How to Explain Papal Infallibility to an Evangelical 

I am converting from Protestant to Catholic faith and exactly what you did is how I approached the issues that created barriers for me. For example..the Rosary and Mary. I identified all the points I could get behind biblically and pretty much all of it became a non-issue. The outstanding points I researched, prayed and sought advice and counsel and every one of those points are absolutely non-issues, too! For me, it is all about perspective. I think differently now not in and of my own self but because I believe the Holy Spirit is revealing it to my head and heart. I look at things logically but also from a perspective different from that in which I previously held. It has made ALL the difference. All you can do Keith is plant a seed and let God do the rest.

See, even this lifelong Catholic is confused about what Papal Infallibility actually is, even my teachers didn't explain it clearly. But your simple explanation makes it clear! Thank you !

I appreciate your answer to this person. You began with basics concepts. You explained papal infallibility in a way that anyone could understand, even some Catholics, in sure!! Thanks, Keith!

This video is GOLD!! Your breakdown here of understanding where Protestants might be coming from was so enlightening too! The explanation you give was clear and simple without going into all of complex theological explanations. I find those usually confuse people more and you get into a war over unimportant details. This is going direct to my saves to share with others - thanks Keith!

I still laugh that it took a Protestant converted Catholic to bring me back to my Catholic home exclamation point God bless Keith another good message❤

You did amazing!!! "We have to scratch where they are itching" I love that statement!

No doubt you did the right thing Keith. Find them where they are and meet them with COMMON ground. Love your channel. I appreciate your sincerity and kindness.

That was actually a great explanation. One I never heard before. I like how you are able to taylor your response to the individual you are talking to.

Incredible!! I'm having the same conversations with my Evangelical friends in the US and Canada.

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This was more than “merely” a great answer to an important dogmatic issue. (It actually was beyond great in its succinct and cogent structure.) But this response should serve as a model for how many questions can be addressed first by finding the common ground upon which one can work toward a mutually consensus.

Thank you for your passion for our Lord and your humility. God bless you.

Excellent explanation and approach. Appreciate your ministry. Thank you for sharing.

Love my Catholic faith ❤…. and my mother and grandmother / aunt examples of faith as a child and their love for Jesus/Mary +

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Great work Keith

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So happy you found the fullness of the faith! Pax Christi!!!! 🙏🏻🔥❤️

Great share!

I think that was a fantastic way to present it. If I added anything to that explanation I'd only add that the assertion of Papal Infallibility has not happened very often at all in the nearly 2000 years of the Church. So it's pretty extraordinary when it is asserted.

Thank God we have you, Keith.

This is great, Keith. As was your response to the Strickland situation. And I think the two are related! There are so many popular Catholic youtubers with their hair on fire every time Pope Francis says something they interpret, in the most suspicious way possible, to be heretical. If they really had faith in (and understanding of) the doctrines of the Catholic church, their dismay would be tempered by the fact that God is guiding our church!

Thank you for the video Keith!! Very informative!!

Thank you for this

On this rock I will build my church and the powers of hell shall not prevail ❤

This is one of the concepts that I have always tried to understand. As a converted Protestant, many of the things that you have shared, particularly in the series '10 Awesome Things About the Catholic Church' have helped me develop as a Christian. Thank you.

Mr. Nester, great job! The Holy Spirit was guiding you in your conversation with this person. God Bless!

This is great, Keith. It can even go a step further with those folks by telling them that we believe the scriptures are the inspired perfect word of God and infallibility is simply protection from error (not a guarantee that solemn teachings will always be timed perfectly or as eloquent as they could be).

Thanks Keith for all your sharings

This is great! It’s so important to begin with common ground, meeting the person where they are at. Communication is only effective if it is catered to the audience. This is a big skill we teach in our pro-life training. It’s so cool to see you’re talking about it in an evangelization context.

Amen, Brother! Great articulation, and even more so in the context of your interlocutor.

I love it! We have to scratch where they are itching and that is so true. I have learned through a lot of trial and error that I need to be asking more questions than I am giving answers to be effective!!!

