How To Enjoy Starfield 

And the music is banger

Well, i wouldn’t say those last two, but Starfield is criminally underrated and overhated. I have a feeling it’ll be one of those games that 10 years later, people will be like “perhaps i treated you too harshly” and it’ll have a massive fanbase and some people say it’s their favorite game from Bethesda.

I put in about 300 hours and even ran through the story/campaign three times via NG+ and the factions once each. I'd say enjoy it, build a ship or modify an existing one. Get to know the Constellation comrades and listen to their stories, court one of the four main Constellation people like Sarah or Andreja (or the dudes if that's your preference). The game has fun missions in my opinion and fun gameplay (upgrade your jet pack). It's not an "endgame RPG" though even if that was their intention. It's pretty shallow in all other aspects; apartments are poor, outposts don't do that much, and space exploration is a joke, just a bunch of uninhabited planets. There's fun to be had in this game, but mostly in the missions, which are like 90% of it and the most rewarding aspect of the game.

​​​@@tarheelpro87I've been seeing that recently with Fallout 4. It had a lot of outspoken haters that popped up in every comments section but now all a sudden "it was the last great Bethesda game". Personally , I thought FO4's story, characters and, companion system were crap when I bought it at launch but I enjoyed it for the atmosphere, the settlement building, combat and roaming around. Never once did I enjoy it as much as Fallout 3 but it is good at what it does. I dunno if this will happen with Starfield though, we will see.

It is not prrfect but somehow i enjoy it. I like gameplay, its so relaxing and i feel comfortable while playing Starfield. Im not force to do enything. I do my stuff whenever i want. I played better games with epic stories and characters but for some reason i love play Starfield. Its my kind of game. It fits perfectly to my preferences.

@@mioszsypniewski8539 i love it. Not love it like other masterpieces like Skyrim, Fallout New Vegas and others. But it doesn’t get enough credit and gets hate for the most absurd things, and when people get what they want from it, they’re still mad. Personally, i liked the story too. I think it’s just too complicated for people who don’t want to think abstractly or philosophically. And you can’t tell me the mystery behind the artifacts and the Starborn doesn’t keep you on edge.

it was def my GOTY of 2023

@@haroldallaberg6359 It is def game of the decade to me.

same @@caiooca5793

I’m glad someone else liked it. I wasnt expecting much from starfield, but bethesda improved over their previous games quite a bit in various ways. I just wish others saw it the same.

Yeah! The game is fantastic, plays differently than bethesdas other games but in a good way for a space game. I have 100 hours and haven't even finished all the main faction quests yet.

Not just this, this is a heavy detailed solo RPG running only on local machine. The others games like Star Citizen are online games, the persistence of objects and level of detail is/can be managed by the servers. That's the biggest difference.

Give it a few years and I suspect they’ll have PCs good enough that a mod or creation could remove them.

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

I’ve got well over 1,000 hours in, and I STILL discover new stuff constantly! This game is absolutely excellent and I am enjoying the heck out of it!

700 hrs in, I can definitely approve this

Yeah, I would love some sort of log of the things that were fully scanned sorted by system/planet/moon.

@@tunin6844 I think its latest update address that

Fast Travel to Unknown is AWESOME. I felt a bit of guilt when I first installed it, but that quickly faded!

Then you should also try Starvival mod, and SKK Fast Start.

Are there mods to make the storywriting decent?

​@@jharju2352I've been waiting for that mod for FO4 since launch...

I also had problems with my save games 3 times, which forced me to go back to using an old save game. I think the patches have already resolved some of the problems in buggy missions. A very important warning! Be very careful with mods that change game scripts! I used one of these mods and I think it was responsible for one of the bugs I had in one of my save games. Until the Creation Kit for this game came out, modders were making mods that changed scripts without really knowing the consequences this would have on the missions and functioning of the game. There are people out there who complain about Bethesda for bugs in the game that were actually the result of mods that were not completely safe to use.

Does the modding community care about Starfield? From what I can see, most people have moved on and do not have a desire to return.

By negatively comparing it to Fallout 4, you have told me all I need to know.

Roleplaying is more than just making the story up in your head. Especially if the asking price is 70 bucks. I can just start up Courier Simulator and imagine I deliver highly critical goods through asteroid fields and epic space battles. I can literally close my eyes and imagine I am the admiral of a space fleet fighting against an alien invasion. Roleplaying needs a world that facilitates it, my characters choices should affect the world and how the world reacts to them. When the level 10 party rocks up to a bandit camp, the bandits should beg for their lifes. If you know, the empire is going to attack a system and you have to make the jump now to prevent the attack. When you then decide to smuggle some death sticks first and then jump, you don't get to complain that the system is now under imperial control. If I help the Boomers they will assist my faction at the battle of Hoover Dam. If I ask the NCR to bring order to Primm, the citizens will complain about the taxes. If I chose a powder ganger the NCR will dislike me for it. If I kill a quest giver, they are dead and I won't have access to that quest. Then there is the crowd, that also says roleplaying to them is playing one specific role the game permits. That's how a lot of JRPGs work. But still the actions of the player character have in-world consequences. Actions and consequences are at the core of roleplay, not whatever the player can make in their head.

