The Orchestration Method that ALWAYS Works

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Alain Mayrand joins me to explain how to orchestrate from 4-part writing.
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@RyanLeach Год назад

*OUTSTANDING* composition courses tinyurl.com/scoreclubryan

@Crimzan4 Год назад

Joined scoreclub a few months ago because of your feedback to Alain's Orchestrating the Line. Indeed gorgeous courses!

@DavidRupp27 Год назад

Another happy ScoreClub recommendee here. I've also gotten a lot from the counterpoint courses, and am looking forward to the courses on motivic and modal mastery.

@aaronaragon7838 Год назад

Intetesting...what tools do I need?

@MrPanetela 9 месяцев назад

hope you don't mind too much if i took liberties on your melody and transform it into what i title as Dracula Waltz. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-my8mW1dYWA0.html wish you and yours a great wonderful future

@ad.ke.7224 Год назад

I am self-taught and started with four-part writing to learn harmony and voice leading. It's the basis for everything I write to this day, even if it gets jazzier. Greetings from Germany.

@triPocoPi9576 Год назад

Also self taught, I just test chords to see if they sound right. Haven’t written much though.

@enrajgro1723 Год назад

Welche Software benutzt du um so etwas umzusetzen? Ich habe schon eine DAW und eine Software aber vielleicht gibt es so etwas auch speziell für ein Orchester.

@ad.ke.7224 Год назад

@@enrajgro1723 Ich nutze Sibelius. Ich bin eher traditionell. Ich habe auch cubase, aber eher für Mixing und Recording.

@esjel9804 11 месяцев назад

Same here. I fell in love with Bach's coral pieces and his fugues, transcribing them for fun, studied Joseph Fux counterpoint, and that's given me enough chops to do whatever I want. Favorite orchestrators are: Ravel, Respighi, Wagner, Korsakov and John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith

@Stoneeeeemo 11 месяцев назад

@@VictorToh3xvii it's good but far from getting anywhere near what they made in this video

@DandGBears Год назад

Dynamics are more of an attitude than volume control!!! That’s soooooo insightful thank you!

@Erouns-nf3rj 5 дней назад

Thank you so much for the tips! I’m trying to write a piece for my middle school orchestra, and this really helps out!

@biganswershack 10 месяцев назад

Excellent principles of orchestration taught here. I'd just like to mention that when doubling the bass line at the lower octave (with double bass, tuba, etc.) it's often good to simplify it, omitting some notes and inserting rests, as constant low doubling can sound ponderous and tiring. And you can use the entrances of a simplified doubled bass line, after giving it rests, for great expressive effect.

@darbl.musica 11 месяцев назад

A good explanation on how to get a simple orchestration from 4 part writing. BTW, the theme reminds of Rach concerto Nª3

@lucifervalentine5406 11 месяцев назад

Yep

@ppheard1254 Год назад

First 1:53 Sounds cinematic just with this alone 3:13 Sounds cinematic-er just with THIS alone 3:58 All that was needed for this to sound cinematic was the French Horns only 4:22 Hard to tell the difference but it is playing and sounds cinematic-er-er 8:25 All that's needed is this 9:19 I walked into heaven 11:04 The moving lines made me think of Squid Games 12:16 I died

@AndewMole Год назад

if by cinematic you mean played by orchestra...

@rodterrell304 Год назад

LOL, well said. I'm amazed how much these guys know about orchestration and how much sense it makes. I just wish I had found this out sooner in my life.

@foljs5858 11 месяцев назад

@@AndewMole he means like an orchestral soundtrack

@yoavshati Год назад

Can you make more videos about orchestration that isn't this huge epic wall of sound? Here it's quite simple because you're using the whole orchestra, but in lighter passages you don't want a tutti, and making these choices about instrumentation and what lines to actually use isn't as simple

@odiajulius2349 11 месяцев назад

Listen to and follow the score for Bela Bartok s concerto for orchestra....everything you need or will need is there ! Thank me later !