Great to see the new hearts on fire. Appreciate this approach. Going to us it myself

I appreciate you sharing your understanding and strategy. Especially the example of the Biblical authors' infallibility.

Great explanation About about Church Teachings, great Work Keith you Nailed it. 👍

Good response Keith

This is excellent, thank you.

Best explanation ever!! Well done Keith! 👏🏻😊

This was awesome and clear. Thanks Keith

Thank you for this Keith, love the heated part is sooo me .but I do think & hope in those heated conversations something will open there heart to the truth. Also enjoyed the addition of the crucifix

wow I have been a catholic all my life and this hits different

Helpful. Thank you

Asking questions is always a great tool to figure out where someone is coming from. What does this mean to you? How do you define...? I love the Keanu Reeves look Keith!

Thank you!

Excellent apologetic approach 👏🏾

Life long Catholic here. Catholic school and the whole 9 yards. 💯 on the Pope. But what my faith has taught me is to try to strive to live in the loving, forgiving ways of my savior Jesus Christ. ❤️

I’m exhausted just listening to this. I guess the reason why is because it seems to always turn into a heated argument. And I’m tired of fighting !! I’m 63 years old and I’ve lost count over the years of stating the facts that Catholicism is the real church. I’m glad this guy you were talking to Keith actually listened for a short while. Maybe that’s all we need for the Holy Spirit to do the rest. Sometimes, though I feel, we must do what Jesus says, if nobody listens, wipe the dust off your feet as a testimony, and move onto the next chapter which Christ has laid out for you.

Very good.

Thank you

Excellent presentation. How I best appreciate understanding papal infallibility is that it is one of three components of Jesus Christ's gift of infallibility to His entire Church based upon the following points. 1. Papal infallibility was defined at the First Vatican Council in Pastor Aeternus (The First Dogmatic Constitution On The Church of Christ) solemnly promulgated by Pope Pius IX on July 18, 1870. 2. However, the First Vatican Council was cut short later that year due to the outbreak of the Franco-Prussian war and the surrounding of the Vatican by troops of the newly formed Kingdom of Italy, thereby making Pope Pius IX a prisoner. 3. This sudden adjournment prevented the council bishops from completing a second dogmatic constitution on the church they were working on, thus leaving the Church's teaching on infallibility incomplete. 4. Almost one hundred years later at the Second Vatican Council, the Catholic Church was finally able to complete its teaching on infallibility in Lumen Gentium, the Dogmatic Constitution On The Church, solemnly promulgated by Pope Paul VI on Nov. 21, 1964. 5. Lumen Gentium No. 25 teaches that infallibility also resides (A) actively in the bishops who are union with the Pope and (B) passively in the entire Church that is protected by the Holy Spirit in accepting the teachings that the Pope and bishops present for belief: LG 25, Paragraph 2: "Although the individual bishops do not enjoy the prerogative of infallibility, they nevertheless proclaim Christ's doctrine infallibly whenever, even though dispersed through the world, but still maintaining the bond of communion among themselves and with the successor of Peter, and authentically teaching matters of faith and morals, they are in agreement on one position as definitively to be held.(1 Pt. 2:5) This is even more clearly verified when, gathered together in an ecumenical council, they are teachers and judges of faith and morals for the universal Church, whose definitions must be adhered to with the submission of faith.(Rev. 21:16)" LG 25, Paragraph 3: "And this infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer willed His Church to be endowed in defining doctrine of faith and morals, extends as far as the deposit of Revelation extends, which must be religiously guarded and faithfully expounded. And this is the infallibility which the Roman Pontiff, the head of the college of bishops, enjoys in virtue of his office, when, as the supreme shepherd and teacher of all the faithful, who confirms his brethren in their faith,(166) by a definitive act he proclaims a doctrine of faith or morals.(Gal. 4:26; cf. Rev. 12:17) And therefore his definitions, of themselves, and not from the consent of the Church, are justly styled irreformable, since they are pronounced with the assistance of the Holy Spirit, promised to him in blessed Peter, and therefore they need no approval of others, nor do they allow an appeal to any other judgment. For then the Roman Pontiff is not pronouncing judgment as a private person, but as the supreme teacher of the universal Church, in whom the charism of infallibility of the Church itself is individually present, he is expounding or defending a doctrine of Catholic faith.(Rev. 19:7; 21:2 and 9; 22:17) The infallibility promised to the Church resides also in the body of Bishops, when that body exercises the supreme magisterium with the successor of Peter. To these definitions the assent of the Church can never be wanting, on account of the activity of that same Holy Spirit, by which the whole flock of Christ is preserved and progresses in unity of faith.(Eph. 5:26)" [Vatican webpage /archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19641121_lumen-gentium_en.html] 6. The infallibility of the Catholic Church can then be seen as an image or reflection of the Holy Trinity: A. As The Father is the source of all divinity for the other Two Persons in the One God, so does the Pope as successor to St. Peter possess a plenary infallibility over the entire Church, rooted in (1) Simon's name change by Jesus in John 1:42, (2) Jesus' bestowal of the keys of the kingdom of heaven upon Peter as the rock upon which He will build His Church, combined with His conferring the powers of binding and loosing in Matthew 16:18-19, (3) Jesus' prayer that Peter will confirm his brethren after recovering from his betrayal of Jesus in Luke 22:32, and (4) Jesus's command to Peter after the resurrection to feed and watch over His sheep in John 21:15-17. B. As The Son receives all things from The Father except the power of generating The Son, so do the bishops as successors to the apostles receive the gift of infallibility, insofar as they are united with the Pope as successor to St. Peter. As well, they receive the power of binding and loosing in Matthew 18:18, but not the keys that Christ reserved for Peter. C. As The Holy Spirit is the communion of life and love between The Father and The Son, but whose origin is in The Father, so do the faithful of the entire Church passively participate in the Pope's and the bishops' infallibility when they accept what is proposed for belief by them, in the same manner that the crowd of three thousand, on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2:37-38, positively responded to the preaching of Peter and willingly obeyed his order to repent and be baptized.

