with my 3V. started with a cold start misfire and no taps. Then it would only tap some times when hot. took forever to find the problem this is before he even started covering this issue. it wasn't until the roller started to show scaring (5k mile later) that i found the problem. Next time ill remove camshaft and check or replace all the followers.

@jsant24 2 года назад

Those misdiagnoses from those two “mechanics” ought to tell you a lot about them.

@jasona8964 2 года назад

How many miles did you put on between buying it and fixing it?

@packman3220 2 года назад

@@jasona8964 about 15,000

@boostedbadboyzx12r31 2 года назад

@@jsant24 most so called " mechanics " are just glorified parts changers.

@joehines8140 2 года назад

My 2006 F-250 has 222,000 miles. I've changed oil and filter about every 3000 miles. After watching the channel I sent the truck to the shop for all front end engine parts. The valve cover, drivers side, was removed and one roller follower has laying on the head. The engine never has a miss. just a "slight" ticking sound. Of course the chain followers were shot as well. I can't say enough good things about this channel and the information and assistance it it has given me. My advice to anyone with a well maintained 5.4 3v is to replace followers at 150k. By the way I drove 300mi the previous week on the interstate. and never detected a problem. Just good fortune.I guess. All ford parts are going back in.

@LitheInLitotes Год назад

ford is trash

@theshield1613 Год назад

3,000 is the legit number to make the 5.4l v8 3v last

@mickeyshooter5298 11 месяцев назад

Would one bad follower in and of itself cause a code other than a misfire? Say, a p0012? I had multiple misfire codes, along with a p0012. I changed out the plugs and coils, they all went away and p12 remained. I’m not really getting any timing noise, just a slight rattle which I believe to be a roller, and a p0012 code. 🤷‍♂️

@user-yw5fl1db5u 7 месяцев назад

Yeah but it's not hard to miss the tick if you don't leave the truck mine is a higher trim and you can't hear the noise from inside the cab, so naturally I was scared when I heard a clunking noise followed by the truck running like crap, but now I know, but it having a lack of power could have also been my bad cats as its needed new ones for the past 100k so uhh my truck is sitting in my driveway right now.

@Lindrios 7 месяцев назад

Man I wish i had the money to do that! All I can do is switch to 5w-30 and pray

@delbirky4163 2 года назад

Sold my 5.4 with 250k miles on it still running strong thanks to you. I still watch these videos even tho I don't have a 5.4.

@KollynJ 2 года назад

How many times did you do these lash adjusters or full timing?

@delbirky4163 2 года назад

@@KollynJ I never did. But I bought it with 200k on it so it could have been done but it didn't look like anybody had been in the motor.

@WhiskeyRiverRifleman 2 года назад

Long-time subscriber here I love your videos and on that note I will tell you this. I am a master technician ase-certified. I own a 2008 Ford F150 with the dreaded 5.4 3 valve. At 173,000 miles I decide to yank the motor and rebuild it. I sent the motor to my friends machine shop where it was bored out 30 over and line bored for a new crankshaft. I got the block back with a new Pistons installed with the crankshaft and then installed brand new camshaft, roller lifters and the cam phaser lockouts. I also installed the Paxton Supercharger and let me tell you what boys she smokes 5.7 hemis, 6.2 Chevy's. whatever is put in front of her she destroys.

@carado1984 2 года назад

Weird that your supercharged engine beats other stock NA engines. I've never heard of that before.

@tonyackerman4716 2 года назад

I had a roller follower in the same position as this go bad very quickly at 180k miles. I swapped all the followers on that side and put a new cam in just for insurance. I am now at 242k miles and going to replace all the followers on the other side. And yes...i still have all my original timing set. My engine doesn't make much noise at start up or warm idle. switching to 5w-30 motorcraft oil years ago and being religious with oil changes has helped tremendously.

@rickwalt8767 2 года назад

Thanks for posting this video. I’m the original owner of a 2007 Ford F-150 4x4 Crew Cab with the 5.4 Triton engine . It only has 50,000 miles on it so far. Luv the truck. I knew about the original spark plug plug issue but haven’t heard about the roller followers till now. Will be paying more attention to any strange sounds. Good info. Thanks again.

@M_u_t_e96024 Год назад

Only 50k? 0.o my 2003 is 240k+ no issue besides 4wd went out once and bed corners r rusty

@jacobaccurso 2 месяца назад

Oh my God. There should be a placard in every vehicle with this engine, alerting the owner to this issue. All the placard has to say is, “Listen for tapping sounds. If you hear them, tell your mechanic to check the roller followers.“ Critical information here. Thank you for posting! Now I’m going to go fire up my pick up and begin my new listening habit.

@nicholasali2182 Год назад

SOME OF THE BEST FORD 5.4 3V CONTENT 💯 MUCH RESPECT FROM CANADA 🇨🇦

@tkania8888 2 года назад

You have helped me COUNTLESS times with my F150. Thank you!!!!!!!

@KM-bt1od 2 года назад

Bought A used 140k 2013 retired Sheriff's Expedition with the 5.4 3V. Noticed A soft ticking when buying it but my brother in law encouraged that it was not abnormal.. said his f150 made A similar piston slap noise and he has over 240k on it. Got real loud suddenly within about 1200 miles of owning it. Driving it home for the appointment Monday from visiting family and the roller follower sheared off and it sounded like A major league pitcher threw A nickel into A glass jar at mach speed. It was the valve dropping and bouncing around and then getting spit into the intake manifold. Pulled over asap.. and thumbed A ride off the hill. I took the engine apart down to the pistons... cracked. After some deliberation, and A non functioning used engine that had to be refunded... I just dropped A remanufactured Engine into it. But this is no joke. Happened to me. Listen for the ticking and just take care of it.. Just like he's saying. Cheers

@MrTruckerf 2 года назад

Boy, the cops knew when to get rid of it!

