Josh, as a new content creator, new FX 30 owner, interested in S-LOG 3, but equally intimidated shooter, AND a final cut user - I can't possibly thank you enough! This might very well be the most valuable piece of educational content specific to my needs I've EVER seen. Trust me, I've watched countless hours in the pursuit! Greater still, you provide such in-depth information for both in door/controlled and outdoor variances in shooting. As I'm sure you're aware, a lack of confidence in using gear can stifle creativity. Your video has given me the knowledge and confidence to start creating, rather than the perpetual state of consuming. Keep up the great work! 🤘🏻
Thank you for such a great comment. I am so glad to hear that this video was helpful for you. Slog 3 shouldn't be scary, it is actually pretty simple and can get you such great images. Good luck with the shooting/grading and thanks for watching!
Wow, this is seriously an education. I have already watched this video twice, taken notes, and worked through each step to get the best footage I've ever created. Thank you so much for putting time into this. I FINALLY feel like I trust myself to produce videos with S-Log.
My feelings of gratitude clearly aren't occupying this comment section alone. You are an awesome teacher. As someone who recently graduated with a digital media degree and instantly became the sole videographer for a company, I'm pretty overwhelmed at the ridiculous amount of minute detail that goes into the craft. I'm super meticulous and don't like leaving stones unturned. Thanks so much for your content. It's incredibly useful. I just got an FX30 and have bee super stressed about learning all of the functions. This content is Golden :)
Thank you so much for the kind words. If you haven't seen this video yet, this is a full user guide for the FX3 (very similar to the FX30): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fBNOwUaOE84.html
Super helpful! I find shooting with the LUT on (loaded by me) in the FX3 allows me to nail my exposure every time. Then in post, I just apply the LUT and I’m essentially done. Like you said, there are a million different ways to do it, just have to find the right one for your workflow.
It's just so much easier to get the proper exposure with the histogram. I just did some test shooting with it and I nailed all of my shots 100%. Can't believe I've been using the exposure meter for this many years. Thanks!
I’ve watched hundreds of hours of videos and I love your style. The demonstration and everything is put together so well you’re a great teacher thanks so much
Thank you for keeping this simple. I've been a professional photographer for a very long time but am new to video. I've watched quite a bit of color grading training and it has been pretty overwhelming. This is the first time I've seen it applied in a quick and simple manner. Thanks again.
Thank you for this super helpful and super clear explanation on slog3, actually im also starting to switch from PP11 to slog3 and this is a huge help for me, please dont stop sending knowledge to others i hope your channel grows more coz it deserves it, thank
Zebras are your friends! I've been shooting video for over 20 years. Most of the time, I don't have time to use a grey card or a white card. I use the zebras based on skin tones. If I'm shooting log with the 709 LUT, I'll set them for 70, or actually 68 or 65 (use the custom settings). If I'm using dynamic range assist or just looking at LOG, I'll set them for 50 because the zebras correlate to the LOG, not the DRA LUT. If I'm shooting S-Cinetone, on my FX9, I've been setting then for ~62. This lets you meeter off of skin, or concrete, or light colored tree trunks, or all kinds of things that are in that approximate luminance range. Caucasian or asian faces I let the zebras cover about 30% of a face. For darker skin tones I might do ~15 % or just the highlights. Darker skin tones can be 10+ IRE less than lighter ones. If you expose them at 70, you can actually over expose them. Kofi Yeboah did an excellent video called 4 Easy Exposure Tips to Perfect Dark Skin Tones with S-Log 3 which I highly recommend.
please Brian explaine me. I set 41 Zebra and did everything like Josh did but with all these settings Zebra is everywhere in my screen(( I think that 41 of Zebra is too much for S-Gamut3.Cine/S-Log3
What a great video! You've show concepts in practice in a very intuitive way. Indeed you're correcting/grading. I prefer to use a CST to a wide gamut intermediate color space and gama curve that will take care of the color correction in a mathematically sound way. Then I'll take care of the grading if needed.
I’m a content creator who uses Final Cut Pro. I just got a FX30 and have found your videos super helpful through this learning curve. Thank you. Rachel, LDK
Thank you for taking the time to explain these important topics in such a concise and useful manner. After upgrading to the zv-e1, I wanted to take advantage of SLOG and you really made things clear. I appreciate it, I’ll be keeping an eye on your future videos!
Thank you for taking the time to make and share such a useful tutorial. I especially appreciate your guidance not to make every shot look the same in terms of exposure. I learned this the hard way with photo editing. The world is beautiful because of its variability--embracing that imperfection is part of the joy of post-production.
Perfectly explained! I've watched heaps of other videos regarding proper exposure in SLOG3. Most explanations circulated around the exposure multimeter and zebras around 94. My highlights were blown out most of the times...this was driving me crazy! Your explanations for in and outside made the most sense for me. I don't own an nd filter (yet), but my results were consistent. Had to change the ISO though. Thanks a lot 💪!
Josh, this was great. Thank you. You managed to demystify the whole SLOG shooting and color correction/grading process in a short and engaging piece. I've watched a lot of videos on this topic and am slowly beginning to get it, but you brought it home. I hope. Haha. Again, thanks.