@aafrophonee 9 месяцев назад

@@odiajulius2349 We played this in my orchestra a few months ago. Such an amazing piece of music

@Musicrafter12 7 месяцев назад

I think in these cases it comes down to learning how to use your inner ear. Since there are fewer instruments, it's easier to tell which instruments are doing what and it's less immediately overwhelming to effectively score for a smaller group. Though you may not be doubling parts as much, enhancements will still be welcome - they'll just be a different kind of enhancement. You'll want to focus much more on the timbre of each individual line (rather than mechanically just trying to get the thing balanced), and getting away from the notion of "each family having the complete harmony individually" is a great way to expand your palette [sic] in that regard.

@landersiqueiros6538 2 месяца назад

Did you find any good explanation on this?

@mustuploadtoo7543 Год назад

This is probably my favourite orchestration channel on the internet. High quality content and regular uploads 😀

@mathiaslevyvalensi-compose5014 Год назад

This video works PERFECTLY as a complement to 'How to write epic cinematic music' video you made a while back. Brilliant way to present orchestration. Often, starting simple really brings out the best (and most complex in some cases) final product! Great video Ryan, thank you!

@BaldPerspective 11 месяцев назад

I always said it in music school & I still say it when the topic presents itself: good voice leading is generally good music.

@dagoelius 10 дней назад

The horn section by itself is the best part.

@lodew 3 месяца назад

Honestly Alain approach and course is one of the best I've seen on the internet, especially for beginners

@JScaranoMusic Год назад

When I start writing an orchestral score, I've always started with the full layout, with all the instruments I think I might use, because I usually know what instruments I want to use as I'm going along, and if I end up not using an instrument at all, I just remove that staff when I'm done. I always thought writing everything out this way before transferring it to a full orchestral score was just an extra step, but I can see how it might actually save time and simplify the process. I might have to give it a try.

@JamesSarantidis 8 дней назад

This is what I was looking for. Sadly my music studies ended up to the harmonizing part and never got a taste of orchestrating a track and this is a very good easy-to-follow practical example. As a math-oriented individual I love how each part just fits to create something so dramatic and beautiful from a very simple creative idea. Thank you for sharing generously your knowledge.

@thelime9133 Год назад

the melody reminds me alot of the 3rd rachmaninoff piano concerto

@lucifervalentine5406 Год назад

Yes!

@wardropper 11 месяцев назад

This is truly grand stuff. I generally work the opposite way round, arranging orchestral music for 2 pianos, but this glimpse into orchestration was really fascinating and inspiring! Thank you!

@HeavenestStCyr Год назад

This has to be one of my favorite videos so far! I learned a lot. Thanks to you Alain for taking the time to teach us this and to you Ryan for setting it up!

@Crimzan4 Год назад

Awesome you got Alain for this great and super helpful video!

@SolarMumuns Год назад

The best orchestration vid I've seen on YT. So clear and simple. Bravo!

@eleezemckenna6787 8 месяцев назад

Oh My God I just replicated this exercise using Finale and am as the saying goes "mind blown!" I can not tell you how many years I've struggled with orchestration and frustration with the process. Now I can see that the old addage "less is more" is absolutely brilliant when applied using such a simple method to produce this kind of master piece.

@musical_lolu4811 Год назад

Thank goodness for my church organ playing days! I could never have come to good SATB writing and a good SATB repertoire any better way. It's all literally under my fingers, and serves as a reference point for understanding more complex arranging. Then throw in jazz harmonic arranging in there, both vocal (e.g. Take 6, Jacob Collier) and big band, and you're ready for anything.

@rodterrell304 Год назад

Ryan, that was Tremendous! Thank you so much for posting. You guys are really good.

@ChickpeaMilkshake 10 месяцев назад

Great video, thanks Ryan!

@mr88cet Год назад

I’m also a fan of what Wendy Carlos called “selective note doubling”: Doubling on certain specific notes of a melody or bass line to give it extra color or spice. It’s a little like using brass or woodwinds as percussion!

@maryshaw4399 Год назад

Great video! Thanks Ryan and Alain. Scoreclub is an awesome resource.

@CalebSmedra Год назад

Fantastic, as always.

@jobaecker9752 8 месяцев назад

Beautifully demonstrated! Thank you!

@petrumazilu3292 11 месяцев назад

We need more videos like this!!

