Just a small point for the people talking about this kick in CQC / military training: Military training assumes you're going to have boots on. That makes a *HUGE* difference in the damage potential of this kick--more weight, harder surface, and less likely to slide off the leg. It's incomparable.
What makes it hard to defend is not the kick itself but when the opponent times it well or uses it in a combination where you get distracted by a couple of punches and then he throws the kick. Timing is everything.
Hadn't thought about that switch stance as a counter to that. That's interesting. I am actually doing this video soon of using this kick as a feint to set up the push kick instead of the usual other way around.
may I make a suggestion; fake the oblique into a roundhouse to the head. It is incredibly powerful as you rotate your leg into that leg swing midway through the feint. As always, it is about selling the feint.
The reason switching stances isn't a very effective counter to the Oblique Kick is because the motion could also be the Rear Teep, Question Mark Kick, Snap Kick or Superman Punch to which opening the angle could be a "lights out" mistake compared to checking it and only putting yourself at risk of the Rear Teep if you're wrong. Considering you don't have to turn your leg out in order to check it and blocking it does minimal damage, checking it is the clearly dominant strategy FWIW.
@@andrewferris4539 look hox Izzy countered Whittaker stomps in first fight. Granted that is the highest level of kickboxing you're gonna get. But Izzy was quick enough to slide his front leg back which made rob miss the stomp. After missing the stomp rob is in a very weird off balanced position, at the point Izzy whips the same front leg into the side of Rob's head
Another important defense is to "simply" keeping that front leg active. If you keep moving it (for example by throwing a lot of strikes to the knee yourself) opponent will have a hard time hitting that kick. Robert Whittaker used this tactic very effectivly in his last fight against Romero.
I used to be an MMA fighter then I took an oblique kick to the knee My knees hurt just be watching this. But if I was in a street fight; elbows and oblique kicks all day long! Whatever saves my life.
Amazed that a kick designed to cause permanent crippling damage is even permitted. I like the check best as it builds upon reactions you've already developed and acts as a cover if you misread a stomach kick.
Agreed. This kick is taught to us in the USMC as a technique to use in CQC if our attacker has a knife or other non-firearm weapon. The literal intent is to break the opponent's leg. It really doesn't have a place in combat sports. If your life is on the line, yes. But in competition it's too much. I don't want some young fighter with tons of upside have his career cut short cuz his ACL or MCL got tore off the bone cuz he essentially had his knee stomped on.
I was hit with this oblique kick in a karate fight. The solid year of limping and walking with pain I can never forget. Thank you is not enough for showing us how to simply defend against it❤
I like the last technique best because it's easier to execute and still keeps you in the fight. The leg switch is hardest for non-Muay Thai fighters because they don't usually practice that.
We should bring back eye gouges, groin attacks, head butts, biting, fishhooks, and small joint manipulation. "If someone wants to cause me brain damage, I should be able to do other things that aren't as lethal!"
Much respect young man. I freaking teach Hapkido and that is one of our signature kicks. Practically a master at delivering it but not once did I think of an effective easy defense to it like that. I knew the sidestep but not the shuffle so thanks again.
As someone who has suffered knee injuries this move is particularly hard to watch. The initial damage to the knee is incredibly painful and the knee will most likely never fully recover. It would take so much time to recover enough to train again and the injury will probably reoccur when training. Needs to be banned for me.
Getting knocked out and suffering brain damage takes a long time to recover from. Sometimes months or even years. Sometimes never. Guess we should ban strikes to the head too.
Enough blows to the head can also cause lasting, reoccurring damage. Should we ban strikes to the head, too? Jon Jones, Darren Till, Robert Whitaker, and Holly Holm are some of the best fighters around yet they've never permanently injured anyone or ended anyone's career with that kick. So I doubt the sport of mma will ban it for just one person. Hell, Savate competitors use kicks like this on each other all the time yet they don't complain. Instead of complaining that this or any other move should be banned, try taking heed to this video and learning to defend from it. If you don't learn then you don't grow.
except its not a valid point, oblique kick is dirty and is far more likely to cause permanent damage than strikes to the head. Fuck you guys and your word games, strikes to the head are far different from the dirty Oblique kick
These are helpful techniques. However, the effectiveness of these will depend on the fighter's reaction time and reflexes. The oblique kick is so quick and non telegraphic. Reacting to it on time is one thing, moving the legs after seeing the kick is another. If one will have a reaction time fast enough to avoid the oblique kick, then these are very useful techniques.
if they side step , leg kick them low and they'll slide into the kick probably tripping or stumbling , if they rotate teep them with your lead leg or if they're same height shoot a front face kick down the barrel , once they start blocking, go high when they block low for the head kick
it would be good if you could explain what to do if the kick makes solid contact and you only register it at point of contact. How can the recipient of the kick minimise the damage? attempt to squat down to keep knee bent? allow the foot to slide away on the ground to dissipate the force? I'm just speculating here, what might actually work?
dfpguitar don't let your leg be too stiff on the ground. Similar to the check if you transfer your weight to your rear leg and maybe lift your foot a little it will mitigate the damage. What is causing the damage is getting stiff against the floor and the angle of the strike hyperextending the knee. The strike itself is not that powerful. Honestly though the best defense, like so many other strikes and locks, is defend against it before it is fully applied.
Royce Gracie used the pisao kick in the early UFCs - he used them as an entry to then take the opponent to the ground. If memory serves me right, he used it against Art Jimerson in this fashion. The Pisao Kick looks familiar to this one, but he used it with forward pressure and starting from outside range (as opposed to this one that starts from kicking range where both can kick). Because it wasn't meant to take out the opponent but rather meant as an entry, the pisao was very difficult to counter because of the oncoming forward pressure by Royce. I am interested in seeing if you can do a video about this. I think it is very relevant.