@BlownF150 2 года назад

Wish you'd get more 2V 5.4L's in, I guess it's a testament to their durability they don't seem to frequent your shop as much as the 3V's and other late-model engines.

@mph5896 2 года назад

I have never even heard of a 5.4 2v being apart.

@billgateskilledmyuncle23 2 года назад

They're simpler, have solid sprockets on the cam.

@UnderSprayedWhiteSkies 2 года назад

A couple years ago my buddy delivered a utility trailer to me in east central Arizona from Billings, MT. His truck had this tick, he made it here, and back w/his truck sounding exactly like Brian describes. I couldn't believe his luck. When he said the Ford dealer told him he needed a new engine, I knew they were spending his $$ unnecessarily. Now I REALLY know he could have fixed it w/much less expense.

@matthewstraight1803 2 года назад

hey bubba, I just bought a 2004 FX4 5.4 Triton motor or truck and it had no oil. I put the 520 in it and now it's making that knock on this video. thank you very much for the update. you are an awesome person

@ftby59mikeD 2 года назад

Great info here, I've owned no less than four 5.4's ranging in years from '01 thru '06 and never encountered this problem. Catastrophic failure for sure, good advice taking care of it as preventative maintenance regardless of mileage & oil change frequency 👍

@JP-wp1vi 2 года назад

I’m pretty sure they didn’t make ‘em with 3 valves until 06 or after

@housepumpinpc3983 2 года назад

@@JP-wp1vi 05 Expedition with 5.4l 3v. I don't know about 01 but certainly 05.

@geraldhenrickson7472 2 года назад

Perhaps you have had 2V engines. It has spark plug issues but it seems nothing else…so far. This channel has a good tutorial on replacing plugs in a 5.4 L2V

@housepumpinpc3983 2 года назад

@@geraldhenrickson7472 the timing chain guides are garbage in a 5.4l. I'll take the drop in power of the 4.6l. Besides the spark plugs blowing out, I love the 4.6l...

@hoost3056 2 года назад

What oil did you use?

@jeromepedersen5535 2 года назад

Another great video! After watching several of your videos, i feel extremely lucky that i have 300k on my 08 navigator. My AC finally went out, and i suddenly remembered that even though id always taken care of my engine, i had totally forgotten the timing job. So after watching those videos, my AC job has turned into pretty much an overhaul! Lol. Timing, water pump, oil pump, AC, plugs, injectors, and now roller followers! 😱 very glad to have your videos to help me out!! Thank you!

@jetson2075 Год назад

Id rather pay somebody 3k in labour than have my head stuck under a bonnet

@DangerRanger89 2 года назад

We have an all original 5.4 in our 2004 F250, it has 400k and keeps trucking. The majority of our fleet is 5.4’s or 7.3’s. Thanks for the info, we definitely need to check a couple out!

@FordTechMakuloco 2 года назад

@truthsmiles 5 месяцев назад

My son bought a “rough running” 2005 Mustang GT (which has the 4.6, but same design as this). We knew it needed a cam phaser so we opened it up and found one of the followers laying on top of the head, same rounded off intake love you showed. Very luckily, the valve was still in place and a compression test showed even pressure across all cylinders. New cam, phasers, all new roller followers, and timing set, and the thing runs like a dream. My own personal theory is the timing guides breaking off and getting sucked into the pickup tube really killed the oil pressure and at least partially caused the havoc.

@mattwaters6987 3 месяца назад

This is such a great channel for us 5.4 3v Triton owners. Many thanks for the information. 👍

@michigandogman3060 Год назад

Someone is gifting me a 2005 expedition which is rust free and runs excellent! Thank you so much for this info because most people just say those engines are junk which is not true. Fairly simple fix that will save thousands 👍🏻

@miketeeveedub5779 2 года назад

I remember in the 80s when roller rockers first started coming into use on the Mustang and Corvettes. I thought it was great how racing tech made its way into mass production. Now 30+ years later, as great as they are at reducing high-speed friction and raising the rev zone, they do introduce more "wear complexity" into an already complex environment. Maybe stamped ball-type rockers weren't so bad to begin with...

@FishFind3000 2 года назад

Only issue is then you gotta check and readjust your valves every so often.

@jeremiahlf 2 года назад

@@FishFind3000 Better than replacing them or massive failures.

@mercedes-amgforlife3237 2 года назад

Corvette's didn't get factory roller rockers until 1996 and that was only in the optional LT4. In 1987 Corvette got roller lifters. When the LS1 debuted in 1997 is when roller rockers became standard. The LS's have issues with the trunion bearings failing. Not sure what year the Mustang got roller rockers in the push rod engines. Roller rockers are fine, but it seems like so much stress has been added to them to meet performance that they fail early, and also the budget cost materials the corporate bean counters rely on.

@kevinbarry71 2 года назад

Nonsense. Those components work flawlessly in the products of other companies. Toyota, etc. Ford just can't seem to figure it out. Just keep pretending it isn't the problem that Ford created

@garymcmullin2292 2 года назад

well they are a different breed if cat but those designs were fulcrum mounted or shaft mounted and that is a very different form of load stress in my way of seeing it. And the modern oil weights do not help the extreme forces applied on these valve followers either, they need a heavier oil film in those needle bearings. Overall the ford problem is mostly just one of under designing for the stresses to be endured.

