How to Compose for Choir

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As a beginner composer, do you struggle to write effectively for the Choir? In this video I breakdown the basics of writing and orchestrating for a choir section, including a brief description of the Sopranos, Altos, Tenors and Basses (SATB). I then take you through an orchestral piece detailing various Choral writing and orchestration techniques, to help you get the best sound from the Choir section.
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00:00 - Intro
00:37 - Basics
02:39 - Example of writing for Choir
03:36 - Clarinet Section
09:17 - Recommended Sample Libraries
11:40 - Outro
Recommended Choir Sample Libraries
Spitfire Audio Labs
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Audio Imperia Nucleus Lite
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Orchestral Tools Metropolis Ark 1
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8dio Requiem Professional
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@shrednut Год назад

This channel always outputs the most quality material. You’re a great teacher, with great examples and a wonderful talent for composing.

@composingacademy8270 Год назад

Thank you so much for your kind words! I hope you're finding the content useful!

@YuanPang15 Год назад

The video is so good considering all the important details ! Thank you for your brilliant representation !

@PJ-ee5mc 2 года назад

This is a wonderful video and you are a thoughtful and talented instructor. Early in the video you wisely showed triads and a simple graphical representation of the choir and how you then built upon it, thickening the choir with additional voices above and below. Yes, this dynamic might seem obvious to some but to others the value of seeing it displayed in a linear fashion was perfect. A perfect example of how 'one picture is worth a thousand words' and so helpful to those who are eager to learn. Visual aids are always so effective in teaching and are now such a great part of working with midi and using a DAW. Bravo, Simon! Keep up the great work.

@composingacademy8270 2 года назад

Hi PJ, thanks so much for your feedback. I had forgotten about the graphic, so thanks for reminding me!

@iamthereforeimustbe 7 месяцев назад

I’ve been binging your videos and have both thoroughly enjoyed them and learnt so many things. I shall be putting many of the elements you’ve shown to good use. 🙏🏻❤️

@PapierschnitzelPapercraft 2 года назад

Ha! I didn't expect a choir section video but I enjoyed it very much. Love that I can try stuff out with the free LABS choir. Great work as usual!!!

@composingacademy8270 2 года назад

Thanks so much!

@chancemusicyt Год назад

i’m a high school student in choir who’s really interested in composition. i want to compose a piece (possibly religious, anyone have ideas for a song that’s commonly used and versatile that i can arrange?) that i want to surprise my director with when i graduate. (maybe even a poem i can be creative with?) thanks for giving me an idea of how to do this.

@KOSTASGONTIKAKIS Год назад

Excellent .Love your epic choir

@UnOwInGeD 2 года назад

Your videos are top tier stuff. Always enjoy and learn something here

@composingacademy8270 2 года назад

Thanks so much for your kind words and continued support!

@audiomixexpert3175 2 года назад

Great tutorial Simon! I'm really enjoying this series explaining how to write for the various sections. Would it be possible to get a full track analysis / breakdown for this particular composition? Really enjoyed this track and would like to know how to write something along these lines. Thanks again.

@composingacademy8270 2 года назад

Thanks so much for watching-yes I'm planning on revisiting the piece for a future video - I'm glad you enjoyed the track!

@seventearsofhope 2 года назад

I follow your tutorials for a long time, and I must admit, that I love to learn from you. Choir is one of my favorite elements when composing. As you requested, I would love to see a video about the sections in a (trailer) and the transistions between them. What are the possibilities, and what makes sense, and what not. Thank you so much, Simon. Keep it up. Greetings from Germany - SevenTearsOfHope

@composingacademy8270 2 года назад

Many thanks for watching and for your kind words! Thanks for the suggestion as well - I've made a note and will try to put something together regarding Trailer Music and structure. Thanks for the suggestion!

@andreasheierre8915 Год назад

Brilliant video! Will also recommend Spitfire’s Originals choir! It is only 29€\$\£ and really good!

@danielrennie8444 2 года назад

Very nicely done! Always learn something new from your videos! Looking forward to the rest of the series. Strings, brass, woods, and choir down. Percussion, synths, and "bringing all 6 sections together" to go!!

@composingacademy8270 2 года назад

Thank you! Yes the percussion video is currently in the process of being made....its taking a a while though!

