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How to Defeat Russia's Defenses? - Modern Breaching Operations in Ukraine Explained - 3D DOCUMENTARY 

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What will it take for Ukraine to defeat Russia's defenses? Thanks to FlexiSpot for sponsoring our documentary! Check out their FlexiSpot E7 standing desk: (bit.ly/3R6FdvY - US link) (bit.ly/3RiCsI9 - CANADA link) and use my code ''Invicta'' to get $30 off on orders over $500.
In our prior episode we explored the True Size of Russia's Defenses in Ukraine ( • How Tough Are They? Th... ). This involved a review of both the macro and micro features of the Surovikin Line. In this episode we discuss what it will take to defeat them. This begins with general game theories of attack and defense as well has high level strategic moves which must be considered to increase one's chances of success. Ultimately however the battle must be fought. To this end we cover the playbook for modern breaching operations.
Suggested Reading and Sources:
"Allocating Defensive Resources with Private Information about Vulnerability" by Robert Powell
"ATP 3-90.4, Combined-Arms Mobility Operations"
"Pendulum of War: The Three Battles of El Alamein." by Niall Barr
"Russian field fortifications in Ukraine" by Brady Africk
"Interactive Ukraine Map" Institute for the Study of War
"Ukraine Deployment Map" by Military Land (militaryland.net/maps/deploym...)
Credits:
Research = Will Mitchell
Script = Will Mitchell and Invicta
Narration = Invicta
Production = Penta
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
03:17 Disclaimer
04:14 Strategic Moves in Theory
07:56 Strategic Moves in Practice
11:49 Breaching Tenets
13:03 Tenet 1 - Intelligence
15:00 Tenet 2 - Breaching Fundamentals
18:38 Tenet 3 - Breaching Organization
20:35 Tenet 4 - Mass
21:57 Tenet 5 - Synchronization
23:24 Chances of Success
24:59 Outro
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@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 8 месяцев назад
In this episode we avoid trying to read the tea leaves of the ongoing conflict and instead focus on general principles of modern breaching operations using both past, historical examples and contemporary ones in Ukraine. I hope this proves educational without straying into the realm of opinion. If you like this content consider making your next desk purchase through our sponsor FlexiSpot as the channel gets a portion of the sales. Check out their FlexiSpot E7 standing desk: (bit.ly/3R6FdvY - US link) (bit.ly/3RiCsI9 - CANADA link) and use my code ''Invicta'' to get 30% off on orders over $500.
@The8thlegionprophet
@The8thlegionprophet 8 месяцев назад
Lol Ukraine isn’t going to win and funny how you supported them the entire time. Their the bad guys, love your historical videos. Just not your make believe, ones.
@bronson4574
@bronson4574 8 месяцев назад
So many Russian bots
@hansdampf640
@hansdampf640 8 месяцев назад
@@The8thlegionprophet where is the support of the ukraine? i haven´t seen any bias in this video... did you watch it?
@hansdampf640
@hansdampf640 8 месяцев назад
@@bronson4574 sure kid... everything you don´t like is written by a bot... it is you who is fed by bots it seems.
@addounsamiyoucef1999
@addounsamiyoucef1999 8 месяцев назад
So Ukraine isnt winning lol ?
@TestTest-yf1ow
@TestTest-yf1ow 7 месяцев назад
After almost 6 months of ukraine counteroffensive the frontline didn't change much and Zaluzhny named war as the stalemate. So russian defenses completed their task?
@ilmari1452
@ilmari1452 6 месяцев назад
It looks that way, yes. Ukraine is (very sensibly) keeping quiet about their losses but if the few slips they've made are accurate - and they have 300,000 casualties* - then it looks like it's all over for them. * unclear if that was just the counter-offensive or the whole war. Russia claims 120,000 Ukrainian deaths in the counter-offensive alone, but have obvious interest in playing that up.
@kharnthebetrayer8251
@kharnthebetrayer8251 5 месяцев назад
​@ilmari1452 I don't think it's all over. Ukraine are still managing for the most part, and making small gains. The difficult part is that the Western countries are losing interest in providing aid, which they need to counter the size difference between Ukraine and Russia. They're in a position that the West won't provide aid unless they get successes, but Ukraine can't really get successes without aid. So they're not in a great position, but it's not done just yet
@tombogan03884
@tombogan03884 4 месяца назад
@@kharnthebetrayer8251 So aren't the Russians.
@shovelmastaflash
@shovelmastaflash 6 месяцев назад
lol guess the Ukes didn't bother watching your video
@StevenOfWheel
@StevenOfWheel 8 месяцев назад
24:45 "At the time of this video's production, Ukraine has started to pull back the soft, outer lines of Russia's defences [...]" "Soft", ay? I have no idea what's your conception of "soft", but I gather it is very different from any normal, reasonable person's definition of it
@nomcognom2332
@nomcognom2332 8 месяцев назад
Everything looks so easy behind a desk. Ukrainian soldiers have, probably, more experience fighting a modern army than any other country in the world (besides Russia, for obvious reasons).
@wtice4632
@wtice4632 8 месяцев назад
Atleast the few who are still alive
@MikeJones-qc1ju
@MikeJones-qc1ju 8 месяцев назад
What about people who live in the middle east lol . They have fought the Chinese, Russians and the United States over decades pretty much none stop without Nearly as much aid the Ukrainings are getting
@huntclanhunt9697
@huntclanhunt9697 8 месяцев назад
​@@MikeJones-qc1juWith their casualties? Very few from 2 decades ago are still there lol.
@jessicalacasse6205
@jessicalacasse6205 8 месяцев назад
usa only been in peace for 20 years in total life so ...
@MikeJones-qc1ju
@MikeJones-qc1ju 8 месяцев назад
@@jessicalacasse6205 what do you mean the us has been in peace for 20 years ? Lol
@rdf274
@rdf274 8 месяцев назад
Great video along with the 1st part. I think you guys managed to nail the balance you wanted and needed so much - giving an overall strategic overview and not dismissing the fog of war
@A.B.5KRVw
@A.B.5KRVw 8 месяцев назад
Short answer: "You don't"
@Garshock1
@Garshock1 8 месяцев назад
Great video as always!
@L.CROSS0
@L.CROSS0 7 месяцев назад
Great video! Love the effort you guys put in them.
@huntclanhunt9697
@huntclanhunt9697 8 месяцев назад
Ukraine has already attempted these tactics. The problem is, they don't have air supperiority. As a result, Ukraine gets spotted from the air and hammered via artillery and air strikes whenever they attempt to manuever large numbers of troops into position. Furthernore, Russia has been effectively using defense in depth tactics. Ukraine has been bogged down by picket lines and smaller, mobile defenses hidden among trees and small trenches, which have delayed them for 3 months with heavy losses tp the point that they're just now reaching the main line. They've also lost a lot of their best troops and vehicles while clearing out these less important outer layers.
@monadsingleton9324
@monadsingleton9324 8 месяцев назад
The whole problem with this video is that it is premised on obsolete, WWII-era maneuver warfare. Russian defense-in-depth warfare (which they are the masters of) combined with innovative ISR tactics effectively neutralizes any and all attempts by the Ukrainians to make major strategic movements against Russian defenses.
