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Let's talk about keyboards and polling rates today. It's a huger deal on games than most people think.
INFO AND LINKS:
Keyboard spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Flash custom keyboard (QMK) to 1000hz: • [DEPRECATED] QMK Keybo... (senya didn't make the guide but someone else has here!)
Mina's WIFE FFR post: www.flashflashrevolution.com/v...
Etienne's WIFE3 video: • A Balanced Rhythm Game...
FAQ:
'What is inconsistent polling rate?'
I semi-explain it in a keyboard review here • (osu!) Hotswap Keyboar...
'Why don't you just use the keyboard scan rate website?'
Like what their website said, it does not test polling rate. It's not very accurate either depending on your keyboard. It determined my Happy Hacking Keyboard was 33.33hz when it's 125hz, I asked other HHKB owners to test as well and had the same results. So far without buying expensive equipment, Etterna gives the best estimate on keyboard polling rate.
'Is X keyboard 1000hz?'
If it's a gaming keyboard from a reputable gaming company that boasts of 1000hz in their marketing material, it most likely is. Not all gaming keyboards are great, but that's polling rate and chord splitting aside and reaches more of per-keyboard review territory. Otherwise, I don't know and you will have to test it yourself.
'But X player got X best score without 1000hz!'
Yeah, you can still do crazy things without a 1000hz keyboard, but with a better keyboard, at high levels it gives you more hit window space to work with.
CREDITS:
Senya - For taking part in this video and teaching me about polling rates, without him, I wouldn't have been able to make this video
Etienne ( / etiennesinsm ) - Without him, I would have never met Senya, he has good insight on keyboards as well
Etterna community - For caring about rhythm games and their keyboards so much and for helping out in the spreadsheet (I also think you guys might've had some help behind senya in communicating with me and allowing the spreadsheet to go public). Thank you!
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:41 - Polling rate and its effects
04:42 - Chord splitting and its effects
08:05 - Keyboard spreadsheet
09:55 - Does polling rate matter on osu?
13:54 - osu! and pull rate
14:34 - Keyswitch debounce and chatter
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@tokaku
@tokaku 3 года назад
The first 1000 people to use the link will get a free trial of Skillshare Premium Membership: skl.sh/tokaku11201 INFO AND LINKS: (if you don't read descriptions) Keyboard spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hNMXn_nkpXZIpDHZBcp95E7OweL4594_WDLCY_vTvm0/ Flash custom keyboard (QMK) to 1000hz: (TO BE ADDED) Mina's WIFE FFR post: www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?t=145215 Etienne's WIFE3 video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YQgGwCZTJp4.html Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction 01:41 - Polling rate and its effects 04:42 - Chord splitting and its effects 08:05 - Keyboard spreadsheet 09:55 - Does polling rate matter on osu? 13:54 - osu! and pull rate 14:34 - Keyswitch debounce and chatter FAQ: 'What is inconsistent polling rate?' I semi-explain it in a keyboard review here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2BoRydJWyEo.html 'Why don't you just use the keyboard scan rate website?' Like what their website said, it does not test polling rate. It's not very accurate either depending on your keyboard. It determined my Happy Hacking Keyboard was 33.33hz when it's 125hz, I asked other HHKB owners to test as well and had the same results. So far without buying expensive equipment, Etterna gives the best estimate on keyboard polling rate. 'Is X keyboard 1000hz?' If it's a gaming keyboard from a reputable gaming company that boasts of 1000hz in their marketing material, it most likely is. Not all gaming keyboards are great, but that's polling rate and chord splitting aside and reaches more of per-keyboard review territory. Otherwise, I don't know and you will have to test it yourself. 'But X player got X best score without 1000hz!' Yeah, you can still do crazy things without a 1000hz keyboard, but with a better keyboard, at high levels it gives you more hit window space to work with.
@packagedrain5266
@packagedrain5266 3 года назад
A
@lovelean7164
@lovelean7164 3 года назад
you can check usb binterval
@tokaku
@tokaku 3 года назад
@@lovelean7164 how?
