Do you or have you thought about making a full course on this subject. I'm looking to get into real estate filming and photography, I have pretty much what your explaining except I also have a dji pocket Osmo and a hand made boom for it. Would love to see a course in depth.. not that this isn't.. this is a very good video, thanks
@@sonoferin54 Thanks Martin, it's certainly something I'm thinking of but honestly not sure if and when I'd get round to it. Appreciate your comment though, thank you! I've never used the Osmo but I saw the RU-vidr 'Mark Art Now' made a brilliant video with it, might be worth looking up :)
I always love working with agents that know what they want as far as which details to spend time on. Some high end agents still don't know what's priority, so it's good to know these things yourself.
Thanks Myles that was a very thorough video. It's nice to see how you've stuck with the same camera and learned how to use it inside and out. I'm trying to pluck up the courage to 'upgrade' my D750 after 5 years of use.
Thanks Mark! I’d be lying if I said I didn’t get itchy feet but the GH5 is still very capable, especially when you consider the 10 bit modes :) I’d only upgrade for a significant improvement that I think could make a difference to my bottom line 👍🏻
Great video, Myles! Been doing property photography for a long time now but never ventured into video work. Looking into it now and this was eally useful. Cheers!
Thank you Myles for creating this video, I am an agent in Surrey and also a fairly good photographer - however creating property videos are a whole new thing to learn. Since the Covid lockdown I have more time to learn a new skill and have done a few property videos. I wished i had seen you guide first! Really really helpful - thank you! I use premier pro to edit my footage, it would great to see you editing guide if possible?
Thanks David! I would be demonstrating on Final Cut but the edit tutorial is on my list to do :) From your perspective what's the best way for a videographer to kick off a partnership with an agent? All the best in the lockdown!
One of the best and most concise real-estate video tutorials - thank you! This is very helpful and look forward to your editing video along with follow up topics and videos. - Peter
Thanks Luis! On the Laowa 7.5mm on the GH5 it’s really easy- because the lens is so wide the depth of field is deep (especially if stopped down to f2.8 or more), so if it’s at about infinity focus then almost everything will be sharp, especially because nothing is too close to the camera as it’s on a gimbal doing the wide shots of the rooms. That lens is fully manual so no AF! I only focus manually myself as AF isn’t great on the GH5 anyway :)
Cheers! Absolutely, zooming in in post is a bit of a crutch I use if the shot feels boring, but in real estate (especially here) people are obsessed about making the space look as big as possible, so I wouldn’t zoom or crop if there’s a chance I make some important space seem smaller 👍🏻
Thanks Myles, great vid, as a photographer of Real Estate and Architecture, I am constantly being asked to provide video as well. Certainly a lot of great tips to up my video game.
Thanks för great tutorial. What aperture do you use smd how do you set the focus for each take? Low aperture gives me better focus but to little light.. your shots looks do great!
Thanks! The Laowa 7.5nm is so wide that almost everything is in focus at f2.8 or so when focusing at infinity, so that tends to be what I do. I don’t trust the lens markings so that does involve checking focus with peaking and by punching in before rolling. Good luck!
Thank you for your tips, I recently purchased the LAOWA 11mm 4.5F aspherical lens for shooting real estate videos. I know how to correct photographs, but am unsure your editing process in Adobe Premier to correct any distortions or crop in. Do you have any instructional videos you can link me to that you have done? Your work is wonderful, thank you!
Thanks Jason! I actually don’t know how to correct for distortion on Adobe, I know there’s a way on Resolve but otherwise I’m afraid I’m not sure... apologies, hope you get it sorted!
Sure, the skylight shot had me sliding the camera past the window frame, so in post I put that clip above the end of the chair one, and used a mask to ‘delete’ the area on the right of the window frame. I used key frames to animate the mask so it follows the window frame, it then appears to swipe the next shot in 👍🏻
Absolutely awesome - thanks for making this. I really need to work out what I'm doing wrong with colors.. either shooting or in post. Yours look so good!
@@jerrrrrrrrbear shooting: nail the white balance and exposure. That’s too much to cover in a RU-vid comment, but essentially I want the white balance set in camera manually to suit the scene, so white, greys and blacks look neutral with no warm or cool cast. Exposure should be good so that the room isn’t dark or overexposed. I try to protect my highlights unless it makes the room too dark, in which case I make the room look good because brightening anything in post is likely to introduce noise. Learn your waveform or histogram (whatever tool your camera has) to ensure your interiors aren’t too dark or too bright. I’d increase ISO as a last resort, i try to get good exposure using aperture, then shutter speed (I’ll lower to 1/50 for extremely slow 50P movement) and otherwise I’d raise the ISO. In post- set the exposure so that blacks are near the bottom of the waveform and the brightest parts of the scene go up to the top / 100 IRE. Adjust white balance by using a neutral colour in the room (you can use a mask to isolate that area so you only see that colour) and use a vector scope to judge whether your neutral colours are in the middle where they belong. Good luck!
