How to EASILY Achieve BEST IN SLOT Mods: Marvels Midnight Suns 

It definitely is, but I would advise players that haven't completed the story to not use Legendary Blueprints, and instead disassemble only Epic and lower, save your Legendaries and if you don't have other blueprints, simply craft them - Essences are easy to get, much easier than Legendary Blueprints during story, in end game you get access to more Legendary Blueprints but still you will not always have a mission wich rewards one.

Haha I think for alot of Devs they want to system to be so complicates it seems random. But I agree after NEW GAME + they should let you sandbox the whole game, you've clearly already beaten it and done to initial "intended experience"

im struggleing with cards that allready have a mod on them. does this mean i just have to consider the mod it came with as the first roll subtracting 1 from what i need to craft/roll?

@@gioquarto1219you can salvage that card as the salvage will remove mods first, so you will get vanilla card to do this .

@@gioquarto1219 If the mod you wanted was at eight, craft six cards, and mod the card twice to get to eight. This is for both cards that came with mods and those that didn't.

you're very welcome!

@@Channel5Gaming Edit: It's finicky, sometimes rolls depend on the choice you pick on uncover roll but it's the hands down best method anyone figured out, mad respect to you man. WIsh you mentioned that you need to "uncover" the seed on already modded cards, realizing that earlier would save me lots of grief (or maybe you did and I missed it). Anyhow you got a like and sub from me, quit slacking and give us more build videos xD

People like us are a minority, it seems. Most people like the RNG.

They just want the most $$$ possible.

I guess some people prefer RNG instead of getting exactly what they want… it’s like this: - Some people like opening up the present more than what’s inside - People like me want to go to the store to buy exactly what we want (or we give a very specific shopping list to the gift buyer)

It’s to stop/reduce copy paste build. A lot of gaming moments is having subpar ability and win, also, it helps to find new meta as casual might accidentally find an op strat instead of parroting most popular builds just because it’s the most famous on the internet

So annoying omg . I hate this kind of rng becausevif you dont know what you are doing . You Just simply get bad builds. Like the game hate the rng. If you ask ne remove the mods alltogueter . Building cards is more than enough rng sheesh

Is this true?

@@jaidenschallhorn8009No it still works 100%. I was just a noob at the time and figuring it out.

You can use a card that has been modded already yes! IF the card hasn't been modded you just have to remember that you need ONE roll to uncover the hidden choice attached to the card. So if your 7th seed is the mod you want, you craft 5, so 6 can uncover and 7 can roll what you want! In terms of farming materials. I don't think a video is necessary. Generally my rule of thumb is to just farm Legendary blueprints, and credits missions. The amount of gamma coils that will pile up in your inventory. Just dismantling those cards will give you more than enough essences. If you happen to be really low on essenses, just run the missions that give 200 of each for a while. That should do the trick!

@@Channel5Gaming thank you so much I love your content can’t wait to see your ghost rider he is my favorite character by far

I answer your question at about 19:20 in the video. For whatever reason opening up coils doesn't advanced the seed. I do believe however they advance or scramble the seed when you AQUIRE them. So the moment the game generates the coils, it seems to advance the seed. Which would be in the morning after a rest or a mission. In terms of acquiring cards from Intel, I have not tested that as I don't generally send out heroes on OPs anymore. In terms of the grouping of mods. I do not have a clear list. But the knowledge was acquired by the seed sampling as shown in the video. Basically if the 7th roll gives you +1 move on one card, but Free on another. We now know that these 2 rolls are groups together for that particular type of seed or rarity. I suppose If I simply seed sampled across 10+ cards, I could indefinitely discover what all possible rolls for a particular seed rarity are. But I generally stick to the method of testing 10-20 seeds ahead on 2-3 cards, and simply end up seeing what I want. Then use card crafting to skip rolls. So I don't really NEED to know what the groupings are, if i'm rolling successfully to begin with. -Hope that helps!

You progress up the seed when you have the thing that you want. In the case here, what's happened is that once you reset your seed by doing a mission and going to the next day, you can start this again from zero. If you find an On KO Gain Counter, you have a pretty good shot that it'll be Strengthen instead for that Quick Swipe.

