Kazrog Avalon 747 First Demo: Is this Even Close?

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In this video producer, mix and mastering engineer David Gnozzi tests the new Kazrog Avalon 474sp plugin
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@mixbustv Год назад

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@future_Victoryofficial Год назад

👍🏾

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

Thanks for rocking with us again, David!

@danymalsound Год назад

That top end reminds me of all the 2000's era boy band records. Sounds insane!

@rrs731 Год назад

I don't even bother watching any other channel, especially reviews. It's crazy to me how you teach me mixing while just showing a new plug in

@JuanJacinto Год назад

Well, we don't know if it's even close, because it's not being compared to the original hardware. Hope to see a comparison soon.

@bresk13 Год назад

yeah wtf clickbait title

@happylittlesynth Год назад

@@bresk13 How is it clickbait? Where in the title does it say he's comparing it to the hardware?

@queenpurple8433 Год назад

It’s always a good day when my favorite mixing/mastering RU-vidr uploads. Another great video David!

@mixbustv Год назад

🙏

@tulshimusic3178 Год назад

Got a 737 here in the studio... always lusted after a 747... loved true iron so Ive been highly anticipating this! Looks like they smashed it out the park! Great demo too David, loved the speed, great mix decisions when demoing the unit, found myself getting nostalgic vibes from the tones being achieved! Off to grab it! Epic!

@mixbustv Год назад

🙌🙏

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks so much, enjoy!

@Poccu9IHuH Год назад

Well, if Kazrog nail it, so hardware 737 units behave very different. There was four different 737 hardware units i had in use here in Russia and compression on all four units makes vocals sounds plain. Maybe optical pairs installed in them are worse than one in your studio. I dunno. You are lucky☺️ i can't test Kazrog modeled plugin, but when i back home, i will try it. ☺️

@Trackformers Год назад

They should've just thrown in a dry/wet to top it off.

@trashunicorn2308 Год назад

THE best channel around, great plugin and great review as always

@TheSakuraGumiLTD Год назад

Kazrog do very few, but very good plugins... I love their transformer plugin

@TheSakuraGumiLTD Год назад

It seems they do not release something unless it is perfect... much better than some companies that just keep releasing anything hoping one in a while stick

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

appreciate your support@@TheSakuraGumiLTD

@TheSakuraGumiLTD Год назад

@KazrogLLC it's hardly hard to. You clearly go for quality over quantity and get pretty dam close. I don't compliment anything unless it's honest and deserved

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

means a lot to us, thank you @@TheSakuraGumiLTD

@fredtimothy940 Год назад

This is why I love this channel. Always the first to post about new stuff that is TRULY USEFUL.

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks, hope you dig the plugin!

@fremadethis Год назад

I smiled the moment you pushed that top end.

@TheChrispablo Год назад

wow that top end is just so smooth kazrog really outdid themselves

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks for watching!

@KieranZaneRoberts Год назад

God-tier plugin holy shieeet

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thank you ⚡

@b.hornetiii.6771 Год назад

Nice, silk top end EQ ... As you said great for "slow music", not all over the place with hard steps up or down.

@SuperFake777 Год назад

Finally Someone got that Avalon Top end right itb! I eidnt wanna get the 737 uad because im already using the 73 and that takes like a whole DSP Chip

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks so much!

@braxal6983 Год назад

Good to see you David, I do not think I seen you around lately. You must be very busy. I appreciate the video!!!!

@mixbustv Год назад

It's actually RU-vid not showing my videos to basically anyone lol but thank you!

@braxal6983 Год назад

@@mixbustv I am sorry. I should be subscribed to your channel. I wonder why I am not seeing the video's pop up.

@solitsounds 7 месяцев назад

Hi David, thanks a lot for your comprehensive video. By the way, please let us know when the reggae/dancehall song at the end is released, it's awesome.

@IanBeato Год назад

Plugin was so good I had to buy the real unit 😂 last one on Reverb, too

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

no way, that's awesome! haha

@danta7320 Год назад

I have the Hardware Unit and the is better for me but for a Plugin is a good choice. The tube from Hardware is more warmer and the eq is better.

