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How to Compose Cinematic Music (in a Film/TV Drama Underscore style) 

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@CheapCharlieMusic
@CheapCharlieMusic Год назад
I make music since 30 years and still learn from your videos, thank you !!!
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
That's awesome! So pleased to hear that, thank you for the feedback.
@canaldemais
@canaldemais 2 года назад
This is the best composing channel. I keep going back to all your video to help me improve my compositions. I would love a video on how to modulate from one key to another. Maybe a video on Chromatic mediants (kinda of what you did in you Fantasy/magical chords vid). Maybe some breakdown/analysis of famous film scores to help us understand how composers have used different orchestrations effectively. thanks for all your hard work
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Thanks so much for your kind words! Great idea - I'll make sure to make a video on Chromatic Mediants. I would love to do an analysis and breakdown of famous film scores - I just don't quite understand how using existing scores will work with RU-vid and Copyright :-)
@Po1itica11yNcorrect
@Po1itica11yNcorrect 2 года назад
I learn more from this channel than all the other channels combined.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Wow, thank you so much for the kind words!
@Najibhusein
@Najibhusein 2 года назад
Great video tutorial... very clear
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Many thanks - I hope it was helpful!
@Andrewtm23
@Andrewtm23 Год назад
wow that was really nice mate. It totally sounds like a Newman piece.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
Thank you!
@noefernandezyt
@noefernandezyt Год назад
Beautiful composition Simon. Best regards!
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
Many thanks!
@M4T
@M4T 2 года назад
I am so happy. At last a tuto on Thomas Newman harmonies .... Thanks so much for that !
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Haha thanks for watching!
@yvanroustan4426
@yvanroustan4426 2 года назад
Very clean and complete explanation ! thank you ! i hope this thematic serie will continue !
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Thank you - yes there will definitely be more!
@seethewaitofficial5137
@seethewaitofficial5137 2 года назад
I just found your channel yesterday and it has been very helpful. I'm really interested in composing for films/games but since I'm a student with no money, your vids are the best resource. Keep it up! 🔥
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
I'm glad you have found the videos useful - good luck with your composing journey!
@EdokLock
@EdokLock 2 года назад
I feel like this channel is a teaser for what is greater, I can't wait !
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Haha watch this space!
@brockbah2048
@brockbah2048 Год назад
Wow, it's just that easy! Followed your "how to" and landed the new Avengers score. A+ not clickbait
@dreamvinestudio
@dreamvinestudio 2 года назад
Awesome stuff! I've been looking for tutorials like this for weeks. So happy I found your channel. Thank you!
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Thanks so much - I hope it proves useful!
@Kaissa13
@Kaissa13 2 года назад
Thank you Simon. I love your videos!
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@Frank.Zimmermann
@Frank.Zimmermann 2 года назад
Oh Simon, how could anyone not love your channel. I suspect your subscriber numbers will go up dramatically in the coming months, and for absolutely good reason. :) Thank you so much for another fantastic tutorial! Best regards, Frank
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Hi Frank, thank you so much for your kind words! It's been a lot of fun so far, so I'm hoping the channel will keep on growing!
@jimrogers7425
@jimrogers7425 2 года назад
This is a very brilliant demo of composing a piece with specific guidelines that anyone can apply. So glad that I came up your channel and have subscribed! Cheers!
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Many thanks for the subscription, and I'm glad you found the video useful!
@niklasroste4512
@niklasroste4512 2 года назад
Beautiful, and thanks for doing this. 👍
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
@camelCased
@camelCased Год назад
Your videos are of much better quality and usefulness than some paid courses on Udemy. You go straight to the point without redundant repetition and keep the right balance between theory and practice throughout the entire video so that even beginners can relate to the emotions of chord progressions without knowing much of the music theory.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
Thank you for your positive comments, I really appreciate feedback and pleased you have found this useful!
@GreenHope42
@GreenHope42 2 года назад
Sounds good well done. It reminds me a bit of the score from American Beauty.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Thank you - yes I love that score!
@ashokflash
@ashokflash 2 года назад
thank you, give more videos.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Thanks for watching - yes more are planned!
@kpgonline4995
@kpgonline4995 2 года назад
Your methods are super. Thank you for this awesome teaching. Now I can make good music for my films. I make shorts for now
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Thank you so much - yes the style of the piece, could well work in a short film, depending on the genre of the film of course. Good luck!