I tried everything in the video, as well, and has no effect on my PS5 game. I assumed I was just not following it correctly, but maybe the console has a different method of number generation than a PC.

@@xthatwhiteguyx I actually figured it out. You can't bring it to one roll away. You can do this method to where you're 2 rolls away from what you want

@@mitchlacasse361 Orly? I have tried crafting multiple cards, and it's had no effect on my 'seeds.' So back to me not knowing what I'm doing.

Unfortunately I couldn't find a resource that shows the seed roll categories, but as I mentioned in the video. The Epic and Legendary seeds seem to have TINY roll pools compared to the more common ones. You mentioned knockback, which I believe is "rare" but it won't roll into something like Quick. I do know however FORCEFUL KNOCKBACK is in the same category as Quick. Therefor is you see forceful knockback, and take it. Next time it comes up it will likely roll Quick instead. This is why I mentioned doing 3-4 card samples, because if you say came across "knockback" on your 5th roll into the seed. You can test on 3 other cards and see what OTHER options roll in that same category. With enough testing, I suppose we could in fact write down all the potential roll options for a particular rarity. The important thing to take from the sampling of 3-4 cards, is that you will likely find at least 1 or 2 rare or legendary options in a seed number. From there you've locked in a golden choice for SOMETHING. What I can offer, is my knowledge of "red flags". When I come across things such as: +1 move, forceful knockback, those tend to roll into Free, Quick or 50% damage. When I see anything with 2 in front, such as gain 2 resist, apply 2 mark, etc.. I know those can roll into the amazing +2 heroism. But the pool seems to be slightly larger, so I just look for 2's and pray to the RNG gods when trying on a card I need 2 heroism on.

can confirm as of 2/22/2024 this works and has not been patched out

It’s definitely more fun

Based on your description. You said Free showed up 12 rolls in. That means your 12th seed is the "legendary seed". You then crafted 15 cards. Each card crafted advanced the seed by 1, a crafted card counts as a roll. So your 12th crafted card stole the "free" seed, and you continued to pass it 3 more seeds to 15. What you should have done was crafted 10 cards, the 11th seed was to uncover the pre-determined seed attached the the card, then the 12th would be the Free you were looking for. So you would have by passed 10 rolls worth of credits by crafting 10 cards. But you crafted too many. As mentioned in the video, make sure you don't have gamma coils piled up, it will bug out the ability to skip seeds by crafted cards.

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You don’t see another card, because it will ruin the order if you do that. For example, if you found one card has your desired mod after 9 tries, go craft 7 cards right away. You only want to see another card after you get your desired mod on your first card because crafting cards push mod orders of all cards. If you go check on other cards before getting you wanted first card, you are not going to get the mod you want after 7th tries.

If you don’t get anything you want on the first step, go play a game, it will reset the mod list when you comeback so you can repeat the first step

blame the random number generator on that. many times, the quick or the free just wont pop up. it seems to change with each card after each day after you go on a mission. keep trying on other ability cards and see if that works too. yes, i know thats a lot of tedius work

For me crafting a card does not work to move along seed.

I’m getting that same issue it seems to not advance the seed predictably when I craft cards

if it took you 10 tries to get the mod ability you want on that card, reload your save file, craft 8 random ability cards from the forge, go back to the card you want modded, mod it twice and it should pop up then.

Do you have coils stacked up? That causes issues

@@Channel5Gaming No coils at all

@@Channel5Gaming you need to make another video about re-rolling the mods because the developers seem to have fixed these with the Deadpool, Morbius and Venom DLC.

OKay, finally after hours of REWATCHING this ENTIRE video printing out and REREADING both the google doc and wiki mod page I was able to get this to work. Successfully got quick on both reaper cards and +1bleed on strike for Blade. As of 02/19/23 this does work and a HUGE thank you to Channel5 who scienced the heck out of this! Duh me. lol

@@HomercidelRage07 Can you tell me what was the issue, because I have the same problem, I tried both with modded and unmodded cards, I make sure I have no coils, I check the seed until I see the mod I want, I reload, craft cards, come to mod station, uncover first locked mod, and seed isn't advanced at all. Any ideas ? (I am on PC oh and I do have deadpool DLC maybe it's that?)

