HOW TO CHECK LIE ANGLES ANYWHERE 

Great video AJ! I like it.... Such a simple inexpensive process you can do at home. I will use this as my First Diagnosis Step to see if I have issues before going to a professional for EXACT fitting and adjustments. I also recognize that what looks like a lie when Stationary may not be the same as a Dynamic lie (when in motion swinging) as your body shifts at impact, some flatter, others, more upright. Your video is great at capturing the correct Dynamic version. 👏

Not only liked. But saved in my golf folder. You’re a legend sir!

Great Video. Just starting to really get into golf and on a budget all the videos are super helpful. Thank you.

I have learned so much from your videos. Thank you so much, keep them coming.

That range looks awesome! Also, great tip.

Fantastic video, answered all my questions about lie, really helpful

Excellent video. Will go out today and check my lie angle. Thanks. Cheers.

More GREAT information!! Thank you.

Brilliant and cheap! Thank you!!

Great tip and method. Thanks

Great idea. Thank you

Magnificent idea brother

Great Video, so easy. Thanks !!

It is pretty easy to make a backyard net using PVC pipe for the frame and either a bought net or a sheet of fabric. A grommet tool makes attaching the sheet of fabric to the frame more durable. I use 1 inch diameter pvc pipe for the frame and a net my former employer, a custom clubmaker, gave me. I attached the net with 12 inch zip ties on the top and sides. A driving range mat is expensive, but unnecessary if you set the immitation grass sheet on dirt. If the dirt is already flat, just lay the immitation grass out and you are done. Concrete to too hard without padding. A.J.'s mat has padding. If the dirt is not level and/or rocky, dig a 2 inch deep hole the size of the immitation grass piece, sift it to get the rocks out, level out the dirt with a rake and lay the immitation grass on top. If it is SLIGHTLY lumpy, that is more realistic and better practice. I bought imitation grass 5' x 7' for $1 per square foot - under $40. It works great. A decent driving range mat costs hundreds of dollars.

I’ve been reading that a straight up and down line is less important than the desired ball flight. It’s ok for the club to be a little flat or upright (not more than a few degrees) if the flight is what you’re looking for.

I checked this after your previous video Clubs were straight up and down.

Great stuff as always!

Great idea thank you

Great looking swing! ⛳🏌️ And awesome advice!

Great tip! Thanks

Awesome !!! Thanks

Great video mate👍

great tip.. nice

How much can an iron be adjusted safely? Most specify a limit of 2 degrees of adjustment. If one wants to build a test club that's 3 or 4 degrees upright, how does one do that? Is buying a ping w/ the color code for that lie angle the only/safest option?

Fantastic option. I have a lie board, but like this method better.

Great video....I am heading for the back yard! I am also going to re-shaft one of my irons to see if what the fitter told me will work. Replacing graphite A flex shaft with regular steel shaft 65 grams to 85 grams...just wondering what effect that will have on swing weight....any hints?

Very smart ..Thank You Very Much

You def were on Superstore!

Brilliant.

If you colour the bottom of club with the sharpie, and hit off mat you will do same as a lue board, in that it will wear an area, either on toe or in middle or on heal.

I came across this video and find it a great way to check my lie angles. I use a single plane swing similar to DeChambeau. With this flatter swing, do you think that I would benefit with a couple of degrees flatter lie angle?

My Irons were fitted for the rotational swing. Since then I have adopted the single plane swing, Bryson DeChambeau, Moe Norman, Todd Graves. Do I need to change the lie on my irons for the new swing? Cordially, Bill

I am looking to get a new set of clubs and im interested in the takomo irons because of the price. I've been fitted for mizuno irons and I'd need them 2 degrees upright but titleist T200s I would be standard. How do I know what lie angle to go for when ordering from a company like takomo?

Found you recently and appreciate your knowledge. When hitting on mats at the range I always notice green material on the toe of my irons. Without doing your lie test I imagine I need my clubs to be more upright. In your opinion how much is the proper amount to have the lie set more upright? TIA

AJ I was thinking of trying the XXIO 12X lightweight club with counter balance, it's forged with Titanium face. The guy in the shop said these irons could not be adjusted for lie angle. I thought as they are forged it wouldn't't be a problem, you know anything about XXIO 12X ??

You did a video with Mr Short game regarding the Fujikura shafts. Do you have a line on these shafts because they are hard to find on eBay and Amazon Thank you Keith

From your experience, is it something that does vary when using different sets of irons? Say, your current irons are 2 degrees upright the line is straight, and you want to purchase another set of irons. Would ordering them 2 degrees upright as well be a safe bet?

Would you suggest maybe doing this 3-4 times just to get a good average? I know I don't always get the club back to the same position every time I swing.

Fantastic video!! Random question.. if youve had your clubs adjusted to a certain lie from the factory (e.g. new irons at +1degree upright), can you still have them rebent again, eg to 1 degree flat ? I.e. is there a limit in regard to how many times you can adjust the lies without weakening the structural integrity of the club?

AJ maybe you e already answered my question: what “home style” lie adjustment tool would you suggest? Thx great info

AJ, what do you think about shading the sole of the club when hitting off a mat to see if you are brushing the heal or the toe rather than the flat of the iron?

