This kind of reintegration of vanilla dungeons has so many possibilities: think old school scarlet monastery, UBRS, Wailing Caverns, Sunken Temple....so good. Also the lore implications of Naxxramas being "still operational" to some extent...its really eery and good storytelling!
I have come from the Future, You can enter Classic Scarlet Monastery by buying a Scarlet Key in the AH. MrGM should have a video on the rest of the details. But you can access all the classic wings and the removed wings as well
Old Scholoomance?! I never thought I'd see the day! SO HAPPY to hear this! Now if they would kindly restore the other classic dungeons too (especially the sunken temple)...
Something you missed....YOU NEED TO BE AT LEAST HONORED WITH THE ARGENT DAWN IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE DREAD CITADEL NAXXARAMAS. If you have no characters with AD rep, go do Fiona's caraven until they reach light's hope, do the quest in the catacombs, and that'll get you revered. Please do this before hand.
Old Scholo was one of my favs. Seeing how much work has to go into unlocking this brings back fond memories of dungeon and raid attunement. I miss those days...
Videos like this is really nice to follow step by step, but for future videos it would be nice if you had a list of all items you need beforehand from AH and things like this so you don't need to go back in the middle of doing things
@@liama5514 or just take the constructive feedback and make it convenient to follow. It would make the video 5 sec longer without needing to memorize things
the video pretty much hand holds you through it all! Do you want him to log in to your account and do it for you too? How about you do a little bit of something on your own and spend a few minutes researching what you need before you click on a walk through video
Just to add, if you did everything and Eva did not give you an inert spectral essence and you did play through the old scholomance questline back in vanilla, check your bank for a spectral essence. Same goes for the argent dawn commission, speak to Alliance: Argent Quartermaster Lightspark - Chillwind Camp or Horde Argent Quartermaster Hasana - Tirisfal Glades .
I love how they added in Tier 3 and hate that they made it just as unobtainable as the BMAH. Why didn't they just add in Vanilla Naxx for peeps to farm?
This makes it obtainable. Previously someone on BMAH could max it and you wouldn't have a chance. Now it is obtainable. It's not something that's meant to be 1 and done in a weekly reset. Have toons specc to making yourself the bop materials and stack gold. It sounds like the gold requirement is your problem.
Watching this video was a complete rollercoaster from "this doesn't seem too bad" to "you need WHAT" 😂 Looking forward to the nostalgia of old scholo though!
I was just sorta following along as I watched and I got to the point where all of the mats come up and the drop chances etc. and I decided it's not very attractive gear anyway XD
@@cruzyaguaran6094”BMAH” is the abbreviation for “Black Market Auction House”. It is a source for some of the items/mounts no longer in the game; you have to bid on them alongside everyone else on your server. You can find the current one underneath the whelping daycare in Valdrakken (location of BMAH seems to change every expansion).
Yes! I love seeing stuff like this in WoW! Keep adding secrets like this Blizzard, it makes the world feel alive. Great explanation of this long questline! Thank you
Out of all the guides on this topic this is by far the best one, only thing I'd suggest in the future is have all the mats you need to buy off the ah either in the description or in the first few minutes of the video, for people like me who played the video while doing the objectives simultaneously, other than that tiny gripe, amazing job broski, well done.
The gate actually opened to get the quest mob after killing Ramstein, I went back to kill Rivendare after I destroyed the quest mob... in case you are running short on time.
i love the idea that you can enter the old version of changed dungeons/raids via alternative routes. i realy hope blizz will do that with all the changed ones ( aka sunken temple for exemple). btw if you have the spectral essence back from vanilla , that one will work as well.
They forgot to add in the insane amount of $$ spent getting cursed cloth or languished leather commission crafted so realistically one can expect to spend closer to $4 million for the full Tier 3 set
so the strathholme runing from the living side to the baron rivendare was SUPER tight for me i'm a dk i litterly only had 2 seconds left on my debuff so all i can recomend get any and all types of speed buff spell or pots or what ever it was really tight geting it done before the time run out
Note that if you did the questline around Scholomance from the good ol' days and decided to keep your Spectral Essence from then, you can just retrieve it from your bank (I would assume you aren't actually carrying it around now) instead of crafting a new one. Always knew it would come in handy again!