@danielrennie8444 2 года назад

@@composingacademy8270 I don't mean to be a bother.....I just really like your videos and am always waiting for the next one. I don't mean to try and rush you or tell you what to do for your future videos....it just excites me is all.... :/ I know you put a lot of hard work into each video, (I can see it in each one I watch) and it does take time to do it as well as you do. So keep up the great work, and take as long as you need to make it meet your standards!! Thank you for all you do, Simon!!

@composingacademy8270 2 года назад

@@danielrennie8444 No I loved the idea you gave me for doing the whole series including synths etc - thank you! Juggling my existing teaching commitments as well as a baby has proved tricky this week :-). So glad to hear that the videos are useful for you though!

@composingacademy8270 2 года назад

Oh and thank you for the continued support!

@danielrennie8444 2 года назад

@@composingacademy8270 Yes, by all means, family comes first!! I heartily agree!! We can wait, but your family needs you more :) and yes of course. My pleasure!! I like your teaching style. You appeal to my practical side lol

@clairecooper1754 2 года назад

Enjoyed this, thank you. I didn't know Nucleaus lite had choir samples of detached notes. Thanks again.

@composingacademy8270 2 года назад

Thanks for watching! Yea Nucleus Lite is amazing for the price!

@suryamogali78 2 года назад

Wonderful channel ❤️

@composingacademy8270 2 года назад

Thanks so much!

@emilyrln Год назад

Gotta admit I was really hoping the bass would drop 😂 gorgeous piece and very helpful walk-through!

@composingacademy8270 Год назад

Thank you for watching, I am pleased you enjoyed it!

@iaraplangkyndait-wm5ic 26 дней назад

Thank you

@composingacademy8270 7 дней назад

You're welcome, thank you for watching!

@MrKmusic7 Год назад

Awesome video!!!! Question: Is Cubase and your notation software in sync or did you line things up in post? Would absolutely love if there was a way to sync the two. Thanks.

@stormfate2108 2 года назад

Wow great tutorial man! U got a new sub! Would love a cubase template tutorial for orchestral music! Keep up the good work!

@composingacademy8270 2 года назад

Thanks so much! I've made a note - will def make a video about Orchestral templates in the future!

@mikemeier5004 2 года назад

Hi Simon. Thank you for the tutorial. Very useful as always. Short question regarding your sample library recommendations. What do you think about the EastWest/Soundsonline libraries (Symphonic Choirs and Symphonic Orchestra)?

@GertimAlberda 2 месяца назад

I do it differently. I don't think at all in cadences nor try to fill them in in advance. I think in bass lines (like figured bass) and where it leads to, as a driving force so to speak, and the rest, the inner voicel, and the cadences, almost comes automatically (and it makes it less predictable and defined). This may also be how Bach thought, by the way, for example when we look at the bass lines added by bach below the Schemelli solo pieces, but there are many more examples of that. Also, to stress how important he found it, he also wrote about it and explicitly taught about it (figured bass). The importance of the bass line remains a bit overlooked almost nowadays, at least when it comes to the harmonization and writing of hymns and chorales.

@composingacademy8270 Месяц назад

There are so many different ways you can compose and looking back at classical composers is a good way of doing it as well. Just sharing the way I prefer to compose and hope it helps others too!

@Nolimitsfreak22 2 года назад

Hello Simon, first off your video's are amazing! Thanks a lot for the high quality video's. I have one question. Suppose that at one time in your track you would like the choir to sing the melody line. Ive seen your video on how to compose a piece given a melody, but the choir sings in unison in that video. What if you'd like to make a 3-part harmony? Often you can use triads to harmonise. But how do you then harmonise with notes that are NOT in the chord (e.g. passing notes?). If you could help me out if would be greatly appreciated!! Best, Wessel

@TechnoDad Год назад

Thanks for this! Going to add some cinematic music for my RU-vid videos. BTW, looks like there is a sale on Requim Pro...$50!!!

@composingacademy8270 Год назад

Thanks for the heads up!

@MartinJG100 2 года назад

9:17. LABS is surprisingly good for sketching which I believe was pinched from the Eric Whitacre choir, along with the patch in Free Orchestra (albeit a swell) making an interesting blend. East West choirs is also still quite good value if purchased in one of the seemingly endless sales that barely pause for breath:).

@composingacademy8270 2 года назад

I have the very original East West symphonic choir which you've just reminded me of - I'm going to try and find the original installation DVDs and load it up. So much easier with samples today though, especially the LABS series which are brilliant

@MartinJG100 2 года назад

@@composingacademy8270 Indeed.