@@ayumikuro3768 You're discounting Bethesda's RPG style simply because you don't like it. All their RPGs demand the player to give the PC a motivation in their head. Skyrim, FO4, and Starfield aren't Mass Effect. Nothing in these games explicitly give the PC nuanced motivations other than what's necessary to drive the plot forward. No writer or group of writers could ever cover the myriad of motivations every person booting up the game could come up with. In this sense, Bethesda RPGs are more like single player DnD in computer form. They're a sandbox allowing you to take the road left towards Falkreath instead of Riverwood for whatever motivation you the player comes up with. These come at a cost. Bethesda games lose out the more hand crafted narrative aspect of gaming. They can't control the direction the player goes. In New Vegas, the game heavily incentivizes you to take the road towards Primm, NoVac, NV, etc. Technically you can take the deadly road to NV but the narrative suffers. And NV does have a narrative. It isn't an open world like Skyrim, FO4, or Starfield. There is nothing to do outside the context of the big fight at Hoover Dam. The game gives no incentive to help the Boomers outside of securing their support in the battle. You could make the case Bethesda games don't give much incentive outside the scope of the main story but that's at least the point of the game. NV doesn't go on virtually forever. It does have an ending. Skyrim, FO4, and Starfield have no ending outside of retiring your character when they did everything they sought out to do.

800 hours? That’s sad to hear

@@mrmotchmaster No, I dislike it because there is no style left. I dislike it, because Bethesda used to do better (and a lot of other studios as well). I dislike it, because I basically pay them for access to a pile of sand. Just so I can pay modders to give me the tools to build an actually sand castle. And because there is only so much facelifting possible for Morrowind. I dislike them, because they normalized quest being nothing more than Get X for Y from Z. Instead of get X for Y, so Y can achieve Z. Because the later can't be achieved by just rolling on a table, apparently. No, I don't mind making up my own character, what I don't like is that they aren't "sandbox RPGs" and definitely not "DnD for PC". They are just a sandbox, with some animal feces in it. Buckets, shovels, toy excavators or water are not provided. Maybe I didn't get my point across: They are not supposed to write a character for me, they are supposed to make a game I can play multiple characters in. You and I seem to play DnD quite differently, granted I am mostly behind the DM screen. DnD is collaborative storytelling, not the DM putting up with whatever random shit players come up with. It's about actions and consequences: Let's assume a party of level 1 players. The party sits in a tavern in a small village. A random guy comes up and tells them how it's a shame that there is no longer any mead with juniper berries. And how as a child the palisades protecting the village seemed so secure. He asks if the party wants to help track down the shipment of mead. If the players decide to leave the village with him, after they exit the palisade gate, he will tell them to search in roughly this direction. He has some very important business to attend to he just remembered. If the players leave the town, they will stumble upon a bandit camp and learn they are getting ready to attack in 3 days. Players have their own motivations, they don't need to warn the village about a bandit attack. They can just run around in a forest for 5 days. They can do radiant quests I literally rolled randomly on tables for days. But the bandit raid happened in their absence, so the mayor asks, if they could free the hostages. The party decides to travel to the big city for a week. When they return two weeks later, nobody in the village wants to talk with them. They now pay tribute to their new mayor, the bandit chief. Actions lead to consequences. That's still a shitty story though, there was no reason to ever care for the players, was there? It's just a generic village, with some generic NPCs, right? Almost as, if there is more to it than just what the players make up in their head. Let's try something different: After marching three days through rain and mud, the party reaches a small village. After some convincing Erwin, the guardsman, opens the palisade gate and the party enters the small village. They have no inn, but the mayor offers some of his living/dining room so the party can rest and dry their gear. If they decide to stay and visit the small tavern, Trudy, the barkeep, asks the party, if they have seen a small cart with the wine she's expecting. If the party offers to help, she promises a nice free meal. She also asked the local hunter, Brunn, for help. The party can go with Brunn, without him or just don't care and travel on. If they travel on or without him, they stumble over the bandit camp. If they travel with Brunn, he will tell them some tips for survival in the wilderness and they will find the bandit camp. The players can still do whatever they want, but there is something to engage with. Now sure, the dragon or bandit attack never happen in either Riverwood or Goodsprings without player participation. In Skyrim, because Alduin never wanted to attack and you first need to explore a ruin to pick up a stone that will never be relevant again, so another dragon can attack another town. Unless you remove that stone from that ruin, dragons will never attack in Skyrim. In Fallout NV, because actually no good reason. Besides an actual story hook, where your character can, talk to all involved parties and: -Shoot Ringo -Leave the town and not care -Join the bandits -Help the town/Ringo in various means depending on their skills according to their characters motivation. Or maybe it's just because they aren't DnD and there is no guarantee, that the player actually recognized the hook. Skyrim and Fallout 4 both have narrative endings. You can keep playing afterwards, but the story is done. Even all the faction/guild quests have "endings". Well, they end, you are faction/guild leader. Faction/Guild has no further motivation, but you can do radiant quests (yaaaaay). And the "vastness" is exactly the reason why Bethesda games are as deep as a puddle. Exactly because their scope is to wide. You simply can't flesh out a game about the legendary Dragonslayer, the Archmage, the Thieves Guildmaster, the leader of the Companions and so forth. Well, with enough time and money it is possible. Sometimes I wonder if I own the same Skyrim and Fallout 4 copy. If your Fallout 4 doesn't have an pre-war sequence, about your characters spouse and child. If the entire game isn't just a quest to find your son. I wonder if your Skyrim copy, doesn't have a Dolphin talking about how the Thalmor are behind the Return of Dragons. That there is no possible way, for the player character in front of her, to proof that they are dragonborn other than to walk through half of Skyrim to one specific burial site, were a dragon happens to be resurrected. To then kill it and absorb it's soul. Not to mention how that Dolphin stole the Horn of Jurgen Windcaller, which requires the Thu'um to get to. And to be fair, the Thu'um had nothing to do with being a Dragonborn before Skyrim, so maybe that's why the Dolphin is confused.