@roelgarcia Год назад

Thank you for the review, I have all Kazrog plugins except this one, gotta check it out!

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks, hope you like it!

@Rhuggins Год назад

Kazrog is absolutely top of the line, some of the VERY best around

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks so much!

@wav_909 Год назад

Anything kazrog is a must buy at this point

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

enjoy! 🙏

@DECIFERTHIS09 7 месяцев назад

I just bought a UAD apollo, basically for the avalon so using the kazroq demo its pretty solid adds instant thickness, and a little percussive in nature whats not a bad thing. If they make 1073 cone that would be a nice versatile alternative, then of course a 76 and la2a then your 90% of all thats needed everything else is stock plugins is fine for multiband eq or what not.

@Rhythmattica Год назад

I still want a 737 for a frontend, but I can see id be happy with a 747 as a plugin...... Noice.. (Also , the name is based on a beach just North of Sydney, where my Wife grew up... So I guess I've have something from Avalon already... lol)

@Rhythmattica Год назад

Bit of Trivia....The Hitech Store I worked at for many years , the first few 737 Avalons we had , had purple knobs.... Wish it had that skin.... I guess, A bit "Apogee", another aussie thing...... Theres an underlying story to that if you look.

@gabrielthesingingpilot Год назад

I used to live in Avalon on the weekends at my dad's house. Used to surf and skate the avo skate park all the time ha ha

@Rhythmattica Год назад

@@gabrielthesingingpilot Saw your profile.. How about "up , up and away, with TAA " Yeh.. im Old.

@gabrielthesingingpilot Год назад

@Rhythmattica oh gee I do believe I recall hearing that ad when I was a little kid!! Though " come fly Jetstarrrrr" always comes to mind when I think of airline jingles ha ha

@sleepisoptional Год назад

really nice on vocals. definitely has that avalon top and “pillowy” compression. i used to reserve the “pillow” label for tubetech cl1b but this is similar. different compressor than 737. eq does that avalon clarity white-hot knife thru butter thing. cool plugin. kazrog is king

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks 😎

@nathanielbrown8718 Год назад

kazrog is lowkey alien technology.

@KeenanCrow Год назад

Fuckin seriously. Their modeling is insane.

@Skkyyyyyyyyyyy Год назад

It’s insane tbh. That true Iron plugin is unreal.

@KeenanCrow Год назад

I put it on damn near everything

@nathanielbrown8718 Год назад

@@KeenanCrow yes! I treat true iron like its one of those summing mixing plugin like nsl mixbus from waves. but fuck waves.

@KeenanCrow Год назад

@@nathanielbrown8718 yeah I even own NLS and I very much prefer True Iron.

@Midee Год назад

We had a 747sp in our studio and barely used it after a while. The eq definitely shined more than the actual compressor. Kinda overrated, but it had it's uses. I'm not missing it enough to buy it in plugin form, even though I'm sure Kazrog nailed it. 😂

@critza Год назад

Really impressive plugin!

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks, hope you dig it!

@angelocherymusic Год назад

that compressor is invisible

@_xXx_YT Год назад

the video, you uploaded it...WE came

@RockstarRecStudio Год назад

Bought on the spot, if David thumbs it up, I buy. This is something special

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thank you, make some great music out there!

@talenton1246 3 дня назад

You make Great Videos! Congrats! By the way, I was happy to give you the exact 1000th LIKE. Looked cool when it went from 999 to 1K.

@mixbustv 3 дня назад

Thank you 🙏

@peterbondmusic Год назад

very impressive, the compressor action is so good for a plugin, wow. Purchased...

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks, enjoy!