@jacksonkerr2095 11 месяцев назад

This is incredible, thank you for posting this. I went to school for music several years ago, and it's nice to be able to brush up on some skills relating to this field. Thank you!

@jamesmihalkamusic Год назад

Thank you for this, it will be super helpful in my future orchestration! Your videos are always so informative and inspiring.

@tomdaigon8707 Год назад

Alain is an awesome instructor , musician and human being.

@ontherhumbline Год назад

Your timing is impeccable. I am in the process of composing a piece where this works beautifully.

@ojorotimi8150 10 месяцев назад

Wow, I’ve been greatly blessed by this lecture. Thanks🙏

@sandwich-breath 10 месяцев назад

Great collab! I’ll be checking out the course for sure.

@Ahmad-Mounir44 5 месяцев назад

Having Ryan to get Alain join in is mind blowing to me 😍

@kristinabengtsson7558 9 месяцев назад

Best video I´ve ever seen on orchestration. So clear. Thank you

@choimdachoim9491 11 месяцев назад

Amazingly useful video. I didn't learn anything like this during 5 years of college with a music composing major. Why couldn't those years have been as productive as this short video?

@JuanMariaSolare 11 месяцев назад

because the college didn't engage me as a teacher?

@choimdachoim9491 11 месяцев назад

@@JuanMariaSolare Obviously, but there's only one of you, sadly.

@sebastianfia9541 Год назад

Amazing video, clear and succint. Even starting with such simple melody and harmony, the orchestration gave everything incredibile depth. Gonna try this out

@thedeafmusician Год назад

Hey Ryan, I really love this video. I normally use this method, however I have never seen before someone creating a part of a song from zero with it, so it's incredibly helpful to reaffirm the method and add New ideas. Alain is a great teacher, at sometime I'm gona have to buy his classes

@antjamnow1286 10 месяцев назад

Epic and clean approach.

@smoh-gm3dj Год назад

Thank you so much, your videos really revolutionizing my composition

@carminepastore3274 Год назад

I have also taken many of Alain's classes. He is an outstanding teacher and scoreclub in fantastic!

@cwgochris71 8 месяцев назад

Very clear presentation. I always love it when a video maker can take the mystery out of creative work and bring it down to earth. You show that anyone who wants to work at it can learn, through practice and persistence, what the professionals do. So thanks.

@anthonywritesfantasy 11 месяцев назад

Alain is soooooo good! And you let me right to his course. It's like casting your first level 9 spell.

@marcel_schweder-composer Год назад

This video is a great reminder of why the skill of writing 4-part harmonies is so incredibly useful. 👍

@JoelEverettComposer 2 месяца назад

Quick, short, and a wonderful clear explanation of the practical application of an often - at least the way it is taught - dry academic practice. Thank you!

@kungfumusiclessons7579 Месяц назад

Great video! Thank you for sharing.

@autistikicecream 10 месяцев назад

Man that's awesome! Thank you! I hope video on harmonization will come out soon!

@nicolaicrabtree1336 Год назад

Wow! Just wow! Exactly what I needed right now

@Johnstone565 Год назад

Excellent video, thanks 😊

@julespardon2252 6 месяцев назад

Amazing video, thank you so much for sharing all these knowledges !!!!!

@Heosmin Год назад

Super helpful, thank you!

@MostafaDeknach Год назад

love your videos, always inspiring and informative.. love from Lebanon

@leeahegg2377 Год назад

Do more like this tutorial, please! Very informative and useful!

@RivkaMacales 4 месяца назад

Wonderful, thank you for this!

@Patty-bv8jq 11 месяцев назад

This has really helped me. Thank you!!!

@TheTravelerAiArt 15 дней назад

This is the video I’ve been looking for. Amazing information.

@raymondstarostin5237 Год назад

Thanks! Very informative! I started orchestration as a part of wind and brass band conducting minor and worked a lot with SATB, this video gave me some answers on a questions I had and ideas to develop going from 4 voice orchestral sketch.

@willgiam3231 10 месяцев назад

This is such great stuff. Thank you!

@PedalingAdventures Год назад

Well done. There is real teaching provided here. I recognize that, at the core, there really is no such thing as being completely self taught. Formal and informal education play important roles in the learning process. And this content significantly contributes. Many thanks!

