This arnold technique uses a lot less air than I thought was needed for false cord. It's almost like I'm not even letting air out. Not sure if I'm doing it right. EDIT: After a couple days playing around with this technique it seems to really work! I have always had trouble with pure false cord and seemed to be stuck on fry or fry/false cord hybrid. Using this somehow unlocked what sounds and feels like a pure false cord that I have heard others do but had trouble replicating myself. Also, as far as the amount of air you can use more just with the diaphragm breath support to make it sound even nastier. This was great! Thanks!
Yes, you do use a bit of your actual vocals chords inside your false chords, something I discovered when I want my false chords to be louder and more brutal. But don't use too much of your actual vocals chords in your false chords screams cos you'll end up sound like a robot.
Please tell me you watched the video they did with Will Ramos of Lorna Shore? They dropped a camera down his throat and recorded what’s going on when he screams. 😱😱😱 absolutely amazing!
Yeah, I honestly thought I would see false chords flapping but I ended up seeing more than that. His entire throat twisting like what!?! Does this apply to all kinds of false chords and fry screams? And I can false chords scream so does this mean I'm twisting my throat as well!?! So many questions!?!
Yea i saw that video too. I think he does a hybrid type scream, cuz his false chords closed even in his frys. Couldn't his his vocal chords at all just the fry chords
Please make more videos! These have all helped me a lot so far and I watched your description video, but I wish it was longer and had more scream types in it. You've been the most helpful but I wanna see longer videos please!
Just keep trying bro, don't get discouraged, you'll get there sooner or later. I myself took like 1 year plus to get my false chords to a good standard.
I noticed some type A works good depending on your style. Think Corey Taylor uses type B cuz listen closely and it sounds like a top of throat false chord
For the longest time I couldn’t wrap my head around how to get the false chord sound. By doing this Arnold thing I think I got the sound for a couple seconds and then it goes away. Going to keep working on it.
I love the contrast between clear, technical, scientific explanations and then the jump cuts to the examples. This is most certainly _not_ a normie video. lol
For real, for the longest time I couldn’t wrap my head around how to get the false chord sound. By doing the Arnold thing I think I got the sound for a couple seconds and then it goes away. Going to keep working on it.
For me, I have to legit do fry scream until it ran out of stamina (which takes like 5min+) then my false chords will be really there, thick and juicy. Otherwise, my false chords will have too much of my talking voice in it which sounds really cringy.
getting past the cookie monster stage ! i finally figured out how to put more breath into my screams to make them sound fuller and less just like vibrations and weird deep sea creature noises lol
I find myself unable to do the Schwarzenegger impression 😔. I've also heard people recommend doing the exasperated sigh, but believe it or not, I've never done that kind of sigh. Whenever I let out sighs, I almost always just lightly engage the vocal folds, and the only other kind of sighing I do is just exhaling without vocalizing. I am able to do a kind of low distortion, but I have a feeling that's most likely a low fry sound. I dunno, perhaps I ought to book an evaluation by a teacher so I can at least confirm what kind of screams I'm actually doing. Does anyone have any other advice on how to find the false fold/arytenoid sound?
I have a question in the song in waves by Trivium. Are they doing false cord when they scream in waves? And in the song This calling by All that remains are the verses false cord or low fry scream?
Matt 100% does fry screams, and kind of a "yelled" fry at that. His are also kinda dangerous as he's pretty much doing a yell with a bit of fry involved, and thats why he blew out his voice so many times and had to relearn how to scream.
You basically gotta keep fucking around with your throat til you figure it out, it's never as simple as the videos. Try transitioning from fry to false, you should feel something directly Infront of your vocal chords, that's the vestibular folds
Watch Aliki Katriou and Justin Bonitz (except his videos from more than 2 years ago). They are the only people that seem to completely know what they are talking about with essentially no misinformation. Nearly everyone else I have watched, Riffshop included, has some correct info, and some misleading info.
@@zapatocny8467 some slight discomfort is normal when first starting. But no, there should not be pain involved, or having the need to cough. If you feel pain or find yourself wanting to cough, you are doing this wrong
@@outrunhawk sometimes I can do well with phlegm in my throat, but most of the time it is not what I want and my throat hurts. I really don't understand how to do it. Is there a trick to do this better?
Guys, i Love this technique... but I'm still getting into this music universe. Got any recommendations for the noob here? (I'm trying to learn it, but some times I feel a little without inspiration...)
I'm probably not doing it right because the sounds that came out of me sounded demonic and felt like there was hot brimstone in my throat, a portal to hell opened in my throat. I like being able to talk, so I don't think I'll do it again.
I'm was trying to figure it out too, and eventually, I found a video on youtube (Channel: Sibila Extreme Vocal), and it shows you how to transform Kargyraa throat singing to a false cord scream. In short, you have to relax your true vocal folds, I'm practicing it almost everyday. He is a cool guy, and makes amazing screaming tutorials. Good luck!
@@suazdee Try to practice it at least 5 minutes a day. You can also do the exercises while watching the video (do the exercises while he does it). I still struggling with false cord screams, but I'm sure that I don't use my epiglottis, so I just need to build compression. It's just a matter of time until you unlock your scream.
@@PeperLuigi idk how i did, i just did, i learned how to do it in seconds, but not crazy good. its just doing a very big angry sigh then moving the sigh around lol.
Do you think there is an age limit to this? I know it sounds funny but I’m a middle aged woman who is so so wanting to be able to vocal scream? I want to start this journey it its reachable
It's normal, you're using muscles that never being used before, you're training them. But just because you feel this little sore, you have to take careful and don't abuse of your muscles.
It would be a pleasure to take a lesson but I'm French and not good enought to understand with vocals instead reading :/ Cause I don't know what I am using as technic to sing.
YES FINALLY, ok so still high af just posted big paragraph on common fry mistakes video. u did a hybrid scream video recently and thats what i watched before this but when u did it in that video it didnt sound like mine, so i was dissappinted. cause i thought i figured out i was doing hybrid long ago and that didnt sound right. then u did it in this video and i was like yep thats it lmao. problem though. soooooooooooooooo little problem… this is the scream ive always been doing for like 3 years now or whenever covid was about started, and until i decided it was hybrid i thought i was doing false chord. then i thought it was fry (because i was taught that to make fry screams loud u need to close ur false chords slightly)i still do not know how to do extra regular false chord. or get extra regular fry loud. that bad? also, when i put my tongue forward or even wiggle it it sounds like the high false chord u did in the “another 2 common false chords mistakes video”
Remember when this channel used to write cool original anime/quirky themed music rather than give vocal tutorials it's original subscribers don't give two shits about? Those were the days....
@@jrowland6717 Yeah, looking at the amount of views these videos get compared to the views the old ones get I'd say you are wrong and plenty of people care.
@@Tryptic2x ya know, most people don't bitch just because they're not catered to.. You need to realize you're nowhere as important as you think you are