@guentherschroeder5195 Год назад

I own an analog 747 so did a shoot out between the plugin and the actual unit. They, of course, are not exactly the same. I don't have the greatest converters, so I don't know what the converter bias is. I used a test tone to make sure that everything was correctly matched. I put the plugin on it's "best" setting in the setup window. The top end is better on the analog and the low end more focused. The stereo image on the analog is also slightly better. I found I had to adjust the compressor threshold on the plugin to get the gain reduction the same. Both the analog and plugin sound good. I would buy this plugin because it is a nice sounding plugin that has a classiness to it, not because it sounds identical to the analog unit. The plugin has the sound of a high end piece of analog gear. As I said earlier, I don't know what part the converters have played in this test.

@jassa3692 Год назад

Hey man great vid 1 question tho is there any vst except uad which emulate’s manley Voxbox or 373 from avalon ?

@roogrey 8 месяцев назад

A superb demonstration, David, thank you. Yours are always so good with your examples making it easy to hear what the plugin is doing. I love the sound of this. I was considering a 737 by UA, but I'm glad I kept looking; this is the one! I hadn't heard of Kazrog before, but I have now! Diving in… 👏

@ZOgrameMusic Год назад

Great video, I agree that it sounds so good that the video could stop at the beginning, sold Thanks for this

@Sigorzav_Mixing Год назад

go try mastering with Kazrog Avalon 747 & Weiss Deesser, it's game changer for morden vintage music!

@jorge.aldape.g Год назад

Hello 👋! Than you Dude. Is this the same EQ as the plug-in of UAD of the Avalon plugin? I see the difference on the right but on the left?

@officialpoa3171 Год назад

*PLEASE TELL, HOW IS THE LATENCY ON THIS PLUGIN? DOES IT INTRODUCE LATENCY IN ORDER TO FUNCTION PROPERLY?*

@astralboy Год назад

are we compensating the gain ? Didnt see autogain compensation. If the compressor post gain is more after makeup is added it may perceived to be sounding better.

@mixbustv Год назад

You must be new around here 😆

@astralboy Год назад

@@mixbustv more like a comet....what did I miss?

@joezazasin7 Год назад

ooh my baby The Avalon 💯🔥 i was lucky to get the real thing used year's ago. But this can provide so much flexibility. I luv this

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks!

@djkurtstudio Год назад

I hope they have because I regretfully had to sell mine in 2015 and I want it back sooo bad but it has literally more than tripled in price for what I sold it for on the second hand market! I feel so stupid for doing this and makes me feel a bit sick to be honest! :( This unit is like magic if you work on EDM stuff. The bottom and top end is just huge! The compressor is super clean, it doesn't really smash the audio if you're looking to crush something because the release is not very aggressive, more suited for just taking a bit off on the master bus but if you really push it you can get a punchy sound that still sounds super clean. I never tried it on a vocal, was mainly just on my master bus. I'm too impatient, I've checked the site like 8 times today already, waiting for it to come up! Please hurry! ..... Still watching your vid and it's very close in sound to the real unit. I just can't wait to try it out without any RU-vid compression to be able to hear the top end properly. I want to hear that bottom and top end on some bass heavy EDM to see what it does! :)

@djkurtstudio Год назад

Just tried this thing out and it really is soo close to the real unit!

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks so much @@djkurtstudio

@PharaohLawLess1 Год назад

I’m never selling my vt737sp. Never

@PharaohLawLess1 Год назад

I own a vt737sp black face edition and I know a lot of people don’t like that unit but I love it. I’m gonna see how this plugin stacks up against my 737sp

@mixbustv Год назад

The 737 was always a great unit, not the most versatile but still.

@PharaohLawLess1 Год назад

@@mixbustvI use it only for tracking my vocals. I’ve recently purchased the AKG c414 XLs and it’s a perfect marriage so far. They always say that the 737 and 747 was great on R&B vocals is why I bought it

@djsilent01 Год назад

If you are doing RnB vocals, unless you are using a 1073, there is no reason that you should not use this plugin. It is THE sound. 737/747 is going to be the sound for your vocals in RnB. Especially Mid to Slow tempo.

