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How to Change Tubes in the Avalon 737 Replacing the Tubes...DID IT HELP? VOCAL TEST 

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@LoKnows
@LoKnows 6 лет назад
So what do you think? Can you hear the difference? Did it help?Is it worth keeping the Avalon? Did we truly land on the moon? Let me know
@dillpickle1340
@dillpickle1340 6 лет назад
Lo Knows, Sort Of I say sell it, and get a dbx 286s if you still need a preamp, at the price the Avalon is I want no hiss
@bryandavids1191
@bryandavids1191 6 лет назад
Remove rear mounted ground- link. And also flip the voltage on the Avalon = noise gone.Check page 13. make sure your not charging any phones in the room and make sure its also connected to a power conditioner.That stuck cable has to be the route of the problem since its a stuck cable. its stuck for a reason.Hope this helps =) www.avalondesign.com/manuals/Vt737sp_Manual_2016.pdf
@INeedsMoneys
@INeedsMoneys 3 года назад
Space is fake
@harryhuong5392
@harryhuong5392 2 года назад
Looking from the front of the unit, they are in order let to right.
@GlennMarshallRocks
@GlennMarshallRocks 4 года назад
As you've discovered, you can't tell tube wear by looking at them. Vacuum tubes are not like "light bulbs" when they wear out. You can tell tube wear by their degraded sound (by loss of upper frequencies, loss of detail, loss of tightness in the bass, hissing, loss of output, etc.), and you can tell tubes are worn by using a tube test meter. Those are the two ways to tell tube wear. Avalon rates the tubes for 5,000 hours in the user manual (pg. 39) and recommends changing tubes every 2 years in units that are "used regularly". The next thing you brought up was if it makes a difference what socket the tubes go in. The reason for Tubes to be designated for specific sockets is because of what's referred to as the "gain staging" that they have been tested to work for. If you put them in different sockets, you risk introducing noise from noisier tubes being earlier in the preamp gain stage circuitry. So, yes, they need to go in the sockets they are designated for. And finally - All tubes require a "break-in" period during which their bottom end drops down to reproduce lows better, their upper frequencies and overall clarity improves (in most cases significantly), and the micro-detail in the mids becomes much, much more defined. The recommended minimum break-in time for preamp tubes is 48 hours. After that, very slight improvements in sound will continue over the next 48 hours or so, but in most cases will be hardly noticeable at all to the majority of individuals.
@mgrolfe
@mgrolfe 6 лет назад
I would still keep it. It's probably in need of a good cleaning and I would prop it on something to help with the airflow. I have mine sitting on four hard rubber caps that you put on the bottom of a chair to raise it up . Also I'm concerned about the cable that's stuck in there, perhaps that might be causing some kind of interference. Either way it needs to be addressed. Also get some compressed air and spray off that dust inside, that kind of buildup can cause some adverse reactions to the circuitry which also can contribute to noise. I would also pull the tubes back out and placed in again, they can be finicky if not seated properly which might be why the compressor is acting up. If after doing all that, you still get that hiss then I would have Avalon look at it since it might be something with the circuitry itself. Good luck!
@LoKnows
@LoKnows 6 лет назад
Thanks for the suggestions! I will definetly put all of that to use
@Podcastage
@Podcastage 6 лет назад
You had me worried at the beginning thinking something might actually get broken. HA!
@LoKnows
@LoKnows 6 лет назад
The only thing broken broken is my heart with this darn thing!
@PharaohLawLess1
@PharaohLawLess1 6 лет назад
What your hearing in the computer fan. You’re gonna have to run it directly into the interface. In Pro Tools or any DAW you’re gonna have to noise gate in post production
@raynardr220
@raynardr220 5 лет назад
The tubes are installed as you are looking the faceplate left to right, one thru four.
@christurbiville
@christurbiville 4 года назад
you dont need high-gain on with a 416, thats for very low gain mics like ribbons or other low gain mics. High Gain does just that boost gain, and makes the noise floor louder.
@harryhuong5392
@harryhuong5392 2 года назад
Can you check the sound after replacing the 4 tubes ? Are the results better than before?
