How To Do Psytrance Kick and Bass Alignment - by E-Clip 

This is the right process to create a psytrance bass, and it's fortunate that some people know how to do it. There are so many RU-vid tutorials teaching techniques that don't suit this genre.

I know the feeling "this must be boring for others". That is often not the case. Thank you for this valuable tip. I'm wating for your next lesson. ;-)

I don't think these videos are getting boring. This one is fascinating, when I started making trance in 1994 we never considered the science of sound at all, things are so different now, at 52 I still love trance music production

this is a really good way of doing it! I was working on a track with a friend a while back.. & he used this method.. & there was also a snare in that project that was called e-clip xD Now I know where that came from & how he knows about this. he did a masterclass with you

Marko, you're a fucking MASTER!!! Thanks to share with us all these tutorials... I'm waiting for your next videos making your next song ;)

man u just saved a lot of years

I love this! I don’t have bluecat, but would love to have it someday. But this definitely helps my summing problem that I’ve had. Now I can increase the overlapping bass a bit more so I get that rolling bass without the summing! 👍👍👍

Your tutorials are never boring!! Top tutorial as usual!! Cheers

I absolutely love your tutorials because of the way go into scientific detail explaining the reasons for your sound design choices

looking forward for your videos! 🙏 thank you so much for sharing your knowledge

Don't give up on technical topics!!!

Awesome stuff mate! Thanks so much for all your great videos!

That does sounds perfect, I can hear that all day.✌🏼

Cool technique and easy to understand. Not boring at all! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

Thanks for sharing bro. By far one of the best and simple kick and bass mixing technique.

Nice Tutorial, as always. I really appreciate that you do these tutorials and share your knowledge with us. Keep doing these, it aalways motivates me to produce.

So simple but so effective Thank you.

First time i hear about this kind of '' alignment ''. Interesting technique! Thanks for sharing!

perfect as always

wow this is some next level stuff

Welcome back!!! Thanks for this tutorial!!! It's way simpler yet super effective... sometimes less is more!

Awsome Master . Thank You

Wow..thanks so much for share your knowledge With US!

Great content thankx m8 💪👍🏻

I'm looking forward to the next videos

thanks a lot E-clip ..lets try this

Don't mess around, we have one of the absolute Legends teaching us!! Like-share and effeng subscribe!!

Really good tip more of it please

thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge

Thank you!!

Thanks so much!

Nice Work 🙏

perfect .thanks

good video bro ! usefull even for forest and dark, well done !

Great tutorial. And it makes a lot of sense, since in the end it is the fundamental of that first low velocity bass note that causes problem and needs to be aligned with the tail of the kick. And as you well said, no need to tune your kick to the fundamental of your bass, which is great thing, especially in tracks with lower key. In addition, when you follow the phase alignment procedure, in the end it will add up with the kick, resulting in more overall subs, which is not necessarily desirable.

Awesome thanks alot

Awesome I'm really looking forward to the coming tutorials and the new music from you :-)

YOU ROCK...........

Great ideas e great video!!! Thank you! Almost all videos on 5his subject are dealing with down beat tempo kicks. I never saw som showing how to do the same with a bar full 9f swingged sincopated kicks on it... I'll try to do that...(not a video)

When a master of the art tells us about his mistakes. Even today after how many decades?^^ Important message actually. Well done Video

hi mate ..i do something similar to this sometimes with my basslines tho i was never expert in psytrance hehe..E-Mantra salutes you

Красавчик продолжай братка!!!!

thank you

Gracias 🙏❤️💯 this Is the best way because in psytrance base has 3 notes, so instead of reducing the kick reduce the first base AND kick Will still be powrful

Thank you1

Very nice, now i found my mistake i had boost in this area between 50hz till 100hz and i was wondering from where it comes and it was sounding with a lot of boxiness my bassline, the low end was not tight as it should be, big difference and great fix 🙏 thanks again Marko

Amazing bro thanks 🙏🏻 1 small note 😊 this is actually not aligment but un-alignment... when they are perfectly aligned we get the sum problem ❤

Day Din has a similar approach in his masterclass, but he puts a lowcut on the first 16th Bass. It makes sense that you say it´s worse because of the Phase Change when doing a lowcut. So your aproach with just reducing the first Harmonic, seems much more logical. Thanks again for those professional Tipps.