@jimsvo4486 2 года назад

Good advice. I always tell people to listen at cold start to all their cars. If it sounds like two skeltons screwing on a tin roof, get it checked out.

@wvenn37 7 месяцев назад

😂

@spookyskeleton216 6 месяцев назад

💀😂

@mr.koivisto6975 2 года назад

Don’t even own a Ford but watch your videos. Love your skill and honesty. Have my eyes on a Maverick though. What’s your opinion on it?

@michaelmailes7974 2 года назад

Had this exact issue on our 2012 Expedition. Took it to dealership three times and not once did they recommend stopping driving until fixed. One dealership had it three days and said they couldn’t find anything wrong with it. Told a different dealership we were bringing it to them the next Monday until they could figure it out … rocker failed the day before and it came apart dropping the valve exactly like what happened here. Luckily we had bought the extended warranty from Ford to 100,000 miles and we were only at 93k when it blew. Saved us 8k for a new engine. Funny part was the warranty wanted to reinstall 7 of the 8 old (unaffected) spark plugs into the new engine so of course we paid ‘extra’ to buy all new plugs.

@shawnmason5290 2 года назад

I wish you would’ve posted the extended service contract company’s name.

@brianstough5286 2 года назад

How many TRITON engines 'just made it" past the warranty period before this and all the other issues were "figured out"??? Remember the first 5 or 6 years on the spark plug thread issue? The "easiest way" to fix it was to pull the head(s) - and the fastest way to do that was to remove the cab?!? (whole body if an expedition)? But, there are still people that swear by ford, even though they've been ripped off so badly!?!?!

@mph5896 2 года назад

I would have told them to feel free to reinstall all the old plugs.

@ThisTimeTheWorld 2 месяца назад

@@brianstough5286 swear at Ford, Chevy, and anything else I have to drive. I can't afford a new one for sure so I just do the best I can.

@nanooseguy327 Год назад

my 2005 Ford Expedition with the 5.4 Triton had this exact problem at about 150K miles. It had been "ticking" like this for about a year. My son was using it on a camping trip when things really went south. He drove it back to town knowing it was "sounding worse" but thought he could make it back. He did .. barely. A new (used) 5.4 engine from a 2009 Ford was found at a wrecker. It has been in there for about 7 years now and is running great. No tick, lol. It cost Dad ... 8 grand. yikes ...

@terrywhite4037 2 года назад

Just based off your videos, even though I don't hear anything ticking, I am going to replace them because I have 165,000 miles on the engine. Thanks for your videos!! Your a blessing to us truck owners and because times are very tough financially right now, I hope you understand the magnitude of how much you have blessed your viewers with the knowledge and expertise to work on their own vehicles! Wished I lived closer, but I live near Atlanta, GA.....This channel is my goto for my 2006 F150 XLT, 5.4L 3V!! Thanks!

@toniavery7866 Год назад

Mine too...I have 06 5.4...262,000 miles...I'm broke and have no choice but to tackle this myself...pray for me...

@ernestoperez6785 Год назад

Yep. I would do the same. What happened to our f150 05 was when my girlfriend at the time was mad at me and didn't want me to touch her truck, so she had Walmart do the oil change but after a week I heard how the engine was straggling and not even a block away when she picked me up I told her to pull over to check the iol, it was bone dry. After that even when I put iol in it it just seized. 😭

@Ej6daniel Год назад

@@toniavery7866You got this man! 🤙

@albduke 8 месяцев назад

Sell it I'm selling mine

@ghghj4700 4 месяца назад

@@albduke I'll buy lol I'm in midwest

@JohnJohn-nh5mj Год назад

Wow , I got a f150 4.6 and never thanks God has a y issues, was thinking to buy another truck 5.4 but I see does truck has this problem with the followers rollers, this guy is so good explaining everything that u got a super like n a subscription!, GOD BLESS YOU.

@kat2641 2 года назад

If the old boy is old like me(65) we were raised with solid lifters an then hydro. Light tapping is normal so no sense in getting worried.. lol an I am betting if he had any mechanical knowledge of the old school engines that is why he didn’t have it checked out. Right away. BUT I was not aware of the newer changes in rocker arms. So I learnt a valuable lesson here coz my last truck had that before a head on Deer crash total the truck.. So the tapper noises on these engines are a cry for help! Ten 👍 up for this video!!!!!

@FordTechMakuloco 2 года назад

Yup the newer engines should not have a noise like this no matter the brand.

@janderson8401 2 года назад

I’m not quite that old yet. Having worked about 40 years in construction I find that I don’t always hear the clicking of the turn signals if the radio is on. From what I read younger people are doing just as much damage to their hearing by listening to loud music using earbuds. In short the owner might not have realized the valve train noise was as bad as it really was.

@MrTruckerf 2 года назад

@@janderson8401 I HEAR ya! I am 67 and the noise would have to be real loud for me to notice. I occasionally take someone with good hearing along to see if they hear something I don't.

@cwick72 2 года назад

Glad I found your page. I’ve got the ticks and sluggish running in my 05. Your videos pretty much give me what to expect if I want to repair or just start planning for a new truck and drive it till it’s toast

@alpaca7886 2 года назад

I no longer have my F150, but I still enjoy your videos. When I sold the the truck, I wrote down the information to your channel for him to reference. There were so many helpful tips in your videos I was able to do more repairs than I ever though was possible, thanks!