Needed this video, so many new guys come into the gym and try this move out in sparring and it's annoying dealing with those egotistical tryhards. Like I get that you should train how you compete but there's training like you compete and intentionally trying to hurt someone. Luckily for me I have someone strong knees but I feel for anyone who got injured (In Practice) by this move
What if you switch and he kickes you in your front leg you just swiched to? The leg moves forward while switching plus the force your opponent applies to your knee can break it even more easily.
So simple. Side kicks aim thigh. If land on knee, u break ur foot/ hurt ur sole of feet. So all u need to do is lift ur leg up to check. Change angle is nice but uses more energy. Switch stance is beautiful. Switch right hook, circlle out. Nice- ez defence
Thank you fight tips my friend Bonny broke down the kick to me and you taught us how to defend it. It is a very controversial move. It is a confusing kick he will stomp down on your knee. You can use a side stance as well but now I know how to defend it. If I can defend it and I am just a coach now why can't DC do it? I just fought at a semi pro level
Accidently did something like this to someone who charged at me and physically attacked me. He had to have pins put in his knee and was in hospital for about a month.
Once my friend knee stomped one of my other friend he didnt like, few seconds later the one who took the hit was nearly crying and almost real life fight. His leg hurt for some hours, but yeah, this move works guys. Effective too.
I don't think it should banned, there are a lot of techniques that can end someone's career that are not banned. Learning how to defend it is probably the best option otherwise you would end up fighting with pillows
Don't ban a technique just because you don't know how to defend it. That would just be watering down the fight game even more. This is a dangerous sport so learn to adapt.
@Tyler La Pointe The purpose of the oblique kick isn't to give someone life altering injuries 😂 it's to hurt thier leg so they can't use it as effectively. Same as normal leg kicks and any submission tbh
Hi Shane ! I am practicing kung fu and mma . Do you have any advice to prevent me from getting injured during my practice ? I am having shoulder pain after yesterday’s practice session.
Could you make a video on dirty techniques for life & death fights on the streets (groin attacks, throat attacks, fish hooking, small joint manipulation, biting, eye gouging, etc.)?
I personally believe it should be banned. Reason being is that although there’s already so many dangerous attacks allowed in the sport this attack in particular has the ability to take away the mobility of rising stars or greats and ruin there entire careers. If you hear Robert Whittaker talk about Yoel Romero’s oblique kicks I’m sure he feels the same way. That being said the video is very useful when dealing with d- bags.
Khabib Nurmagomedov This is true. Whittaker describes this as more retaliation to his oblique kicks then anything though. I mean if someone ruthless enough to throw an oblique kick on me he has to be man enough to take in return.
Best would be if someone would really punish someone throwing those kicks in a fight. Something that would change the game so nobody would throw them anymore. Maybe that shufflething .. it would be cool to see :)
Was wondering if being a little heavier in the rear leg would be beneficial? Asking for a muy thai style. Where that lead leg is almost bouncing. Believe it is called "Bangkok style". Thanks!
Shane I’m really fast and aggressive but I have a lot smaller reach then the people I spar at my boxing gym,as they’re a lot older than me, so I struggle to land without being hit. What should I do to try and land more punches on my opponent? Please answer in next vid. Love your vids and keep it up
Hey Shane, I've been watching your videos for a long time and always enjoyed them. Now though, I have a question. I really love martial arts, so I want to join a local MMA gym. Trouble is, I don't actually want to compete in MMA, I want to avoid brain damage and the only experience I have is with TMA, do you think that will still be able to fit in and benefit if I join? if anyone wants to chime in please do.
You're probably hyper extending by whipping your arms out too hard. I hurt myself sometimes too, and it's always when I over extend, especially with my jab. Lately I've been slowing it down and really concentrating on my form so that it's on point for when I do speed back up again.
As a huge MMA fan I think you saying the stance change being effective as a defence is total nonsense. If it were that easy everyone would do it, Darren till just had his knee blown out by the reaper last night and he is one of the main throwers of that shot.. the only real defence is hope you see it coming and check/lift the leg
There's literally nothing you can do against this kick, because it's just too fast and these defensive techniques shown are just too slow to do in real fights. Especially those pivot and shuffle movement. Even lifting your leg up takes time and that kick probably already reached the target before you even lift the leg.
Rear oblique kicks are almost non telegraphic. If you are busy with his hands and are within range they will almost always land. Best practice is to stay out of range and close in when your opponent is charging.
All strikes have the potential for permanent damage, but a strike that is specifically meant to do permanent damage shouldn't be allowed. If permanent knee damage can pass, then why not just allow eye gouging and stomping.
It sucks that the old school Savate street fighting teachers are now dead . The French Foreign Legion is maybe the last bastion for learning the oblique kick and proper shin stomp to the ankle which is a fight ender . The jumping oblique kick forces the opponents leg Down and forces the opponent to put their body weight to the ground . Having ZERO upper body strength , tiny arms and legs is not on the agenda .
Good. But the really problem is timing. it is almost impossible to understand when and how oblique kick will come. The kick is too fast to avoid if well executed. Counter technique is theoretically good, but in practice almost impossible to perform. My opinion.
Hey Shane I have a possible option on countering the straight line low kicks. I would love to share them with you and have your opinion on them, Please message back if possible, Thank you.
A lot of this isn't entirely relevant because no one who actually knows how to use this kick would ever throw it when their opponent is squared up right in front of them standing still, ready to counter