@Edcabraltv
@Edcabraltv Год назад
It's beautiful man. Thanks for sharing you talent with us
@madeinfelingen260
@madeinfelingen260 2 года назад
Very inspiring and great piece of music! Thanks for sharing!
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
My pleasure - thanks for watching!
@sprkymrt
@sprkymrt 2 года назад
Thank you very much. I will print out the pdf and go over it to analyze the score again and watch the video again for more study. Your videos are very interesting and entertaining. Enjoyed.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Thanks so much for watching and for grabbing the score!
@GavinNellist
@GavinNellist 2 года назад
Such a really nice piece of music. I know if I had tried to compose that I would have made it so overley complicated.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Haha! Yes keeping it simple is actually really hard to do :-)
@omarirm
@omarirm 2 года назад
Simplemente excelente. Tus tutoriales de composición son los mejores de todo RU-vid. Gracias!!!
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Oh wow, thank you so much for your kind words!
@martijnvanbeek4387
@martijnvanbeek4387 2 года назад
Totally agree!
@danielrennie8444
@danielrennie8444 2 года назад
Hey Simon! Fantastic video as usual! Hope the family is doing well too. I really like the concept of taking inspiration from other composers like you did in this video. It'd be a cool idea to do something similar with other composers like John Williams, Danny Elfman, Henry Jackman, Alan Silvestri, Howard Shore, Michael Giacchino, James Newton Howard, and of course my favorite, Hans Zimmer :) (also a fan of Harry Gregson-Williams Williams from this video). Your channel definitely deserves more credit and more views/subs because you do great work and explain in a clear, easy-to-understand manner that I'm sure a lot of people appreciate! Please keep it up for as along as you can and thank you!
@jimrogers7425
@jimrogers7425 2 года назад
Hey Daniel... funny that you should mention Michael Giacchino. Back in 2004, before he had reached the heights that he has now, he was scoring the show ALIAS in his garage... and a friend of mine hired me to help him install Michael's upgrade studio. At the time ALIAS alternated weeks... one week was all synth scoring and the next week was live orchestra. This was back in the days when soft samplers were just beginning and there were still a TON of outboard synth modules generating heat in this San Fernando Valley garage. He was married with two sons at the time and for some reason I don't feel like that marriage lasted, in spite of his career heading off into the stratosphere!
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Hi Daniel - many thanks for your message. Yes I think I'm definitely going to explore the concept of taking inspiration from other composers more, as if anything, its really fun for me to learn from them myself!
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Hi Jim - yes Michael is amazing. I was lucky enough to intern with him for an episode of LOST back in the day, as part of the film scoring program at USC. He was writing so much music so quickly for that show! Easy to imagine all of that outboard generating heat!
@tb9383
@tb9383 Год назад
Thank you for this... I have no formal orchestration knowledge and this has completely changed the way I compose tracks for cinematic pieces.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
I am so pleased I could help, thank you for watching!
@kaustavacharya
@kaustavacharya Год назад
What a beautiful piece! You're a fantastic composer and teacher, I would love to listen to more of your music.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
Thank you so much, that means a lot!
@issiewizzie
@issiewizzie 2 года назад
great education just discovered your Chanel
@Tsskyx
@Tsskyx Год назад
This reminds me of the Samsung Onyx Explainer video, whose music became one of my all time favorite short cinematic pieces.
@gravidotrueno5786
@gravidotrueno5786 Год назад
Man, you are brilliant as a composer and as a teacher as well. I sincerely appreciate you spend time in sharing your knowledge. The way you explain is unique and very fresh. Looking forward for every video you upload.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
Hi, really appreciate the positive feedback, thank you! I am so pleased you have found my channel so useful!
@TheBubbajuju
@TheBubbajuju 2 года назад
Just wanted to say thanks for the channel and best wishes. Just subscribed. Really helpful videos. Cheers.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Many thanks for the subscription - I'm glad you found the video useful!
@Tanmayomusicvisuals
@Tanmayomusicvisuals Год назад
stunning music, super clear teaching…thank you…I’m learning sooo much from you.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
I am so pleased you are finding the videos useful, thank you for the comment!
@WaltMusekamp
@WaltMusekamp 2 года назад
Thanks for another helpful and informative tutorial! Interesting that you are using 3-measure phrases for your piece. The long chords seem to give it more suspense. I like the effect!