Hey AJ, loved this video. I didn't realize how "flat" my irons were until I performed your exercise! I assumed I was swinging through the ball the same as at address. I measured the dynamic angle of impact of two clubs. My 52º wedge (Factory lie 64.1º) and 45º PW (Factory lie 63º). Both had the same angled lines imprinted. Can you explain, and I have an image to share, where vertical to the grooves is 90º and my imprinted impact angles are roughly 80º, does the club fitter correct the lie 10º for my swing or the discrepancy between the factory lie which is roughly 16º?

Would you recommend this for a total beginner who’s swing/form is not good? Not sure

We need to set lie angle to +/- 1/2 degree. While the line can be measured to this amount on the club face, But there is no way we can combine the lay of the land and the verticality of the golf ball on the ground to even a couple of degrees. Is it good if you are off by 4 or five degrees? Yes this will help. The only real way is to watch the ball flight.

Sounds way better than lie board

Can you address if the line is high and low ? Struggling with high face contact wondering what club component ie shaft heavy vs light or length could cause thid

Hi does anyone change putter shafts have not heard anyone talk about it 👍🏾⛳️

Awesome! Thank you so much for sharing this with us! 👍⛳

At the 450 mark, you say that it needs to be a little bit more flat or upright. But you lean the club flat (for more upright) and more upright (for more flat). So should I just rely on the metrics in the graphic?

BRILLIANT ! Your saying IF THE CLUB IS TOO FLAT, the player will come into the ball more "upright", and IF THE CLUB IS TOO UPRIGHT, the player will come into the ball more "flat"?

Any way to check loft angles without special equipment?

could it not mean that I just got too steep or flat in my swing and I need a lesson before altering my clubs? Thanks for your info

Where is that driving range?, it's very nice.

Can to much of an upright angle cause topping the ball more?

Thanks! Now how can I bend my clubs at home to get the lie angles dialed in? Any tips on a homemade club bending setup?

Now if I can just remember to carry masking tape and dry erase markers with me! 🤣 Great information AJ! What part of the country are you and Can someone make an appointment to come see you?

That iron you use looks very flat on the bottom (@4:40) which in my opinion is not a good design. Contrast that to the new Stealth irons that have a slight curvature on the bottom of the head. That curvature is there to account for small inaccuracies in the lie angle, and for various non-flat lies on the course. So yes, you should adjust the lie properly, as close as you can (knowing it will never be perfect) but the club needs to have some curvature on the bottom too. Interesting that not all manufacturers have curvature on the bottom, even the major ones are different (Hot Metals = Launcher XL = very flat, Rogue=Stealth =curved, for example).

How often will the lie angle change as you play rounds of golf?

Most adjustments to lie angles are in the 1 to 2 degree range. I've found this method doest work that well because 1) I might not draw a straight line 2) I cannot position the ball on the ground so the line is perfectly vertical 3) My path and face are not always zero and zero, if they are not the line will not be vertical 4) I can't tell whether the line transfered to the club face is vertical or tilted by 1 or 2 degrees. For people that have a plastic chopping board at home, these work perfectly as lie boards.

I think you had the adjustments backwards?

I reckon those balls are on the roof of the house behind you AJ lol 😂 grate information again mate thanks 👌

Oh, also, it looks like the toe is in an upright position. I have a very shallow plane.

Appreciate your videos, thank you. Over the years, I have found that irons go out of lie angle more often than I would have thought. A video by George Knudson, stated that the butt of the club is the same height off the ground through the set. This led me to conclusion that if I aligned my clubs with soles flat on a level surface all of the butt ends should be the same height from the floor. Once you find the ideal lie angle for yourself simply use the height of the butt end from the ground as the template for all the others and bend where necessary. cheers 14:17 "designed so butt end same distance from the ground" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4-j5fOfsxqo.html

Correct lie angle of your entire set,anywhere, anytime without any tools in a few minutes. As George Knudsen stated in his classic video, The Natural Golf Swing, golf clubs are designed to be the same height above the ground at the butt end, (when soled level on the ground). ie our hands are in the same position for every golf club. Find the club you hit best, most consistently, then note height of butt end is from the ground with sole level to the ground. Every other club should have butt the same height from the ground. if not, bend until every club has butt the same height from the ground(floor) We are forever indebted. Thank you, George. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4-j5fOfsxqo.html

What dictates an individuals lie angle? I know height and arm and leg length play a role but doesn't his/her swing also play a role and maybe they should be fixing their swing and not making lie angle changes.

Well done, lie boards are useless.

This guy loves masking tape

Why not just get closer or further away ? Better surely to work with what youve got . From a learning point of view anyway .

Ben Hogan played with irons 6 degrees flat! The toe cuts and the heel digs. Hogan took half the course out of play.

Tried this in the golf store and left marks all over the projector screen lol

Lie angle is useless in terms of physics. You set your lie angle on a flat surface. Then you go to the golf course where there isn’t a single flat surface in sight. Not even a tee box is perfectly flat.

Never seen such blatent early extension lol

Good information, but this should be no more than a 4 or 5 minute video.