@lightafluident.9950
@lightafluident.9950 2 года назад
That's why I like building my channel strip with separate processors. There's nothing like piecing your own strip together.
@lightafluident.9950
@lightafluident.9950 2 года назад
It pays to go with Warm Audio mic preamps. They hold up great, and they sound beautiful!!!!
@rapgentry
@rapgentry 2 года назад
I know this is years later but those numbers on the tube boxes have to match the numbers on your Avalon board when you put them in. By the way what was up with the other issues? Did you ever figure out what was the problem?
@GusDaCosta
@GusDaCosta 6 лет назад
Great video, loved the story telling, I was edge to find out about the outcome, plus very funny intro. Hope you get the Avalon fixed or sold soon..
@brenrecordings3758
@brenrecordings3758 2 года назад
grounding and power combinations of the avalon and mixer, if ur pc is on the same circuit too that can add to the hum
@marianobrascich
@marianobrascich 6 лет назад
SOUND VERY CLEAR... THIS IS THE REAL TUBES WORLD !!!
@seanyg99
@seanyg99 Год назад
The mic cable stuck is probably causing the hiss. Does the avalon have a gate/limiter on it?
@johndavenport7073
@johndavenport7073 4 года назад
Would love to hear or see what your settings are on the unit with the 416. I have one and always like to hear or see what/how someone is setting it up. The sound is great! Really punchy and not overly processed! BOTH videos are very entertaining. I am subscribing! thx.
@tinktwiceman
@tinktwiceman 5 лет назад
Did you end up fixing everything on the 737? I plan on getting one but for the price, I hope it's reliable and durable. Thank you.
@henryssurfshowcase
@henryssurfshowcase Год назад
What name brand tubes were in the Avalon? What name brand tubes did you replace them with?..
@PharaohLawLess1
@PharaohLawLess1 6 лет назад
The Avalon vt737sp were never known as great compressors. And in recording vocals going into the DAW very little compression is the thing to do. You can always use compression after recording. And now in newer pro tool versions you can control the loudness by riding the fader in a write the column adjuster. They have videos on RU-vid that show you how to do that
@LoKnows
@LoKnows 6 лет назад
PharaohLawLess1 yeah after a while the new tubes seemed to settle in and it’s sound so good now. No need for a noise gate I ended up getting control over that. It’s so true though, the compressor is sooooo slight and didn’t really show any kind of effect unless I had the high gain on. On top of that, the tubes brought so much more life to my Avalon that I actually have to set my out put down so it’s not so hot, even with the preamp at 0. Thanks for the advice bro
@PharaohLawLess1
@PharaohLawLess1 6 лет назад
Lo Knows, Sort Of No sweat brotha And thanks for videos. Keep on doing the good works and good deeds
@MuppetManization
@MuppetManization 5 лет назад
Thats a lie. The Svalon was 1.2 million in the 70s.
@harryhuong5392
@harryhuong5392 2 года назад
Looking from the front of the unit, they are in order let to right.
@Dwayne_Alfonso
@Dwayne_Alfonso Год назад
What’s the model of avalon tubes to buy it? Are they 12AX7?
@amigomusic1804
@amigomusic1804 4 года назад
Hi , i have also buy an Avalon 737sp 7 years old ... the Autotune sucks in the Uad Apollo Twin. Do you think its time to change my tubes ? Have you an experience with Avalon and UAD combination ? Thx a lot Musa
@LoKnows
@LoKnows 4 года назад
If you haven’t changed the tubes in 7 years. Absolutely yes, change your tubes. Sorry have not tried the Apollo with the UAD, I am looki g to get one though.
@gentianzekaj8969
@gentianzekaj8969 4 года назад
Bro RU-vid need to Connect the special ground conntecing with a cable to Your microphone for getting supersonic Performance. And You need to turn of Wifi in Your Room for not digital Sound issues
@robpayneiii
@robpayneiii 6 лет назад
You need to isolate the PC in a isolation box. And it's possible that the replacement tubes got damaged in transit.
@LoKnows
@LoKnows 6 лет назад
Rob Payne III the isolation I agree 100%. For to find a way to make that happen.