@walkingcarpet420
@walkingcarpet420 8 месяцев назад
Ya its a stalemate for Ukraine, totally unwinnable
@Americandragonrider333.
@Americandragonrider333. 8 месяцев назад
And Ukraine sucks at fighting! And don’t know how to properly use the weapons Usurper Biden is giving to them free of charge, to keep this conflict going! Anything to help his “business” and partner Zelensky in continuing it! Russia has tried 3 times to end this, the last being this past April! But Ukraine refused to come to the negotiating table choosing death and destruction instead! Ukraine’s Government has even made it illegal to negotiate, perpetual war is apparently what they want! I think it’s time for Ukraine to take that step to end this, Russia has already tried many times! And someone going to have to force Ukraine to the negotiating table! Best way to do that is to stop sending weapons to them, so they can’t continue to fight! (The civilians of Ukraine and the DOR and LPR and Russian Crimea and Russia itself would appreciate this) I’m sure there sick of being bombed and shot by Ukrainian forces on purpose, then they blame Russia for it! (Unlike the Russian forces who killed civilians on accident) The quickest way for this to end is to negotiate and make a peace that both sides can agree on! Otherwise it will continue almost forever, with many more dead! And Biden isn’t legitimate so who cares what he or his puppeteers say!
@qwertyasdfgh1014
@qwertyasdfgh1014 8 месяцев назад
Also there is AA....
@steelbear2063
@steelbear2063 8 месяцев назад
Yeah and NATO mercs can't help with the situation on the ground either. Ukraine will lose, only a matter of time and severity of their loss
@LauftFafa
@LauftFafa 5 месяцев назад
easier said by drawing lines than done . stick to video games
@nexeos
@nexeos 8 месяцев назад
Seeing your PC at the ad in the beginning of the video made me remember you used to be a total war channel at one point. Man that feels long ago...
@TimL1980
@TimL1980 8 месяцев назад
Anyone else immediately thought: "why do both sides have an equal numbers of gamepieces in this game theory setting?"
@v.Toro.
@v.Toro. 8 месяцев назад
Ukraine can use a higher percentage of its population with less risk of demonstrations against the government.
@lightworker2956
@lightworker2956 8 месяцев назад
That's actually more or less realistic. simplicius76 on substack is an amazing source for the Russian - Ukraine war, and the number of Russian vs Ukranian soldiers are actually somewhat close. The problem in Ukraine isn't endless hordes of Russian soldiers. The problem in Ukraine is that Russian soldiers are more highly trained (because Ukranian soldiers die all the time, and the current crop of Ukraine's soldiers are often 60 year olds or pregnant women taken off the street and sent to the front after a month of training). And Russia has something like a 10 : 1 artillery advantage. And Russia has advantages in tanks, airplanes, helicopters, drones, anti-air, electronic warfare, missiles, mine-laying, mobile emergency care for soldiers and basically everything.
@VarietyGamerChannel
@VarietyGamerChannel 8 месяцев назад
Russia has not even mobilized for general warfare apart from a regional mobilization of reserves back in march. Ukraine has undergone multiple general mobilizations including total mobilization. Most Russians aren't even feeling the conflict, ukraine as a whole is on a total war footing. @@v.Toro.
@v.Toro.
@v.Toro. 8 месяцев назад
@@VarietyGamerChannel the Russians are definitely feeling the conflict lol. The main difference between the two is that there is a much higher cost for Russia to mobilize men than in Ukraine - national unity is strong in Ukraine and extremely fragile in Russia (think Wagner revolt and the local support it received) You're very wrong about mobilization, even St. Petersburg and Moscow are feeling that. I've received first person accounts for that, from upper class citizens. - it's not just the minority regions, which again, risks further fracturing the federation because these regions are thinly held to be loyal to Moscow. Because of this, Ukraine and Moscow are on par with how many people they can bring to the fight. (Again Ukraine is much more willing to defend its homeland : they've seen firsthand the genocidal behavior of Moscow, they won't just give in) Ukraine has been slowly winning as we've seen, the only thing that will change that is if support from allies ends. Putin has gone all in on that wager. He has plants and kompromats throughout the west so it's possible. e.g. in the US it's the Trump cult who also regularly threatens insurrection but at the very least cutting support for US allies. 👈 are Putin's hope otherwise it becomes time for Rus to seek a peace treaty
@kentaj8447
@kentaj8447 7 месяцев назад
Wagner was not rebelling against the government, but against a wing of the government that was not sending ammunition.@@v.Toro.
@TheOriginalWerty
@TheOriginalWerty 8 месяцев назад
It's wild to me that the most comparable battles fought were fought >80 years ago
@chrisdiaz4876
@chrisdiaz4876 8 месяцев назад
Little has changed, at least on the tactical level.
@lightworker2956
@lightworker2956 8 месяцев назад
@@chrisdiaz4876 It's like there were huge changes in WW2 with blitzkrieg, but then there were huge changes that made blitzkrieg not work anymore (it's now much easier to detect and blow up a tank from far away). So it's like one step forward and one step back, and the net result is that we're almost back in WW1.
@NickyDekker89
@NickyDekker89 8 месяцев назад
It's because the main warmonger in the world (USA) only picks fights with opponents they can steamroll with overwhelming force and technological superiority.
@rdf274
@rdf274 8 месяцев назад
yup, big trucks digging earth for trenches still a tremendous hassle. Of course, if Ukraine could commit serious NATO supplied long range capabilities, it would be an entirely other war we're seeing. There's a good reason why that doesn't happen, and I don't think it's because of fear of "escalation"
@familyguycuts510
@familyguycuts510 4 месяца назад
@@rdf274 lol russian air defences are best in the world that’s why it didn’t happen. It’s normal for west to look down upon others but they got it this time
@3DMoldShop
@3DMoldShop 8 месяцев назад
You absolutely sold me on the standing desk!
@william_santiago
@william_santiago 8 месяцев назад
Love the use of Risk cards.
@papadad1116
@papadad1116 8 месяцев назад
This comment section is irradiated lol
@bosshog8844
@bosshog8844 8 месяцев назад
because...?
@yaujj65
@yaujj65 4 месяца назад
@@bosshog8844Well due to the fact I heard that the counteroffensive is not doing great and we have many petty argument about the war update.
@felldin
@felldin 8 месяцев назад
Communication and initiative is so important, even at lower levels without any additional support. I'm fortunate enough to never have been to a war zone, but this is visible even in airsoft. Playing with old, fat, but trained conscripts is far easier than trying herd around young saplings scared shitless by even plastic pellets. Basic maneuvering is impossible, and acting on opportunities is a dream.