@adrianluces6145
@adrianluces6145 3 года назад
1v1 robeats dark sheep normal friend me my name in Roblox edrianri no gear if I win you suck
@someasiankid6323
@someasiankid6323 3 года назад
yes
@senya6095
@senya6095 3 года назад
News flash: rhythm games are just typing with extra steps
@Mitsuhaaa
@Mitsuhaaa 3 года назад
2 days ago O_O
@jalmarikalmari
@jalmarikalmari 3 года назад
Tf 2 days ago
@SickLift90
@SickLift90 3 года назад
2 days ago what?
@bluwk4308
@bluwk4308 3 года назад
Everyone talking how he post this 2 days ago lol Me : Haha..vewy funny
@kalsten2236
@kalsten2236 3 года назад
HOW IN GODS NAME IS THIS POSSIBLE???
@Squidkun3
@Squidkun3 3 года назад
Great now people have more excuses for being bad at osu 😂😂
@VINlirious
@VINlirious 3 года назад
Now my friend can complain why they keep getting 100 instead of 300
@VileFGC
@VileFGC 3 года назад
No I'm just bad.
@mahadriparabawa4846
@mahadriparabawa4846 3 года назад
Bruh why she talk like rap
@Zynx-
@Zynx- 3 года назад
Yes lol when I play a beatmap I was like "hey I already clicked that circle, why I miss? oh god damn it"
@stolpa9211
@stolpa9211 3 года назад
im still gonna say that im bad lmao
@poppincola
@poppincola 3 года назад
looked for an excuse why my accuracy is so low, now i just realized im garbage
@yuyenbruh
@yuyenbruh 2 года назад
thats good
@charlesnixonyomega
@charlesnixonyomega 3 года назад
TLDR: high polling equals low latency for ur keyboard
@DogeGaming26
@DogeGaming26 3 года назад
TLDR: Unless you want to pull off high accuracy plays on high ODs, preference matters more then your keyboard.
@tokaku
@tokaku 3 года назад
@@DogeGaming26 I never said anything about preference though
@TheBigSad8247
@TheBigSad8247 3 года назад
I noticed some softwares can adjust polling rate for mouse and keyboard. Whole there be any reason for a person to LOWER the polling rate? The way I see it: the higher, the better since there was no noted downside.
@tokaku
@tokaku 3 года назад
@@TheBigSad8247 it's mentioned very very briefly at the end. keyswitch debounce causes keys to chatter and send more than one input. lower polling rates will stop it. so it's a bandaid solution for keyboards for longevity
@TheBigSad8247
@TheBigSad8247 3 года назад
@@tokaku Ahh. Must have missed that. Thanks.
@chipperonio
@chipperonio 3 года назад
I didn't even realized I had a 1000Hz keyboard until I watched this lol
@isopropylalcohol7523
@isopropylalcohol7523 3 года назад
​@@Solastis how can i know my keyboard's hx?
@mopthatisnotdan1273
@mopthatisnotdan1273 3 года назад
Same but since my laptop and me is shit it doesent matter T^T
@mopthatisnotdan1273
@mopthatisnotdan1273 3 года назад
@@isopropylalcohol7523 you can either use the vid or check your keybaord manual
@embedyt
@embedyt 3 года назад
same
@fxght
@fxght 3 года назад
I have razer huntsman elite wtf 1000 isn't that like the best
@kawaiipotato7513
@kawaiipotato7513 3 года назад
Me watching this on a 1000 hz keyboard: hmmmmmm, interesting
@minicompactac
@minicompactac 3 года назад
same lmao
@Kiwippy
@Kiwippy 3 года назад
basically any normal gaming keyboard
@cloroxbleach6825
@cloroxbleach6825 3 года назад
>Watching a video on a keyboard this can be taken in so many different ways
@kawaiipotato7513
@kawaiipotato7513 3 года назад
@@cloroxbleach6825 rgb has really been taken to the next level lol
@markbrown8126
@markbrown8126 3 года назад
me watching with a 4000hz corsair k100.....
@mataznuiz
@mataznuiz 3 года назад
Ah, I was always trying to explain some of these concepts to friends but I could never be this clear, the video and diagrams/images help a lot.