If the gates of Hell can’t prevail against the church then the Holy Spirit will guide St Peters successors.

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Excellent explanation

What a perfect (dare I say infallible?) analogy. Thanks much!!

Wow....brilliant!

Pope talking to young boy A little while ago my father passed away. He was a nonbeliever, but he had all four of his children baptized. He was a good man. Is dad in heaven?'” “How beautiful to hear a son say of his father, ‘He was good,'”. And what a beautiful witness of a son who inherited the strength of his father, who had the courage to cry in front of all of us. If that man was able to make his children like that, then it’s true, he was a good man. He was a good man. “That man did not have the gift of faith, he wasn’t a believer, but he had his children baptized. He had a good heart,” Pope Francis said. God is the one who says who goes to heaven,” the pope explained. what kind of heart God has. “What do you think? A father’s heart. God has a dad’s heart. And with a dad who was not a believer, but who baptized his children and gave them that bravura, do you think God would be able to leave him far from himself?” Does God abandon his children?” the pope asked. “Does God abandon his children when they are good?” The children shouted, “No.” “There, Emanuele, that is the answer,” the pope told the boy. “God surely was proud of your father, because it is easier as a believer to baptize your children than to baptize them when you are not a believer. Surely this pleased God very much.” Pope Francis encouraged Emanuele to “talk to your dad; pray to your dad.” Do you think the pope is telling the truth about what God said in the Bible? John 14:6 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. In the specific sense of being a child of God through faith and relationship with Him, the Bible teaches that this is reserved for those who believe in Jesus Christ. In John 1:12, it says, "But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God." While God loves all people and desires for everyone to come to Him, it is through faith in Jesus that we become His children and experience the fullness of His love, grace, and salvation. I don’t understand why the pope is saying contrary to what God/Jesus said. He is misleading unbelievers that they can go to the kingdom of God just by being a good man and not by believing in Jesus.

That was an impressive unpacking. Dont degrade yourself. I would have just gone to the limits on infallibility. Your starting with what the other already believed was purely a Holy Spirit move. Cudos.

