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How to finish vinyl siding at the top of a wall

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This is the most common method I use to finish vinyl siding at the top of a flat wall with an eave overhang (including installing the top piece of siding, F-Channel, vented soffit, double metal J-Channel miter, and finally aluminum fascia metal). In this method I utilize a slot punch tool in lieu of undersill to better hold the piece and to save the customer money by not having to purchase as much undersill trim.
Note: If the soffit and metal is already done or there isn’t enough room for the top piece of siding, I employ an alternative method where I use undersill at the top, because you’re unable to get the siding behind the F-Channel at that point. In short this is a soffit and fascia installation guide.
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00:00 - Measuring and cutting top rip
01:23 - Using slot punch
03:25 - Making a hole for a wire
03:53 - Installing the top piece
05:46 - Installing F-Channel
12:44 - Measuring and installing vented soffit, including miter
24:06 - Measuring, cutting and installing fascia metal "The End"

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15 авг 2024

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@nicolavirgilio7410 17 дней назад

Awesome work, A++! Thanks for sharing!! 🙏

@sidingschool 17 дней назад

Hey thanks for your comment! 😃

@attilahooper 3 дня назад

Very helpful. Good details. Thx

@sidingschool 3 дня назад

You’re welcome!

@87mustang347 Год назад

I’m filling confident that this channel is going to blow up in no time. Awesome awesome awesome. You know your stuff. Good job

@sidingschool Год назад

Thanks!

@loraleecantrell6670 Месяц назад

Thank you for this video… all of our siding is starting to fall off the top after having it replace in 2020 after a hail storm. After watching this video and looking at our siding, they just put a rubber adhesive or caulking to the top make it stick! The company we used is not longer in business of course.

@sidingschool Месяц назад

Oh that’s not good! Sorry to hear that! I made a different video on how to repair siding that keeps coming loose at the top. It may be more helpful in your situation where the soffit and fascia are already in place. Here’s a link to it: How to fix vinyl siding that is loose at the top ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dq_6hgZBm9E.html

@loraleecantrell6670 Месяц назад

Thank you!!!

@200cdl 11 месяцев назад

What would you do if you had 81/2 inches? I put a under sill and and it's just short, can I stack the Understill? I'd have to cut the yop of the round our to make work but I just doesn't work. So close

@sidingschool 11 месяцев назад

I hear you. I’ve run into similar situations and that’s why I prefer to put the F-Channel on top of the siding and forego the undersill altogether. But yeah, I’d double up on the undersill… it looks fine. Also, I’ve had to do J-channel and then double undersill before. Good luck! 😊

@chvydrptop Год назад

Great idea on the double j-channel vs making an h-channel. If you ever get a chance to video just doing and cutting that piece up would be great.

@sidingschool Год назад

You mean a demonstration on how to bend a metal J?

@chvydrptop Год назад

Measuring and cutting that to fit maybe a sketch. But might be a good video if you also added the bending of the j on a brake. That's the easy part.

@MrTooTechnical Год назад

Great vid. Use white screws. That way you will never need to return later when the nails work loose.

@sidingschool Год назад

Hey, you know what?… some self-tap white screws wouldn’t be a bad idea. The metal expansion and contraction will eventually loosen the nails. I always put one face nail on the seam and that very well may be why I’ve never seen one of my jobs lose a piece of metal.

@philipjones0630 8 месяцев назад

I dont understand why so many vinyl pros run soffit f over the siding. Obviously it looks cleaner, but using UT and J, or even just UT allows for everything to be easily replaceable

@sidingschool 8 месяцев назад

There’s a few reasons why I prefer to do it that way if possible. - The top pieces of siding are fastened in place and there’s no risk of them unclipping from undersill and falling out, as I’ve seen happen many times. - when the coursing lands in a bad spot (close to the rib) it is easier to just put the F-Channel on top of the siding rather than fight the rib or having to double up undersill and still having to use J-Channel - It is considerably less expensive to skip buying the extra trim pieces… I figure it saves a couple hundred dollars on a house. - It is arguably quicker, you’re not handling and nailing extra trim pieces. - Also, as you mentioned it is a cleaner look… but that is probably a matter of opinion. And lastly it is possible to leave the F-Channel, soffit and fascia metal in place when it comes time to re-side the house. It is a matter of carefully knifing the siding off flush with the bottom of the existing F-Channel… I’ve done this a few times and it works out fine. Thanks for your question!

@wcbscout Год назад

What kind of sheers you prefer? Didn't see in the vid what type. Maybe some shorts videos on your tools

@sidingschool Год назад

Hey, thanks for the idea! I use Andy siding snips that are made by Malco. Here’s a direct affiliate link to Amazon: amzn.to/3QD05Zv

@ozziestrom9793 Год назад

Nice, reminds me of the old days making your own soffit J-Mldg. We always added a hem on the lower bend, makes for a custom look, less wave. Only time we used alum. Soffit was on Commercial or rentals Insur. requirement. We stayed away from new work, builders always wanted something for nothing. 1st time subscriber. Where are you out of?

@sidingschool Год назад

Thanks for subscribing! I’m out of NH. And a hem on the bottom definitely helps a lot, but like you said most builders want it all for nothing. :) Have you done the method where you nail an L bend to the fascia first and then clip the hem of the fascia metal into the L? Maybe that’s what you were saying?

@briansdumbchannelderpy6986 Год назад

Keep at it and your subscribers are gonna blow up! I do have a question: is there any benefit or disadvantages to using aluminum or metal soffit as well?