@rcytray
@rcytray 3 года назад
keyboard latency, polling rate, and chord splitting is interesting and all but don't even get me started on hardware and software audio latency
@zetifyy3455
@zetifyy3455 3 года назад
Lol true
@legend131000
@legend131000 3 года назад
SO FUCKING TRUEEEEEE
@ShockingRotom
@ShockingRotom 3 года назад
Ya i play on a potato laptop with hdmi cable to a potato tv (ikik a horrible idea for playing a game like osu) with a potato keyboard which is prob 125 hrtz
@Zynx-
@Zynx- 3 года назад
oh no- you're actually right
@Kuri0
@Kuri0 3 года назад
@@ShockingRotom i think laptop are 1000hz
@junberg1
@junberg1 3 года назад
I was going to say this is the reason my acc sucks at osu, but then I found out that my keyboard is 1000hz lol
@omerelhassan9133
@omerelhassan9133 3 года назад
Lol
@xuyis3922
@xuyis3922 3 года назад
I’m so counfuesed is 1000hz bad or is 125 bad what is better
@junberg1
@junberg1 3 года назад
@@xuyis3922 1000hz is better basically
@bershy8556
@bershy8556 3 года назад
mine is advertised as 1000hz but every test i've done puts it at less than 100hz lmfao
@riax3431
@riax3431 2 года назад
@@junberg1 1000hz keyboards are very common these days
@SpacedogD
@SpacedogD 3 года назад
Items to also consider: Scan rate of the keyboard. Equally as important as polling rate, introduces variability to timing of key press registering. 1000hz polling rate is not that helpful if the keyboard has only a scan rate per key of 33.3hz. Also chord splitting can occur due to a variety of reasons, one of which I've found was in relation to the way the keyboard scans for inputs, or how the keyboard prioritizes certain inputs to send out more than others in certain clusters.
@としゆきどま
@としゆきどま 3 года назад
This is seriously interesting for an accuracy player. I like this. Looks at IIDX timing window... 🙄 I just found out that my Vortex Cypher is 1000hz. That's why I suck.
@hockypockies780
@hockypockies780 3 года назад
i care about my accuracy too, it's hard for me to keep it above 92% acc rn but im getting better
@emmyciyat9904
@emmyciyat9904 2 года назад
@@hockypockies780 I've got 95 acc, but I'm a 7 digit with like 200 pp who is an accuracy masochist
@nimphilia
@nimphilia 2 года назад
any play (4* or less) less than 95% acc or is not an S is embarassing for me
@shortscouture1
@shortscouture1 2 года назад
honestly people being able to play iidx with heavy omron switches with harsh judgement is so impressive
@katiserie
@katiserie 2 года назад
@@emmyciyat9904 6 digit, 528 pp, they are an endangered species
@stephen_ff5454
@stephen_ff5454 3 года назад
in short: the low quality your keyboard is the bigger you skill cooldown is.
@jaydenholland7540
@jaydenholland7540 3 года назад
Hey keep up the good work. This video is every well edited
@otakudweeb1840
@otakudweeb1840 3 года назад
Why do I feel I learned more here than a week's worth of a math lesson in school
@bcball
@bcball 3 года назад
awesome video! A lot of effort and work went into this and it's a very interesting topic.
@letor9168
@letor9168 3 года назад
Nice video , but you forget to mention that a low pulling rate can also affect your aim , imagine your cursor being on the note but the 8ms~ delay of the keyboard will be enough to make your cursor out of sync with your tapping and make you miss on jump or space stream. This issue is pretty much only applicable to osu standard .