Nice axe! I feel like this may have just leveled up my music videos. Your shots are clean and smooth. Thanks for the video and ya, seeing the edit would be very cool.
Great video with lots of information. I'm just starting to learn real estate videography. I have been a still real estate photographer for many years. I was recently given a Lumix GH2. Do you feel this is a good camera for video work starting out? It has a 14-42 3.5 lens. I would love to see your processing video. Looking to buy one of your videos, can you tell me which is best for beginners?
Hi Sandy, honestly I never had the GH2 but I know from a bit of experience how noisy the GH4 is when either under-exposed or above ISO 800 or so. Also with that lens being relatively slow at f3.5 I honestly think you’d probably be disappointed with the footage as we’re inevitably filming darker corners of houses at some point :) That said, I probably pay attention to picture quality more than most, so ultimately it depends on the expectations of your clients, so before you decide to spend more maybe try and rent a faster lens about f2 and see what the footage is like. Thanks for your interest in my courses! I’ve got one for the GH5 but it won’t be totally relevant to the GH2 I don’t think, but it covers basics too on lenses and exposure etc if you want to try it out, and you could always get a refund in 30 days if you don’t like it :)
I edit in final cut and use “optical flow” often to enable slowing down footage that’s 24p or 30p. It seems to work well but haven’t used it for real estate yet. I wonder if that’s an option for darker houses, to shoot in 24p or 30p to allow for a slower shutter speed and gain a stop or two of light…
I think that’s a really good idea for real estate! The issues I’ve had with optical flow in the past were with human subjects and movement, but a simple push in to a dark room could be the best possible scenario for optical flow. Good idea, thanks for sharing!
Brilliant video. I’ve been interested in getting into property videography for a while and have watched A LOT of videos on the topic, and this is by the far the best explained, most informative and helpful one I’ve come across...I’d be interested to know more about the business side things; how do you find your clients, how did you start, and what helped you get momentum? Just great stuff, thanks for making this and look forward to seeing more.
Thanks Charles! Like any business, your network is huge in getting opportunities, if you know someone who knows someone in the business, it’s going to help to get in with them. I personally would shoot the odd free project to build a portfolio and then you have to approach estate agents / realtors showing your value. It’s a competitive industry and honestly I don’t do much of it anymore. Good luck!
Yes, don't overlook tidying the room before filming. Homeowners can overlook this a lot and you spend time moving buckets of laundry or filming around around a mess in the kitchen. Good stuff! TFS!!
Great insights Myles.. Super happy that you took the time out to create such a detailed video. I'd love to see your editing and how you manage such. Also, what advice would you give for someone who doesn't yet have a portfolio to present to new prospects?
Thanks a lot! Obviously if it were me I’d try and make it a priority to shoot at a suitable property if at all possible. Otherwise if you have any connections already with anyone in the industry, that’d be massive if they could give you some work or a chance to shoot. Without a portfolio I’d imagine it’s really tough (I think it is already a competitive market) but maybe if you were able to get in by doing some free or heavily discounted work that might be an option?
Thank you so much for this great video! I am very new to videography. I recently bought a Ronin SC and Sony A6400 with the included 16-50 lens. I've been getting very frustrated by not being able to get those smooth, drone-like shots that I see on RU-vid. But in this video I found answers to many of the questions that I've had. Thank you very much again!
Fantastic video, well put together and some great artistry. I’d like to learn more about how and where to focus on for different shots, especially detailed shots like shower heads etc. Two thumbs up Myles. Mike from Canada
Thanks Mike! Good question, I think for me the ‘why’ to shoot details comes down to how important they are to the story of the house and if they help sell it. For example, some pretty flowers might be nice and visually pleasing but a close up of them might not be justified unless they’re conveying a specific feature or ethos of the house. Nice fixtures like showers might be worth showing if it enhances the feeling of quality and craftsmanship that buyers can expect throughout the house. In the example in this video, the house is designed to be eco-friendly so there are close ups of the technology. As for ‘how’ to do that, you can do whatever makes the most sense out of the gimbal or handheld shots I show in this video. All the best Mike!
Great video. A question that I can't seem to find the answer to is about Aperature. Barring situations whete rooms the are dark and may need the Apt opened to like 2.8 what should the Apt usually be? Clost to 8 like in real estate photography or is closer to 2 okay?
Thanks Zachary! There’s no one answer to that question I’m afraid! I think availability of light is the biggest factor to determine f stop, but if you can stop down when it’s bright then you can choose your aperture according to the depth of field you want. This will change between lenses and cameras, but wide lenses and smaller sensors give you deeper depth of fields at the same f stop. So on my GH5 using the Laowa 7.5mm my f stop could be 2.8 and I’d have everything in focus from something like a metre or two away from the sensor, which works fine for real estate. My advice would be to check your depth of field on your lens and camera using an online depth of field calculator, and play around with the f stops so you know how it impacts your depth of field and learn where the hyper focal distance is. On the shoot though you could just adjust aperture until you have the depth of field you want by looking at the viewfinder and confirming with focus peaking.
