How To Connect Analog Gear to Computer Patchbay Hybrid Mixing 

Step 1 is missing...cabling up all that stuff onto your patchbay (would love to see that as I'm not using the i/o routing but using direct connection) and the right order. BTW are you using two 8x outputs interfaces daisy chained? Thanks

Man I can hear in your voice that yer stoked and can hardly wait to start producing, awesome set up 👍

A video showing how you connect what to where (in and out to the patch bay or directly out from the interface and back in maybe..) would be great. I understand how you select the i/o and etc to rout the signal but physically all that cable running confuses me. All the best.

Thanks for the run through. Im currently trying to start a rack, and even though its going to be a very slow process since its not cheap, im trying to get a head of myself and learn how to patch things into a hybrid set up. Your video was very informative. Your rig is absolutely BEAUTIFUL!

So much info given & patience you have to do this for us. Much respect to you sir.

Thanks ! I improved the use of my patchbay thnaks to you ! My favorite chain is now automaticaly selectable : karakter => api 5500 => api 2500 => rme A great time saver !!!!!!

Thanx for the tour...you got a great work flow/ all you need at a arms reach. You must be very excited to get working after all the planning.I am in the process of condensing my work area...started with painting the studio black and of cause had to rethink my studio to the new age of hybrids. Enjoy your new setup....looks great :)

Where are your adam a 77x monitors, still in Europe? Congrats with your new studio in LA David!!!

How do you route the cables is my question, I’m so freaking lost, I have a few hardwares (including a Dangerous Dbox+) and a patchbay but can’t get anything work together.

Great video! I have an old, analog Mackie 32.8 bus mixer and a server tower full of rack gear. Is there a certain order to chain effects in; out to a laptop? It will end with the TC Electronic Finalizer 96k hardware. Should that be be on its own or at the end of a chain? Thank you for any help. p.s. is there an email I could send a picture of my rack to; in case you have certain suggestions, based on the gear I have? At the moment, I only have a pair of Grado SR-80 headphones and 2 Roland DS-50 self-powered monitors, so it looks unfinished for now. I am also missing an ADAT interface. Thank you again for all that you discuss with us. You are becoming one of my favorite channels! Keep the passion coming. It's infectious!

Thanks for showing us round your gear. Drawmer 1176 sounds great

If you daisy chain compressors without a patchbay do they both have to be powered on to get signal from the one you want to use?

Hello master, after watching this video for the first time, it would be very useful if you could complement it with the management of the audio signals that enter and return to the PC, levels, recording, etc. I hope you can, thank you

Great video I really learned a lot.My question is can you connect the SSL to a laptop using the MOTU and if so how? Because I have a SSL AWS 900 Coming but I have a laptop MacBook Pro that I do all m music with so Im trying to learn how to connect the two thank you kindly

thx david nice video , i like Hybrid Mixing stuff love to have more videos

My question is can we we use 1 compressor on different tracks and have different settings for every track ?

Wow!!! Incredible setup!!! I have a Focusrite 18i20 How can I do my connections? Thank you David

Really very useful. I know you did a video on delay compensation for PT inserts a while back - would love to see that revisited. And did you say the SSL was connected to the MOTU via ADAT with the latter as a clock? I'm thinking of adding another interface to my set up and would love to have a video on this and what to avoid. Thank you!

where can i get your decoration lights ??

HOLY COW that studio of yours is SLEEK, SEXY, and looks OH SO GOOD! (hate to sound superficial, but I do find my surrounding nature to become part of the essence of the art I reproduce). The analog gear is just great (that Drawmer sizzle!). Anyways, Cheers in the New Years David, MixBusTv, & RoCkStArStuDios! #2020Records

Hey love your new set up 👌🔥 I have a little studio set up and I just bought a patchbay the ox 3000 as well but I’m having trouble trying to figure out a way to set all my gear up my interface is a Studio 192 26 by 32 and I have a two channel Pro VLA 2 compressor and a DBX 1046 4 channel compressor and I have a 2 channel art TPS 2 Mic Pre and I also have a 8 channel Ultra DI box and I couple other pieces of gear I need help to connect it all together I have all the cables and everything just need a hand to connect everything and I was hoping you would have a better idea how to connect everything Oh and my Daw of choice is Studio One 4 Pro .. thanks big time if you can help

What levels do you come in and out of the box please , to use the analogue gear without crushing the signal ? Do you run your whole project at analogue -18 levels or step up and down using gain plugins please?

I'm in Love with the Audio Lamps you have ! ... please tell me were you can find them ?

Wouldn't it be a good idea to keep the LA3A and LA2A settings the same and just change the sound with in- and output gain of the I/O plugin for instant recall?

A noob question, but just wondering if using the beringher patch bay, sacrifices any quality in the signal chain compared to a high-end patch bay?