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Thanks for watching! I was conscious that this style of music might very well have a lot of dialogue to content with, if it was written to a specific film/scene. Giving more 'space' , by using the 3 measure phrases would hopefully help to achieve the space.
@WaltMusekamp
@WaltMusekamp 2 года назад
@@composingacademy8270 Interesting! I imagine you could shorten or lengthen the held chords as needed and still keep the overall structure intact.
@kukuruyukyukyuk
@kukuruyukyukyuk Год назад
This is really informative and helpful. Thank you
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
Glad it was helpful, thank you for watching!
@brianvassallomusic
@brianvassallomusic 2 года назад
Very good. I like your channel. Keep creating and here is a list of what you might consider posting here : Composing with moving picture, Mixing, EQ, Mastering the whole track.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Hi Brian, thanks for the feedback. Great ideas for content there -I'll add them to the list!
@netuno_music
@netuno_music Год назад
That's a great tutorial. Very well done. Thank you
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
Glad it was helpful, thank you for watching!
@1Brayton
@1Brayton Год назад
Wonderful video! You should make these start to finish composition type of videos more regularly. They're really helpful and inspiring! Cheers bro, great day ahead!
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
That's the plan, I will get better at uploading these videos quicker, promise! Thank you for watching!
@HaharuRecords
@HaharuRecords Год назад
Great tutorial, also I THINK UNDERSTANDING Modes or different emotions in harmony and keys is very necessary for specifically film music.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
Hi, totally agree. I have two other videos, which might be worth taking a look. The Lydian Mode for Beginners & How Thomas Newman makes use of Modes. Thanks for watching!
@klaasastley3767
@klaasastley3767 Год назад
This piece is beautiful
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
Thank you!
@Flutedhana
@Flutedhana Год назад
Very helpful,inspiring and learning,Thanks a lot!
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it!
@ZsigmondKaraMusic
@ZsigmondKaraMusic 2 года назад
Everybody lies. (absolutely superb video as always!) Edit: typo
@tuck295q
@tuck295q 2 года назад
This is amazing, do you have any idea how long I've been trying to find the exact guideline you did here? Years. If possible, please do more of this series with 6/8 6/4 5/4 5/8 10/8 11/8. Would you please teach me how to do very hype building transitions and bridges? Thankyou.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Thank you! I'm the video was useful. When I do another one on percussion, I'll make sure to include the time signatures you mentioned.
@nielssamuels5465
@nielssamuels5465 2 года назад
Hi Simon. Thanks for this video!! Most information or cources on composing with vst's seem to be about creating that godawful "EPIC" or "TRAILER" sound, not something delicate as this piece. Hope to see more of this!
@Andydemelo
@Andydemelo Год назад
Thank you.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
You are welcome, thank you for watching!
@coloaten6682
@coloaten6682 2 года назад
This is such an inspirational video, thanks so much Simon! I'm new to composing and didn't know how to start composing at a beginner level so this video was exactly what I was looking for. I'm going to get started tomorrow morning writing my first piece! Happy to be a new subscriber. P.S. Have you started using Soundpaint yet? Troels has created something special!
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Hi Col, my pleasure! Let me know how you get on! Re Soundpaint, no I haven't checked it out yet - I definitely will though!
@sharmarustam
@sharmarustam Год назад
Please play every instrument you add seperately so that we get an idea how they sound
@seva-m
@seva-m 11 месяцев назад
This is really helpful, thanks! Any insight on how sync licensing work for cinematic composers these days? Is it worth it, or is it better to just look for a job in local film studios? What do you think?
@martijnvanbeek4387
@martijnvanbeek4387 2 года назад
How do I know whether I have seen your videos? Quite simple: I just have to watch if I put a thumb up :):)
@Dimitar_Genov
@Dimitar_Genov Год назад
What kind of movie scene / storybeat could this music be used for...? I picture handheld camerawork, rain, person inside a train, filmed from the outside thru a glass with raindrops, lowkey, desaturated colors, they're working on something on their laptop; they look outside into the distance and ponder on the meaning of their work; the journey continues, another aerial shot of the train.... 😊 so fun thinking of possible scenes to music ❤😊
@user-wm7fd6hb3p
@user-wm7fd6hb3p 2 года назад
neat! thumbs up!!!!
