The most useful video I’ve seen on improving in mania. Many things I didn’t know about, many actually useful resources. Thank you so much! Deserved a sub. Completed first 3 batches and I hope the rest are just as good
I've been working on the improvement batches for about a year now, here's my experience so far: Batch 1 - 05/04/23 ~ 07/23/23 I went into these pretty much right as I started playing mania, and I had next to zero VSRG experience. I started off unable to pass most songs in the first batch, so I worked on the lower diffs of everything first (makes me wonder if a "batch 0" is warranted?). Get Your Wish and Nanamori are the ones that gave me the most trouble. Nanamori was just too fast for me at the time, and streaming proved to be a pretty huge issue for me. Batch 2 - 07/23/23 ~ 11/07/23 Trickstarz is by far my most played map at ~90 plays, which I think is saying something. I S-ranked most of the other maps in this batch with only like 3-5 tries (Sayonara Planet Wars and Rubik's Cube took a bit longer). Developed super mindblock after being stuck on one map for like 2 months, eventually got through it. Batch 3 - 11/07/23 ~ 11/15/23 First try S-ranked pretty much everything. Obviously I was playing other stuff while doing these batches and my non-streaming skills improved enough for me to be able to blast through (I was also just having a really good session too). The endurance training map is the only thing that took me a little bit, I had started to feel a bit dizzy or something near the end of that one. Batch 4 - 11/15/23 - Now I feel pretty happy with how much my streaming has improved by this point. But oh god. I suck at jumpstream. Around that time I kinda started looking for other jumpstream maps to improve with before trying to tackle some of these. At this point I only have Heaven's Fall left, but I still don't feel like I'm close on that one. Thanks for putting those batches together, it's been nice having some clear goals to work towards instead of just grabbing and playing random maps.
Since the day I started I'm always looking pretty much where the combo number is, when I need to focus I look a bit below (slightly below where the 300 appears when you explain). Also those batches are SUPER helpful, I struggle quite a bit on the first one but managed to snag the A rank a bit earlier. Soon It's all gonna be S and will proceed to higher difficulties on the maps I have (which I already did on some) and will take batch 2! I can play from 4k to 6k (struggle a bit on 6k) but 7k I just can't, maybe I need to learn but I just can't find a comfortable key setup
Oh shit i didnt know about the converted maps in osu no wonder some songs felt as the doubles and triples were there to fill in space good video man u got a sub
Re-learning on how to play osu mania. I quitted osu mania for about a month then suddenly lost all skills. I hope this video can make me better than before. on my way to 4digits
been playing the improvement batches fairly actively since 7th of july starting at batch 1 and today just finished batch 4, i want to share some of my experience with the batches so far (mostly batch 4) and probably update this as i progress more :D Batch 1: i had some basic 4k experience prior to this so i blasted through batch 1 in one go without much trouble, the 5 minute long songs were quite new to me and i wasn't really used to it being that long lol like equinox and exit this earth's atmosphere but overall its very doable. Batch 2: batch 2 also took about 2 days, only energy flower and sayonara planet wars gave me some trouble. i would say that it's a fair increase in difficulty compared to batch 1 nothing too much. Batch 3: batch 3 took just under a week and i was starting to feel really challenged at this point, especially the stamina maps which made me realise how much my left hand was lacking (sometimes id be just halfway through a song and my left hand starts hurting meanwhile my right hand doesnt even feel tired at all). i would start to struggle immensely stamina wise towards the end of both sacrament of wilderness and g1ll35 but with a couple days of grind i was able to s rank them. Batch 4: the difficulty increase was so big for me that it felt more like going from batch 3 to batch 5 or 6 than to just batch 4, thats how overwhelming it felt at first. batch 4 took around a month of active play to get through and it was really quite the grind. a lot of maps at first glance felt impossible as i cannot keep up with the density both in terms of physical strength and reading ability, it was like i thought id made some progress making it to batch 3 and then batch 4 made me feel like i didnt at all, especially the very last few i had left (see below) they were so hard to get through that i started working on batch 5 coz i think i might burn out from playing the same couple songs every day. in order of ascending difficulty the most memorable ones include: - akasha and haelequins: both have burst of note spam that were too much for me to recognise pre much, i just tried to not completely fumble those sections and have high acc the rest of the song to scrape through with s rank. - moon-gate and crystal world: i remember first trying these two and absolutely getting destroyed coz i couldnt read ANYTHING the sheer consistent density throughout the entire song