Me too. I had been so focused on getting into a situation where I can weasel my hand in, that when I did, it completely went out of my head what I needed to do for the rest of the move 😂.
@@umarkhaliq3517 yh till got smashed. It was funny how he didn't really know what to do when it came to grappling. But then again he took some heavy elbows so he was probably hurt.
@@silverfullbuster9177 his grappling isnt too bad tbh. Plus hes a huge guy too. I just think the occasion plus a bit of a beating got to him. Hope he bounces back, hes a right character
Yes, i have seen street fights where this would have finished the deal. I do not like the ground ,but if you are there,and their be a great chance that you will, this will stop the aggressor.
Came here cause I barley starter jiu jitsu and I noticed when we do live drills I can get this choke but just don’t know exactly how to execute it cause I’m new but thank you for the help!!
I love that d'race from half guard. if you can't finish the choke then you can still use it to pass...then choke. if you're arms are too short gable grip behind the guy's head and scissor down and take the pass.
So essentially what they are doing is the exact same because they end up in the fore arm down position. The 2nd part just adds in what I think is a very important structural detail for guaranteeing the choke and that is starting to secure the choke from the forearm if you miss getting straight to the forearm down/cupped bicep position. Then start there and transition to bicep and complete choke. Lol
I think that when you’re doing it how he did it the first time, leaning to your left so you’re pulling the neck up and pushing the head down would make it even more effective. Instead of just laying flat on their head and neck.
I prefer to capture a leg. If they can run away and go belly down there’s no choke. The sprawl finish isn’t the best, but Kesting’s finish from the half guard is 👌🏼
But second variation you can often see referred to as a short arm Darce. Jeff Glover teaches it often. The Japanese necktie from everything I've seen looks fairly different but thank you for the videos
He ain’t gonna be finishing hooker with that one tonight bud but yeah DP’s d’arce is pretty unreal it was kinda funny that Zombie beat him with his own favourite choke though
+Brandon Quick i tought so too, about that, isn't the guy in the second choke just asking to be put in a deep half? I'm probably wrong tough, i'm usually am...
Thanks for sharing the info. About the variation, getting the opponent to tap, and choking them out is different. If he's still awake, but just submits, he's free to attack you and now more aware of your abilities.
The way I was shown the Japanese neck tie was to place the edge of my forearm against the chin of my opponent, gable grip my hands and keep the back of my opponents head againts my chest from sprawl. then you lean back to crank the neck, kind of like a modified guillotine. Is that a Japanese neck tie, or is it really just a modified guillotine from sprawl?
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that a strangle not a choke? I'm also sure that the triangle choke (sankaku jime) isn't actually a choke it's a strangle
You can see this old school Judo choke in the 1949 Budokwai film on the Judoka, Hal Sharp channel if you skip to the newaza section you will see it as well as other rediscovered so-called BJJ techniques. Knee on belly is Uki-gatame Darce choke is a Hadaka-jime variation etc., nothing new under the sun. Sorry but all these phonies claiming they discovered the wheel is too much. Refined? Nope.