@robpayneiii
@robpayneiii 6 лет назад
What's wrong with your hands? Build it yourself? The materials to build an isolation box for the computer is cheap. Have a friend help you build one. The fan is only a few db in sound so build a dog house to block the noise.
@HumbugShow
@HumbugShow 6 лет назад
Your production is superb.
@mimikoss
@mimikoss 4 года назад
Avalon only recommends Sovtek 6922 vacuum tubes fot your Vt-737sp
@lightafluident.9950
@lightafluident.9950 2 года назад
Ive heard the compressor on the Avalon sucks more than once through the years.
@cdeltv8025
@cdeltv8025 6 лет назад
If that cable is stuck that could have been the issue, i had a bad cable stuck before and it game grounding problem to the the preamp from the mic and cables go bad all the time. that cable being stuck there for that long and you pulling on it could have been the issue
@LoKnows
@LoKnows 6 лет назад
I may have to cut it and have it soldered back on
@cdeltv8025
@cdeltv8025 6 лет назад
Lo Knows, Sort Of if you call avalon they will over night you an xlr input replacement its so easy to replace.
@dillpickle1340
@dillpickle1340 6 лет назад
If you wanted more “warmth” why didn’t you use your tlm 103?
@LoKnows
@LoKnows 6 лет назад
I would if i could bro, but i dont own a 103. The one i had for my review was lent to me for a week. I think im going to sell my TLM 49 and Aphex towards a U87. Then ill be done!!!
@dillpickle1340
@dillpickle1340 6 лет назад
Oh!
@dillpickle1340
@dillpickle1340 6 лет назад
For character vo the sennheiser mk4 vs tlm 103 vs mkh 416? Any ideas or thoughts?
@LoKnows
@LoKnows 6 лет назад
I was thinking about this question, i would have to go with the 103. When ever i had to do character work outside of my studio, i would usually see an 103, never saw a MK4. Whenever i would use a MKH416 outside of my studio it would normally be for Promo work our Narration. I am currently in the early phases of an animation job and sent my voice sample out to the engineers and they mixed the other actors into a scene. I noticed one thing off the bat, my voice stood out over the others and didnt seem to gell with the other VOs. It was kind of distracting for me. And its a conversation i need to have with the engineer. He loved the sound of it and said it was super clear and stuff, but to me, it was a little to dominating compared to the others. Probably a common problem when you have people recording all over the place and not using the same mic. Just an observation
@dillpickle1340
@dillpickle1340 6 лет назад
Okay, sorry if I’m bothering you, but the final (I think) question is: akg c414 vs Neumann tlm 103 vs sennheiser mk4?
@lovelegacy500
@lovelegacy500 Год назад
Hum Most times comes from Audio and Electric wires being Close to one another.
@MuppetManization
@MuppetManization 5 лет назад
its not your Avalon. the fresh tubes will revamp its sound but its your mic cable. Its cheap. You need to be using monster. a bad cable will introduce interference.
@Firmbie
@Firmbie 6 лет назад
I bet this was fun in editing.
@FunnyGuyTimmy
@FunnyGuyTimmy 6 лет назад
Man I sold an old tube strip. If I had know how to do this It would have been amazing.
@newtbangem4855
@newtbangem4855 6 лет назад
what kind of power conditioner are you useing ??
@LoKnows
@LoKnows 6 лет назад
Power conditioner?
@newtbangem4855
@newtbangem4855 6 лет назад
Provides clean AC power to sensitive electrical equipment. Usually this is used for home or office applications and has up to 10 or more receptacles or outlets and commonly provides surge protection as well as noise filtering..
@MuppetManization
@MuppetManization 5 лет назад
he doesn't need one. If ground were an interference to his sound it would come through his monitors with the Avalon off.
@FiremanCV
@FiremanCV 6 лет назад
Too funny, Video was fun to watch, lol
@LoKnows
@LoKnows 6 лет назад
thanks man, glad you liked it. Its what im going for moving forward, its more my style
@FiremanCV
@FiremanCV 6 лет назад
Yes, I need to upgrade myself. Tried to get to B&H today in Manhattan, Stuck 30 Minutes at one traffic light. I said the heck with it. Ill shop online, lol
@LoKnows
@LoKnows 6 лет назад
LOL!! I need you to make good on busting up a couple of knees since they arent getting back to me about affiliate marketing.