is unlike anything ive seen in batch 3. - 666 flags: my first exposure to handstream, took quite some time to get used to. - secret activity; akatsuki; and houkago stride: all long songs that require good stamina (my weak lefthand syndrome does not help here), basically felt like longer and more chord heavy versions of moon-gate/crystal world. - SNOW HALATION: my name says it i love this song and i was pleasantly surprised to find it in the improvement batch lmao, definitely the map i played the most i got s rank on it earlier than some maps i consider harder because of that. overall just exceedingly demanding jumpstream map a lot of parts where im just trying to hold onto the 95% for my life, the key was to stay calm and not fumble the jump trill which can be acc killer if u do. its fairly long asw so consistency n stamina r required. - heaven's fall and khionos: the commonality between these two is that towards the end (once in khionos and twice in heaven's) they both have this burst of incoherent notes that felt even worse than akasha/haelequins in terms of readability, i had to play both of them at slower speeds for a while and slowly upping it to get them. these two were some of the very last maps i had left in batch 4 that felt like they were batch 4.5+. -disconnected trance 0.8x: this map is simply CRAZY, its entirely single stream and has a lot of rolls (which i thought i was quite good at) and its star rating is fairly low asw at 3.5ish but for me it was the most difficult map in batch 4. the density is just so overwhelming and u have to maintain the ludicrous spam of notes for just under 2 minutes with NO REST SECTION, it feels like my fingers r about to fall off towards the latter half pre much especially my left hand its just immensely hard to keep up. the only easy part is the intro and outro which r just acc boosting sections ig even with them s rank was so hard to achieve and took a lot of playing at lower speeds to get there. having s ranked a couple songs in batch 5, i can easily see this being in batch 5 instead. Batch 5: i've played quite a couple songs here and got s rank on too much loli just today, it felt like a harder version of snow halation from batch 4 which makes sense since theyre both jumpstream maps and both mapped by niko. there seems to be A LOT of chord jacks in this batch asw and itll take me a while to get good at them... overall it was so nice to have a more clear goal to work towards than blindly playing random maps and i improved soooo much in the past month and a half. went from a 1-2 sr player to being able to handle most 4 sr maps now, i hope i can continue to get better through the batches! and ofc, if u see this crisper i just want to say that ur guides and improvement batches r such hidden gems for mania and theyve helped me immensely in both improving at the game and having more fun since its satisfying to get better, so thank u so so much for making them (also love live is awesome fr) :)
I'm not an osu player, but I have been doing some knockoffs on roblox (or some other game) and some tips helped out a lot. I would use this if I ever decide to hop on the OSU!Mania bus.
Really great vid overall! i love the bg music wile the documentary on how to get better also some gameplay in the bg too,its very calming and really helps for you to sink the info deep into the brain so you wont forget, at least for me
About the batches... I've been playing them pretty often, and I've grinded my way from the 4th batch to the 9th. My biggest problem is that there are sometimes a lack of songs, like in the 7th batch. There is only one map based on jacks, and when I was clearing it, my experience was absolute DOGSHIT. I didn't feel prepared at all, and I had to grind it out like crazy (it's still my most played map fyi). A few songs are also way harder than others in the same batch, like in the 9th, A Reyvateil's curse was also absolute ass, being as difficult as White Day, a 10th batch song, WHICH I CLEARED AFTER S RANKING THE 10TH DAN SPEED (I cleared both with a 96,5% one after the other, yet they're both in different batches). My experience with the LNs was the worst, since I felt like I was underprepared all of the time, like in the case with Gympie Gympe. The batches made me hate LN, though that problem is mostly gone, now that I've caught it up with the rest of my skills (cleared the 8th "dan" in both the LN phases, and underjoy's LN dans). Now, I hate inverse LNs, those stupid ass LN streams, and the use of LNs as if they are normal notes (just use normal notes you prick). Desperado Waltz 1.1x and Signal Hopping 1.1x belong in the 10th batch, and half the easier LN songs belong in the 8th. Edit: I forgot to mention that I have around the same accuracy in those two songs and Reverenced Flower, the only 10th batch LN song (DW 93%, RF 93,5%, SH 94%) Now, I still haven't cleared Blue army 1.3x (that map is also dogwater, but it's more due to the fact that both my hands are different, and I can't consistently do jumps with my right hand, despite being right-handed.) and both the LN songs mentioned before, but Eternal Drain does not feel possible lol. Other than that, these batches are great, though I frequently play songs in the batch ahead because of how unbalanced my skillsets are (I'm better at stamina based maps, and I suck at jacks).