@PharaohLawLess1 Год назад

@@djsilent01 I have the hardware unit so I kinda don’t need the plugin

@MPHORROCKS Год назад

It sounds really great, like all Kazrog products! Do we know how long the intro price is for?

@mixbustv Год назад

Sorry I don't, it should say on their website tho

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

no exact cutoff date yet, but it will definitely go for a good while! we want to ensure everyone has the chance to snag this one ⚡

@ast4127 10 месяцев назад

Is ”3D luxury” the best phrase to describe that top end? Cant think of anything else.

@SidBar0ne Год назад

never seen you smile so hard... a genuine reflection of how this unit makes one feel... fully agreed

@tylerboley1786 Год назад

As soon as your video expressed enthusiasm I went and bought it, I’ll watch the rest later. Kazrog, to me, represents a model of plugin etc. companies. I’ve been using True Iron on every track since it came out, and also use KClip. They are excellent and the prices and support amazing. I’m replacing any plugin I have that phones home, requires iLok, or places the burden of keeping it active on the buyer/user. There are so many great options now, from great companies, Kazrog is one, Tokyo Dawn another, klanghelm, Kush, and many I’m forgetting in the moment. It’s satisfying supporting these companies, and more than satisfying walking away from the others no longer relevant. Plus- great sound!

@mixbustv Год назад

100%< Kazrog is amazing

@djsilent01 Год назад

@@mixbustvI was the exact same. You know I’ve been looking for an Avalon sound. When I saw your face, I was pressing buy at the same time. Lol

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks so much for the kind words! Enjoy the plug ⚡

@JeffKellyMedia Год назад

@@KazrogPluginsnew to all this but I know I don’t want Ilok authorized plug ins. So this plugin does not require ilok specific authorization? Thanks for bringing Avalon to those of who used the hardware years ago

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

@@JeffKellyMedia We don't use iLok. 😎

@benjaminmagambo3849 Год назад

Nailed it! Perfecto!

@Serdy Год назад

Is that last dancehall track released? I've been wanting to hear that whole tune for so long! Who is the artist??

@mixbustv Год назад

Artist is called Levysill and no unfortunately is not released yet, the whole album is amazing

@Serdy Год назад

@@mixbustv 😩

@KarimLeMec Год назад

My GOD! AVALON FINALLY ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

🤘

@AutopsySuiteable Год назад

Shane is the man

@ollykramer3673 Год назад

Sounds great, thank, you David!

@F16-Abrams Год назад

Amazing!

@theweaz9975 Год назад

Your eq smile at 4:35 timeless lol .Great vid

@MeanTrainingMachine Год назад

That top end is worth the price alone

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

she's super smooth up there, enjoy!

@djsilent01 Год назад

Just seeing the Avalon alone... Plugin purchased.... lol Thank you David... This is why I stay subbed to you.... EDIT Purchased and done... I have been LOOKING for this..... UAD can now Truly kick rocks.. lol

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

hope you dig it!

@djsilent01 Год назад

@@KazrogPlugins Cant wait to get started.

@djsilent01 Год назад

@@KazrogPlugins I want the KClip next.. how long will it be on sale? Will it be there on sale still on Friday?

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

yes, still on sale then @@djsilent01

@sleepless2621 Год назад

"i think they nailed it" love to hear it

@ArielNora Год назад

Wow they nailed this! So cool

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thank you!

@jenslempke7883 3 месяца назад

I just love this thing. Just got it and smiled through the first sessions with it.

@brucehathcockmusic Год назад

Thank you so much for this video

@LennonStephens Год назад

The eq on the 737sp has the same vibe, beautiful high end with little phase or weird artifacts, the first time I used it I had to bypass to make sure it was on because I was so used to other eq's.

@mcadder 3 месяца назад

Would be sweet with a mix knob...

@AH20XX Год назад

Damn that Top End brought that magic in a few moves

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

that's the one! thanks!

@spiritsoundzlab7636 2 месяца назад

KAZ……ROCK TRUELY ROCKS!!!