@ameserich
@ameserich 2 года назад
This is so wrong... most gaming keyboard with 1000hz polling rate would actually take 24+ms for a key press to register, its due to the controller chip inside the keyboard... So if you have an 8k polling rate keyboard, congrats your keyboard can now do 23.125ms lol... now how about we add key press pre-travel, it will most likely take 64+ms Its the same thing with mouse, mouse registers like 8-12ms or maybe even more, but the difference is that mouse is a motion based controller so the higher polling rate is always better
@letor9168
@letor9168 2 года назад
@@ameserich , I love this type of response, you didnt even read what i said, im also pretty sure you didnt even watched the video, im not talking about 8khz or 933925khz, those 8ms i was talking about are the maximum delay caused by the interval of the pulling rate at 125hz (mentioned everywhere in the video). 125hz is 0ms at best and 8ms at the slowest and for 1000hz its 0ms at best and 1ms at the slowest, + every other input lag caused by the the system and peripheral. And key pre-travel is not even software ralated. 1khz+ is a gimmick
@ameserich
@ameserich 2 года назад
@@letor9168 i know... what im simply telling you is that you press the key based on what you see or what you wanna do, and all of that takes a long time to register. You most likely will not be able to tell the difference between 125hz-1000hz polling rate. 250hz would be great, a 500hz would be overkill even if it is chord split... Somehow youtubers find ways to push wrong information (im not mad just sus)
@letor9168
@letor9168 2 года назад
@@ameserich "you most likely won't tell the difference between 125 and 1000hz", that sounds like someone who never played OD10 or even just played osu, the timing window of OD10 is 38ms so those 8 ms of interval is massive (more than 1/5 of the timing window), what you are saying is true for almost every game EXCEPT rythme game I've played osu on a laptop keyboard (mine was 125hz) for 6 months and let me tell you I won't ever go back to a keyboard with less than 250hz for anything over OD9 or 6-7*
@RequiemOfSolo
@RequiemOfSolo Год назад
@@ameserich "I have grandpa reaction times so I'm gonna gaslight everyone else into thinking it's normal to not notice small differences"
@aetern834
@aetern834 3 года назад
i was scared after seeing this but apparently after a lot of searching (actually the first result when i googled it) my Razer Huntsman has a polling rate of 1000Hz
@jianshen2223
@jianshen2223 2 года назад
I dont even play rythm games, but I like your approach to gaming. As good content as top Tech content producers like Optimum or even Linus Tech Tips, at least in terms of weeding out the marketing fluff and getting to the objective specs that really matter
@tokaku
@tokaku 2 года назад
aw, thank you!
@Cloudax_
@Cloudax_ 3 года назад
@tokaku This is one of your best videos yet. I've been a long-time subscriber and love how the quality of your content has improved.
@sid6645
@sid6645 3 года назад
Holy shit what a well made video. Great job on those succulent visuals!
@Phippe
@Phippe 3 года назад
13:56 This is getting better in osu!lazer btw, input and frame rate are handled separately there.
@bokunorainbow58
@bokunorainbow58 3 года назад
Thank god i keep my laptop limited to 60 so it doesn't explode. Always thought it's keyboard cause the timing window pattern, until i saw this video and raised the fps. Guess just another reason to swap to lazer.
@shin-jo2801
@shin-jo2801 3 года назад
Me : *Don't worry, your keyboard is good enough my lovely 2010 laptop*
@Shrocket
@Shrocket 3 года назад
Gotta love learning new things, thanks for the info! Good vid 👍
@shzhe02
@shzhe02 3 года назад
brilliant lecture, professor tokaku
@coluzea
@coluzea 3 года назад
interesting, i'm not observing the perfectly spaced lines on 75bpm, 100bpm, or 125bpm on my gk68x (not optical version) is it possible the normal version has the same inconsistency as the optical version? i would consider that more likely than this being a 1000hz keyboard as i highly doubt that. i'll try to look into this more later, as the epomaker staff are always looking for potential ways to make their products more appealing to gamers and such, so if i find anything i'd like to bring it to them for a potential fix in future releases. edit: according to searching through their discord server the non optical versions of their recent releases might actually be 1000hz. will still look into this further
@banikawa4240
@banikawa4240 3 года назад
Me watching this with my 4000hz polling rate keyboard: I'm 4 parallel universes ahead of you.