@kerkonig5102
@kerkonig5102 8 месяцев назад
​Exactly. thats why its is so incredibly importatn for a competent army to aktualy take prisoners and treat them at least decent. If the ukranians where the same kinds of monsters the russans prove to be then the war would look very different. Becosue then the russians too would think "well surrender is not an option so my highest chance of survival is if we actually kil all enemys" but as it stands now, even with russa doing its best to keep there troops from retreating, the amount of russians that surrender is high. This coimment is more aimed at the 16 year old edglords who are like "why should sodiers treat a enemy htat commits attrocities decntly, just kill them and take no prisoners, they deserve it" becosue remember, every enemy that surrenders is a enemy that no longer shoots at you and every enemy that thinks about surrendering is a enemy that dosen't realy aim that precisely anymore. While he thinks about stoping to shoot at all. The reason why insurgents usaly don't surrender is that even if they do, they will not get out of there country. Meaning at some point they are released, in ther country, and are target to revenge actions from there former commrads. Simply becouse insurectionists usaly view surrender as a kind of betrayal. and the punishment for that is mostly torture. But as long as there are survivors off insurgent asults on millitary units they will think about the option of retreat. If there aren't any survivors of such attacks, or only a very few, then they will start thinking "well it doen't matter if I try to runn I die anyways, so I might as well continue shooting"
@tedmihalca
@tedmihalca 8 месяцев назад
I'm sorry did you just compare a full scale war to airsoft lol?
@kerkonig5102
@kerkonig5102 8 месяцев назад
@tedmihalca No he saied taht EVEN in such a funn little, not even close to dangerouse, thing as airsoft, people are afraid to move if "shoot at". Now imagin the fear and confusion when there are REAL bullets in the air.
@felldin
@felldin 8 месяцев назад
@@tedmihalca No, I drew a parallel to applicable and similar situations. I could not compare the two.
@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323
@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323 8 месяцев назад
​@@nvelsen1975I am not reading all that
@houm7571
@houm7571 5 месяцев назад
Ive been following your content for a few years now. Its always been amazing
@user-hc4lk4lp9o
@user-hc4lk4lp9o 6 месяцев назад
well that attempted offensive aged like milk
@timothy1949
@timothy1949 8 месяцев назад
reportedly yet to be committed? i thought everyone knows the 82nd was supposed to be the reserve and it had been committed weeks ago thats why there are challenger2 destroyed on the field as they are the only unit that field them. yes, ukraine has other forces available but those were not the forces allocated for this counter offensive. a lot of people knew back in june this would end in failure, including myself, many said ukraine should call off the attack back then. honestly i dont understand why its worth discussing how to breach the russian line, ukraine has exhausted their troops, and advancing power, they spent nearly 4 months just to see the first russian line, and the russians kept fortifying all these time. russians been holding these lines and positions with mostly second tier troops and made ukraine work for every single village, VILLAGE. most of their superior troops are positioned just behind the main lines. its likely that the russians may start an offensive in winter, or early next year. ukraine simply ran out all their offensive potential. when urkaine retook kharkiv, the russians were under man, they didn't build a line or lines, but since then, they learnt from their mistakes and mobilized, according to them, 300K men, and built the line that stopped the ukrainian army. lets see what will happen.
@NLTops
@NLTops 8 месяцев назад
Oh look, a channel with no subscriptions, liked videos or any other content spouting Russian propaganda. I wonder if it's a Russian bot.😅
@syedfahim6695
@syedfahim6695 8 месяцев назад
At least there's someone who gets the full picture of this current Ukraine war. Big respect gentleman ❤
@NLTops
@NLTops 8 месяцев назад
@@syedfahim6695 🤣When you think any outsider has "the full picture"
@syedfahim6695
@syedfahim6695 8 месяцев назад
@@NLTops and when did CNN ever told any truth!?
@NLTops
@NLTops 8 месяцев назад
@@syedfahim6695 What does that have to do with your blatantly stupid claim that the OP knows everything about the war? You can rage at CNN all you like, I don't particularly care for that type of news. But the fact you take Russian propaganda to be the truth says more than enough about how gullible you are.
@Dyzzzma
@Dyzzzma 8 месяцев назад
Hello , this isn't just look easy on table , this looks easy on table because of hard work from team who made this video,visual concepts and knowledge. 🙂 Thanks for video.
@orkopayp9338
@orkopayp9338 4 месяца назад
russia will be defeated but it will be millions of UA according to stupid west
@DeaconBlu
@DeaconBlu 8 месяцев назад
Great vid mate! Well done indeed. Thanks You! (New Subscriber a/o today) Keep it up, by all means. I’ll be going thru your library in the next several days. I look forward to it. Thanks again. 😎👍
@eliendel
@eliendel 8 месяцев назад
I would love a video on Desert Storm
@e_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_ejiysb7169
@e_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_ejiysb7169 8 месяцев назад
Seeing the hopeful comments by people hoping that Ukrainians will break through the Russian defences, all I can say to that is end that hope strategy (Yes that is a term seeing the entire Ukraine offensive was basically that) as real experts put it. This video gives a good general idea on how Ukraine can theoretically breakthrough but it lacks actual substance. What do i mean by the hope strategy? The experts from guys like New Atlas, Andrei Matrynov, Douglas Mcgregor, Scott Ritter and along a few others have consistently stated that Ukraine and its NATO sponsors operated on the assumption of a few things (too many assumptions by AFU and NATO i've been following them since the start of the SMO ill just state the general gist so u guys can understand ): They thought the Russians will simply melt away as they thought they will during their kharkov counter offensive (Didn't add Kherson since the Russians voluntarily withdrew to the other side of the bank as they rightly proved when Ukraine blew the dam with himars). What those Ukrainian and NATO officers forget is that the Russian army during their Kharkov offensive on that sector was basically so few that only dpr and lpr forces was apparently stationed there a couple thoudand only against tens of thousands of AFU. Naturally the Russians retreated fast and didn't bother trying to defend such an undermanned area with almost no defenses considering the Russian army at that time basically consisted of only around 60k plus active frontline troops out of 250 to 300k. And of those 30k men were apparently on Kherson area. Naturally the Ukrainians won with high morale though they paid a stepped price. They lost tens of of thousands of men on both kharkov and Kherson front. If your wondering how the AFU lost so much it's because they rushed out in the open where artillery and drones picked them off non stop until they met a solid defence where their offensive stopped. This costly victory will have a consequence as this lead the AFU and NATO to get really high and kept saying we will have vacation on the crimea right after they attack towards Melitopol. They forgot that Russia finally mobilized and got on some war footing exceptionally well that it doesn't even hurt their civilian industry (A western report stated that). This mobilization, rapid building of arms and the fact the Russia has been actively building defences even way before the AFU launched their kharkov and kherson attack, meant this time there will be no staged retreat as they have the men to actually be in the frontline to actively contest every single AFU advances.
@tommytomas-fr3sh
@tommytomas-fr3sh 8 месяцев назад
your saying the truth!
@e_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_ejiysb7169
@e_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_ejiysb7169 8 месяцев назад
@@tommytomas-fr3sh thx hopefully this should make people understand more on how the offensive towards Zapro/Melitopol will never work.
@akotarakz
@akotarakz 8 месяцев назад
@@e_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_ejiysb7169 The ukrainians made two fatal mistakes - underestimated their enemy and waited for their enemy to dig in good. If they kept throwing some random units constantly just to harass the engineers and buy time for their assault units to train and equip, the result might've been different today. They decided to disengage active advance and send their troops to train half an year, all the while the russians had time to prepare by the book defence and bring in reinforcements to fill in the defence.
@manubishe
@manubishe 8 месяцев назад
damn, man made his sponsorship segment a full review of the product.