@cmd_f5 Год назад

Nice indeed! I have always enjoyed whatever Kazrog does; their Ampcraft 92 and True series is fantastic. I'l be picking Avalon up soon. great demo! 🎊😁

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks, we appreciate you! make some great music with it ⚡

@cgrcjet Год назад

Just purchased this today. I use a lot of these plugins in my Gig Performer for live applications. This plugin has very low latency which is nice for the application. I also have the 737 coming from my UAD Apollo x8p but in order to use it, i have to run it through the hardware because has a bit of latency. I used the 747 on vocals and acoustic so far. I still have yet to dial in the acoustic but sounds soooo sweet on vocals. Very nice plugin!

@MusicChannel-rf5zz Год назад

How does this compare with the UAD version? Is the 737 a different hardware than the 747?

@PRIDEATH Год назад

The fact no one emulates this other than UAD makes it an automatic buy AND a 30 minute video from David oh boy😆

@djkurtstudio Год назад

I think UAD do the other version . Looks similar but it's a different unit with different eq, etc. 737 I think. Trust me I had the real unit (which I had to sell but wanted it back ever since) and if it's anywhere near close, you deffo want it because I've not heard a plugin that comes even close to it in sound.

@djsilent01 Год назад

Which is exactly why I didnt hesitate to get it.... Its about to get some major work... This just made my day

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks, again!@@djsilent01

@djsilent01 Год назад

@@KazrogPlugins It is my pleasure. I will spread the word. But I'm sure you have the product to do that itself...

@JuanJacinto Год назад

Yes, well. UAD is emulating the 737sp, I wonder if Kazrog will emulate that one as well.

@yourstrulybhargav Год назад

Mind Blown 🤯

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks!

@vektacular 2 месяца назад

Wasn’t the 747 originally made for military communications? I thought I read that when I bought mine.

@mixbustv 2 месяца назад

Military communication stopped being tube based when transistors came along.

@vektacular 2 месяца назад

@@mixbustv hmmm you sure have a lot of knowledge….im sorry, i really thought i read that but i just looked it up and you are correct 👍 ….i love my Avalon a ton!! It is my best piece of hardware!! Thanks for taking your time with my question(s)

@ltjost Год назад

How's the latency and CPU hit...wondering about use in a live mixing situation.

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

This will obviously depend on your CPU, but in general this plugin is designed to be used on many tracks and buses without incident. In a 48 kHz session, the plugin will introduce only 31 samples of latency at 2x oversampling. If you need zero latency, you can disable oversampling, but for this plugin I'd definitely recommend using 2x or higher.

@ltjost Год назад

That's fantastic, thank you! @@KazrogPlugins

@jameswhitaker4357 7 месяцев назад

So... How does this compare to the 737 UAD Emulation? If I had to choose one...? Thank you for the awesome demonstration... Oh okay so this is more for mastering.

@mixbustv 7 месяцев назад

The hardware units were very similar in design, besides the obvious differences, one mono, one stereo, graphic eq vs parametric etc.. I don't know how the UAD sounds but this is a no brainer, one of the best top end in the plugin realm

@jameswhitaker4357 7 месяцев назад

@@mixbustv okay thank you going to definitely get it. So you’d put this in a mastering chain

@SupaMarioJCS Год назад

Dayum!!! Just copped; excited to try!!

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

enjoy!

@BIGCHUNEx Год назад

As soon as I Saw Kazrog 😎

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

🤘⚡

@INVINCIBLE_MIX Год назад

name of the first song please.. Thanks.

@mixbustv Год назад

Melodius - No Sunshine

@hanZoul8 Год назад

I bought and holy cow does it make a difference. Like a cheat code for your master mix and has a lot of good presets

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks for the kind words! Enjoy ⚡

@chocomalk Год назад

I demoed it for 5 min and had to buy it lmao it's sweet!

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks!

@jetn8654 7 месяцев назад

Who is the (last) reggae artist?

@bloozerd Год назад

*sigh*...You've sold another plugin...!...I have to stop watching your channel...!...LOL...NO WAY...Love your work and reviews...!...Thanks David...!!!