After receiving the keys of the kingdom, Peter taught that believers must be circumcised. Peter was not infallible.

6:39 To distinguish canonical dogma from generally accepted doctrine. See link in follow up comment.

As a Protestant the principle of Apostolic infallibility in giving us the scriptures is one thing but to stretch that over to a single person and a magisterium is a stretch. It is a stretch when you look at history of said Pope and magisterium. It is also a stretch to just assume because it was done once by God it continues. It is also a stretch that some person and group continue to speak for God when God has already spoken especially given that the purpose is to infallibley interpret scripture as if God requires that. It puts great power in people's hands over centuries and takes great faith given history that it has, continued without error given splits and the Protestant concern that the infallible Words of God and the Infallible Magisterium contradict each other.

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The question I would have asked is, "Do you know the bible you read and use came from and through the Catholic Church"? Even though your religion picks and chooses which books they desire in their bible (66 books instead of 73).

May I give a suggestion? 1) Next time, insist that Catholics agree that the Hagiographers were inspired and protected from error; 2) Also insist, the Hagiographers, while protected from error in the pursuits, were also having the pursuits initiated by God. No part of the Bible is superfluous.

Papal infallibility….does that include the two Medicis that became popes. (The latter is quoted to say, “we have been given the papacy. Let us enjoy it.” )Or the times when there were 2 and even 3 popes each anathematizing the other. Which one was infallible? Which one was anathematized in the eyes of God?

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I am confused how the Pope makes mistakes but is still protected from error.

That’s an awesome new definition of infallible…! 😂 😮 😆

So why are there no Bibles in the Catholic church?

I just want to know what isn't in scripture that is required for salvation??

What about the "Saint" Statues??? Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

I answer straight with the bible: 1. Peter dictated how to appoint judas' replacement to take his post!!! The Holy Spirit overpoured over Mathias as well! Thus, God Confirmed Peter's decision (Apostolic succesion as well) 2. To eliminate the need for circumcision, Council of jerusalem. Peter's decision stood and binds the Church to this day, infallibly, 3. Pope Damasus, I in 382AD declared infallibly that the bible is the word of God, believed to this day!! Etc.

What is most concerning, I believe… is that people of “FAITH”, often sin liberally, resting on the laurels of forgiveness. In our striving for PURITY… we could really stand to be more thorough or we will stunt our own Growth, fail to bring aid to others and misrepresent salvation to the masses. (Oh look, a Catholic PUN.). Getting ALIGNED with GOD’s Word means being more disciplined. When we see Clergymen flagrantly violating basic rules of decency, the faith is not only watered down, it can easily be detested and disregarded.

We are warned in the Gospel about the wolves wearing in sheep's clothing. Our Lady of La Sallete warned us that in the end-times, " Rome will lose the faith, and will become the Seat of the Antichrist. We must see it if the one sitting in the Seat of St. Peter is not a ravenous wolf. If the pope who is sitting in the highest position in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church falsely teaches to the people, and what he teaches are contrary to the true Catholic Doctrines, persecuted the faithful remnants, and restricted the Traditional Latin Holy Mass, he is clearly not a true spiritual representative of Jesus Christ, but an Antichrist. He is making himself above God by his own false teachings, his own new false reforms, and his new false changes of worldliness. A blind and false obedience to the blind guide will both fall into the ditch. A Papal infallibility is only to the Popes who are obedient to the True Teachings of Jesus Christ, and followed the teachings of the Apostles.

Right at 4:15 is where the heresy and deception of Satan is found. So sad that the evangelical Christian did not know this. God did not inspire anyone. His word is inspired. The term inspired means breathed out. Even this man who claims to know things doesn’t know that otherwise he would understand that nobody is breathed out of the mouth of God, except the word. The men that were used by God to write his breathe out word were moved and carried along by the Holy Spirit and every single part of what they wrote was super intended by God. Not supervised or managed by God, as if the human authors thought of these things on their own, and it originated with them, then God simply looked it over afterwards like a manager or a teacher. No, this is the very word of God 100 % from God, supernaturally flowing through these men and the spirit of the living God writing his absolutely perfect revelation through the instrumentality of man. None of it originated with man. Of course, it included their personalities and their cultures and their experiences but this was the initial intention of God in the nature of his word even before the creation of the world. Do not be fooled by the satanic cult of Catholicism. This cults inception was during the time of Constantine 300 years after Christ. It is the union of politics and spirituality that birth this cult. It’s got nothing to do with God, although it dresses itself with holy hardware just like its father the devil. Turn and run from it.