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Thank you so much!
@ThierryChamps
@ThierryChamps Год назад
Hi Simon, Awesome stuff! Thanks a lot. Why Thomas Newman don't use often the third like in your exemple. Also, there is a lot of parallel fifths? I heard is "not good". What do you think?
@thenorthstar311
@thenorthstar311 Год назад
❤🔥
@isaacsamuelwong
@isaacsamuelwong 2 года назад
Great video. I like to ask, how did you change the accidentals from sharps* to flats* in your MIDI Editor in Cubase?
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Hi Isaac, there is a checkbox in Edit - Preferences. Under 'Event Display' select 'Chords and Pitches' and on there will be a checkbox called 'Enharmonics from Chord Track' which needs to be ticked. I hope that helps!
@pjdahmen
@pjdahmen 2 года назад
Great tutorial
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Many thanks!
@mfmmm1497
@mfmmm1497 2 года назад
Brilliant Simon. Are you thinking of doing a course or do you offer online 1on1 lessons?
@ricardohernandez2771
@ricardohernandez2771 2 года назад
Gracias!
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
My pleasure!
@isaiahmonroe3886
@isaiahmonroe3886 Год назад
Hi, what’s the name of the app you do this on? It looks pretty awesome!
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
Its Cubase Pro 11 - an awesome DAW :-)
@clairecooper1754
@clairecooper1754 2 года назад
Great video, thank you. What did you mean at the beginning where you say it is "modal and ambiguous" please? | know what modes are (and what you mean by ambiguous), but don't recognise a modal sound I think. Is it C mixolyian?
@autisticcormorant6881
@autisticcormorant6881 2 года назад
You could try thinking about it as being in C major and simply borrowing chords from parallel modes that include the nots Ab, Bb and Eb (In this case only C-minor has the notes to make up Ab and Bb). C-mixolydian only has Bb, so you can't really say that's the mode :) Theory can help and certainly has helped me, but sometimes it's just about trying things outside the scale you're composing in and figuring out how they sound. I find that in C-major some interesting chords to borrow are: D, E, Eb, Fm, F#, Gm, Ab, Bb, B, Bm, and then of course you can try using diminished, augmented and all sorts of extensions and suspensions to get interesting sounds. I'm just a guy who thinks this is fun, but hope it helps in some way :)
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Thanks for reaching out - I mentioned both 'modal' and 'ambiguous' as an attempt to describe that I didn't want the music to feel rooted in a particular major/minor key, as there's no obvious major/minor key centre. Upon reflection maybe that wasn't the clearest way of describing my composing process. When composing I will often consciously ignore music theory, trying to free myself of any constraints. I often am just playing around trying chords out without being restricted to any particular key or indeed mode. Or another way of describing is that I will often treat all major/minor chords (24 in an octave) as all potential candidates. I find this can present new melodic patterns as well, which I may not have discovered, if I stuck to a particular key. I hope that helps!
@clairecooper1754
@clairecooper1754 2 года назад
Yes that makes perfect sense to follow you ears. I was getting caught up in modal neediness! Thank you.
@clairecooper1754
@clairecooper1754 2 года назад
@@autisticcormorant6881 Yes, theory can make hinder sometimes. Thank you.
@autisticcormorant6881
@autisticcormorant6881 2 года назад
To someone who's planning on getting cubase Pro eventually, what DAW would you recommend that's cheap or free to use until Cubase Pro can be gotten? Thanks :D
@BellsCuriosityShop
@BellsCuriosityShop 2 года назад
I use Reaper and can recommend. No included instruments though.
@autisticcormorant6881
@autisticcormorant6881 2 года назад
@@BellsCuriosityShop Yeah that's pretty cheap I suppose. Don't mind paying for some good instruments, cause I'm assuming I can just transfer those to Cubase when I eventually get that. Right?
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Hi Malleboy122, sorry I had meant to reply to your message from a few days ago about this. Have you considered using Cubase Elements or Artist? I use Elements when I'm teaching students in school and it seems pretty feature rich. The main limitations I've found is the amount of tracks you can load, but it would definitely be useful in learning the main functions of Cubase. Any sample libraries you buy would be able to be used in versions of Cubase.