@EM-df6mo Год назад

Excellent video sir. I'm sitting at 140,000 and they're quiet for now. One more thing to check when changing oil and doing maintenance. Thanks for the heads up I'd much rather replace those early and avoid the issue.

@FiresideCoffee 2 года назад

I don’t even own a Ford and I love watching these videos. Thank you for your thorough explanations. There isn’t another channel on RU-vid that is so informative in this genre. Now, if I could only find a decent Dodge tech on RU-vid lol.

@stephensimpson2717 Год назад

Just lost my engine last week. I am pretty sure this was the cause. 2013 Expedition with 237,000 miles. This was my 3rd Ford Expedition with a Triton engine and never had a problem before. Had to sell it for salvage given the expense of replacing the engine on such a high milage vehicle. I am very attuned to my vehicle’s performance and took meticulous care of it. Never allowed an oil change to go beyond 4,000 miles. In my case, I picked up on the ticking sound just one day prior to the the engine failure. I drove it very cautiously hoping to get it back home and into the shop. 45 minutes into the return trip home, it blew on the interstate in Michigan. It was a gamble and I lost on this one. My recommendation is get it to a shop immediately if you hear the tell tale sound. Thanks for the video.

@cullenmiller8170 2 года назад

Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I have a 2001 2 valve 4.6 in my car, but it's nice to learn more about the newer engine that has such a bad reputation, because most people aren't doing the proper maintenance. I guess the mechanic in a bottle snake oil won't fix that failure. ;-)

@WhyBeNick 2 года назад

The newer ones added some complexity and more maintenance comes with that, but those 2 valves are bulletproof. My favorite engine by a mile.

@bubba99009 2 года назад

This one was clearly properly maintained and still blew up the triton has a bad rep because it has several different design defects.

@CrystalynnJensrud Год назад

Damn, I love y’all guys. Been watching for years now. Thank you for all y’all do on RU-vid. Y’all are really a life saver. Much appreciated

@tooltime5661 2 года назад

Easy repair! Keep your oil and service up these engines are bulletproof!!!! You hear a tic or tap,check it out. Was a Ford tech 12 years, 6.8 and 5.4, 2 and 3 valve V10 Triton in the F53,E-450 Motor home chassis! 150 200K very rarely opened a engine. This guy is a honest Tech,very knowledgeable!

@jhitt79 Месяц назад

“These engines are bulletproof”😂🤣

@mr.fixitt4281 2 года назад

Thank you thank you thank you. I’ve been ignoring that tapping for quite a while now and have been considering the timing job, but the tapping has been getting worse. Mine has 225K on it (work truck) and has been religiously maintained. I’ve Parked the truck for now until I can take after the timing chains and most likely the cam. Last summer I repainted and rebuilt the box roof door etc. can’t thank you enough!!!!!

@SangheiliSpecOp 2 года назад

Thank you for these videos. I have a 2008 Mustang GT (I always comment this on your vids haha) and it has the 3v 4.6 liter which is pretty much the same engine as the 5.4 so I always pay attention when you post these. I have had my rollers tick loudly on two occasions and immediately replaced them. I always have spare rollers at home, as well as the special tool on hand to replace them on short notice. I've also retimed the engine and replaced phasers a couple of times (with all Ford parts!) thanks to your videos. 215k miles and still being driven in a spirited manner on a 91 octane tune every day with no issues :)

@egmac100 2 года назад

I have 2005 Mustang Saleen with the 4.6l 3V. What mileage should these followers be replaced? Was going to do them with the chains and phazers at 100k.

@SangheiliSpecOp 2 года назад

@@egmac100 Saleen huh? Nice. I don't really have a technical answer for your question, i'm at 215k and i'm actually on 90% original followers if you can believe that. I bought the car with around 85k miles on it already and I highly doubt the previous owner replaced anything. I only had to replace the two I mentioned, and both times, they made a really really loud tapping noise, louder than anything else in the engine by almost twice as much, and I would immediately shut the engine back off and replace them in my driveway when that happened so its never escalated from there. If you are not one to go inside of your engine a lot and want to do it all at once, and have the cash and time to spare, then I guess you could do it for piece of mind. The specialized tool (part number OTC 6684) is a must, and one thing to make sure of though, as Brian has mentioned in some of his other videos, is to make sure the keepers are going down as you use the tool to push the spring down, because if they stay up, you can drop a valve into the cylinder which would not be fun.... As for the phasers, I recommend only the ford parts, and might as well replace the vct solenoids too if you really are going for all new components, but its not necessary. As for the timing components, one thing I can recommend to you is the metal racheting timing chain tensioners off of the older mustang GT models (ford part numbers F6AZ-6L266-DA (RH) and F6AZ-6L266-CA (LH)) as they have a ratcheting design and actually stay extended even when your engine is turned off. This will eliminate the chain rattle you may hear with the plastic, non-racheting tensioners that came with our cars, which use oil pressure to extend and become untensioned when the engine is off. I also recommend 30 weight oil instead of the 20 weight that ford recommends in their manual, the engines were designed for 30 weight but Ford stated 20 weight for emmissions purposes.

@michaelmartinez1345 2 года назад

@@SangheiliSpecOp great advice!!! One thing that I noticed about the newer vehicles that are now using these really thin/low viscosity (sewing machine) oils, is the highly stressed parts such as the valve train components, seem to be wearing out more rapidly... I like your suggestion of going with a higher viscosity oil...

@lard1892 2 года назад

No issues?????