@emjizone
@emjizone 7 месяцев назад
Great visual work.
@buryitdeep
@buryitdeep 8 месяцев назад
Well made video and good effort explaining tactics. However game theory is akin to a book how to drive a car in traffic, Theory is sound, you know the rest.
@Tokieejke
@Tokieejke 8 месяцев назад
the problem with PC and standing desk is the HDMI cables from PC to monitors, they will restrict movement up from some height
@gomahklawm4446
@gomahklawm4446 7 месяцев назад
Average height is less than 2 meters.....3 meter cables are easily bought....
@13thravenpurple94
@13thravenpurple94 8 месяцев назад
good video thank you
@chrismorrison6126
@chrismorrison6126 8 месяцев назад
I'm confused - the video says $30 off, but the description says 30% and when I tried applying the code it says "This coupon code cannot be used" either way. Annoying.
@trexmarkus
@trexmarkus 4 месяца назад
Great video! On the point of complexity and fog of war. It was actually stated that both Ukraine and Russia have a amazing idea of how the battlefields are going and looks due to constant drone surveillance (This still doesn't mean perfect like a video game might). But it has opened up new problems for both side. That being tanks can't advance nearly as close any more because it can be spotted by drones and an artillery firing solution can be calculated and the tank destroyed before becoming a threat. This and so many other aspects has lead to effectively a stalemate. Because something that is forgotten a lot is that Russia has air superiority. Ukraine has great anti-air assets which in turn create another stalemate. This is the theater on which modern warfare is changing once again. Previous strategies are reduced in their effectiveness and new strategy and tactics have to be implemented and even technology has to adapt. This war is one that unfortunately is going to be slow and bloody, with a cost that measured in miles once more.
@heathclark318
@heathclark318 8 месяцев назад
1.5m subs yet this video has less than 100k views... mind blowing the algorithms
@prizefighter8699
@prizefighter8699 8 месяцев назад
Yes they dont want people to see this cause it goes against their narrative
@paijokotak6996
@paijokotak6996 8 месяцев назад
Or not interested to watch, for my self i'd love to cover events from facts and history rather than wargame
@heathclark318
@heathclark318 8 месяцев назад
@paijokotak6996 if you didn't watch it you wouldn't have known which version you would be getting. More factual or more opinion. The fact remains it has/ had crazy low views given member reach and how popular/hot button Ukraine is
@gomahklawm4446
@gomahklawm4446 7 месяцев назад
No one wants to hear western lies about it. Many have telegram and know the truth. Ukr has no chance at all. 500k dead so far. 2M handicapped.
@danielefabbro822
@danielefabbro822 8 месяцев назад
At El Alamein the Britts had more than 2000 pieces of artillery, but yeah, the concept is what count.
@gabri.6247
@gabri.6247 8 месяцев назад
great video
@vladislavnikora
@vladislavnikora 3 месяца назад
*in Jeremy Clarkson's voice* which went well
@DaLordIsBack1
@DaLordIsBack1 8 месяцев назад
Came for the F16s, stayed for the fancy desk!
@tombouie
@tombouie 8 месяцев назад
Well-Done, Generral ;)
@abrvalg321
@abrvalg321 8 месяцев назад
11:12 lol what? When did you produce this video then, in June?
@yiannismihail
@yiannismihail 8 месяцев назад
Oh my. Another video that won't age too well...
@michelvalois2325
@michelvalois2325 8 месяцев назад
These videos are incredible. Thank you ❤
@mukhtarappazov9093
@mukhtarappazov9093 6 месяцев назад
Interesting topic. However, the issue is the “Mass”. You did not give any valuable advise how to concentrate assaulting resources without risk of bing revealed and destroyed far ahead reaching the battle field.
@PedroFigueiredo-ti7vu
@PedroFigueiredo-ti7vu 8 месяцев назад
Great video, what about a future video exploring the challenges of conquering and defending Taiwan?
@user-wt1xl6fo7f
@user-wt1xl6fo7f 8 месяцев назад
Excellent video and analysis... Congratulations.
@johnosborne1873
@johnosborne1873 8 месяцев назад
Wow! Love the historical content, but I HAD to watch this one! Great topic! Especially breaching.
@Radowid_V_Srogi
@Radowid_V_Srogi 2 месяца назад
thanks bro for tutorial
@semenivanoff8615
@semenivanoff8615 7 месяцев назад
Did any of that work?
@jeff2146
@jeff2146 8 месяцев назад
So sad that you did not credit MilitaryLand who's Ukraine deployment map you used in this video.
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 8 месяцев назад
Its added. Got that mixed up with the other credit line for the interactive map from the Institute for the Study of War.
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 8 месяцев назад
Although, explosives can solve every problem here. Which is why I love my artillery batteries.
@Mr.Exquisite
@Mr.Exquisite 7 месяцев назад
got blue and red team in reverse, usually red is the offender and blue the defender (more applicable to infosec but still...)
@gomahklawm4446
@gomahklawm4446 7 месяцев назад
Na, it's accidentally correct...
@asavelakuse6865
@asavelakuse6865 7 месяцев назад
actually Russian doctoring colourize themselves Red cause of the Red Army. Hasn't changed the slightest since end of Soviet Union.
@4T3hM4kr0n
@4T3hM4kr0n 8 месяцев назад
15:24 hey Invicta, why do you have flakpanzer Coelians at the battle of El Alamein?
@seb_5969
@seb_5969 8 месяцев назад
You guys really need to watch the video before writing comments
@gomahklawm4446
@gomahklawm4446 7 месяцев назад
Z...
@scipioafricanus2195
@scipioafricanus2195 6 месяцев назад
Pipe dream
@ramlee898
@ramlee898 8 месяцев назад
What about bradley, was it a good vehicle with bad tactic
@gomahklawm4446
@gomahklawm4446 7 месяцев назад
No. Bad vehicle. There's a comedic US video about it. Worth a watch....
@asavelakuse6865
@asavelakuse6865 8 месяцев назад
A much needed update that is needed
@JeffBilkins
@JeffBilkins 8 месяцев назад
17:54 Both sides have remote deployed mines, using artillery or special missiles. The Russians are going complete ham with the automated dispensers that look like an MLRS but like with everything they aren't very efficient so you get those example pictures of mines just piling up in random places. There are still dudes hand placing of course but the big fields can be laid remotely and in bulk fairly quickly. There is all the talk about the first and second line and doing a breakthrough and such but my bet is on a slog with mines all the way.
@fotppd1475
@fotppd1475 8 месяцев назад
"like with everything they aren't very efficient " Sure they just use an artillery that turns infantry into soup and is the absolute terror for the Ukrainian "caravans" (meat grinder conga lines to hell.) Thinking Russia can possibly lose this war is pure science fiction, unless you think Ukraine has infinite bodies to throw for ww1 level of ground gains.
@paulsansonetti7410
@paulsansonetti7410 8 месяцев назад
9:45 Ukraine's disruptive capabilities? Hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha
@Trubripes
@Trubripes 8 месяцев назад
How good is modern tunneling technology? Can they try to tunnel into the Russian defenses the way allies did occasionally in WW1 ?