Marko, confinement made me start to learn music production last year and you are the closest thing i've had resembling a teacher. Although I follow a bunch of channels, you are especially inspiring and your teaching method is awesome, as you focus on making us learn on our own. You could simply make patches/specific sound tutorials and then share them with us but you prefer to dig deep into the process of doing something instead of the results, which is quite amazing in my opinion. Personally, I have liked every tutorial for now. Although they were more difficult to follow when I started my (for now) short journey into production, with a bit of research on my own about certain concepts, soon I appreciated the technical complexity that you want to reduce in the following videos. I am not telling you that you shouldn't change the tone or depth of your tutorials, but be aware that little people out here on youtube go as professional as you, and is something that we, newbies, are eager for. However I trust in your decision making and this change will be certainly for good. Im eager to hear what you have to say about other not so technical topics. PS: As a graduate in Linguistics with a Masters in Teaching, I praise you for your really good English, your teaching methodology, and the wisdom and insight you give us. Thank you very, very much.

I swear I read Kick Ass Alignment lmao Cheers from a brazilian producer man, stay safe!

nice video bro... i saw this trick from some israeli artists and it s nice u want to share this great techniques whit all.... the knoledges must to be share with all. well done!

That's a very nice technique. I think this can be applied using a multiband sidechain like Cableguys VolumeShaper too right? Great content!

Thanks for the nice Tutorial! Another easy way of doing this would be with e.g. the EQ 'Frequency 2' from Cubase 11 - which now has a sidechain option, so you can simply duck the 1st harmonic of the first bassnote by sidechaining it with the kick

Dear Marco. Thanks for all of the impressive knowledge you're sharing with us! Do you think this technic will be suited for a melodic Bass notes as well? All the best.

Nice one. Another cool way that is similar to the second technique you showed is to lower the first bass note with a multiband volume shaper, like Shaperbox.

🙌🏼🎹

Your experience benefits us all, great tutorial!. I purpose a different approach regarding to canceling the first harnonic (in serum): open the wavetable editor, click on wavetable to FFT, lower the first harmonic all the way down and that's it! This technique allows better control on wave characteristics and harmonics.

I just realised that the SM9 are 3k a speaker! Damn son!

Thnx for the tip , i think till now you covered basics about making kick and bass , pls make tutorial about mastering kick and bass , thnx

Great Explanation i wonder how this could be used on EDM more house bass where the fundamental keeps changing

I've been saying the same thing here... So many "ducking" plugins that are useful but I think that three ways are useful to get rid of phase issues between bass and kicks. 1- Phase align - if this can fix, why not? The surgical method takes some time and demands a lot of willpower. And if your bassline has more than 1 single note, you'll notice that each note has a different wave cycle time, of course... ...so, your "phase alignment" will be lost unless you change the kick pitch and the bass pitch together. 2- Dynamic EQ, precise and isolated on bass, use to be the best, but if you have a Soul rhythm (not that 1 kick hit by tempo bar) and a musical bassline (not that one-note Chinese torture), you'll have some problems, too. Because the fundamental note of the bass will change constantly. 3- Ducking. The Bazooka fixing style. Don't kill the reaches, turn the building down...

thx Marko o/

I bought cable guys volume shaper for multiband lfo. I used to low cut the first note with linier phase on a second channel but its too slow and no good for melodic bass. Lfo tool has frequency split but it changes phase of all bass notes. Volume shaper doesn't seem to do this and now i am getting pro kick bass with nice mellodic bass. Peace

9:20 you can just do this while designing the bass in the synth. You can just remove the first fundamental in the wave editor.

Hey Marko, just found you via this video. Tbh, that's a very interesting technique that I haven't tried out myself yet, will go back to studio and see if it solves my low-end problem. Btw, I was wondering if you could make a video on mixing (and maybe mastering) a whole track? I think I got my production side in a good spot now but I really struggle to get my mixes to a commercial level and this holds me back. I don't mind if you would start a Patreon for more advanced content, if there are other producers out there who would appreciate information on that topic.