@roggo_x
@roggo_x 2 года назад
Hi, im new to this channel, very good video, but i dont read musical notation , so please show the midi notes of each track at least 2-3 seconds (i pause de video) to see de midi notes, or share the midi file, or cubase project better, thx
@Ioan_S
@Ioan_S 2 года назад
Great tutorial SImon! When is the tutorial for epic musics? ^^'
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Thank you! It's on the list! :-)
@jaminschmitt
@jaminschmitt Год назад
Arpeggios. Lots and lots of arpeggios.
@radiozelaza
@radiozelaza 2 года назад
Very MessageInABottly
@Trimer771
@Trimer771 2 года назад
Thank you. Great video. How did you write C5 and F5 in the chord track? Thanks for the answer.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Good question - as the Cubase chord track doesn't have the function of being to write open 5th chords, they are actually blank midi regions instead, which I've individually renamed.
@Trimer771
@Trimer771 2 года назад
@@composingacademy8270 Ah, thanks. Good idea.
@PramodKumar-js8nw
@PramodKumar-js8nw 2 года назад
How create own tunes
@rickhood
@rickhood 2 года назад
One question I have: this sounds like something that someone else may possibly have already composed. Is there a good method to try to find out if this is too close to something someone else has already done? I am not sure Shazam would work, but maybe? Do composers have a favorite method for figuring this out?
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
I'm not aware of any service/method, but it would be extremely useful to me if there was one. I often have doubts if a melody I have written has been composed before. One thing I always do is 'sleep' on it, listening the next day with fresh ears, to see if my perspective has changed. I will also play something to loved ones to see if they think it sounds familiar. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, but if you find a service, do let me know!
@martijnvanbeek4387
@martijnvanbeek4387 2 года назад
@@composingacademy8270 Hi Simon, here's a huge admirer of your work;) In one of his music courses Guy Michelmore says he has a good friend with a huge knowledge base in music which he consults about music he has written. If this guy (another one than Guy) says: it's okay, then Guy can trust the music he has written doesn't infringe on anybody elses music. You need to have a 'guy' or 'gal'!
@martijnvanbeek4387
@martijnvanbeek4387 2 года назад
...anybody else their music
@AliasgarVirdiwala5253
@AliasgarVirdiwala5253 2 года назад
Sir please while initiating teaching us, mention scale, candences, and how you chose the chords
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 2 года назад
Thank you for the feedback - I'll make sure to talk about those in future videos!
@AliasgarVirdiwala5253
@AliasgarVirdiwala5253 2 года назад
@@composingacademy8270 Thank u so much sir
@allensojan9048
@allensojan9048 Год назад
Can i know which kontakt libraires are used in it? Please reply
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
Hi Allen, firstly apologies for the delay in replying! There's a few different sample libraries - the Piano is Emotional Piano from Soundiron and the Malmsjo from Art Vista. The pad sounds are mostly from Omnisphere with the strings mostly from Spitfire Audio's Chamber Strings. Finally for the plucked sounds I'm using a lot of Spitfire Audio's free Labs range in this piece. I hope that helps!
@bonbonpony
@bonbonpony Год назад
01:07 Yeah, but why these particular chords? I don't suppose you just picked them at random, but you never explained HOW did you pick them and HOW do they do what they do; what's their ROLE in the composition.
@ISLANDGAMERx
@ISLANDGAMERx Год назад
Can you make a tutorial without the use of the expensive vsts:? some of us can't afford these libraries lol
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
Yes, definitely plan to. I am a big believer in making composing available to all so a fan of free VST's!
@user-eq8nf1dp1r
@user-eq8nf1dp1r Год назад
Hi Simon, can you please tell me what software are you using
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
Hi, the main software I'm using us Cubase Pro 11
@sanjaycolaco
@sanjaycolaco Год назад
I am going to stick to your channel - your pace of teaching is good. Try to include info about - why use a particular instrument to create which mood or why use a certain rhythm to convey which mood? In most of the videos that I have seen on RU-vid, the "WHY" part is not satisfactorily answered.
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
Hi, appreciate the suggestion. I will try and incorporate the Why more in future videos. Thank you for watching!
@karaoke6861
@karaoke6861 Год назад
stock music
@DrGameTazo
@DrGameTazo Год назад
little like radiohead ..
@composingacademy8270
@composingacademy8270 Год назад
Interesting, haven't compared the two but will take a listen. Thanks for watching!
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