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks for picking it up, enjoy!

@MichaelRodriguez-f9y 11 месяцев назад

Nice Video! Love Kazrog plug ins. What sonf is this? Is it released?

@mixbustv 11 месяцев назад

Yes, No Sunshine by Melodius

@mixbustv 11 месяцев назад

USB

@royalinvasionproductionstv6370 Год назад

Would this work well as a levelling comp in series with a fairchild comp for hip hop vocal chain? I know its a subjective question but just curious about other opinons......

@hindihiphop2603 10 месяцев назад

Ypu are my sensei❤

@thomaswithdollars Год назад

How does it compare to the UAD 737, I have it and it since incredible

@emilybeats6556 Год назад

Instant buy

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

thanks so much!

@djsilent01 Год назад

Me too.. didnt even wait.... lol

@jorge.aldape.g Год назад

What song is that?

@fojeba Год назад

I am selling my certified used avalon 747 hardware ; certified by Long & Mcquade

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

wow! thanks!

@JT-qc2nb Год назад

I gotta say, I downloaded the trial. It's good, but I'm by no means blown away. I can get the same results elsewhere.

@IvanLopeztruco Год назад

wow the sound is so nostalgic!! that top end!!!

@KazrogPlugins Год назад

that's the one! hope you enjoy!

@TropicIslandMusic Год назад

OS10.3 compatible good boys

@itsyaboygauge9994 Год назад

This mix sounds so good 💯💪🏽

@GenilsonOficial Год назад

When I saw the price I thought it was just another Avalon interface, but with the reviews I realized that it is indeed possible to produce something cheap and good. Would it be better than UAD?

@mixbustv Год назад

Yes

@MonkeyBars1 Год назад

nice summation of this plug! might want to pick a vocal that's been edited for intonation next time though

@Iconicsoundmusic7 Год назад

This is golden though, especially using this with nebula, for the fact that the unit is not even available anymore

@miltonex Год назад

I love Kclip and now this baby come out Good Job !!!

@phoenixbenjamin 10 месяцев назад

Hey brother great videos🔥 You should make a video giving us a tour of your desk, looks like you got some kool hardware there. I have a dual Raven desk with everything in two big heavy racks & thinking of a secondary desk with the layout you have. Thank you for doing what you do.

@mixbustv 10 месяцев назад

Thank you. A lot of things are misaing here like my 670 and other stuff but it's something ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jbYP8ew6V6U.html he

@JohnGauge790 Год назад

I was blown away by True Iron. This is pretty crazy.

@paulschumachersings Год назад

Thank you, David. Finally I'm understanding the side-chain on this. I have a couple questions. 1) What is the purpose of the threshold going below zero? Does this do expansion below zero? 2) I'm kind of getting that this is not a "channel strip" like the 737 since it has no pre-amp stage? So you would use this after printing the vocal/track clean through a pre-amp of some kind. 3) Is this mainly intended for bus application or for mastering rather than individual channels? Thanks David for another great video!

@mixbustv Год назад

The threshold going below zero allows you to avoid the compressor the be triggered by the respective frequency (range) controlled by that threshold knob. It does: you have a gain, you have a +10, you have the tube signal path. You can use it on 2bus or single tracks, that's the beauty of being a plugin as opposed to have one unit (unless you could afford 4 of them back then) and in that case the most common use was 2bus or a group

@Punk_Mayhem Год назад

Dear @mixbustv firstly I apologies for being off topic, but there’s none other I can think of asking this, suppose I’m using a Mic Simulator like MicSwap or Mic Room from Ik, also I want the mix to have an analog vibe. In one of videos you’ve said that the tape emulation plug-in should be the first in the audio track chain, but I’m kind of confused about what should I put first on the chain, logically the Mic Emulation comes first, ain’t it sensei?

@mixbustv Год назад

That video was probably how to emulate a full analog path in the box. It doesn't apply to any other scenario other than that. Mic sim goes 1st