Thank you for this video. Very helpful as always! One question though: You said something about using the linear phase mode of the equalizer but it was set to zero latency in this example. Is that actually something you have to worry about or is it not that important? Thanks man, Cheers

If you make your bass in serum you could do this straight from the synth. Just remove the first harmonic from the wavetable editor, add a sine from sub oscillator that will be your first harmonic and with an LFO set to 1/4 reduce its volume for the first note. Or you could use some multiband dynamic sidechained to the kick to only lower the low-end of the bass. I usually used this a lot for making KBBB instead of KbBB, so I could keep the presence of the first bass note without boosting all the low-end

It's good, but it would be better if you give a sample of how to create the kick and bass. in the different tools

Nice technique.thanks for the video.i am curious bit though...dont you Already mess with the bass note phase when you use the fabfilter and decreasing its 1st harmonic ? i mean this is probably why it sits in the grid with the kick that good,because its Not a random harmonic so the phase can change in the wrong position , its the exact note's phase so it aligns perfectly.Nice videos mate,keep it up ! Thank you for sharing.

Amazing content bro... very valuable tip!!! Thanks a lot for share it! I Have one question though... When I´m doing a Woobing Bass, with some LFO automation, or Square Bass, with some legato and pitching movement, do I need to align them with Kick as well? And how do I convert them to audio, being that one note depends on other, and I can´t do it individually as a typical rolling bass?

Does the size of the room maters for hearing the low frequencys corectly. What is the size of you room?

thanks a lot. i spend hours on aligning the phase, and at the end become unsatisfied with the result, since the sound of K&B has changed as well

Thank you so mutch for this!!! I finally understand it!!!🙏🏽 but...just one Thing...so im 100%...should I cut the lowest harmonic with liner phase or zero? You say liner phase bud use zero in the video😅🤷🏽‍♂️🙏🏽 and do you then use liner phase on the main base channel after or zero?🙏🏽 Again..love this approach! And love your content and music!🙏🏽 so helpfull!

psy trance is so intense. and i’m a d&b head

I totally agree. I always do this. It's life savior. But i use this technique with an another way. I reduce/remove the first harmonic from the bass directly from wavetable synth harmonic graph and then i rendered into sample after all the processing.

Marko, What do you think about use PHP in the first 1/16 bass to a best align with king after the phase changes in Zero Latency Mode. I know its a small thing to worry but I only curious about your thought. Thank you a alot for your knoloedge, affort and your patience.

Marko one question, What studio monitors do you have? Thanks bro 👏

how to make a replace of pitch shifter in ableton?

how are you determining the reduction in db for the first bass note? Just to create the galloping sound to taste? Or does that also come into the kick and bass relationship. Cheers

making a kick and bass here I bought megascope yesterday

Just curious what you would do when changing the key of the bassline? Say the track changes from F to G, do you just make another bass channel and repeat the process for the harmonic of the new key?

Is there any oscilloscope like this for other DAWs?

Why only the first harmonic? Can the 2. Or the 3. Not cause phase issues aswell?

We can check together nothing happen.... SOunds the same, Oscillations K&B are the same. It's like a Dj turning up a knob but nothing changes. But still a good content video.

Thanks Marko so much! But one question! So, we are removing 1st harmonic from the 2/16 bass, but we are put new one harmonic (from the kick) to free place! In other words we change phase of the 1st harmonic of the bass, if the pitch of the bass and bassbody of kick are equal. So we can get a different waveforms of bass tail in 2/16 and 3/16, 4/16 bass notes! Is it good for kick&bass sound? If we are aligning kick and bass with your standard tutorial, we have a similar bass tails (2/16, 3/16, 4/16) but now we could get a new one bass tail in 2/16!

I have one strange issue (ableton user) I tried to add pha 979 and later i add lfo tool. But the problem is that as soon i add lfo tool after pha 979 the graphical spectrum is screwed completly. Kick shows up somewhere in the middle of the spectrum which is weird. Even with the delay i couldn't fix it. So i can't cut the 2. Note with the lfo tools.. Do you know how to fix that??

Why not just move the first note of the base over, and line the phase with the kick? That's the way i do it.

IF I CAN'T HEAR A DIFFERENCE WHY WHOULD I DO AN EXTRA WORK FOR THE SAME RESULT?

I dont understand this. Every video I've seen has always said to not have ANY bass overlapping with the kick at all. So why are you doing that here?

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why so complicated? can you nit just send a sidechain from the kick to the node in pro-q?