@largebottomproductions Год назад

Awesome stuff thanks for sharing.

@ShivSagar010 10 месяцев назад

Thank You Very Much!🙂🙏

@baloothedrummer Год назад

I love this kind of videos

@TonyIrayhany Месяц назад

I am a self-taught and this is the first time I am hearing about four part writing, thank you. I will dive more into it and try to apply it

@VFXCommander Год назад

Alain Mayrand is the best teacher in music! Straight to the point orchestration!

@martinfernandez4467 11 месяцев назад

This is so good!! Thanks

@silviermotova 8 месяцев назад

honestly thank you very much for this video. it gave me clarity about composing. thankyou!

@jjm2k209 4 месяца назад

This was amazing - thank you! For someone who already has music knowledge, I’ve never used or looked at a DAW and this has given me the confidence to start exploring my creative side! Appreciate your style 🙏

@gheorghevolosciuc8325 11 месяцев назад

Great video, thank you!

@yixuantjanmusic Год назад

Great video! The motif sounds a lot like Mvt 1 of Rachmaninoff's Third Piano Concerto !😂

@monkeyman15387 9 месяцев назад

I thought so too 😂

@dagmarintreble 11 месяцев назад

That was interesting, thank you!

@balbino4 11 месяцев назад

Very very very very good! Thank you very much!

@mdcatdad 11 месяцев назад

I'm partial to Rimsky-Korsakov's philosophy that "orchestratio IS composition!" That is, you should be thinking of how the music sounds when you compose it, not thinking up a melody, or even a passage on the piano, to then orchestrate. As you learn in 8university orchestration courses, not every piano work can be orchestrated and sound good

@wmhough 10 месяцев назад

Really insightful - many thanks - subscribed!

@CoopMusic247 День назад

Great content, thank you

@gabriele4449 7 месяцев назад

ok this video just made my day thanks

@jorgeparr3002 11 месяцев назад

This is AWESOME STUFF 🎉 THANK YOU SO MUCH SIR 🎉

@Muzisoccer253 Год назад

this video is sooo informative in powefull, thanks a lot !

@kingu6656 8 месяцев назад

That was epic!!! 👏🏻👏🏻🙌

@feraste Год назад

Great video !

@AudioknapAcademy 11 месяцев назад

Thanks! It was interesting!

@vincentcolletti7664 9 месяцев назад

I enjoy your videos but wanted to give a special thank you for turning me on to Alain and Score Club. No pain, All gain. Supercharged my composition skills in very little time.

@jordanj9069 Год назад

A very useful concept for ALL composition

@amarug 3 месяца назад

As a beginner who isn't at orchestration level yet, I would LOVE to have a discussion on this particular harmonization of this melody, it sounds really pretty to me and it's clearly not just picking the default chords - there is clearly stuff going on. Just to examplify my confusion/curiousity: the last three chords (including melody) form II - VI - V, which seems to be some unusual form of an imperfect cadence and since it's in D Minor, that means its a diminished chord.. and before there is also a half dimished chord...I mean just the last three chords and there is so much going on... I am so curious what thinking went into this, especially since to me it sounds absolutely amazing!

@binaryoptionstrading360 Месяц назад

Wow! Eye opening.

@agentjimbohotmail 9 месяцев назад

great vid!

@LannyRoe Год назад

Gracias, this will be put to good use

@MaheshKumar-wv3fb 11 месяцев назад

Oh my goodness, I thank the Universal consciousness which showed me this video in youtube, from many years I was wondering about this how a 4 part writing helps in Orchestration. Really Golden piece of info. Thanks would be a very small word to show my gratitude for this video. Many thanks Ryan! Expecting more videos like this in your channel :)

@benjaminl429 11 месяцев назад

This was brilliant.

@kappabravomusic2101 11 месяцев назад

Great advises!!!

@taura101 11 месяцев назад

Great lesson.

@gavinleepermusic Год назад

Great video guys! I quite liked that overlapping divisi idea (1/2 V1 melody 8va, 1/2 V1 on melody, 1/2 V2 melody, 1/2 V2 harmony) so that the melody gets a net full strings section. Quite enjoyed Alain's Orchestrating The Line after Ryan turned me onto it last year!