@tommytomas-fr3sh
@tommytomas-fr3sh 8 месяцев назад
do you think Russia has no spies and sympathizers within Ukraine's army, even Zelensky's inner circle? just consider that before 2014 Zelensky himself could only speak Russian and has been entertaining Russian audiences since 2005.. before 2014, Ukraine's closest ally was Russia! before 2014, most Ukrainian oligarchs like Pietro Poroshenko made money dealing with from Russian mafia to its Oligarch. many of these people are still in Ukraine and even though now they are shouting "Slava Ukraine" they still have close relations with Russia and many of them still have families in Russia. so yes, Russian intelligence still has a strong asset deep inside Ukraine and they will know if someone tries to dig a tunnel into Russia.
@gomahklawm4446
@gomahklawm4446 7 месяцев назад
No, because the local population helps Russia far more than you're told. You're being lied to. 500k dead bc USA wants to control the world....
@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323
@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323 8 месяцев назад
Breaching defenses by the use of heavy armor and covered under heavy pressure by MLRS/artillery then setting up a logistics pathway to supply and exploit the breach!
@Matheus.95
@Matheus.95 4 месяца назад
And anti Air systems
@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323
@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323 4 месяца назад
@@Matheus.95 Totally forgot about that, need air support or anything that can take down enemy aircraft or at least make the enemy think twice before sending out air strikes.
@ivanstepanovic1327
@ivanstepanovic1327 2 месяца назад
How to defeat them? You don't, as we see in March 2024...
@r_rumenov
@r_rumenov 8 месяцев назад
Great content, as always. One correction: cluster munitions cannot be used as de-mining tools. The duds they leave behind effectively re-mine the area. This has been discussed and proven far and wide over the past 2 months.
@geronimomiles312
@geronimomiles312 8 месяцев назад
No, they have been used to create sympathetic detonations which makes the situation better , depending on density , but it's ammo intensive and we've been doling out dribbles of supply. It's a technique for certain circumstances.
@jessehachey2732
@jessehachey2732 8 месяцев назад
It’s arguably safer to deal with a handful of duds from CMs submunitions, which are equivalent more or less to frag grenades, than several more powerful anti-personnel and anti-tank mines…besides, the front is so saturated by mines that everything will need to be cleared anyway. And unlike Russians, AFU is much more diligent in not using CMs near civilian areas and record their use and location…stop with the misinformation and fear-mongering! 🙄 Russia has been using CMs since day one, didn’t see any outrage til now 🙄🤦🏼‍♂️
@picklethepirate
@picklethepirate 8 месяцев назад
​@@geronimomiles312who's we, paleface?
@vladimirstefanovic638
@vladimirstefanovic638 8 месяцев назад
I remember cluster bombs from Nato bombing of Yugoslavia. Terribly inacurate most of them would not explode. Small bombs were the size of an average beer bottle. They would stay unexploded in bushes, craters and ruble. Even a small touch could detonate them. They had little effect on dug in troops but killed many civilians during and after the war. Sending your own troops into cluster bomb area is a suicide and it will ruin their morale.
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 8 месяцев назад
Wow
@steveyi2859
@steveyi2859 8 месяцев назад
About 10,000 mine sweepers
@dvgsun
@dvgsun 8 месяцев назад
"What Will It Take? " - a miracle
@coffeecocaine8878
@coffeecocaine8878 8 месяцев назад
So far three months into the offensive, it seems like a repeat of Kursk, minimal gains, with massive losses in troops and equipment.
@landscapevision6553
@landscapevision6553 8 месяцев назад
Until there is a breech…!
@atozer2547
@atozer2547 8 месяцев назад
Clueless cheerleaders urging ukrainians forward to their deaths......
@abrvalg321
@abrvalg321 8 месяцев назад
@@landscapevision6553 don't fall for misuse of specific words. If it was a breach, Ukraine could pass the 1st line of defence freely. Fighting is going at the 1st line still. Tenet 6: copium
@tommytomas-fr3sh
@tommytomas-fr3sh 8 месяцев назад
@@landscapevision6553 when?
@landscapevision6553
@landscapevision6553 8 месяцев назад
You Ivan trolls live in a alternative reality….tanks and heavy weapons are breaching lines as we speak. Your Sevastopol Naval Headquarters blown to hell with its dead Admiral and officers…The Russian Federation is in in a civil war and your lives ruined driving obsolete Lada’s But you probably don’t live or fight for your country as you are big mouth troll cowards that live in a alternate reality!
@Adilkhan-vk1bp
@Adilkhan-vk1bp 4 месяца назад
When you are able to win, you must seem unable to win
@buryitdeep
@buryitdeep 8 месяцев назад
Seeing how effective drones have been against troops, IFV, tanks, artillery and ships the next war will be a massively increased drone presence controlled by AI.
@BrutusAlbion
@BrutusAlbion 8 месяцев назад
Until it inevitably turns against ourselves 💀
@ihatesovietderp2268
@ihatesovietderp2268 8 месяцев назад
Please credit MilitaryLand for the map.
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 8 месяцев назад
Its added in the description. Initially I had gotten them mixed up with the credit line for the other interactive map of ukraine.
@dimas3829
@dimas3829 8 месяцев назад
That's the neat part - you don't.
@RoboticDragon
@RoboticDragon 8 месяцев назад
Atta be, room for the pup, you know whats up.
@flammamancer
@flammamancer 8 месяцев назад
Someone needs to invent a beam weapon that detonates mines.
@maniac7979
@maniac7979 6 месяцев назад
And где прорыв то
@vitaliyred622
@vitaliyred622 8 месяцев назад
The video gails to capture: 1) there is practically no fog of war, due to 2-4 drones doing intelligence gathering 2) Russia has coordinates for thier trenches, so once they are breached, russians quickly retreat and shell thier positin. 3) Any big Ukraines force gathering is hit with cheap guided bombs due to air superiority 4) Requirements for UA to show progress or they will meet a support cut, thus suicidal attack for little to no gain 5) Remote mine field creation was utterly skipped in the video, which provides constant pain for armored assualts. 6) UA being unable to use mine clearing viehcles, because they simply get hit first, so they stopped using them. 7) Russians allowing the disembarked troops to leave thier carriers befor destorying the vehicle and effectively living them to die trapped/surrender, because they will be shelled. Honestly, with the lack of AA support, almost non-existent air support and Requirements from "their allies" to achieve progress....I don't know how they can win.
@lordaragorn001
@lordaragorn001 8 месяцев назад
sad to see this channel almost become a tool for propaganda during this war...
@lightworker2956
@lightworker2956 8 месяцев назад
Finally a quality comment. Agree, I don't see how Ukraine can win either. If I was Ukraine, I'd start peace negotiations today.
@Nerthos
@Nerthos 8 месяцев назад
From the NATO perspective, there's no gain in Ukraine winning. They're funding and supplying Ukraine solely on the condition that they keep mounting offensives, because the goal is to spend as much of Russia's materiel and manpower as possible before Ukraine ceases to be. "Winning" was never even on the table.