Why is Jesus still on the cross?

Points taken from the video: 1. Papal infallibility doesn't mean the Pope is perfect, never sin, has perfect personal beliefs, and always correct 2. The Holy Spirit protected the Bible writers from errors and that protection remained on the Pope Conclusion: The Holy Spirit protects the Pope from errors yet he can still do errors

*SUMMARY* What do Catholics actually believe about papal infallibility? It doesn't mean the Pope is perfect, never sins, or never makes mistakes. It doesn't mean he has perfect personal beliefs about every issue or that everything he says is correct. To understand infallibility, consider the following: 1. The Bible is the inerrant, infallible word of God. 2. The men who wrote the New Testament were not infallible. 3. However, they wrote the word of God infallibly because they were inspired by God through the power of the Holy Spirit, who protected them from error. 4. This protection from error was limited to when God was using them to communicate the truths of the faith and not to everything they said or did. Similarly, the Catholic Church teaches that papal infallibility operates in the same manner; the Pope is protected from error by the Holy Spirit in matters of faith and doctrine, especially when defining doctrine in line with Apostolic tradition. God did not physically take over the bodies of the New Testament authors to move their pens nor did He dictate scripture word for word. He inspired the sacred writers by the power of the Holy Spirit and protected them from error. This does not mean that everything they ever said and did was infallible. God only protected them from error when He was using them to communicate the truths of the faith. That is what Catholicism teaches about papal infallibility. In the same way that the Holy Spirit protected the biblical writers from errors in matters of faith, Catholics believe that protection remains on the Pope, who is the successor to St. Peter, given the keys to the Kingdom by Jesus in Matthew 16."

Believe Christ and Him crucified / read gospels,Paul’s writing, and the New Testament,the further you get away from that, the more twisted and fractured you become as evidenced by many current dogmas on Marianism , infant baptism and the idea of the Popes infallibility. He is just flesh and prone to the same mistakes and failures that you and I have/ it’s a big mistake to venerate or put him on a pedestal. It is called idolatry

The Catholic Church does not believe that it is the infallible word of God. If it did, it would understand that Jesus is the word. And he sent his advocate to testify of him. that advocate is not the fallible incorrect words of the Catholic magisterium

God is the head of the Church not the Pope. Pope Francis is a biblical 21st century example of a host for an unclean spirit.

The popes conflict each other. The bible doesn't.

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Infallibility of the Pope falls away as long as he is not led by the Holy Spirit and contradicts the prophets and the Apostles(Word)

The same authority that Jesus Christ gave to Peter in Matthew 16: 19 is given to all the apostles in Matthew 18: 18 Where does the Bible say that the authority Jesus Christ gave to Peter is transferrable to future generations? And where does it say that it is transferred to the Popes. Peter was crucified in Jerusalem as far as I know. He was never in Rome. In fact the Apostle Paul wrote the epistle to the Romans long after Peter was supposed to be made Pope. But his epistle to the Romans salutes many people, but never mentions Peter. It proves that Peter was never in Rome and never was Pope. Also Peter himself wrote two epistles but never mentions his office as Pope. He mentions believes of the Lord Jesus Christ as a Royal generation, a royal priesthood and a peculiar people in his epistles, and we believers of Christ as the Royal generation and royal priesthood. The Roman Catholic Church has taught various falsehoods including worship of Mary the mother of Jesus and the saints. It draws attention away from Jesus Christ who alone can save us. Acts 4: 12

1. Jesus cannot teach error. (cf. Jn 14:6) 2. Anyone who hears Jesus cannot hear error. 3. Anyone who hears Jesus’ apostles cannot hear error. (cf. Jn 16:13) 4. The Church speaks in the name of Jesus and His apostles. (cf. Mt 16:18-19) 5. Therefore, the authority of the Church which speaks in the name of Jesus cannot err. 6. Therefore, the Church's authority is infallible, equivalent to the authority of Christ himself.