@jogaming55555
@jogaming55555 2 года назад
Imagine wasting money on 4000hz polling rate
@asrieldremmurr3538
@asrieldremmurr3538 2 года назад
My reading this comment with my 8000hz polling rate keyboard I'm 8 parallel universes ahead of you
@Valgyan
@Valgyan 3 года назад
Very insightful thank you
@thedud3
@thedud3 3 года назад
Quality video, learned a lot, thanks
@ctgaming1198
@ctgaming1198 3 года назад
Omg......... how did I actually get featured in this video.... Thank you so much. :DDDD
@infinitewy
@infinitewy 3 года назад
i was watching another tokaku vid when this uploaded lol
@farrele9629
@farrele9629 3 года назад
Same lmao
@yikmengtan5007
@yikmengtan5007 3 года назад
i have been playing dj max a while and i noticed a significant improvement on accuracy from wireless to wired keyboard. though my wireless keyboard is some cheap 20 ringgit keyboard as opposed to the mechanical wired keyboard which i have just bought, so taking the polling rate into consideration i am beginning to doubt if wireless and non wireless actually was actually the case alone or with the polling rate too...
@kgbfromwish
@kgbfromwish Месяц назад
now i understand why the hit error bar does breakdance when i use my 2008 acer membrane keyboard
@jagmeemees
@jagmeemees 3 года назад
If you have a qmk custom, it's a good idea to add these three lines into your config.h file. #define FORCE_NKRO #define USB_POLLING_INTERVAL_MS 1 #define QMK_KEYS_PER_SCAN 8 Doing this will not get rid of chord splitting, but it will noticeably improve your polling rate and allow more keys to be hit per scan.
@expcake
@expcake 3 года назад
thank you for posting this!
@derps
@derps 3 года назад
some missing information on the keyboard spreadsheet: leopold fc750r using ps/2 is 1000hz
@MichaelEhrmantraut12
@MichaelEhrmantraut12 3 года назад
Thanks, now I know what to look for when I buy a new keyboard!
@kitkat6703
@kitkat6703 3 года назад
i wonder how those osu keypads that are manufactured by that one guy do in their polling rate
@tokaku
@tokaku 3 года назад
1000hz. Arduino uses a chip that polls that quickly. Most custom keyboard PCBs have the same chip but are flashed to 125hz on default
@qyrene5196
@qyrene5196 3 года назад
if my computer sucks, can it be used as a vacuum?
@L-udo
@L-udo 3 года назад
Depends on how much it sucks?
@furkoq
@furkoq 3 года назад
@@L-udo not even 1 FPS in 2015 games
@replicant169
@replicant169 3 года назад
funny
@KPoWasTaken
@KPoWasTaken 3 года назад
@@furkoq no he means how well it sucks things up
@furkoq
@furkoq 3 года назад
@@KPoWasTaken well, it's 59 suck per second then
@memestopicxd7649
@memestopicxd7649 4 месяца назад
Yup, that explains it. My expensive keyboard broke, so temporarily I started using a keypad. But I noticed that my consistency has completely vanished. Good thing I have a new one on the way
@Seppevh
@Seppevh 3 года назад
1:43 for USB its the host that does the polling, so its the pc thats asking the kb/mouse what it has done every period
@flysalot
@flysalot 2 года назад
1:00 what beatmap is this? i really need to know
@AkaObbies
@AkaObbies 3 года назад
okay time to enable my polling rate forcer so i can make sure my keyboard is at 1000hz brrr
@comkioxd
@comkioxd 3 года назад
tokaku your mic sounds amazing now but you should put some low end on it with an eq so it sounds even better!
@cultureddoggo5606
@cultureddoggo5606 2 года назад
you know i was so used to 125hz membrane keyboard that the moment i was gonna buy a mechanical keyboard which i never did in my life, made me realized how i'm so used to it to a point somebody in the internet pointed out to me that the hit errors that look oddly placed is just my pooling rate being small, it still didn't stop me from getting below 110UR tho and even higher acc than my friends who had been using mechanical. never felt so damn good over something so small
@James-li5of
@James-li5of 3 года назад
tutorial to flash custom boards to 1000hz when
@zetifyy3455
@zetifyy3455 3 года назад
You should review the Leopoldo FC750r pretty sure it’s 100hz and the quality is really good especially the keycaps edit: I have the FC750r now and is definitely is 1000hz and definitely recommend for Osu
@zetifyy3455
@zetifyy3455 3 года назад
@@YUEjyut nah it’s def 1k hertz I don’t have the spacing issue in the hit error chart trust I have a gk61 and it’s 125hz and the charts and hit reg are completely different
@zetifyy3455
@zetifyy3455 3 года назад
@@YUEjyut you got the wrong leopold
@zetifyy3455
@zetifyy3455 3 года назад
@@YUEjyut 😂
@cloudytimes
@cloudytimes 3 года назад
This is such a good video
@L-udo
@L-udo 3 года назад
Its been literally years and iv allways wondered what OD actually was.. thank you.. you have educated me!