@FiremanCV
@FiremanCV 6 лет назад
I havent given up completely Lo, When I get there, Ill do a VR to you to show you the outside & inside. Something tells me, I will lose a lot of money once I walk in the doors, lol
@No_Boundary_ENT
@No_Boundary_ENT 3 года назад
Can the replacement tubes can be used in a art pro vla ii? would appreciate if anyone can help
@enriquergz8795
@enriquergz8795 6 лет назад
Donde comraste los vulvos y que interface usas amigo???
@gregoryisom8333
@gregoryisom8333 6 лет назад
Hard for me to watch comic video's like this because of me...all the not sure analogies had my brain on pause throughout the presentation lol...I'm always serious when it comes to hi-end gear as I have the Avalon 737 along with the Manley VOXBOX and the LA 610 but I am not getting any hum of any kind at this point, the glass breaking brick throwing and dub voice overs gave me an array of comic entertainment, you should get a show it might be great for television!
@robertodelavega9311
@robertodelavega9311 Год назад
think it's not good to pick up the valves directly with your hands
@comercializadorasaldos8308
@comercializadorasaldos8308 6 лет назад
Como sabes que es necesario cambiarlos???? How know what is necesary change???
@LoKnows
@LoKnows 6 лет назад
Usually when your Avalon starts sounding more noisy then usual. Also depends how often you use it. Some people have to change it out every 6mnth some people have to change it every 3 years.
@chicnwafflesband
@chicnwafflesband 6 лет назад
Hope he took out that card board piece that fell in close to the circuitry, LOL!.
@LoKnows
@LoKnows 6 лет назад
yes!!!! Im so glad you got that, i was hopping someone would crack on that
@Area51Gr74
@Area51Gr74 6 лет назад
Great video funny too.
@povertytaretv
@povertytaretv 8 месяцев назад
Get a mogami cable
@Roscoewade369
@Roscoewade369 6 лет назад
sound good to me
@CaballeroTheUnFamed
@CaballeroTheUnFamed 4 года назад
You installed the tubes backwards. You probably know it by now.
@BillBene67
@BillBene67 2 года назад
When is 2018 and you're STILL using an Mbox device...yikes....
@LoKnows
@LoKnows 2 года назад
Haha , I have since upgraded
@nataliacuervo8150
@nataliacuervo8150 6 лет назад
First! 🙋🏻‍♀️ from your #1 fan!
@nataliacuervo8150
@nataliacuervo8150 6 лет назад
I like that camera work!!
@LoKnows
@LoKnows 6 лет назад
You better be ;)
@antonisatwork
@antonisatwork 4 года назад
@Natalie Cuervo I'm YOUR number 1 fan!
@CoriolisAffectment
@CoriolisAffectment 6 лет назад
Okay, we know for sure it's 6+ years old...and you're thinking 'grailish' on a mic? Sell de ting and fuggedaboutit.
@gentianzekaj8969
@gentianzekaj8969 4 года назад
Or maybe Your of you turn Your preamp gain away Form 0db they sshhh will go away
@GRNSdatboisheed
@GRNSdatboisheed 3 года назад
yea... lets just leave a piece of paper into a 4 thousand dollar electrical device WITH vacuum tubes that get hot.
@EN4ORC3R
@EN4ORC3R 4 года назад
I was thinking of buying this... Now I'm not going to...
@LoKnows
@LoKnows 4 года назад
I wouldn’t be to hasty yet, keep the research going. More then a year after this video my Avalon is sounding just fine. Although, I would like to send it to a Avalon for a proper tune up, but that’s a luxury, one day maybe, but I’m loving and getting work with this to this day.
@dumpydoctor7670
@dumpydoctor7670 5 лет назад
hey man its so minuscule that u can barely even tell if its there.. u arent running a mutli million dollar studio so WHO CARES
@magicdancemusic7321
@magicdancemusic7321 5 лет назад
Ok video for kids I’m checking more seriously ones👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿
@teashea1
@teashea1 2 года назад
very dysfunctional video - disorganized and poor production values.
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