You have to mod the card once BEFORE the seed you want because the mods within the card are set in stone. The card doesn't pull from the seed until after its been rolled. So if the seed you want is 4, only craft 2 cards to advance the seed to 2. Then mod to uncover the current selection and advance to 3. Then mod again to acquire the 4th seed selection.

@@Kenz305 ahhhh right so whilst it skips the seed it doesn't regen from where they were at until one is done. Totally makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up mate :)

@@Kenz305 I see your edit - it looks to me that the card in the video was already modded though. I get the must mod it once as that's in the video. I guess my question is more about cards that already have a mod on?

@@danewatts7659 Its the same either way. Had to change my phrasing there.

I agree that the RNG for modding is frustrating, and hence why I came up with a method to make it easier. But that's intended to keep you grinding the end game and keep playing. Which isn't much different from most game.

@@Channel5Gaming I used an Identical spreadsheet method for Monster Hunter World. The Gem system and the manner you gamble for them is identical to Mods in MS. I think the only problem with how games handle systems like this, it can literally result in 50-100 hours of farming, or spending 2-3 hours, gaming the system via spreadsheets and save scumming. Neither solution is remotely fun, and you are forced as a player to ''cheat'', and even cheating is wasting hours of your time. Just to give you some perspective, imagine how bad it is going to be, to roll for the mods you want, when there are new mods added in the future? The pool gets bigger and the RNG increases ( experienced it in MWH, after they kept adding new gems, the chances of even seeing the gem you wanted became astronomical). As I said, I hope there are PC mods in the future that allow us to manipulate this system. Overall, I am enjoying my time with the game, and thanks again for the guide.

@@HArryvajonas You're very welcome for the guide. And I can relate to your frustrations with the system. In my review for the game I finished the game at 150 hours, if you havn't seen the review here it is: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-t4rNXPhPgvM.html I now have 250 hours clocked into the game. Most of my other hours clocked on the game has been gathering footage for future videos, and generally have the game open when making my spreadsheets and theory crafting. I have certainly NOT spend majority of that extra time played "re-rolling mods". Maaaybe 20-30 hours tops to achieve BEST IN SLOT mods across 12 heroes +Hunter, PLUS additional cards to try different builds. So lets say I averaged 10 cards per hero, that's 130 perfect rolls using this system. Part of the fun for me, was having some sort of "end game" where I had PURPOSE to do something other running missions "for fun". Having a goal or reason to farm missions, is in fact that of the modding system. After achieving the best mods for every ability in the game, I still have not capped out on hero Stats, champion levels, etc.. Simply because there are too many heroes to pick and choose from to min max. My point, the modding system actually went quicker than expected and now if I want to push my heroes further. I'm simply doing it "for fun" at this point. And without a goal to strive for, it sorta sucks the fun out of it. Conclusion: As grindy as the modding system seems at first, I personally wish it took a bit longer as it would incentivize me to continue playing! The Game offers a NG+ mode, but as mentioned in my review. It NUKES pretty much all your progress other than the heroes you've unlocked. I hope the developers add in a NG++ mode where we can carry over our min maxed heroes and even push them further. While also introducing new difficulties for min/max builds and champion levels in consideration. Cause playing the campaign is certainly more fun than the "end game". This would definitely get me playing the game further! But 250 hours played, the game certainly offers enough value for your buck!

Theirs also the thing that, you dont need the best mod in every card to win in the highest dificulty, this is in fact overkill for what the game can throw at you at max dificulty.

@@MrTeucro99 I 100% agree. I wish they would add in higher difficulties for this very reason. When you give the players the ability to achieve such heights, it's always nice to have a difficulty to match that. Much like in Xcom you are striving to min max cause the chosen difficulty is so punishing, I wish that were the case here as well. For me, Min Maxing is just fun.