@azael2078
@azael2078 3 года назад
what.. how..
@L-udo
@L-udo 3 года назад
@@azael2078 i honestly never spent the 5 seconds of my day to go look it up on google lol.
@azael2078
@azael2078 3 года назад
@@L-udo its literally a in game feature its so obvious it tells you in game
@L-udo
@L-udo 3 года назад
@@azael2078 i literally. Never looked lol i just played the game lol
@harrietjameson
@harrietjameson 2 года назад
you can increase qmk polling rate easily, just look it up for an easy tutorial (provided you already know how to flash a keyboard). All you need to do is make a new config file and define the delay or whatever as 1ms and keys per scan as 12 (fixes chord splitting)
@KudosK42
@KudosK42 3 года назад
Sorry but, I can't change my keyboard, its stuck in my laptop.
@revslow5461
@revslow5461 3 года назад
Buy a keyboard
@xxcrono
@xxcrono Год назад
This is a great video
@randalljue
@randalljue 3 года назад
Awesome video. Very helpful and informative. I don't play rhythm games but do test keyboards, and this has been helpful in thinking about how I should test keebs and peripherals in the future.
@KalyuGD727
@KalyuGD727 2 года назад
12:06 GD community is proud 🗿
@delvilcrusher
@delvilcrusher 3 года назад
I just realize my keyboard has a pulling rate of 1000
@Tommo_
@Tommo_ 2 года назад
Me and my friend are writing up a doc on everything that contributes to latency in osu, and keyboard polling + scan rate are big factors to overall latency, and especially constancy.
@mewumewu2611
@mewumewu2611 3 года назад
great explanation
@MMenyan
@MMenyan 3 года назад
id like to make the nitpick that dthr gives od11.1 (but it's still ar 11, bc dt affects od and ar at a slightly different rate for some reason. mb someone arbitrarily thought ar 11.1 was too harsh and capped it at 11 for dt like od and ar is capped at 10 for hr, but never did the same for the od?)
@moharexx3128
@moharexx3128 3 года назад
me already knowing that my keyboard is 1000hz and why that matters: ah yes i see now
@combocarti
@combocarti 3 года назад
That mania circle skin looks so clean
@nwimpney
@nwimpney 2 года назад
The problems with debouncing are often due to how the debounce is done in the firmware, and that it can add a lot of delay in some cases. It can also cause chord splitting, if it's done incorrectly. AFAIK, the default debounce method in QMK is to delay for the debounce time before sending the keystroke, which will cause everything to be delayed a fixed amount. it'll still have the same variance due to polling, but with an additional fixed delay on top. For example, a 10ms debounce time could make your response time vary between 10-18ms (0-8 due to usb polling+10 debounce delay) Other methods (which I believe are options in QMK) use a single debounce timer, but send immediately on the first keystroke. They'll send the first keypress in 0-8ms, then wait the debounce time, before reading and sending the other keys. So, using the 10ms debounce as an example, you'll chord split the first keystroke in 0-8, and the others in 10-18. Ideally, it's implemented with a separate debounce counter for every key. when the key is pressed it gets added to the next packet, and its own debounce counter is started. Additional changes (like chatter) on that key will be ignored for the debounce period, but other keys can be pressed, and added to the same packet, if they fall within the same polling interval. matrix scanning can also be an issue. If the matrix is scanned too slowly, or with badly written logic, it can be delayed or chord split as well. Even with 1000Hz polling, the other things matter. You can have 1000Hz, with a stupid debounce, and you won't see the banding in your timing, everything will simply be delayed a fixed amount, before landing in those 1Hz buckets. For example, you may always be delayed 10-11ms, which doesn't hurt scoring as much as having a large variance, but it's still extra delay you have to compensate for. (You can compensate for fixed delay, but not variance) I wrote my own firmware, so I know my keyboard does these things well, but it would actually be pretty hard to test without some specialized equipment to sniff USB in realtime.