Why not the Antelope Orion? High end converter and digital patchbay included, 1 unit instead of 3? One thing I still did not understand is why people need an interface with 24/192 conversion plus another external converter. Why interfaces are not acceptable as converters and aren't there any all in one solutions out there, like e.g. the Apogee Symphony or other stuff from Antelope?

Great video!... I use a summing mixer which I love but sometimes I find that after 2 bus processing I actually have too much headroom (peaking at -15 to -12db). I was wondering would I be adding artifacts by turning up, for example, my 2 bus compressor output gain to get up to -6 to -3db?

Studio is Fuxxxin beautiful..

How did you actually connect the hw inserts into the patchbay, is the connection still the same number IO And what's the connection between the patchbay and the SSL?

What is that blue shimmering thing on the top of JBL monitors? I like it. And love that new black-gray look of your studio....Very nice and tasteful stylized !!!

Do you notice any degradation from the Behringer patch? Would be interesting to hear AB. TBH, I'd imagine it'd be pretty subtle

hey! nice video! i have a uad apollo twin soundcard and also i use behringer ada8200 adat inputs for my synths, what clock should i use from behringer or from apollo? i cant understand exactly what is better and why. thanks

Hi David, have you ever considered to use a console as a center piece since you already have a hybrid system, for example the Rupert Neve 5060 or the API The box, or even a cheaper one like a Toft, I have a pan Allen & Heath zed r16 which doubles as my interface and am happy with it, I probably change the interface to something better but the converters are pretty decent and it is stable, anyway, what do you think about that kind of hybrid setup using a small footprint console as a center piece? What would you consider as pros and cons? Have you ever considered or would you consider something similar? Thank you.. Great channel btw!!!

Hey David, love your videos. Do you find there's a difference with the sound of the motu and ssl ad/da conversion? Gearslutz forums make a big stink about the sound of different converters. I ask because I have a rme ufx and want to expand. Wondering if it would be countetproductive having two sets of converters going at once.. For sound continuity reasons. I know it's not really a big deal just curious if you've thought about it.

Does this hardware takes excessive electricity????

Can you use hardware outboard gear with interface units that have preamps in front of all the ADDA? or is there impedance mis-matching or extra preamp coloration etc?

Hi David great video! About routing and how to connect everything I understand, but my question is i have audio interface presonus 1818vsl (8 inputs and outputs) i connected dbx166xl to input and output3-4 and samson s com4 input/output 5-6 (i use only 2channels because of cables)so my question is gain knob on my interface is like a input knob like on la3a then how to setup right input amount to the compressor should i go with -18dbfs or there is another way? Thank you!

David, quick question regarding the final print of the mix. I've just recently started using a hybrid set up but i'm having a few issues that I think are to do with latency in the final print. I create a send on my submix (bus 160 in my template), and use that bus as the input to a new audio track. Is this similar to how you approach the final print using hardware? I use logic and compensate for the hardware using the ping function in the I/O plugin. No issues there. I'm wondering if issues are arising recording the final print due to maybe I/O buffer size or something. It may not be related to the hardware at all and simply latency within plug-ins i'm using in the session but i've never encountered the problem before because I was bouncing the session out instead of recording the session through a bus to a new audio track. Have you had any issues like this? If so, how did you go about solving it? Cheers, Matt.

Its looking great mate

how about latency RTL in this set up? how to compensate?

I would like to pre-order the new UAD Luna, can you please provided a link. Thanks!

Hi i'm about to get my first patchbay in my home studio, basically to run my synths thru some hardware effects, or to run stems thru outboard mixer. Is it important to get a balanced patchbay or an unbalanced one (PX2000) would be fine as well? Thanks

Hi David maybe you can help me with this. On my Bass bus I use a SPL Vitalizer routed to a distressor (PLUG-INS). I just bought both the distressor and Vitalizer hardware versions. Problem is the Vitalizer is stereo and the Distressor is mono. How do I connect the two? DO I just use one channel of the vitalizer and go into the distressor that way? Or should I buy some type of adapter where I can feed both channels into the distessor? Thanks for help you can give.

Gorgeous gear!!!!

I got that patchbay like you said just still confused a lil. I use my antelope pure2 ad/da converter as my interface its only 2in 2out. Plus should I go buy a dedicated audio interface and which one you suggest I should get that's between 500 to 1000$

I have the Dione and a patch bay hooked up, but my dione is giving me meters but no sound drops nor can I hear the sound squishing when I have the compressor all the way up...I don't understand what I am doing

REALLY GOOD WORK ,NICE DESK, YOU SAY THE SSL IS WHAT SIGNALS THE I/O TO THE DAW?

How the returns of the hardware are routed? I mean, in protools or direct in the monitors through the Motu?