Great video and information, I was so happy this was coming back. I was only a Tier 2 raider back in Vanilla so never had a chance at T3. Then these videos came out on how we get the gear and NOPE i'll never be getting it...
By the way small tips, once the stratholm part finished you can go speak to the archmage with any characters not necessary the one that finish stratholm, using the one with the better reputation with Argent dawn will save you some gold :)
It's worth noting that the game object at 8:18 (the one that you will eventually transform into your Argent Dawn Commission) will not appear if you already have the Argent Dawn Commission in your bags or your bank. Also note that you may have previously upgraded your Commission to a Seal of the Dawn or a Rune of the Dawn. Both of these trinkets still count as an Argent Dawn Commission, so keep that in mind when using the search bar in your inventory.
One one step you will need to have reputation with Argent Dawn Honored (not Argent Crusade). If you don't have it there is easy way to get it. Just follow Fiona quest line - purely this quest line without side quest. At one point you will have to help two paladin 'recriuts' in trail in crypt - just finishing this trial you will get absurd amount of reputation with Argent Dawn bumping you up from Neutral all the way to Revered.
It's all fairly easy to do, but getting the lamented crusader pieces seems extremely rare. I've done naxx on a stupid amount of characters this week trying to get a chest. At least 50 tries, no chest. I've checked some higher pop realms and they are going for 1-2m.
@@Mourneblade91 Excuses. No one said you have to farm for gold. You can do weekly 30/30 azureweave cloth making on all your alts and wait until you have enough to craft w/e you want.
Once he got to that part it really deflated my excitement. With the cost of the cloth it's already a gold sink. Finding people willing to craft the items for you for a reasonable price is going to make it even worse.
10:27 I'd recommend a rank 3 Charged Phial of Alacrity and Dried Bonefish alongside any other speed boosting stuff you can get, gear with speed/speed enchantments, class abilities etc for this section.
did it as a warrior and just booked it also i think you can pre clear it then bonk the ward so you can beeline there instead of dealing with all the side shit and adds
@@ryantwomey3463 just tried and the ward didn't spawn anything, so apparently you cannot go into the other wing before you break the ward I got there in time with a frost mage when did it properly a word of caution though, go left first, then backtrack and go around the east of the gauntlet; the gate west of the gauntlet is a trap and kills your try
-it's not 100% drop for the krastinov bag of horrors toy. It's really close though. Like 95% -If Eva Sarkoff bugs out on you and doesnt give you the inert spectral essence, it's because you already have one in either your bags or bank, as it was part of the quest line to upgrade your dungeon 1 set to the dungeon 2 set. --If you do not see the cracked argent dawn commission on the bone pile in rattlegore's room in OG scholomance it's because you already have one, either the argent dawn commission or the upgraded seal of the argent dawn version. If you have had one in the past but deleted it you can get a new one from the Argent Quartermaster Hasana at the bulwark if horde and Argent Quartermaster Lightspark at chillwind point if alliance. -You cannot try and cheese the speed run sleight of hand portion of the unlock by clearing "dead" side first, all the ziggurats and rivendare must be alive before you begin the speed run. -You can group up with people for the timed portion of Stratholme, also bear tartare food helps. and dont loot until after you kill the hand of naxxramas. -Completing the full fiona's caravan questline will take you to revered rep with argent dawn, and unlocks two repeatable quests that give 2000 rep every time you complete them, one to kill rattlegore in new scholomance and a quest to loot the annals of silver hand, the annals are in the room opposite Balnazzar in "live" side of Stratholme in the crusader's citadel. You can loot the annals,leave the instance (do not reset the instance) take it to the quest giver and pick up the quest again loot the annals again and repeat till exalted.