@SangheiliSpecOp 2 года назад

@@lard1892 thats right yo, almost 220k now

@5jjt 2 года назад

Dodge's 3.6L Pentastar engine also suffers from early rocker failure. Mine ticked so loud that I thought I had a rod bearing going bad. The noise was much louder near the oil pan under the van, and was much quieter above at the top of the engine. I was amazed I didn't have a bad rod bearing.

@michaelmurray121 2 года назад

Blood Sweat and Gears Happy thanksgiving Brian another great lesson on the 5.4 3v peace n love ❤️

@christopherirwin934 Год назад

Just bought a 2008 F150 XLT with the 5.4L Triton and has 188k miles on it. It runs great so far, will keep an ear out for that roller follower ticking on the passenger side wheel well. Super useful, thanks for this.

@victorjcastillo2369 Год назад

Nice! How much did you purchase it for?

@SanchoGracie 2 года назад

The Triton tick explained. My Expie with 275k just broke into tears.

@2A_Patriot Год назад

I’ve already had the followers replaced on both sides along with the cams. Hopefully that should be a one and done since they were only done in the last two years. (Phasers were checked on both sides and they were in good shape.) I had this done at a Ford Motorsport dealer - one that I know and trust. The service manager is a good friend of mine and he’s the only previous owner on my 2007.

@rosewd2 2 года назад

At what mileage should the roller followers be changed? For 9.79$ each, I'd change out the set to be safe.

@josecora1917 Год назад

I change my roller rockers at 50,000 miles, an engine running perfect, no noise whatsoever and found 3 roller rockers starting to wear, using Mobil one oil. Probably it will run to let say 80 and after that will destroy. Hopefully i cacht it on time. Now at 100,000 miles i will do a timing chain with everything and my engine will Last anothers 100,000 miles more. Will change oil to Amsoil to see what happen.

@RK-db4oq 2 года назад

My 5.4L 3v went 230,000 miles with no engine repairs (except mass airflow sensor) before I donated it to charity. As far as I know it's still running. Key is regular oil changes with good oil. I did mine every 5K miles.

@sirhc07 2 года назад

I do mine ever 3k with 5w30 opposed to 5w20

@hauloffjunkremoval8304 2 года назад

@@sirhc07 why 30?

@jetson2075 Год назад

@@hauloffjunkremoval8304 More protection. Makers are using thinner and thinner oils to meet environmental targets, there not trying to make your engine last longer

@Reactor7392 Год назад

So far on my 2003 3V 5.4L (from inside the cabin) oem miles 199,943.0; there's no ticking yet! The oil, compression rings are good, even the roller bearings are not sounding. Because I'm using 75k high mileage oil mixed with a metal conditioner (energy release). I'm currently in the process of becoming a master mechanic like you; Before i take the actual certification test to make my unique DNA given ability a license.

@bobbytrigo940 2 года назад

Man buddy I can’t thank you enough for all that info. I had to learn the hard way also. Now after watching this I understand what’s going on inside of the engine. I also heard this ticking and took it in to a mechanic and was told it was normal for these engines if it got worse to bring it in. Well I did and bam got a new engine now. Anyhow thanks for all the information now I can tell the mechanics what needs to be done.

@peterstubbs8587 2 года назад

I have this exact same sound, and having some engine timing issues. I'm getting this done! Thanks so much for this video. I was about to have all of the timing components replaced. So now I'll be sure to have these parts replaced!

@jetson2075 Год назад

Just the timing chain set here in Australia is a 3000 Aussie dollar job. Very expensive, at the moment I only have timing chain slap at idle. Once the revs rise just a little it goes away, and the engine is quite as a mouse

@peterstubbs8587 Год назад

@@jetson2075 I had mine looked at. Mine needed them replaced, and much more...

@jetson2075 Год назад

@@peterstubbs8587 How many miles has your car done Peter

@peterstubbs8587 Год назад

@@jetson2075 I bought the truck with 167,000 miles. By the time it reached 175,000 the issues were very noticeable. $10,600 later....now it's running smoothly.

@chewie3977 Год назад

@@peterstubbs8587 10,600, that's 16000 Aussie dollars, that's crazy, I think I might sell mine, before it cost me an arm and a leg.

@coryfriction2499 2 года назад

Can you do a video on just forscan for some us dummies. Run the test properly and why to run test. I feel like you could do a really nice video on it.

@FordTechMakuloco 2 года назад

I will one day but the program is pretty basic, I use the Ford IDS in my videos.

@coryfriction2499 2 года назад

I feel that you already have enough video. Just hard to find I all the videos. Maybe a play list of what you have already is good enough. Thanks for all the help! Much appreciated!

@volvo09 2 года назад

The stuff you see in his videos is not "forscan". It's the official ford subscription based diagnostic program the dealerships use.

@coryfriction2499 2 года назад

@@volvo09 ok that makes sense. Just got forscan and was looking for tutorial videos, and most of what I have found is mods not troubleshooting issues. Or really bad videos. Thanks!

@volvo09 2 года назад

@@coryfriction2499 pretty sure modifications is the main purpose of that software, not diagnosis. If it does diagnosis it's probably not much more than a basic code reader or data logger. Probably try doing some searches for "forscan diagnostics" and whatnot, because as you found out 99% will be results for people trying to modify their vehicle. There is other laptop based diagnostic software that may be better suited to diagnostics than forscan... But this is just from what I have experience with, the tuning software I have for my Honda is no good at all for diagnostics, just dataloging (which is great if you know what you are trying to prove / diagnose) and code reading.