@ryanpauloneeyed9669
@ryanpauloneeyed9669 8 месяцев назад
Apologies for my first comment. Was not intended for this video. In my distraction, I forgot i had moved on from my previous video and paused before watching this one
@steveaustin2686
@steveaustin2686 8 месяцев назад
What do you mean part 1? Pause...
@putin1878
@putin1878 8 месяцев назад
It would be better if Invicta keeps to topics as Ancient Rome where there is more place for fantasies and incompetence.
@jamesevans886
@jamesevans886 8 месяцев назад
I'm not a big fan of Games Theory. Once removed from the simulation environment, it so far needs an additional 18 theories to hold it up in the real world. It still has a few flaws in it created by the assumption that both players want to win. What if a player only wants to play for a draw? The battle of Verdun in WW1 is a historical example of this. The German plan was to keep the battle to bleed the French white. Winning the battle for the Germans was not in their interest. Rather, they needed to keep the battle going to create French casualties going. The Germans failed in implementation as they took nearly as many casualties. The meat grinder needs to be one-sided to work. Game theory does not consider that one player wishes to lose a battle. The counterattack would certainly consider the loss of the first battle. It is to start creating casualties and resource consumption in the attacker. Battle is lost, and the defender withdraws. The attacker must keep contact, ensuring the defender does not create a new defence line. The defender is actually funnelling the attacker into a battle of annihilation that the counterattack is aiming for. This is similar to the game of chess, where a piece is sacrificed to create an advantage that is greater than the loss. Politics, religion, and culture must also be heavily considered as well. Many people are happy to die for politics and religion. With this war, it must be remembered the Soviet culture ingrained into both Ukraine and Russia. Historically Soviet culture is prepared to endure crippling casualties to win. This brings us to the final flaw in games theory in that it expects the losing player to accept their loss. In WW2, both Germany and Japan refused to accept that they had lost. This just extended the misery for up to 6 months. While in WW1, the Germans could see that they had lost and requested an armistice, saving thousands of lives. On the other hand, game theory impeded into a simulation is a great way to teach the fundamentals. You did a great job here, especially getting the basics across with historical examples to help digest them. I look forward to your next instalment.
@legionofthedamned157
@legionofthedamned157 8 месяцев назад
war is hard
@gomahklawm4446
@gomahklawm4446 7 месяцев назад
Nice virtue signaling avatar. Won't help. You can go and fight though. Thats real support instead of virtue signaling.....
@gezalesko3813
@gezalesko3813 8 месяцев назад
why don't you show them?
@yukipaw1702
@yukipaw1702 8 месяцев назад
The first part would be "not announce where and when you will attack the enemy next". That was the stupidest thing I've ever seen a regime at war do, they made a Hollywood-style trailer, took up dozens of interviews saying their objective and set expectation along with a timetable.
@AlexS-zr2nb
@AlexS-zr2nb 8 месяцев назад
Yeah. The first thing that comes to mind is the line from Dodgeball an underdog story with one announcer saying to the other "Bold move Cotton, let's see if it pays off"
@ruVader
@ruVader 8 месяцев назад
but Russia dumb and on brink of colapse announcing was of no harm
@G.A.C_Preserve
@G.A.C_Preserve 8 месяцев назад
@@nicholasgrossman3194 the US also sent money to Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union So is russia a CIA backed coup nation? Seem to be so by your logic
@dariuso2657
@dariuso2657 8 месяцев назад
A braindead take that doesn't even consider the obvious from earlier events of this same war. Ukrainians announced their offensive before and succeeded despite everyone's skepticism. They announced something that was entirely obvious and signalled by their many requests of weapons. What's stopping them is not disclosing a massively obvious intention, but the russian defensive lines built by a semi-reasonable russian commander whose name we don't mention once he felt his offensive capabilities were largely exhausted. Or do you think the massive defensive lines just popped into existence the second Zelensky said they will counterattack?
@gr-8166
@gr-8166 8 месяцев назад
It’s almost like they are telling us giving them money and munitions are helping them. They (Ukrainian officials) are trying to convince the general public that this war and the Ukrainian defensive will crumble Russia. This is the same propaganda Oceania had from big brother. We as westerners have no clue what really is happening from the press, the US being the same people who had coverage of poppy fields in Afghanistan and how those lands are “traditional agriculture” yet it correlates with the opium crisis years after… Literally all the assumptions of Russian stupidity since the Ghost of Kiev made people believe this war was a futile russian ploy…
@neithanm
@neithanm 8 месяцев назад
This is why the internet was invented! I've been waiting so long for a real military analysis of the conflict (any phase!) from a war planner's perspective... thank you so much for this great work. I'd love a 20h hour piece but ofc...!
@todorpamukov7435
@todorpamukov7435 8 месяцев назад
you call this real analysis? This is just a youtuber dreams,war is alot of levels high of this one ;)
@augustusaurelius2628
@augustusaurelius2628 8 месяцев назад
You're fantasizing if you think this is a real analysis. Get a job
@TheRealBillBob
@TheRealBillBob 8 месяцев назад
This is not why the internet was invented. It was invented for scientists. Must be a Millennial. History always began the day before they learned something. 🙄🙄
@williamsheriff6768
@williamsheriff6768 8 месяцев назад
So you want to see real military analysis of the conflict then I would suggest you look at military summary channel where they use all the data that is put out in to the public domain from the different military units that are releasing videos and the official government release of equipment losses and troop losses etc. I would suggest you look at the military summary channel which I have picked this video link because he decided to turn the map around and show it from the Ukrainian and NATO point of view. Military Summary The Fall l Zelenskyy Promises Investors Three Cities By The End Of 2023 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oJcLN2NB-KE.htmlsi=EnY0EOVL5mvqTWS5 Have a good day wherever you are in the world.
@paijokotak6996
@paijokotak6996 8 месяцев назад
Dumping meat to meat grinder is just briliant
@bluetech2809
@bluetech2809 8 месяцев назад
video doesn't really start until 12 minutes in
@saldownik
@saldownik 8 месяцев назад
No chance
@bhaashatepe5234
@bhaashatepe5234 8 месяцев назад
Ukraine is winning on BBC, CNN and MSNBC! that is the most important thing!
@richarddick1842
@richarddick1842 8 месяцев назад
Neat video. Can we have one on how Russia can take Kiev and deal with crossing the Dneiper?
@tommytomas-fr3sh
@tommytomas-fr3sh 8 месяцев назад
i don't think Invicta will do this as he will get demonetized by RU-vid for warmongering and Russian propaganda.
@JunGlisTs0Ldi3r
@JunGlisTs0Ldi3r 8 месяцев назад
I'm afraid that's not going to happen since these videos have to be at least somewhat grounded in reality.
@lucks4fools978
@lucks4fools978 5 месяцев назад
@@JunGlisTs0Ldi3r Then this video is pointless then
@societyreborn33
@societyreborn33 8 месяцев назад
Invicta knows better than NATO 🤣. The audacity
@bosshog8844
@bosshog8844 8 месяцев назад
NATO incompetence is on full display.
@EntryLevelLuxury
@EntryLevelLuxury 8 месяцев назад
They need a d-day level push, but the media might not be able to handle it.