@Kaminadorr
@Kaminadorr 6 месяцев назад
very informative, couple of things to thing about here. do you happen to have discord or somewhere I could run some questions about the debounce times by you?
@bluwk4308
@bluwk4308 3 года назад
Me : **comment this** Early people : **Trying to think something funny so they get pinned or noticed**
@burnchicken5734
@burnchicken5734 3 года назад
It didnt work
@bluwk4308
@bluwk4308 3 года назад
@@burnchicken5734 k
@gabrielericdelacruz9025
@gabrielericdelacruz9025 3 года назад
u r my fav osu gamer
@Lott.Z
@Lott.Z 9 месяцев назад
I don't know who you are or what this channel is but I learned a lot. Thanks Edit: I was just looking up info about keyboard polling
@fjell2001
@fjell2001 3 года назад
Keep checking and waiting for flashing qmk to 1000hz video to be added
@h3fg
@h3fg 2 года назад
thanks for letting me know
@droid1008
@droid1008 3 года назад
You can also check your keyboard's polling rate in osu!lazer if you turn on the FPS counter also the built in opentabletdriver is pretty cool
@gabrielcc.
@gabrielcc. 3 года назад
new video yay
@Pipiezi
@Pipiezi 3 года назад
Just got a new keyboard which really looked like the 75hz one you showed, mine is 1000hz luckily. Was scared for a sec there 😅
@lklash81
@lklash81 3 года назад
Something you could do is to set your offset wizard to like 10 or somewhere around that so itll account for the slightly later response
@boneless70
@boneless70 Год назад
I was searching dor so long why my 300s in the acc bar were always jumping around altough i hit the notes consistently perfect. Finally the solution randomly shows up in my recommend, thanks youtube! (And tokaku of course)
@sadosiris9423
@sadosiris9423 3 года назад
Pog Tokaku is making money
@wukosu
@wukosu 2 года назад
bro i was freaking out because online it said my keyboard was 1000hz but ingame i saw the evenly spaced lines on the hit-error bar and i thought my keyboard was damaged or something but the entire problem was that the game was on power saving fps (120).
@Q2MITSU
@Q2MITSU 3 года назад
fantastic thank you
@AnfoFlash
@AnfoFlash 3 года назад
ah shit, I just made my own custom keyboard when I found out about this polling rate and chord split issue
@darkflightdreamer1698
@darkflightdreamer1698 3 года назад
Very educational
@hiperion_1416
@hiperion_1416 3 года назад
12:07 pog guitar Hero styles
@WatamelonUberSheep
@WatamelonUberSheep 3 года назад
I think this info is good for those who play fighting games such as brawlhalla, since I realized how my custom keyboard is worse than my laptop keyboard when it comes to inputing combos. I love my niu mini, but I also hate losing. Now I'm still thinking wether or not to sell my niu mini for a 1000hz keyboard and some keycaps 😢
@tomsterbg8130
@tomsterbg8130 2 года назад
I changed my offset to -4 and it made a huge difference in chord-heavy maps
@fogsaturate
@fogsaturate 3 года назад
this would be very helpful if you covered this topic on clone hero. i had a shitty hyperx keyboard that probably had a polling rate of 100-250 because i couldn’t hit shit on clone hero. i then got a corsair which can go up to 1000ms and i was godly on it. there are other games too ya know
@TheSweToZe
@TheSweToZe Год назад
Same thing applies bro, it's pretty well explained in this video for any rhythm game. Also idk if they're gonna make a separate vid for CH since well, the vast majority uses the guitars, which also have poll rate, for example xplorer has alot lower than a wiitar, hence it's way easier to hit quad/quint zigs on it for example or comparing a wiitar with an arduino guitar (1000hz), which is Another step up which helps with high nps. Hope this helps, though i'm a year late..