@@ExpertContrarian Really, how so? For me 800 hours is actually low. I've played Oblivion, FO3, New Vegas, Skyrim and FO4 all well over 1500-2000 hours each and have 3500 hours logged in the Skyrim Creation Kit building Helgen Reborn back in the day. I fail to see how someone else's enjoyment of a game is in any way "sad to hear" for anyone. For example , I don't care for games with a forced 3rd person perspective, or ones like Baldur's Gate 3 where the point of view is like 40 feet above your character. I prefer first person view where it reasonably feels like I'm seeing things through my characters own eyes. However, I don't feel that it's "sad to hear" of anyone who loves those type of experiences and plays a ton of hours on them. Each to their own, and I'm happy that those people have gotten a lot of enjoyment and entertainment from them, they're simply not for me.

It's all procedurally generated and perhaps its a memory issue? It can't hold so much data at once. In these games the map must remember all the little objects you left on the ground and the positions of the objects. At some point you will run out of memory. Honestly this idea of circumnavigating an empty world is not my idea of fun. This is a space game not a medieval fantasy game. You should be hopping from planet to planet like you see in the star wars movies not trying to see everything on the surface of a single planet. That is ridiculous. I don't think anyone playing this game is going to do this. It's more a case of proving they CAN do it than a NEED for the ability to do it being essential. Memory is limited man. It's a RPG not a space simulator.

​​@@UToobUsername01Space simulators are notorious for having nothing but boring empty planets. This is an rpg and as such should have less planets but they should be filled with interesting things on them then if we follow your logic.

@@j85grim4 Less planets with the same amount of content is worse than having more planets with the same amount of content. Play Daggerfall. It was a massive game with lots of empty space but it had a lot of content in the space where it was supposed to. IE large cities where population is high with rural remote areas mostly empty. This was done for realism reasons so travel between each town or city felt risky. The wilderness is isolated just like space which is vast. Once in a while you'll find a cabin in the woods or witches coven and this wood give you safe spot to rest. There are countries like Australia that feel like Daggerfall map. IE nobody lives in the middle of australia because it's just dry desert area. Most of the population is in the cities near the coastal part of the continent. That sense of realism where you won't see any people in the remote parts makes sense fo Daggerfall and Starfield. Unlike you newer ES fans I was playing ES back before it went to tiny maps with more detailed areas. So I guess I am just used to this empty space thing. In reality guys: if a planet has no breathable atmosphere nobody is going to want to actually live there. Just like nobody would want to live in the middle of the desert. So yeah STFU. You can't have your cake and eat it: you want to feel immersed and be in a space game, but get angry that space is huge with nothing in it. That is just how people live: they don't seek out places with extreme environments where nothing can grow as their preferred hangout. If Starfield went with a more Star Wars approach (science fantasy) then maybe it would have been more appealing to more people. But they went with a more realistic approach where space is huge, there is a lot of isolation and you feel tiny. Think 'Aliens' more than 'Star Wars'. Moons are going to be boring because moons are boring. Stop going out of your way to explore the boring places with no atmosphere. That would be like choosing to live in the desert and getting angry that you can't find people to trade with. Think of it this way: earth as a planet is just mostly water. Humans feel comfortable on land. Thus if you wanted to find people and cities you would ignore water. However let us say you hear rumor of treasure on an remote island. You can go there by submarine, fly there, or go by boat. It doesn't matter that nobody lives there. You are going there for adventure to see place that not many people will want to venture. That is what Starfield gives you. The sense that space is mostly nothingness but there is also the chance to stumble on treasure or find stuff out there isolated from society. Moons are just the places to go mining, planets with life on them are hunting grounds to extract resrouces from animal and plants, and orbital base stations are interesting dungeons where you might find abandoned factories with loot. You just got to look at things from the perspective of science fiction not fantasy. They choose Sci-fi not sci-fantasy and that pissed people off. When I think of Science Fiction I think Halo, Aliens, Starship Troopers, Star Gate. When I think of Fantasy I think of StarWars, Final Fantasy and Phantasy Star. (ie magick is real, mystical beings exist, and you don't understand much of the world) In SF you have psi abilities so that is a type of magick, but the overall genre is still Sci-Fi. If you go with Sci-Fi you go with realism. IE space is an unsafe hostile environment like living alone in the middle of Australia and you could die and nobody would be able to find your body because it is too big an area to search, so majority live near rivers and coastal area, just as most people live on planets with breathable atmosphere, rather planets with extreme environments. Like Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall, it was done as a realism thing. You still have the content but it spread out like Zelda Wind Waker.

