you seem to have a problem in the general area stacksizesmatters. also, how is it unlikely no one donks trips or a king on the flop, how would the bb niet squeeze QQ- its hard for me to believe you make money
I subscribed to your channel maybe 5 years ago and for the last two years i didn't have a single video by you in my subscription feed. Nice that you are still doing this.
Hi Alec, being out of position in that spot makes perfect sense to check the K and wait for a bet from the preflop raiser. On the river I would have bet around a third of the pot to get value too. But if I was bluffing the previous hand against this player and he saw the bluff I would have over bet the pot to get max value if he thinks I’m bluffing again. 👍🏻
It was a good bet size. Only other option is to check, as if you made a feeler bet on the turn to see who had something. Then aborted mission on the river. He might try to bluff or bet more than your sizing which could yield a bigger profit when you call.
I like small ball bets in a situation like this like Alex did. There's a chance someone could be trapping with a better hand and you don't want to get greedy and lose too much in this situation. Still, kings is a good hand and it did look like everyone had air or near air. By the river you're only losing to a jack or aces so it makes sense to make a bet that can be called by a worse hand.
Jeremy Standiford what better hands are there? On the river Alec has the nuts, the way the hand was played AA not in villains range , J would bet at some point before river and there is 1 jack remaining on river making it even less likely
Nice video! Quick question: Although you were blocking KJ and QJ, why were you not at all worried anyone could have a J? I feel like the BB is checking his entire range here, which includes any J. Do you feel that the multi-way pot would have enticed the CO/BTN to Cbet/bet respectively? I’m relieved knowing that I probably would have taken the same line as you here, but on the flop and turn, I would have been more worried that there’s the chance I’m being slowplayed.
Firstly, the more jacks that are on the board, the less likely anyone has one. Secondly, if someone has one you will find out about it pretty quickly if and when you get raised. In live poker people don't tend to raise-bluff in these spots very often, so you can be comfortable until you have reason not to be. Thirdly, you have top pair and since AK would likely have three bet pre-flop, it's really only in the preflop raisers range. When you get called on the turn you can say that flush draws and weaker kings make up more of your opponent's range.
There's a chance yes, but you have to weigh that against all the other hands he can have. In short, one should devise their strategy to the major part of their opponent's range.
Hi Alec. I would appreciate your opinion on two poker related questions What percentage of the elite players do you think that plays on the heads up format seriously ? How many serious online poker players players are there?
his only options are if he has air is re raise you because he thinks you have air, or just fold. If he has the flush, well, he'll either re raise again if he thinks you have air or call. Or of course if he has a king he may call or re raise. Or he may think you have the boat or better due to your medium raise hoping he will call.
Hi Alec , Even though I only play PLO I love watching your content and use some of your theories in PLO as well. Great content - Short and crisp.Just wanted to enquire its off topic but are there good plo games at the wynn and I play 10/20 us generally. Thanks and keep up with videos. great content
My question: If the river was a 8 of spades instead of the J, and now you have two pair vs. a potential made flush, how do you bet the river? (Or do you?)
Alec, what are you talking about??? You say no one bet the flop, so you decided they don't have K or J, or a set..!!!..It is a strange conclusion, considering that you hit the K, and checked the flop...!!!..You must live in a different planet, because there is a good possibility that with several players in the hand, someone could be slow playing.
There's only one combo of KK and only 4 combos of AK. For the Jx combos there's only 28 total combos if you add in JT. There's far more Ax hands and pairs that would have raised and/or called, and the preflop raiser likely bets AA on the flop hoping to get called by Kx. So his donk after it checked the flop let's him know where he's at in the hand and sets it up for a good value bet on the river.
The only ones that could have a decent amount of Kx and Jx are SB and BB. But they can't have AK. CO would bet AK or better and BTN is gonna bet good Kx (that KQ beats) and a lot of Jx.
True, although I'm first to act, so of course I'm checking a Kx hand. I'm saying the preflop raiser is likely going to bet a King or Jack, being in position, with draws on the board and having the lead in the hand. Ranges change based on the player.
In discussing his range, is there never consideration given to vilan potentially trapping with a Jack. Does card removal dictate that never goes into consideration unless he is aggressively raising on later streets?
@cyrus Ofc someone could be trapping here, but the majority of the times, especially on a wet board like this, ppl play very straightforward. If someone raises here on the turnbet, Alec has to revalue the situation and play accordingly. As it’s only the initial raiser that calls, the riverbet makes a lot of sense to get as much value as possible since his range is capped due to his check on the flop. And as Alec says, vs weak players, bet big, they have this strange mentality to always call no matter the bet size as long as they have 88 lol. Alec, you forgot to mention that as a caller in this situation you’re supposed to call x percentage of the times when you have a bluffcatcher, and you’re supposed to loose sometimes. But in the long run, if you do it right, you’ll profit! And as always, love your vlogs 👌👌
This video just shows that you have no clue about GTO play, Alec. If villain's range is full of bluffcatchers you must go for a big bet size, villain still would need to call with some part of his range, regardless of your betsizing it would be a mistake for him to fold everything. If you have a solver, put the ranges in and see for yourself. And regardless of GTO, don't you know that when you have range advantage you should go for bigger bet size?
Why do I keep losing at low stakes poker to 1 to 4 outers? I raise pre get 2 callers. Utg leads I call button calls Q88 turn 3 utg leads I call off button mucks. I show KK utg says you got me river Q. Utg QJoff. This has happened to me every time I play in the last 6 months. What am I missing?
Thanks Alex for the video. Quick question - shouldn't the gto bet sizing be bigger when bluffing compared to value betting? logic being your opponent finds it harder to call, and hence you can accommodate more bluffs? what you did there felt like exploitative - if he calling a 30% bet, he is calling a 50% bet too..i may be completely wrong, would really appreciate your response..thanks
I try to go exploitative here in spots like these, but you could be right. 50% may have better long term sizing if he's always calling. We'll never know!
thanks for the content, but let’s be honest, he could have slowed played AJ,KJ,AA. Now if he checks raise , what would you do , every theory just makes sense when you simply have better hand.xD
@alec torelli poker I bet 1/6 of the pot as I want to play as "low stakes" as possible, and almost never bet preflop and I definitely never re raise preflop, is that bad?
Yes it is bad. You are losing money because of this strategy in long run. Bet sizing is one of the most important things in poker. Later you will realize that everything is about sizing and ranges.