@sidingschool Год назад

Thanks, I’ve been surprised at the growth already! I can’t really say that there would be a benefit to metal soffit imo. However, I could see how it may be more difficult to work with, nails may tend to bend over, if it’s snipped the clip may be pinched together and harder to clip in… just to think of a couple. There may be some benefits that I’m not aware of, but off the top of my head I don’t see any.

@briansdumbchannelderpy6986 Год назад

@@sidingschool thanks for the reply! Stay warm

@JohnVargas-ie6dc Год назад

The work you do is amazing The staple gun and what is the description of it where can I found it?

@sidingschool Год назад

Thanks! The make is Senco and the model is sls20 it uses a 3/8” crown 18 gauge staple which is not actually up to most vinyl manufacturers specifications for nailing. Most require a 16 gauge staple. So I don’t necessarily recommend using that stapler, although it is quite convenient for trim details (I switch to a 16 gauge paslode stapler for the siding). Here is an affiliate link if you’re interested in the senco, (you have to make sure to get the 3/8” crown, because they also make a 1/4” narrow crown stapler that is the same model number). amzn.to/3W9Ap8C More videos are coming!

@sidingschool Год назад

Also be sure to check your state and local building codes, as those can vary quite a bit depending on where you live. The 16 gauge stapler is a Paslode scs200 I think, but I’m having trouble finding the vinyl siding tip attachment that I have. Hope this helps!

@wcbscout Год назад

What type stapler and size staple you use? I have only nailed

@sidingschool Год назад

For trim and soffits I use a Senco sls20 that shoots an 18 gauge 3/8” crown staple. However most siding manufacturers require a minimum of a 16 gauge staple. For the siding I use a Paslode with a special vinyl siding tip, unfortunately it’s kind of hard to find…. Make sure to check your state and local codes for nailing requirements.

@johntalkington3208 Год назад

How about a video on how you start a siding job

@sidingschool Год назад

I have one coming soon. I’m gathering lots of video right now. Have to upgrade the laptop to assemble all of it, turns out 4k video takes a lot of processing power and memory. There’s a gable end I sided start to finish, but that’s 8 hours of footage… I’ll probably break it into 2 hour videos. Stay tuned and thanks for your feedback!

@GFRYORK Год назад

Like it!

@sidingschool Год назад

Thanks!

@D1vyang75 Год назад

Hi Brandon, how do I get the top vinyl attached to the top of the wall? I have no clearance to work and put nails. Every few years the top piece sags down and it opens up the joint How do I send you a picture here? Thanks

@sidingschool Год назад

I’m not sure how to send a picture here, you can send a pic to my email though sidingnuances at g mail. I’ll see if I can help you out.

@D1vyang75 Год назад

I have emailed you.

@sidingschool Год назад

Hmm… I don’t see it.

@D1vyang75 Год назад

@Siding School I had a spelling error in email address . I have resent it

@sidingschool Год назад

Sent you a reply, hope it helps!

@petersilvia4142 Месяц назад

where are you out of? - looking at the Belletetes house wrap

@sidingschool Месяц назад

I’m in the Jaffrey, NH area 😊

@petersilvia4142 Месяц назад

@@sidingschool you ever come out to the Bedford area?

@sidingschool Месяц назад

I have went there to get cortisone shots in my back at NH Neurospine. Then to Manchester a couple weeks ago for back surgery. I did do a job in Amherst about 8 years ago. So yep I’ve been in the area a bit! And I’ve even done work around there too! 😊

@petersilvia4142 Месяц назад

@@sidingschool I'm a frequent flyer at the NH Neurospine - 3 fusions down - I am a builder in Bedford and am always looking for good subs - would you be interested in quoting work?

@sidingschool Месяц назад

Sorry to hear that! I’m still a month + away from being able to work. I’d be interested in taking a look at some plans. You can send plans to Brandonconstructs at gmail

@outcast7899 Год назад

Where do you find aluminum soffit now?

@sidingschool Год назад

Hi Outcast, my supplier (ABC Supply here on the east coast) would most likely be able to get aluminum soffit (so if you're looking for aluminum soffit you could check with a local siding contractor or siding supplier... it shouldn't be too hard to find). The soffit I used in this video is vinyl. The fascia metal I formed out of .019 aluminum coil stock using my metal brake.

@outcast7899 Год назад

@@sidingschool Thanks

@davidmiller7994 Год назад

Never could figure out why would you spend all that money on a house then wrap it with plastic

@sidingschool Год назад

Everyone is on a budget unfortunately, Fiber Cement would be at least double what vinyl costs (at least in this area of the country).

@ryanmcgowan9199 Год назад

modern vinyl products have come a long way from the stereotype of the 90s. the nice thing about vinyl is the material is much more resilient than you would expect so if the installer fudges up its an easier fix, wheras if your installer fudges up on some hardie and invalidates the warranty, enjoy it. fiber cement also looks more or less the same as modern vinyl once its been painted. the fly ash stuff like from true exterior looks decent but then once they paint it you might as well have gone with vinyl because there wouldn't be nail holes all over your house that you have to caulk

@stevebabiak6997 Год назад

Too bad they didn’t want mounting blocks for those wire penetrations.

@sidingschool Год назад

Yeah, I agree. But that’s fairly common around where I live. They either do surface mounts which have the profile of the siding contour or they just mount direct to the siding… it saves them a few bucks.