@@SSquirrel1976 yup, it’s kind of an important point and several video guides don’t mention you cannot kill boss and stuff on dead side before you use the ward.
This is awesome! Collectible things like this with a time sink requirement makes a lot of sense because it gives a sense of achievement when you do it or that wow! factor when you see someone who has done it.
15 bloody seconds, 15 seconds left when i had to kill all the undead before the Black Guard, but did the Black Guard spawn quickly? NOPE, so i gonna have to go back on an alt xD, thank you for the video though Dan :)
Massive cost, but it’s understandable given that people who bought t3 on the bmah now have an opportunity to make that gold investment back. And if you complete a full set you can recover some of the cost by helping others. It’s a complex and deep system.. but I think that’s okay for optional old transmogs. Overall I think this is a W for blizz
@@Bonebounder93 gold is so easy to make, I don’t understand why people buy tokens. The total cost here is only around 3M for the set. The same money as the spider mount and less than the brutasaur, sure 3M isn’t chump change.. but if you want the set it’s less than other vanity gold sinks that allready exist and should only take a few months to make the gold to afford.
I personally already have Tier 3 for Warrior, Pally, Warlock, Mage and Rogue. I like that others will have a chance to get it even tho it's going to cost them an arm and a leg lol. I was really hoping to get my hands on the OG corrupted ashbringer :(
That wouldn't make sense since the only reason to have the corrupted ashbringer is to bring it to the Scarlet Monastery. Maybe when old school SM is introduced something will happen .
I had fun unlocking all this, but the rewards at the end were abysmal. There's no way to obtain tier 3 without buying dozens and dozens of WoW tokens, probably blizzard's intent.
I'm completly amazed by the lack of this type of comments, this is a clusterfuck and such a horrible system and yet people are encouraged to just drop 3M gold, this is absurd
Yep, happy to see old stuff from Classic return. Not to mention the bosses that can be summoned by the Brazier of Invocation have returned as well (The ones in Old Scholomance and Strathholme, the rest I'm sure you can be able to summon with the item before the patch). Shame though that I don't have the item to summon those bosses and no longer obtainable :(
HUGE SIDE NOTE: If you are doing the ''Dread Citadel'' quest on one of your alts or main, make sure you are honored with Argent Dawn or Archmage Angela Dosantos wont complete this quest for ya, so its gonna take a bit for get all that rep. Make sure to do it with a character that has the rep already.
Tier 3 is/was cool because so few people ever managed to get it. Seeing someone back in vanilla with even a few pieces was quite something. No one on my old server ever managed to get more than a few, and I don´t think anyone killed Kel´thuzad even in tbc
Not sure how you figure 5 minutes is plenty of time to run to dead strat, kill all those things, and rivendare. MY 5 minutes ran out while I was still outside his chamber w/a couple more groups to kill. That's on a rogue with fast stealth and sprint. Maybe if I go ahead and kill everyone except rivendare then go back to live side, use ward, run back, kill him then do the finishing step it would be fine. The guide up to that point has been perfect, so I'm happy to see the old instance back. Hopefullly UBRS is next, I miss The Beast
Notes I'd like to add / personal anecdotes: - It took me 10 runs of Heroic Scholomance to get Krasinov "The Butcher" to spawn and get my toy. That was me running on 8 characters over the course of 2 days (got it on my 2nd character of day 2). So, good luck with that. Your results may vary, but I thought to add my personal "odds". - Running the dungeon from Ward of Naxxrammas to Baron Rivendare and to the Eye took my Paladin 4 and a half minutes, so 30 seconds to spare, if anyone was wondering. She is not specced to be particularly fast and I didn't have a speedset, running at 110% normally with incremental buffs to speed. So, that being said- it can get close! Don't expect to just make the cut without having SOME form of speed boost. Hunters and Rogues probably won't have as hard a time as I did (still, I got it first try so don't worry too much about it). - If you're having trouble finding Archmage Angela Desantos like I did, she can (also) be found in Tyr's Hand (not labeled on the map but is the green area directly under Light's Hope Chapel) at coordinates 72.6, 74.8 right under the front gates. This is assuming you have 0 quests done in that area. If you've started the quests but haven't finished them then she'll be near the fountain at 76.1, 75.4. She appears at Light's Hope Chapel just as seen in the video after the quests for Tyr's Hand are complete. - Getting Rep with the Argent Dawn: this is for the quest mentioned above from Archmage Desantos. You can increase your reputation with the Argent Dawn by turning in Scourgestones at Duke Nicholas Zverenhoff at the tent to the right of the chapel. 