Boundaries are now removed in the new update.

I wore the starborn suit and used the ship for about 5 minutes. I like upgrading ships, and I like seeing my characters face.

@@tomm1109yea, I’ve stuck with them, but I get that. Not sure why you can’t make any changes, even if they just made it cosmetic

I think it promises an endgame concept with all the planets and some RPG elements, but it fails fantastically to underdeliver on that end. As far as the story/"campaign" is concerned I enjoyed it personally.

Glad you enjoyed! I’m certainly looking forward to the expansions coming down the line and sinking many more hours into the game for years to come!

People enjoy staring at grass grow. Doesn't mean it's a decent experience.

It is for them. I guess.

There's a hidden location of a base that makes an ominous sound. If you haven't found it I won't spoil it, but it's pretty creepy.

It would be less frustrating to have 1700 hours watching paint dry.

@@Praenuntium 1700 hours would be literally insane. Since Starfield released in September that would mean he had to play Starfield 8 hours every single day. That's a lot for any game but for something as bland as Starfield it's straight up mental...

Why are the bland planets a problem? These people would go to the moon and find it bland Actually, they might visit Iguaçu Falls and find it bland because for kilometers there are waterfalls but not hundreds of caves with monsters just 100 meters away from settlements

The notion of the game being terrible is a kind virus. The negative RU-vid reviews all say the same mundane crap. They do it for views because that was the zeitgeist. This guy is merely saying the zeitgeist has infected people, and oafs like you make such nonsense comments

​@@rogeriopenna9014cause its a game and not real life? Pretty obvious

just dont be so sensitive

I think your underestimating how addicting finding something to hate is to the point we are all haters. The gripes are real but the reaction to them is disingenuous or overblown. How Many people have had an okay time with the game to suddenly put it down due to overblown negative sentiment. "I like this" sees massive negative sentiment "oh no why" explains "oh but that's not really something that bothers me" it should bother you otherwise what's wrong with you "oh I guess it is really bad" thats basically the loop.

I can totally understand why you might end up not enjoying the game, but you’ve clearly given it a fair shake and that’s the main thing. I think time will be kind to Starfield though and it’ll only feel better to play in the future.

What politics are you talking about? Pronouns? Gay people? From what I found most of the main factions were pretty lame as they seemed to have no real political motivations at all. UAC and Freestar felt way too similair other then one liking cowboy clothing. Elder Scrolls and Fallout organizations felt like they have more motivation so far. Please don't tell me you are one of those people who unironically think Fallout New Vegas is apolitical.

right, sometimes finding and then leveraging a glitch during a boss fight is more fun than just sparring off and jumping though the obvious hoops. it's like an additional hack layer, where more modern/very tight games hold your hand the whole time - idk maybe this is nostalgia.

Um you can't "just play the game" if the quests and gameplay are broken. That was a major issue for a lot of people

@@exoticspeedefy7916oddly no matter how buggy a game is, always have barely any issues. I play Sonic 06 and so far i’ve only seen 3 non-game breaking bugs. Fallout New Vegas is buggy but it’s more than playable for me, and with Starfield i don’t remember one bug i’ve had. Usually the more i mod a Bethesda game though, the worse the bugs get.

500h so far and only experienced visual bugs, which weren't even common. Way more polished than Skyrim and Fallout 4 were.

@@Augusto9588 A lot of the major bugs have been patched out. It was buggy at launch for me I couldn't complete the main quest