HOW TO FIX A STEEP DOWNSWING 

The notion of focusing on thumb position is so much more helpful than the instructions I’ve received in the past which asked more for “feel” of the position of the club head. I found the latter much more difficult to internalize.

Chris I've been studying steep swings for 2 years now,,, that said that was the best instructional video I ever seen !!!!! Ty very much greatly appreciated!!! Putting it into action tomorrow ty again !!! Awesome ,,, kevin from New York!!!

Love the way you show the effect on the golf club. Very helpful!

Hey Chris, just wanted to say really enjoy your tips and instruction. Would love to see you include more slow motion breakdowns on the points you are covering. I think it would help us more clearly visualize some of the more complex concepts..Thanks Dale

Great video Chris. All 3 tips will help amazingly but very difficult to do all in one. But that's the way to go. Thanks a lot

I've heard each one of these individually from different RU-vid but not all at once. Definitely the correct things to do because I see most good golfers doing them. I just can't get myself to do them, I have the mental picture and I can do it in slow motion but not on a real swing. I almost always revert to the old steep swing violating all the tips you've given. How do I force my body to do this on a real shot? Electroshock therapy maybe?

One of the better videos I’ve seen about this topic!

I will definitely give this a try Chris I videoed my swing in the top of my back swing is perfect but boy do I get steep on the way down

This is pure gold ... love the thumb idea ... thanks Chris

As one who "loves" to push the ball right, this should be a great help. Thanks!

I'm doing the matt wolf drill just taking the club wayyyy across the line and trying to hit the ball right or snap hook it...clearly I dont play like that but its a good feel

This is brilliant advice. Really fixed my steep swing, thank you!

Thank you for this. This helped out my game so much!

That logo tip is fabulous!

Fantastic thumbage tips! Struggling with steep out to in swings. Hopefully this will help 🤞

Another good video very well explained.

Bang on for me. Lack of side bend and starting my swing with my upper body is causing me to be too steep, and have an outside in path. Thanks for the insight

Great break down video! I am trying to undo all of these 😂I've made good progress on my weight transfer and side bend but I can still see my lead forearm rotation steepens the shaft as does my arm sticking to my chest for too long. Been making good progress just by doing drill work without hitting balls but the shallowing/forearm rotation is tough!

Thank you once again Chris---

This is better than what I gotten from lessions! The local pro told me that my backswing is too steep, but never told me about the thumb movement. Does it also apply to driver as well?

Great tips Chris nice and simply explained

I’m steeper coming down than I am taking it back. (When my arm is parallel to the ground). This should help. Thanks!

Great concepts to think about. Thx

So at the start of the downswing you add some lead forearm pronation. Makes sense. But to come back to impact, you're going to need to have some lead forearm supination, right? Seems like a lot of forearm rotation. I don't feel that, but probably the reason I send my shots off to the right a lot! Thanks for the video.

You have a beautiful swing, Bromeister.......

Just had an instructor tell me the exact same thing. Plus as was only completing a partial turn back. The full turn plus these three things are key. Like any swing changes it’s gonna take time. I’ll start off with punch shots and work my way into the full swing. Hopefully the dreaded over the top move will eventually disappear.

The genius of it is how beautifully simple he just made this....

The tip I got for fixing this problem for me was to imagine a set of railroad tracks leading toward the target and on my backswing I should bring the club back along the outside rail. Everything will fall into place after that. Somehow worked for me.

Thanks Chris, can’t wait to practice on driving range.

I truly believe that there isn’t enough time to think of one thing, and definitely not 3 different moves on the downswing. I believe what I do in my backswing dictates the entire downswing. I commented before the end of video and you said the same thing. Sorry I should have realized you would bring that up.

Need help with this. Thanks

Got to get the hands low. I’m shallow but over the top. Got a rather crazy swing tbh. Through all the manipulation. Always heard shallow club. I got a natural shallowing of the club it’s almost like a flinch or a release/regrip of the club but my hands stay high and weirdly if I want it to turn over I can get a right to left flight but usually in a hook. I do get a slice also but I’ve manipulated my swing so much that 90 percent of my swings are a hook, with driver. I’m pretty good and happy with all my other clubs. I just get so far off with driver that Im taking alot of unnecessary strokes getting out of trouble.

Question, flattening is important but as far as the left arm peeling away, most teachers these days want you to pin the left arm to the chest. For example, put a glove between the left arm and chest and maintain it until you hit the ball. In fact, saw player on the driving range at pebble beach using that drill and the commentators pointing this out. If you peel, that's a different approach right i.e. you are not pinning it.

Chris, thanks for posting. I have seen many instructional videos that componentise the backswing, but based on my personal experience and those of my sons both of whom who have been playing since young toddlers (who were never taught to do anything specific in their backswing or downsing), my view of a fundamentally sound backswing is that it's one movement. It should be no more complex than a baseball batter taking the bat back or a tennis player taking the racquet back, just one movement. I think what you are noting are observations of what appear to be happening in a backswing, but I'd say this is only because of our visual perception. I disagree with the way you described rotation, and perhaps it's what explains your open clubface , i.e. slight fanning out in the takeaway as well as being slight under the plane (my analysis might not be 100% accurate however, given I relied on 0.25 play speed). I think the main reason golfers get steep in the backswing is because of the failure to properly coil, which leads to incorrect sequencing of uncoiling, i.e. not starting from the ground up and the urge to hit at the ball, rather than swing through it. I am no golf coach, but I have been through quite a few over many years and I can tell you that the drill such as flattening the shaft only has a minor cosmetic effect without addressing the root cause, but having said that I do acknowledge that this might have a more beneficial outcome for other golfers. Justin Rose is very mechanical and he breaks down his swing in detail in one of his videos but I think such microanalysis of a golf swing is what destroys so many amateurs who try to reproduce the elusive swing seen on TV, RU-vid, Insta, etc at the driving range. I think what would benefit golfers including myself is an understanding of the underlying reasons for a problem and solutions that address the problem at the root. Cheers. David from Melbourne, Australia.

What if I have too much side bend?

Chris won’t rotating the wrist that way leave the club face open?

Funny thing is my driver dispersion is great. I get a high straight flight. Average carry is 230 yards which I'm happy with. I'm not the longest but if I miss my aim line by 10 yards I'm annoyed lol. I can't hit irons, fairway Woods or hybrids. Yet I'm good with my wedges. I basically have no middle of my bag.

There’s one hole I used to hit it right into the tree line, now I’m hitting it left into the tree line. I can get lucky sometimes and carry the trees but I’m down another fairway. It’s 327 to the green. I’ve got myself in line with the green a couple times but then I have a chip uphill 30 yards with about a 15-20 foot uphill bunker in frontside. I did manage my first ever eagle doing so but it’s dangerous. Because I’m blocked out of the people coming up the other fairway and I just want this out of my game because I don’t want to blindly hit that fairway

Is there any hand wrist action just before impact?

I have side bend and my downswing is still extremely steep

Why not just rotate the forearm more in the backswing?

if you have a good backswing and did nothin wit d arms on the downswing would this happen naturally chris

Thumb and logo - you've just cured a 20 year slice!

I'd love to see you do a partner video with Mike Malaska (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UGqfWJFN-vI.html) who believes the clubhead should be tipped out at the beginning of the downswing. C'mon over to the USA and visit with Mike!

This is me to a T