@antoniopowell2545 Год назад

I have a 2012 Expedition. At 180k miles and Just started getting check engine light randomly.. took it to the dealer and came back with internal timing being off. They told me it's best to replace motor... spoke to a local mechanic (kinda like you) who specializes in Ford performance, and in the process of describing to him what was going on he immediately told me what the issue is. Say it's a very common problem with those triton 5.4... All in all, he says those are really good motors and can last up to 400k miles IF you can catch those issues before they destroy the block. I feel soo much better now about my ride and plans to have him work on it. Will probably buy another and maybe an f150 with a v8

@trimflex9554 2 месяца назад

Just drove from Kentucky to Florida for vacation and midway through my trip I heard that dreaded tick from my 2014 expedition. Getting it fixed as soon as I get back.

@jefflochner5972 2 года назад

I'm coming up on 290,000 on original 5.4 in my 2008 Expedition, and running just fine thanks to FTM!! I am always assessing my engine sounds. I just hope I can differentiate this follower tick from the fuel injectors and other normal sounds. I've heard an occasional extra very slight tick come and go, day to day. I wonder about the timing chain stuff, too. This truck is primarily my RV puller and occasional around town trips. The rest of the truck is exceptionally good, worth buying any new engine parts it ever needs. What is the best way to assess the follower lash, have a shop pull the valve covers?

@dannyswortzel2327 2 месяца назад

Thankyou for what you do. Wish I could shake your hand.

@fortunatedad7695 Год назад

At what mileage do you typically see them needing a major repair? My 2012 lincoln navigator is at 260,000km and she runs silky smooth.

@kristopherdetar4346 Год назад

Mine has been ticking for nearly 70,000 miles. Still pulling strong.

@ShersGarage 2 года назад

Exactly what happened to my truck. Previous owner ignored everything. When we took it apart, valve was nowhere to be found. Parts of it launched into the intake manifold. Rest went out the exhaust

@bartphillips6391 2 года назад

Engines tell you things. Just have to pay attention. Great video. Most won't learn though.

@dennisrogers8107 2 года назад

Would love to have seen a scope view down through that open intake port to see how grarled up the piston and cylinder were.

@ScoundrelOffRoad 5 месяцев назад

I should have replaced my rocker followers and cam shaft when I did my CVT valve over the winter. But got lazy and needed to get my truck back on the road. Ended up doing a trans filter change and bulk connecter sleeve replacement. Got it running but a caliper is sticking... I'll be checking that this week. It's also shifting really hard in 4 low. Hoping that goes away once I start driving it more. I had to put in almost 10 quarts after the trans filter change. (6 speed trans). 2010 F150 FX4 5.4 V8.

@Obamaistoast2012 10 месяцев назад

My 5.4L 3v just hit 400.000 regular maintenance, still runs good.

@marlonsedano9749 6 месяцев назад

Got one 1999 with 389,000! You gotta baby them and be handy with a wrench but they’ll last!

@411sponge72 Месяц назад

That's great to hear! I've got a 2006 F150 5.4L with 30,000 miles

@mattp1333 Месяц назад

Mines at almost 300k just threw timing chain and the rest at it about 80k miles ago. Had to lock out cam phasers.

@tongtongwang 16 дней назад

which year?

@lookingupwards8652 Год назад

Thank you for taking the time to educate people.

@adventuredad1614 Год назад

How do you find someone willing to change them. Shops around me don’t want to deal with it/the liability

@jefferypatanella2884 Год назад

I ha e 375k miles on my expedition and I'm getting that noise. I love this engine I replaced timing at 250k and oil pump just because I had it open. Everything else is original. Guess it's time for a rebuild

@carbonkings6272 2 года назад

I ignored my engine and I’m pretty positive that it was my cam phaser that failed but I didn’t have the money to fix it my mechanic told me there’s no telling what damage has already been done to this motor the best thing to do is to get a new motor so just drive it until it fails and I was running a business with it and I towed a 50,000 pound yacht 89 miles across Texas and drove back home it wouldn’t drive over 45mph but it got the job done and got me a lot of money to pay for college and i don’t know another truck 1500 v8 that can do that with issues like my ford

@KollynJ 2 года назад

50,000 ibs? Lol what’s the tongue weight like on that

@frugalprepper 2 года назад

I am glad I chose the 4.2 when I bought my F150. 513K miles, 20 years, and I never kept up with the oil changes like I should have. Fords - They don't make em like the used to.

@likesbikes77 2 года назад

Well crap. The first 3:30 describes me. 179,000, took care of the oil, original timing parts, ignoring the ticking. I'm glad I got my Jeep back on the road so I can tear into my engine.

@gregmislick1117 2 года назад

Check all the 5.4 series vids, he shows you how to swap out the followers without having to actually pull the cam - just loosen up a couple of bolts and put the engine in a specific spot in the rotation and then bam, they can all be swapped - without disturbing the timing set!

@rustyredemptions Месяц назад

18 months ago I bought a really clean 2013 Expedition cheap, with 250k miles on it. Ran great, no noises. I did an immediate oil change, and two more since then. Last month, pulled up to a stop sign, heard a muffled 'clunk', and she's locked up solid. Found a chain guide destroyed with chunks everwhere, worn cams and a bad roller but still in place. Timing gear all removed, cams removed, still locked up. She's coming out next week, I've got a reman on order...😔

@buddylee6996 2 года назад

Great video Brian! Such a plethora of knowledge you have. Thank you for sharing the warning signs. Would you happen to know the procedure on switching over to the new motorcraft coolant for a 18 fusion hybrid? I want to change the coolant in the engine and hybrid system.