@Zyphore727
@Zyphore727 3 года назад
15:26 'Remember to wear a vest' :wheeze:
@glorb7896
@glorb7896 3 года назад
I'm waiting for the "Flash custom keyboard (QMK) to 1000hz" video. I have no knowledge of 1000hz keyboard flashing but plan to build a custom in the near future.
@IvyKloom
@IvyKloom 2 года назад
I completely forgot about the polling rate and had no clue of what my keyboard frequency is, after watching this and googled it up, I found out that my keyboard is a 1000hz polling rate .w.
@keimarch6235
@keimarch6235 3 года назад
Skillshare is literally all youtubers sponsor now (my opinion)
@Male_Parent
@Male_Parent 2 года назад
Uh yeah mine is a 125 hz keyboard. Getting a new keyboard for Christmas but I'll keep playing with what I have since it hasn't mattered too much for improving in OSU Mania, (mainly because chord splitting would be a bigger issue but thankfully I don't have that). I'm thinking about getting either a Wooting 60HE or a Corsair K65. Both seem pretty solid but I'm personally leaning towards the Wooting 60HE. The only thing that sucks is that it's $45 more, but will likely last longer. Anything at this point would an upgrade to my 6 year old membrane keyboard.
@PotatoToon
@PotatoToon 3 года назад
I use steelseries materials and in the software engine my keyboard was already at 1000 polling rate without even knowing what it was, pretty neat.
@gothblox
@gothblox 3 года назад
I just learned I had a 1000hz keyboard thanks to this video lmao. Thanks!
@playerthefirst4912
@playerthefirst4912 3 года назад
Ettiene is a fricking beast
@Merc_1
@Merc_1 3 года назад
I never knew about polling rates and i just realized that this is the reason i cant press 4 keys on my second row at the same time
@LongNguyen-dh3bm
@LongNguyen-dh3bm 3 года назад
Nope that's ghosting, which is dependent on the keyboard matrix
@Merc_1
@Merc_1 3 года назад
@@LongNguyen-dh3bm oh ok
@jxed5610
@jxed5610 3 года назад
Thumbnail: Your Keyboard Probably Sucks Me with a membrane: You're DAMN right
@birb_ie
@birb_ie 3 года назад
my old keyboard had a tendency to do chord splitting and it was annoying as hell. i thought i was bad at pressing at the same time for over a year because of it it also had a lot of recoil, where if i hit a lot of keys (lets say a simple jump trill) itll continue for another half to full second
@FoxProto
@FoxProto 3 года назад
holy shit ct
@hardwork_x8903
@hardwork_x8903 3 года назад
Me: Searched for Polling rate Tokaku: Ik what are u thinking :>
@vaipereq
@vaipereq 3 года назад
I got a opto-mechanical hunstman razer keyboard and apparently it has 1000 hz here are the specs: Razer™ Opto-Mechanical Switch with 45 G actuation force 100 million keystroke lifespan Chroma backlighting with 16.8 million customizable color options Hybrid onboard storage - up to 5 profiles Razer Synapse 3 enabled Fully programmable keys with on-the-fly macro recording 10 key roll-over with anti-ghosting Gaming mode option Braided Fiber Cable 1000 Hz Ultrapolling Aluminum matte top plate
@shizur_
@shizur_ 3 года назад
Tokaku: Talks about Polling Rate Me: Laughing with my Corsair k100
@zetifyy3455
@zetifyy3455 3 года назад
it definitely does
@andyhou9951
@andyhou9951 3 года назад
You can check your keyboard polling rate through usbview
@incinerate6130
@incinerate6130 3 года назад
In the config option documentary on the qmk webside i could find commands to change the polling rate and an option to set the amount of chords that can be send per key. Did anyone test if that fixes the issue? In the video you stated that qmk always have 125hz and chord splitting. I would like to build my first custom soon and this concerns me :D
@davidhusicka8440
@davidhusicka8440 3 года назад
osu!lazer polls at 1000 Hz and I can't wait for it to replace stable!
@ceoofsadness7015
@ceoofsadness7015 3 года назад
My red switch's PCB just died a few days ago, stuck here with a 96 milisecond 10 hz polling rate membrane. God fucking help me
@NiklasMS
@NiklasMS 3 года назад
very good video :)
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