@syedfahim6695
@syedfahim6695 8 месяцев назад
I was wondering why Ukrainian didn't success in their most strongest counter-offensive ? Was Russian were that strong or Ukrainian were just too weak!?😂😂😂
@lightworker2956
@lightworker2956 8 месяцев назад
Why would Ukraine succeed? The Russian side basically has more of everything, and they have certain technological edges as well (e.g. in terms of electronic warfare, cost-effective drones, anti-air and hypersonic missiles). It's basically two sides fighting, and the Russian side has more of everything. So why is everyone assuming that Ukraine should win?
@tommytomas-fr3sh
@tommytomas-fr3sh 8 месяцев назад
@@lightworker2956 the truth is Ukraine is losing from the beginning..the only reason Russia didn't finish it off is because Russia knows that the real enemies are NATO and the US. Russia knows that this is the proxy war they have to fight now and the objective is not to conquer Ukraine, but to bleed off NATO and the US so bad that in the end, they would simply leave like how they leave Afghanistan...broken and broke. 20 years of war, 4 US presidents, and 3 trillion dollars spent, the US only changed from one Taliban to another Taliban. 😂 just look at Afghanistan, what is the US and NATO attitude? it's like they were never there...Russia is bleeding them out financially and mentally in Ukraine. just look at how American attitude has changed from 78% supporting the government back Ukraine in 2022 to 45% supporting the government helping Ukraine now. for the West, the Ukraine war is about how best to attack Russia without having to shed blood of their own while for Russia is all about how to keep Russia intact because Russia is the biggest country in the world. the stake is higher in Russia so they are willing to sacrifice if necessary a million of their men to keep Russia intact by waging war in Ukraine but not in Russia's mainland. unlike the Soviet objective in their Afghan war, today Russia has no interest in spreading Russian ways of life to the world, they try to keep their own intact.
@issober0110
@issober0110 8 месяцев назад
​@@lightworker2956considering that Russia still hasn't pushed back or made any significant advances for well over a year, I will say it is safe to bet that, no, Russia doesn't just have more of everythin, nor an edge over the Ukranians and is on the defensive because they lack the coordination, skills and manpower to actually make a proper counter-offensive. And if Russia do have all that you say they do, then it is still embarassing that the country that proclaimed it could take out the entirety of NATO, can't even properly occupy its neighbour, needing ammunation and weapons from a country that used to be their puppet.
@georgy1858
@georgy1858 8 месяцев назад
@@issober0110 why should they go on an offensive though? They can hammer ukraine with artillery and rocket strikes until they run out of reserves or until they stop getting foreign support, and only then they will go on an offensive. No point taking risks and higher casualties attacking when your opponent smashes his head into a pulp against your defense lines
@paijokotak6996
@paijokotak6996 8 месяцев назад
​@@issober0110russia does not have manpower for offensive. But for deffence they have everything, indeed. Unity among occupied lands are high, the economy is better than ukraine, military productions are not that good but far better than ukraine production and nato supply (at this time) in matter of efficiency. Remember, there still economy war and geopolitics in other places which are not cheap and should be maintain too.
@goodbodha
@goodbodha 8 месяцев назад
The main thing this war should be teaching everyone is that the side that dominates in drone defense and drone attacks will likely do better over the long haul. I think long term as drones get better it will become much harder to keep the logistics close to the front. That is going to be the big thing going forward. If the Ukrainians want to win this war probably the best thing they can do is to attack any and all russian trucks anywhere near the front. Devise a way to have anti truck drones that can loiter on the the ground waiting well off the road. Trucks are detected, drones go into flight and connect to a drone operator who guides it into a target. No trucks. No supplies at the front. Imagine them as being mines that actively seek out vehicles rather than just mines that sit on the ground waiting for a vehicle to encounter them. When that becomes a reality vehicles will either stop making it anywhere near the front or they will have to drive along a route that is hardened against drones. Folks in Ukraine need to develop the following: 1. Drones that can be deployed well behind the enemy lines by piggy backing on another drone. 2. Those drones need to be able to go into a power saving mode on the ground or in a tree etc. while still listening for targets 3. Drones need to quickly connect to an operator when their sensors detect a possible target. 4. These drones just need to be good enough to obliterate a tire, gas tank, or radiator on a vehicle. When they can make that work then focus on making it cheaper and more prolific. When the enemy is losing multiple trucks a day in an area the troops in that area arent getting fed, arent getting ammo, arent getting evaced, and they know it so their morale will tank. Then you can attack. Sure they might still be able to call in artillery support but that just means more trucks driving around for you attack. Sure the artillery might delay things, but pretty quickly those hungry troops will cave. Now imagine that once that becomes the norm of war how in the hell do you keep a tank fueled up or how do you keep plenty of artillery shells available for the artillery piece if the logistics have to pass through the area where the drones are interdicting the trucks. You simply dont. That means artillery has to be further away and tanks are struggling to be effective break out weapons. Sure they might punch through a point of resistance, but then what? They cant go far or they will be out of fuel before they can get back to a safe refueling location. All it takes is a small drone with a small amount of explosive combined with a few minor features that can be worked out.
@bosshog8844
@bosshog8844 8 месяцев назад
The only point that is worth considering in air power. Ukrainians cannot "get it up" and thus will lose. End of story.
@Nerthos
@Nerthos 8 месяцев назад
The only problem with this doctrine is that going forward, it just makes modern war into an even worse mess than it already is. You ensure any conflict becomes an endless slog of blown up trucks and collateral, with huge swathes of land being off limits for both sides. It might seem like an improvement at first, but it won't be as time goes by. It just ensures perpetual war.
@e_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_ejiysb7169
@e_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_ejiysb7169 8 месяцев назад
You forget something, Russia has vastly more of everything. The AFU is dependent on NATO backing them, which are dependent on resources from the east. More and more EU countries are chickening out of the war they so feverishly joined in an extremely zealous way. They seem to forget the history of Russia surviving this level warfare. Their completely out of their depth.
@goodbodha
@goodbodha 8 месяцев назад
@@e_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_ejiysb7169 You seem to think they are chickening out. I think they are just about burned through their older equipment and now its going to be a matter of sustaining ammo for the gear the Ukrainians have. The Russians may have a lot more people elsewhere. They may have a lot more old equipment elsewhere, but none of that will matter if they cant get it deployed into the area of combat AND make good use of it. Will the Russians get better at drone warfare? Yes, but the Ukrainians appear to be well ahead of them on that front and getting better faster. Provided the Nato countries provide them with the drones I think Nato will end up coming out on top by learning from this war AND not having to expend a vast amount of resources to do so relative to what Russia is losing.
@gomahklawm4446
@gomahklawm4446 7 месяцев назад
500k dead, 2M handicapped.....they have zero chance. You're in for a very rude awakening.
@imsusanov2287
@imsusanov2287 Месяц назад
Couch RU-vidr tries to look like walmart Napoleon
@tibersulla2305
@tibersulla2305 5 месяцев назад
You don't, and you will not.
@Atlashon
@Atlashon 8 месяцев назад
Why are these Ukraine videos always the same? Seems dubious. All the other battles are treated neutrally but not contemporary ones?