@F150PullsBayliner Месяц назад

I may be screwed now. Just emailed Brian about my truck. Sadly I wanted the ticking noise checked out by my mechanic. Mechanic opened up the valve cover and didn’t want to proceed further. When I got the truck back it started shaking and the check engine light came on. I’m sad now. 183k miles on my 07 5.4L!

@jrich5955 2 года назад

This is the exact noise my truck just recently started to make. I've had it parked because it freaked me out. Thank you for the video.. now I can have a clue. I guess I shouldn't complain.. 260k miles with this being the first real issue.

@brianblithe2271 2 года назад

What year is your truck w/ 260k miles ?

@jrich5955 2 года назад

@@brianblithe2271 it is a 2004 (and a half).. really been a reliable truck

@michaelmorgan2584 Год назад

330000 miles on my 07 and I need to do this but I definitely can’t complain it runs and I hope to get to 400000

@MrNickcafc 2 года назад

Oh man, I've got a 2005 Mustang GT and it ticks like crazy. I've just kept driving it for the last 10,000 miles. I should probably open the valve covers and take a peek.

@williamalley4976 2 года назад

Really, The One Fatal Flaw that is Destroying the Ford 5.4L 3v Triton Engines! This engine has been awful from the start. Ford motor Co. jammed this thing out and had to come up with fixes from the start. I don't think I have heard a 5.4 3v that didn't have a ticking lifter in it! Should have said the 200th thing wrong with this motor!

@FordTechMakuloco 2 года назад

Please re read the title it says the one fatal flaw not the only flaw, there is a distinction here. This is the only design flaw of this engine that can be fatal.

@no1but24 Год назад

The worst engine in my adult life that Ford ever produced, My 05 F-150 5.4 with routine oil changes,had the cam phasers replaced once died at 115.000 miles. And there’s spark plugs replacement,lol smh, 4 them broke off in the head! Worst engine ever! I feel Ford should give everybody some money back that bought that engine. Hope to God my 2020 F-150 2.7 is better.

@UQRXD Год назад

It was a real money maker for Ford. All the engineering that had to go into the engine to come up with parts that would fail in short order right after warranty was up.

@douglasmcleish7355 2 года назад

I have 250k engine run only on synthetic Mobil 1. I will go listen but I always listen. Thanks for the info.

@DA-qe9py 2 года назад

Great Video! Same thing happen on a 2011 Chrysler C-200 with 3.6 V6... starting making noise around 70K miles... Spent $2k to have all of the lifters and all of the roller bearings replaced and also needed to replace one cam. So isn't just the Ford 5.4L... do a Google search and you'll see this is a common problem for the Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep 2011 +/- year 3.2 and 3.6 engines. I also have a 2011 Ford Focus with 158K miles on it and have had no issues to date but I'm really leaning towards a non-turbo Toyota for my next car. :-)

@davidblanck4131 2 года назад

Just replaced the full timing set, rollers, cams (mine got damaged), new HV pump, and everything based on your videos. Thanks!

@fourcam150 2 года назад

The Chrysler pentastar v6s have the exact same problem. If you hear the tick don't waste time getting it fixed.

@davidburman451 2 года назад

My 04 f150 5.4 triton ate my wallet badly almost 2 yrs ago....Off the road for a few months till I sorted everything out. Took it out on its first test drive and the drive shaft puked its hanger bearing. My 97 with the 4.2 six was a far better truck in so many ways....I would have been thousands $$$ ahead if I had fixed it up instead of this one. Its fine locally but Im terrified to go too far in it....way too much bad stuff when they get old. My buddy ran his old 98 Chev 350 to over 300,000 miles ....never had to get inside the eng. Then sold it to a guy who is still driving it.....pushrod engine...50 year old tech. Unless your're made of money this is the way to go.

@1324jeb Год назад

Looking at replacement remanufactured 5.4 for my 2007 F150. Any recommendation on who I should look at getting a reman from?

@jackdale9831 2 года назад

WHAT IF...@ 150K miles. The dude could replace the roller-bearing with needle-bearings that were super-strong? Or...replace your 5.4L SOHC with a "hot-rodded" 460 cu" OHV and 500+ hp?

@josephmorrone2660 2 года назад

My favorite You Tube channel You do Great work !

@cobra7250 2 года назад

I love watching your show. I am wondering why the 4.6 3 valve engine does not seem to have nearly the problems of the 5.4. Any thoughts on this?

@dperr338 Год назад

5.4 came in more vehicles.

@AbcAbc-sp1od Год назад

The 4.6 was more likely to go into cars like the crown Vic and mercury Grand Marquis. Old guy cars, so they were better taken care of. The 5.4 went into trucks mostly. Those owners don't take as good care of them, especially work trucks.

@honkeytonklin2198 2 года назад

Just bought an 03 that has a tic tic...Thank You gonna take care of that asap

@FordTechMakuloco 2 года назад

This engine did not come out until 2004.

@honkeytonklin2198 2 года назад

@@FordTechMakuloco Thanks, enjoying learning from your video about roller followers, time to learn more about 03's 🤣

@Joe-jl7nx 2 года назад

Bought a 2008 f150 from an auction and drove it for a month when this problem started happening. was so upset I was then convinced to get a full timing job . After watching this video I don't know if that was the best option now thinking back to it. But truck is still running strong w 125k miles

@williamfranklin6283 2 года назад

He's impressed original timing set at 179k miles. Me driving a Toyota with 425k and a Jeep with 315k, neither ever had valve covers off.