Great video man. I just got that patchbay to replace my dbx one i was surprised at the quality. You have a great gear list now all you need is some dbx 160vu XD

David, my question is: Do you really use this Behringer patchbay Ultrapro. Didn't really see any list above. If so, is it really that good for that price? I mean, I heard people having lots of issues with noise, etc. Thank you :)

Isn't mulit da/ad a problem for Sound quality? If i go out for each unit for example 10 units, i have 10 conversions. Wouldn't plugins then be better?

Hey David, sorry for having a stupid question. In your studio you have mixers in the recording-rooms, so thats obviously the preamps and line-inputs you use to record? But where the signal of each track is going then? Interfaces have usually a maximum of 8 inputs, you use them for your outboard-gear. How you put 32 audio-signals or more into the DAW if you do multitrack-recording or even just drums recorded with more then 8 mics? Sorry for being a pain in the ass, but thats what I really didn’t get!

Nice, David. So you aren't using a hard-wired patchbay. How do you insure that the 1/4 jacks will maintain a good connection over time? Thanks!

this seems cheaper then using a tegler audio konnektor good job!

Thank David!

Hey David, Love the video. My question is why do I get so much delay when using my 1176 and my interface? I try to compensate in pro tools by adjusting the hardware delay but can't seem to get it spot on.

David...can you tell us about how you are dealing with latency with this setup...?

Question: How you bounce a mix when you use analog gear? I just used an analog compresor on drums tracks(first time using this method after I watched a video from you) and when I bouced it, it didin't sound like when I was in the Pro Tools sesion. I have to print track by track to have the analog compression on them?

Hey David, setup looks super slick! So if I am getting this right, all your connections for gear are on the patch bay going to the SSL. You then use the patchbay to break any connections to route different gear chains which then go back to the SSL?

Nice looks great no API 2500 anymore?

Hello David , I’m sitting and thinking :)..so your DAW outs go to your MOTU ins , then MOTU outs go to SSL ins and your SSL outs go back to your DAW ins, right???

Ey..Do you use ProTools? So you can adress more then one Interface (when i remember right)? Or you do use Adat for the SSL to implement the SSL? thx.

Nice!!! Which desk is that btw?

Hi David, tech question based on the subject... Up until a few months ago I had a similar (but much smaller) operation going. I was using (and still am) an Audient ID22 interface and had a Behringer ADA8200 connected via ADA. The problem I had is all of the signals going out from the PC and through the ADA8200 to the patchbay (where I could then patch in various outboard) was very weak. I tried all sorts to fix it. In the end I put it down to some kind of error in my setup where perhaps impedances were mismatched or something. I watched some other videos where users had it set up very similar to me and had some great success. I've now sold the ADA8200 and am wondering whether it is worth trying again with a better ADAT expander? I originally wanted to do this so I could essentially output 10 channels / tracks from my DAW out to the patchy bad at the same time allowing for some hybrid mixing, but I was more focussed on messing about with analogue summing solutions. Thanks for your time and great videos as ever.

MASTER i love it

I just added an ssl six mixer to my patchpay. Should i have that as part of my 2-bus chain or keep it separate connection by itself?

Can u try and help me out. I've researched alot and asked on a forum yet still cant get a clear answer, WTF! Lol.. I know u dont record as much as mixing/mastering but im sure u know. I think its time for me to get a patchbay. My main concern is my vocal chain/preamp. I keep reading that connecting the preamp or anything with 48v in a TRS patchbay could blow a fuse in the amp or mic. Do they mean if u plug the preamps output directly into the patchbay? Or something else? I want to use my preamps XLR output to TRS into the patchbay then route my compressors accordingly when recording. I also need them connected separately for mixing clients, which is why I need the patchbay lol. Thanks!

This might be a dumb question but how do pro tools record what changes you make on the hardware?

I don't see any Tegeler gear?

How does your DAW recognise the hardware, are there drivers for every bit of hardware?

Hi! I have some compressors (LA2A, 1176, DBX166XS) and an EQ as ouboard gear all connected to a patchbay. The interface is a Steinberg UR44. When I choose the I/O plugin în Logic, I get a nasty feedback squeek. Any ideas on what I do wrong? All the outputs are on the bottom of the patchbay and all the inputs are on the top and the patchbay is set to Thru so they are not connected.

Youre the boss

Then recalculate all your delay compensation for each piece of gear? Avid, its 2020, add a ping feature, please!! lol!

Drawmer 1970? 0:21

You can't tell us Drawmer what?

I didnt understand a single thing ,sounds too complicated. I am happy with ITB man. Just give me a reference sound of hardware, and i am good to go to emulate it in the box itself. :D

Interesting hair.

I..... Didn't understand a thing. 😂

We all know it's the hardware that can do the job, not plugins.