10 Invader's Scourgestones (obtained from Stratholme and Scholomance) grant you 150 reputation. That means to get from 0 Neutral to 0 Honored it would cost 600 Invader's Scourgestones. Yikes. I cannot find another way to gain rep with the Argent Dawn but I had this at Exalted on my old main so I switched to him for the remainder of this portion. I don't know why peoples' advice about Fiona's Caravan didn't work for me- it would only give me Argent CRUSADE rep. This quest requires Argent DAWN rep. Maybe it changed since 11 months ago when this video was posted. - The Naxxrammas Portal stone is at the specific coordinates 35.7, 23.1 I'm not interested in the armor sets so this is where the journey ends for me. Just wanted the portal to Naxx and ability to go back to old scholomance (and eventually get the mount). Thanks for the vid and I hope my comment helped anybody trying this.
This was cool! A few things that I noticed was on my main I was able to skip a few parts in the quest. Also I still had the argent Dawn trinket that also have attack power was also the trinket you end up making lol 😂 spent about 30 ish mins in Rattlegore pits looking for the broken one when I forgot I had the upgraded one from long back
This kind of return is pretty cool. Tier 3 is not cheap, and it's not too easy, most lazy nerds will still end up paying goldcap for it on BMAH. I like this kind of puzzles
Thanks for the guide, I m a bit disappointed about the tier 3 achievement requirement for the craft, why give that much edge to people that got tier 3 at the time. Everyone knows the value of the OG tier 3, people that had it are basically permanently tmog in Tier 3, it has been 15years, I feel that it has been long enough that they could have release the craft like that without the added bonus. I guess they have done that to prevent angry nerd raging out but overall I guess getting more old content mog is already a good start.
I think people who have a full tier 3 set from BMAH can also craft it, so that makes it not that rare. Think of all the people who have obtained full tier 3 since BMAH was added in MoP, it's quite a few.
my friend is permanently transmogged into his t3 even though he hates how it looks, he just has it transmogged because of the value. but now he finally is starting to wear something else in the game
Everything was looking great until the part about having to craft the tier3 via work orders. What a pain in the ass. They could of just made it the same as old naxx or just simply made it a grind. Transmog is a personal thing, and should be obtainable solo.
@@Mezer_PoE I was looking forward to farming it like any other set, but I think I'm okay with this, at least I'll try but I'm just not great with gold lol
Thank you so much for you kind video. For more than 10 years I always dreamed to complete the Deathbone set (I got a few parts back in time). May the Light bless you, in real life! I have a point. Krastinov, Sarkov, Barov, Zverenhov... did you know notice that all ghosts and undeads in Caer Darrow (Welsh name) have Russian names?
They should've made these rewards for playing Classic somehow instead ex. killing KT with x amount of damage dealt gives you an achievement that lets you get T3 transmogs in Retail, would give people incentives to at least try both games
I still have my Tier 3 from when I was a kid, more or less. I don't know how I feel about this being a thing returning to the game after quitting Shadowlands.
for those of you who dont know the t3 set mats come up to 2.8million gold to buy from the goblin vendor blizz has made sure you are more likely to buy tokens in order to make this set they did not do this for us they did it for more sales do not think otherwise be smart and thats not counting the cost of 90 riteous orbs for each class set
Such a ridiculously convoluted way of obtaining tier 3 when they could have done something similar to what they did with Onyxia in WotLK classic and allow you to toggle between the original version and the revamped version.