@abelshenende171 2 года назад

I want to be learning music notes online with you

@mikolajfilipmusic 2 года назад

How to create interesting patterns of choir from Nucleus?

@vedmishra5081 2 года назад

pls provide notation link always which you play in video .. thanks

@imanifilmz6552 2 года назад

Hi Simon been for a long longing to a film music composer, but could not know how to get started I got a few gears to start with, kindly I'd like to know some of the best vst to use out there. Thank you for your response.

@composingacademy8270 2 года назад

Hi Imani, many thanks for watching. I would recommend Spitfire Audio's Discover as a great free introduction into Orchestral VSTs. Audio Imperia Nucleus Lite is then the next step up which I would recommend, with a price of $99. I hope that helps!

@VelocityRecordingStudio 2 года назад

You are my new best friend

@composingacademy8270 2 года назад

Haha thank you!

@VictorSyamsuri Месяц назад

would you tell me. what is the sofware .do you used

@composingacademy8270 Месяц назад

If you mean DAW, I am a Cubase user :-)

@rumar4u 2 года назад

Please Simon, if you can, fix the page of the guide. It gives the 404 error. Thanks

@composingacademy8270 2 года назад

Hi Ruben, many thanks for letting me know. I think its sorted now - let me know if you have any difficulties. Apologies for any inconvenience!

@rumar4u 2 года назад

@@composingacademy8270 BTW Simon, I ended up buying Requiem Pro as it was on sale 55% Discount plus a Strings Library freebie ($298.00 Value) for the grand total of $224.00. I like it has that "Oh Fortuna" (fff) type of Choir. Thanks for the video

@tuck295q 2 года назад

7:00 what does he mean by pedal notes?

@composingacademy8270 2 года назад

A pedal note is basically a pitch which stays constant whilst the harmony around it changes...so in the video, at the 7.00 mark, I have an 'A' which is constantly playing, but the other notes (above and below) are changing. I find pedal notes can be useful in coming up with different harmonies/sounds. I hope that helps!

@petertremblay3725 Год назад

Spitfire Epic Choir is fantastic for only 29$

@composingacademy8270 Год назад

Will check it out, thank you!

@petertremblay3725 Год назад

@@composingacademy8270 I was struggling to find an affordable choir and this one is simply the best for the price and believe me i have search all over the web. I am a game developer but for my game i could not afford a compositor so i have to do everything by my self.

@leonard_kristianto Год назад

Hi Simon, is there any way to communcate with you? Via email?

@composingacademy8270 Год назад

Hi Leonard, yes I can be reached at info @ composingacademy.com

@Sarah-oj7bh Год назад

While impressive as a lesson in computer music, I don't feel this is really about writing for real life choirs. The tenors and deep altos would hate you for making them sing so many repeated a's.

@gkgyver 2 года назад

Altos are notated in the alto clef, hence alto clef. Same with tenors in tenor clef. I hate that proper details like these get lost among MIDI musicians because they're too lazy to learn. If you really want to fundamentally learn to write for choir, study things like Wagners Parsifal. MIDI musicians think choir writing is pressing block chords on a keyboard

@composingacademy8270 2 года назад

Hi Georg, many thanks for your honest feedback, which I'll use to hopefully make better content. I'll definitely check out Wagner's Parsifal - thank you for the recommendation

@randyleazenby2351 6 месяцев назад

Not really much help

@wolflahti412 Год назад

Baritones get no respect.

@sanjapopovic4698 Год назад

What about male-identifying sopranos? Why aren't they allowed to sing low bass parts even though their natural range is high? Why can't basses who identify as women sing high parts? All choral works written so far should be banned because they are offensive. AI should be introduced to write generic music, not for humans to write. The most significant thing in the world is how you identify yourself, not what you are according to biological, scientific and logical principles. Hello ! what century is this? We have to think in that way in order to improve humanity, it is done by insisting that what you really are is not highlighted, but how you identify yourself!!!!

@Logan0324_ 7 месяцев назад

mate if you can’t sing the range of a part you don’t sing that part, its not that complicated. If you are a bass and can’t sing a soprano range note, you can’t sing soprano, simple as. Btw it’s not a set rule that only women are allowed in sops and altos, and men in tenors and basses, its just the general trend as it is rare that a man can sing soprano, and if a man can sing soprano, or a woman bass, go ahead!