@TheCosmicGuy0111
@TheCosmicGuy0111 8 месяцев назад
Hm
@Sk0lzky
@Sk0lzky 8 месяцев назад
These legs are fine, t. woodworker (mostly tables and chairs) PS >Warplanners >Shows civvies with no relevant strategic education Kekw
@chrishoff402
@chrishoff402 8 месяцев назад
Rule of thumb in war is the attacker must outnumber the defender by an absolute minimum of 3 to 1 over perfectly flat, open, unprepared ground. Across a river or rough terrain the minimum goes up to a minimum of 6 to 1, against cities and mountains 10 to 1. Force multipliers like tanks, artillery, air support, naval support and drones can shift the odds to a degree, but those odds are the minimums. The Ukraine population has fallen to 18 million in country vs 145 million Russians, attacking against a defender that outnumbers you by a minimum of 3 to 1 is suicide. In order for Ukraine to successfully attack Russia, they have to do so in a completely out of the box, novel manner with either a totally new type of weapon system or a less commonly used weapon system available in enormous numbers but employed in an unconventional way. It has to be done employing the element of surprise, with sufficient speed that the Russian defenses are unable to react in time. If I was in charge of the Ukraine military, and I had just received 33 Billion dollars over 1 year ago, I would have placed an order to be filled in 1 year for 5000 AT-802U Sky Wardens. They can take off and land from a hastily prepared roughly flat dirt runway of only 400 meters length, there should be plenty of land that meets that description just outside the Russian exclusion zone but within striking distance of their air defenses, with the qualifier they have concealment sufficient for 1 crop duster. Sky Wardens come in kits, can be disassembled, smuggled into position one piece at a time and reassembled in a day, along with fuel and ordinance. They can carry 60% the loadout of a A-10. During the year they're being built, train the aircrews on simulators and crop dusters across the planet, even with firefighting crews as cover, because that's how their used in a civilian role. When the time for the attack comes, all 5000 launch at the same time in a low level assault to destroy the Russian air defenses in and around Ukraine, then go on to crater the Russian airfields. Losses would be huge, but once Russian air defenses and air power are suppressed for at least a week or two, there's plenty of time for the survivors to degrade Russian artillery, armor, drone and missile batteries, logistics. It would be more in keeping with the Japanese kamikaze attacks on the U.S. Pacific fleet during WW2. Notice the ground defenses, the minefields, artillery kill zones, entrenchments and bunkers are dead last in order of priority, completely bypassed. When their supporting elements in the rear are defeated they are no more useful than the Maginot line in 1940.
@jakubchalupa8510
@jakubchalupa8510 8 месяцев назад
18 million? More like 37 million, compared to 44 million pre-war.
@lightworker2956
@lightworker2956 8 месяцев назад
​@@jakubchalupa8510 I'm not sure I agree with 18 million. I think 25 million Ukranians is about right. Millions of Ukranians have fled, and also millions of Ukranians are in territory that's now occupied by Russia. The west may claim "those lands occupied by Russia are still part of Ukraine, therefore Ukraine's population is 37 million or something" but even if that's theoretically true, Ukraine can't draft people in Russian-occupied lands. So for the purposes of how many people Ukraine has available to them, you have to subtract the millions of people living in terrain occupied by Russia. In any case, I agree with Chrishoff that Ukraine trying to breach Russian defenses in the conventional way is a losing strategy. The US would never try to breach prepared defenses without artillery + air dominance, and Ukraine has neither (in fact Russia has about a 10 : 1 artillery advantage, and also the advantage in airplanes and helicopters and anti-air). Chrishoff: it's easy to say that you should just surprise the Russians, but with modern surveillance tech, thats not happening. Kudo's on choosing an airplane that can take off from a rough dirt highway, that's a smart idea, but I think by the time those 5000 planes have arrived and you have trained 5000 pilots, Russia will have long ago seen the move coming and greatly expanded their anti-air (which is excellent, by the way). Unless you're basically suggesting that say half the US air force should surprise-attack Russia, which yes may be effective, but that's also basically WW3 instantly. Also, you can argue about the exact figure used, but one site lists one such airplane at $3 billion. So having 5000 of them would cost 5000 * 3 billion = 15 trillion. Meanwhile, Russia's yearly defense budget is around $300 billion. So yeah, sure, if you spend 50x as much as Russia's yearly defense budget you may be able to beat Russia, but where is Ukraine going to get that $15 trillion from? I think the best move for Ukraine is to engage in peace negotiations today and to accept the loss of territory. I know that's not what Ukraine wants to hear, but there's simply no way for them to win this conflict.
@ballisticwaffles
@ballisticwaffles 8 месяцев назад
@@lightworker2956 Lol. "Just give up" I bet your fun at parties.
@Nerthos
@Nerthos 8 месяцев назад
@@lightworker2956 There is absolutely no way one such plane costs 3 billion. No plane costs that much. There's mention of "an initial order of 75 units at a cost of 3 billion" but that's including the investment for the assembly plants.
@Divano-qw2sb
@Divano-qw2sb 8 месяцев назад
Yes but you have to consider the size of the militaries not the size of the popoulations and the ukranian military actually outnumbers the russians due to the numerous mobilizations and a higher number of people disposed to fight (for obvious reasons). Still the entire ukranian military doesn't outnumber 3 to 1 the russian one but it is more than cpable of local numerical superiority.
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 6 месяцев назад
Maybe don't announce your offensive like it's the trailer to a Big Holywoke blockbuster next time and put actual value in the lives of your citizens?
@nyw100
@nyw100 5 месяцев назад
That wasn`t the issue. Russians named all assault brigades and their dispositions way ahead of the start of offensive. Satellite, and local intelligence will pinpoint any significant movement of troops. You just don`t launch frontal assaults without massive superiority in all troops and air+arty especially. But, even if you dumb enough to try, you don`t bash your troops for 4 month thinking that well nothing worked for 10 weeks, oh maybe 11th will make the difference and same next week.
@vladeRSK
@vladeRSK День назад
For any offensive to work you must have , more arty, more air cover, better info, more soldiers, more tanks, neither of those ukraine had, you can now clearly see. Btw, what UKR offensive???
@yourdaddy5435
@yourdaddy5435 8 месяцев назад
Crimea in never I guess lmao
@meetup9408
@meetup9408 8 месяцев назад
Meat grinder for Ukraine infantry
@schlirf
@schlirf 8 месяцев назад
My Granddad and his WW1 buddies would have been shaking their heads and saying the same thing about Ukrainian offensive: Too Light!
@G.A.C_Preserve
@G.A.C_Preserve 8 месяцев назад
That's a dumb tactics, even the Prussian back then knew it, but they did that anyway for some reason
@TGBurgerGaming
@TGBurgerGaming 8 месяцев назад
Cool story. Needs more Winged Hussars.
@mattluke5546
@mattluke5546 8 месяцев назад
Problem is Russia is *too strong* .
@maszk9743
@maszk9743 8 месяцев назад
My great-granddad must be rolling in his mass grave somewhere near Volgograd thinking: whoever thought it was a good idea to get into a war of attrition with Russia again?
@schlirf
@schlirf 8 месяцев назад
@@zeppkfw Yeah, my grandpa passed on in 71. But some of the lesson he learned were recorded in our State Archives.
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