Thanks Myles for the detailed Indoor Real Estate video, would love to see more of your work, when your on location, do you ever shoot in Auto ISO or do you typically set the ISO according to light in the room?
Thanks for the comment! I never personally use auto ISO, I dial in my exposure before every shot. Someone recently just asked how to do a walkthrough of a house in one take, so in that case Auto ISO might be an option but otherwise I want full control!
I so love that there was an axe under the bed 😂 I think I need a faster wide angle lens - my oly 9-18 is breaking - manual focus only and only works at 9mm - I’m torn between the laowa 7.5 or forking for the 10-25mm 1.7 ... hmmm!
Haha why wouldn’t there be an axe there? I’m an idiot! The Laowa is fully manual but it’s fairly easy to focus for real estate because the DOF is enormous 🙂 the 10-25 sounds like a beast though if you wouldn’t miss the 2.5mm length! Haven’t you also got an S1? If you have a speed booster of some kind have you thought about something that might work on both?
Great video mate, with an enormous amount of good information. You should have a lot more subs. And who the hell sleeps with an axe under their bed! :) Regards, and subbed
You my friend are awesome! Thank you for this video, I need it a north and this is just what I need it, got some ideas off it and great tips too. Looking forward to more content from you. Thank you for making this video.
Can you share your Ronin D settings on the latest app ? There are a lot of variations but with the older app Pan & Tilt Follow ? Follow Speed Deadpan Sensitivity Push Mode Would really appreciate it Thanks for the video
Thanks Mona! Well for real estate I like the aperture to give a deep depth of field (high f number) but I’m limited by the available light. Obviously if it’s dark I can’t shoot f8 without making the ISO so high the image will look bad, so it’s a balance that depends on the camera :)
Really really great video.... I was greatly impressed mate. I am looking to get into this soon. I have a gh5, an osmo pocket and a mavic zoom... This has got me psyched.. Keep the videos coming love it
thanks for the info, really helpful. an tips on rooms that are large and the lighting can change from bright to dark and you still want that sweeping motion as you pan the room and it goes from light to darker, thanks?
Thanks Chris, that sounds like a tough one, if you have lighting I would try and add fill as shown in the video here, otherwise you could consider where the sun is going in case the conditions improve later in the day, failing both of those you’re a bit stuck and I’d expose to keep the bright areas in range which will make the darker areas dark. In that case I wouldn’t dwell on the darkness in the edit.
Hi Myles, thanks for this video. Really helpful. I have been asked to do a video for a property company and just wanted to do a quick edit of my own house to practice. My house is an old period place and so unless it’s beaming light it can be quite dark. I’m shooting on my gh5 and tokina 11-16 /2.8. Just wondered what f stop you film at to keep it all in focus on the gimbal. Ideally I need it at f4 and higher but this obviously darkens the footage. If I use it wide open the focus is too shallow. I would need to pump the ISO high to compensate on f4-5 but that gives too much noise. What would you recommend the best solution.Just about to buy your course. The v log log works great with a simple tweak and I then use a finishing lut. Cheers
The Laowa 7.5mm I used to use was so wide that the depth of field was big even at f2.8, so I didn’t worry about opening that wide and then everything but the close up stuff was in focus. Don’t forget if you’re careful with your motion you can slow down the shutter to 1/50 for 50P or 1/60 for 60P and get away with it for another stop of light. Good luck and thank you for the feedback!
Thanks a lot! On the Laowa 7.5mm I’m at infinity (or very close to it), I check focus using the camera’s peaking before I roll. I have a monitor but I’ve managed to miss focus with it before so because of that reduced benefit I don’t often use it. If you’re on the Laowa 7.5, I recommend you check out a depth of field calculator online to play with how much depth of field you get from different f stops. The hyper focal distance is very convenient to know too once you get used to thinking about it :)
@@ShotByMyles thanks for the info! Also please keep the content coming. Love all the videos you put out. Be nice to see an editing video for the house walk through if you get chance at some point 👍🏻
Also, do you end up using ND filters or is there enough scope on the lens/camera to get the 180 degree shutter rule? Been eyeing up this lens for a while. Need an excuse to get it on top of my 8-18! 😂
Great video ! How do you manage with vignetting of Laowa? What aperture do you usualy use and how to set focus? ( I’m thinking about laowa and pana 7-14 to buy with G9 for realestate video)
If it bothers you, you can do a reverse vignette to brighten the edges, or a an exposure adjustment with an inverted circular mask so that it only attacks the corners. I usually have it about f2.8 where almost everything is in focus when set to infinity! Good luck