Thankfully, a proper guide on how to expose properly Slog3. Many youtubers are giving advise to overexpose your footage 1 stop higher by raising the ISO, without realizing that its actually not advisable to raise ISO (unless the camera has dual native ISO and you are using the 2nd native ISO) to overexpose as the higher you raise the ISO, the lower the dynamic range will become and will also raise up the noise floor. As for the grading part, if you are not using Davinci Resolve for its color management (the most accurate way to transform your footage), its better to use Sony's official Slog3 to REC 709 LUT because it will accurately transform your footage to how you really shot it. The problem with manually transforming it is that you really are just guessing on how the scene really looked like when you shot it vs using the official LUT wherein it has the right equation on properly transforming your footage to Rec 709 with the proper middle grey as the basis. Put it at the end of your workflow , basically as an Output Device Transform or ODT then color correct or grade upstream. Saves so much time vs manually mapping out Slog3 to Rec709
Very helpful. I’m finally going to give this a shot. Base iSO on A7S3 for slog3 is 640. That was the only thing diff from the video. I’ll check my A74 next, which per this video showed 800. Thanks for this info! Subbed
Josh I am learning a lot of new things wished you lived in Henderson ,NV I’ve would pay you to take private lessons . Really I am loving all your videos thx
Just bought a A6700! What a beast of a hybrid! THIS is the best crop sensor Sony exposure video on the WWW 👍 I just gotta know... What ND filter setup are you using? Is it built into the FX?
Hey Josh. Just coming across your video. Great job! Thanks. Question - I'm shooting outdoor with the A7IV. When setting my exposure, why wouldn't I use the zebras?
You're welcome. There are a few ways to do all of this stuff. Some people prefer to use zebras and set them at a high level to show highlights peaking. I just use the histogram. Each camera and log profile has different values, so its easy for me to just use the histogram. Personal preference.
Thank you Josh, I watch this video at least once a month! It’s absolutely priceless! One question: at 11.45 when you’re changing the light on the grey card, what would be the best way change exposure if I have no more light to work with indoors?
You're welcome! Open up the lens to the maximum aperture, get a faster lens or figure out a way to add more light. The last option is to raise the ISO.
One RU-vidr says when exposing for skin tones, set it to 55. The other says set it to 70. Josh says 41. And yet another says set them to lower limit 94 and don't look back. Which is it??
Skin tones are different on different people. That is why I don't base exposure on skin tones. Sony says the technical way to expose Slog3 is to expose a gray card to 41% (or 45% with the display LUT in FX3/FX30). This does not have to do with skin tones. The two situations I talk about in this video is how I expose most situations. Give them a shot and see what you like.
@Josh_Sattin Interesting, I will experiment with this. Does this underutilize full dynamic range capacity of the camera? My understanding is that by exposing to the right (of a histogram) which the 94 lower limit roughly accomplishes gives you most dynamic range and lower noise levels. A video comparison between various settings on this topic would be awesome.
It depends on the scene you are shooting. You also need to make choices as a filmmaker sometimes about exposure. You can't expose every situation the same. In a controlled lighting situation I light the subject based on the desired aperture, set the exposure with the lighting and the gray card, then adjust the practicals and other lights to work in the scene. In a high dynamic range run and gun situation, I expose as high as I can without clipping to have the sensor capture as much information as possible. But, if the subject is more important to expose than the highlights you can make the creative choice to expose for that. There is no one way to approach every situation, but I use the two methods described in this video all the time. Practice, practice, practice.
41% on middle grey is the rec709 value but I think for slog3 it's better to over expose it one or two stops (without clipping highlights) and bring it down to 41ire after grading
Thank you so much for this. I’m still learns log3 and s cinetone i was told for a log 3 set my zebras to 94 plus. On my Sony a7iv. I also don’t have any luts.
You can add A6700 to the title! This was nice, thank you :) Would you recommend I shoot SLOG3-CINE on my A6300? I use both an A6700 and A6300, but the A6300 only shoots 8bit
Thank you very much for watching the video. I have a question. Is there anything I should check if I assume that the color space is set to HDR or PQ and edit it instead of rec. 709? I think it comes out much brighter when editing it with the color space of rec. 709
Thanks! Flexible ISO is better most people getting started in using Slog3 because you can change the ISO. Here is a full video about Cine EI: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oAM1RRcGuss.html
I’ve avoided slog due to the grading etc. What you’ve shown above is that basically what the conversion lut does? Will try what you said exposing with the histogram rather than the exposure reading ☺️
Hello Josh, thank you for your detailed explanations, which I will gladly apply. You do a manual white balance (7IV?), which I can't do on my 7IV in video mode. What am I doing wrong??? Thanks🙏
When I go to select “set” for custom white balance it is greyed out and it says this operation or setting is not available as follows. Shoot mode- memory recall. I am shooting in cini ei
@@Josh_Sattin that is weird! Any solutions besides using the preset WB (what Ive been doing)? If I shoot on manual would I have to dial in my settings each time my camera is on?
It is a weird limitation from Sony. If you shoot in manual mode and set one of the custom white balance settings, it should save it in the that custom white balance selection.
Nice video. I like this histogram method and will definetly give it a try. I have been playing with skin tone zebras for run and gun stuff but it does make it harder to see what is on the screen so if one can get used to exposing well with the histogram that sounds ideal. For grading a simple color space transfrom in da vinci seems more accurate... im also quite new to da vinci but i 100% recommend switching. It does seem a little annoying that log seems to perhaps more effected by iso and ND filters seem more necessary, especially as they can effect quality and colour which is the purpose of using Log in the first place but I guess we can't have everything.
Hi, i just found your channel and it's great. One thing that I wanted to ask... so, basically if you make the (loose) comparison to analogue fotography, in log you have two isos, and shooting in ei is similar to push-pull process with film?
Hi Josh, after going over this extremely carefully and getting my indoor and daytime outdoor workflows up to speed, I have also been experimenting with outdoor night video. What is your exposure strategy for outdoor nighttime video in terms of zebras, ISOs, grey card, etc.? (I assume you'd still use S-log3?) And how do you then color the footage in Final Cut? Thank you so much!
You're welcome. I haven't tested them side by side, but if you set a PP to Slog3 then it should behave very similarly to Flexible ISO. That being said, this is a workaround and not how Sony wants you to use the camera. I would just use Flexible ISO.