Why there are so many Bible versions (3,030+) and 45,000 Christian denominations? Clearly people can't agree with a SINGLE interpretation of the Bible. There were so many changes happened as the Bible is translated and there were contradictions, inconsistences, out of contex, double meanings, etc. Are these people guided by the holy spirit? Who knows? Using the words - I think, I thought, perhaps, maybe, my opinion is, I have an idea, this means a person is not sure of what he is saying. It's just speculations, and not guided by the holy spirit.

I think your approach is good. Perhaps, we need to add further clarifications that It is infallible Only When a true Pope proclaims a Dogma "EX CATHEDRA', and that all Catholic Dogmas handed down from the beginning and until now are infallible Truth and, thus cannot be altered or changed.

You’re very sneaky. Firstly it sounds like you are talking about people who are potentially false converts. Were you actually truly converted? All those churches you were part of a likely part of the false church. Those who are getting their doctrine from tv evangelists are getting doctrine from wolves. Secondly the argue is coming from a point that is falsely stating a ‘fact’ that God made Peter the first pope and so on, thirdly the people God inspired to write his Word were Apostles. The Pope is not an Apostle.

How can you explain the fact that in one of the “infallible” dogmas, “Munificentissimus Deus”, Mary is referred to as “ever Virgin Mary” but Matthew 1:25 says: “and did not know her till she had brought forth her firstborn Son. And he called His name Jesus.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭1‬:‭25‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ “did not know her till” means they had sex after the virgin birth. The only way you can respond is with repentance and leaving the Catholic Church, or stay deceived and lying.

The men who wrote 'the word of God" were not infallible. All scripture is 'God breathed" and that is why the scripture is inerrant. We know that they were telling the truth because "For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty." That the case for the Pope? Many many agruments for the teachings of the Church very often come down to , 'well Peter" That being said it is an assumption that 'authority" equals 'infallibility", it does not. Just like an umpire has the authority to call ball and strikes does not men all of his calls are correct. Just as people often do not understand the claims of Papal infallibility they also misunderstand what so called 'sola scriptura means". It means that the Church IS fallible because men are fallible.

Very hard to defend this Pope. This horrible sinner will pray for him though before going to sleep. ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

You're kidding, right? Next you will be trying to tell us Mary was sinless.

Your example of scripture being infallible falls terribly short. What scripture says is that people were moved by the Holy Spirit. I checked the verse, i don't see the word infallible there anywhere. And, hypothetically if they were infallible only when penning the scripture its a leap from here to the moon to apply it to the papacy. Since there is no papacy in scripture. You know right that Dollinger rejected papal infallibility as did many other bishops? Dollinger taught church history for over 40 years and knew the church fathers didn't teach it anywhere.

Protestant response. I would think you would need to explain why papal infallibility was not proclaimed dogma (required to be believed by all Roman Catholics) until 1870. Also explain why does it even matter since the vast majority of papal pronouncements are not considered infallible. The infallible or “extraordinary” papal magisterium has been exercised only twice, when Pope Pius IX defined the Immaculate Conception of Mary in 1854 and later grandfathered in as infallible by Vatican I and Pius XII defined her Assumption in 1950. This makes papal infallibility a hollow shell. It is virtually meaningless since 98% of papal pronouncements are not infallible. The actual number is debated and depends on which Roman Catholic expert that you talk to. So you have a fallible list of infallible statements. Also explain why it was unknown through most of the history of the papacy. BTW, someone who only watches tv preachers and does not participate in a local church is not mainstream.

Two reasons Jesus is the word, and he is eternal. Second, the Holy Spirit, you take that from the Holy Spirit, you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit. That’s the unpardonable sin. Plus you change the book of revelations and another video. That makes your name remove removed from the lambs book of life. First Corinthians chapter 4, verse 6. Don’t go beyond what is written.