@thinkfirst6431 Год назад

Another good reason to stick with the 2V 5.4l.

@michaelbefumo-qg7ji Год назад

But sometimes you could get what you could only get with the money you have I'm blessed with the 3-valve I got. I've had a two valve before it ended 3-valve runs rings around a two valve, to Val has no horsepower it's got torque,

@michaelbefumo-qg7ji Год назад

With the variable valve timing on the 3-valve 5.4. the power comes on very linear if you roll into the throttle fast and pulls like a freight train

@thinkfirst6431 Год назад

@@michaelbefumo-qg7ji No doubt that the 3v has more power than the 2v. When your cam phaser(s) go out and it is $1000 plus in parts PLUS labor that extra power then bites you in the ass (or wherever you keep your wallet).

@billyweston949 Год назад

So how do I know if mine is a 3 valve or a two valve

@thinkfirst6431 Год назад

@@billyweston949 2v ended with the 2003 model year, 3v started with the 3v engine. Very late in the 2003 year you might actually have a 3v depending on how the stocks of the 2v were going. Ford needed the 3v in 2004 to meet the current year emissions standard.

@bret9741 Год назад

Your informative videos are wonderful. I have a low mileage 2007 F-150 (now 81,000) miles. It’s rust free, not even a hint of rust. Inside still smells new when left closed up for a couple of days… It’s hard to justify replacing the truck. But I think I’m going to sell it to a dear friend who needs a solid truck. Before I do, I want to fix these “known issues”. Don’t I also need to change the timing belt, cam phasers, oil pump, and some of the head parts?

@Savlock2112 2 года назад

Amazing video. You just described exactly what happened to my 2010 f150 it only 82,000 miles. In June of this year I purchased a reman engine and intake from Ford and right out of the box it's ticking, badly. After three trips to three different Ford dealerships I finally got a service tech to open the valve cover. They said there's no damage to the cam and everything looks fine. But I know it's not. It has a 3-year unlimited mile warranty but trying to get a dealer service to work on is like pulling teeth. I'm about to give up on any warranty work and start tearing into it myself. I know this can be a good engine if it's taken care of but for a brand new reman to be ticking like that and three different dealerships tell me it's fine is just absurd.

@FordTechMakuloco 2 года назад

I just had one same thing as shown in this video that engine was just installed a day prior.

@Savlock2112 2 года назад

@@FordTechMakuloco now I'm wondering if I should take it back to Ford service to try to get them to fix the tick under warranty or should I just throw the warranty away and do it myself? I know there's something wrong and they won't admit it. The only reason the third dealership actually tore into it is because I did not tell them it was under warranty.

@JBM-yr3xw 2 года назад

So just as a preventative measure would you recommend just going through and replacing the cam rollers? This would be just to keep the engine from a catastrophic failure. If you got the special took and just did them one at a time and put the valve covers back on with new seals, would that be a good idea? Mine is ticking pretty good and its at 116k original miles. Im not sure im up for doing a full timing job myself, but I think I could replace the cam rollers one at a time. Is that something you would recommend? Thanks for the videos FordTech !! Great job!!

@jimimcintosh7796 2 года назад

They'll let you know something is wrong. It is not too labor intensive or costly to change them all out. The base motor is great just the little things here and there will get them to hiccup. Once I hear mine ticking I just saved up and got them all done

@jameshicks8115 2 года назад

Thanks my 05 has the same noise. Has 155,000 miles on it. The guy at the garage said it’s just common on those motors and to keep the oil changed frequently. So glad I watched your video. Question do you have a shop and where are you located?

@unclemarksdiyauto 2 года назад

Great video and info on not ignoring this ticking for very long! Thanks Brian.

@dooooooval904 Год назад

Mines doing this tick and ive heard cyl 7 is notorious for failure. I need to get it in the shop asap. 2009 expedition EL4x4 286kmi. Routine maintanence

@rockobeam2706 Год назад

Thanks for the heads up. I always keep my oil golden too. No ticking yet but I'll be on it if it does. I have a 2009 e350 van. The 5.4 has been great for me. I'm one of the lucky ones I guess. Mines at 340+k in kilometers so around the 200k mile mark. Transmission was replaced not long ago. Maybe it helps that it runs on gas or propane. It came from the factory already converted. It was a cargo van fleet vehicle. Great video once again. I always take heed to your advice on here👍

@M_u_t_e96024 Год назад

2003 f150 v8 triton offroad edition over 240k miles maxed spedo drifting in snow multiple times no issues besides 4wd fork broke and coil packs

@PrinceJ933 2 года назад

Excellent channel. I'm chasing the dreaded misfire issue on my newly acquired. 2004. I don't hear the noise described here, and I'm working through the issues. Not coil pack, injectors. Going through the list and looking into the recommended software to get more data.

@flexjay87 2 года назад

I had a Jeep V-6 with similar issues in the valvetrain. Eventually the engine blew up one morning last year when it was -30 degree's F , at 180,000 miles. Now i drive a Toyota.

@frststrykr 2 года назад

Best way to prevent failure of the cam follower roller bearings is to NOT use fords recommended oil, 5w20. Use 5w30 instead and in summer add a viscosity fortifier with ZDDP

@ZOMB13HUN13R 8 дней назад

I got 207k miles on mine, throwing P0012 code. Changed VCT and Cam shaft position sensor. Rather put the money toward a powertrain products new motor than spending the money on a timing job. Now I wish this guy was in so cal because my truck would be with makuloco getting the works.