Really good tips and advices once again, and it's nice that you linked zenith's guide cuz i don't think that gets enough attention, or maybe it's just me. really gj getting those points out there especially to newer players. Even for myself an experienced 4k player i didn't even know you can use those filters on the website too 😂. So keep it up and once again overall amazing video
Another good tip is any map past 6* is indeterminate because maps like crescent moon island boss battle is rated 5.67 when it is almost 29msd on etterna
Dude. Props to you. The amount of work you probably went through to create this video and all the websites behind it is unimaginable. People like you are the peak of the internet
stuck in 4.5 stars 4K, quitted about 5 months ago, had very irregular playstyle (play a lot, burnout, quit and then come back after some months, Oct 2018 i had 2K maps played), sometimes got good scores, and im in some leaderboards, i called that "the asian limit". Since im italian and don't have rhytm games embedded in my dna, i think this is how much i could achieve. i've been always improving myself alone, with little no help, nor im in the commuinity, i think this video will be helpful.
I warm up during the start of my sessions for 20 minutes which is good for me and I play around 20-40 songs a day I recommend a lot of these tips! :) They will help you a lot if you are new! (I started 1 month ago and I’m glad I found these!)
Huge thanks for the good tips and advice! Finding the filter options very useful in new maps since I can finally filter out 4k maps from 7k ones. Also made a guide for more stuff like scroll speed for future vids?
Bro your advice about where to look at the screen made me so bad at this game, i used to do 4 stars easily and maybe could do a 5 star, but then i trued your advice and i cant even finish a 3 star without getting a miss, i've completely forgot how to play osu mania and i might aswell quit Edit: okay so disregard everything that i said up there, it isn't the guy's fault, it was my smooth a** brain, i decided to out the combo thing way up so it doesn't bother me while im playing, but that had a side effect where i dont know where to look, oh right and also i just did a 200 pp play :D (turns out 5 star is easier than 4 star for some reason)
I know how to improve, but the only thing that sucks is that the maps I need to find, so it is the reason why I am so slow at improving, so WHAT MAPS DO I NEED TO GET IT IS SO HARD TO FIND MAPS.
i have astigmatism looking a bit up makes me dizzy so i always look just slightly above the bottom of the screen and it helps me a lot kinda sad it would make me a bit worse but i'm still gettin better
I love your improvement batches mate! I'm almost 4 digits and I can really say that this helped a lot!. Though I noticed something. The map in Batch 9 mainly "saikoro - far in the blue sky... [Etterna's 32 0.8x]6.16*" is missing.
I am planning to come back after almost 2 weeks of being off from osu!Mania (as I had to get my laptop fixed). I was wondering what should I do/play for warmups and what type of maps do you recommend for larger improvements?
you have a mistake in the batch list from crystallized to crossover it is phisically impossible to jump from that difficulty to that ive tried tried nand tried i still cant beat crossover inclube more songs inbetween crystallized and crossover that jump is too high only protogies with high talent can beat that jump
Hey, found this video was pretty accurate. But I disagree with you on some points. I probably should post a comment about that but idk I saw you online so... yeah.. I disagree especially when you talked about where to look on the track. You said we shouldn't stare at the bottom of the track because it causes too much delay, but you're kinda wrong imo. Like, I'm looking a little bit above the hitpos of my skin and it's the only way for me to get a good ratio. Imo, the place you look at is personnal, same for the scroll speed (even if I recommend between 16 and 22 when you're a total beginner). It's the same for the layout we're using, it's a total personal choice that only the player can feel comfortable with
