How to fix GPU sag ONCE AND FOR ALL! FREE! 

LMAO.

Lmfao

That's not even hard right now Ahhaha. :(

You’ve had a year to get one bro

@@juan2049 Do you have one yourself ?

No kidding, I thought a 30 second vid but same point made

Isn't there a time threshold for monetization (10 min, i think)?

@@nhf7170 there is not.

@@nhf7170 there is for ad rolls i think. Used to be 10 now its 8?

That’s why I’m glad RU-vid added the Most Watched feature in the timeline

So true. When I set up my first pc, I handled everything like I was doing open heart surgery. Probably still gonna do it anyway. Might as well ensure nothing bad happens to my 1000$ gpu

Because when he breaks it he got dozens of spare parts lying around. Do you?

gpu sag it needs a pull up bra🤣🤣🤣

Yea, I put a popsicle stick in mine. A little black magic marker and it looks and works great!

Could have be a short...

cos Jay digresses way too much

Another reason I stopped watching this channel often.

@@bhavzm9035 same

He just wanted to make sure to tell the people what actually is the problem with manufacturers and why they are sagging sure he could speak faster here and there but its a good video showing the problems wirh the 30 series aftermarkets

yeah ;\

Saved 5 more minutes of agony, thanks bro

You doing God's work ...

king

good idea needs some sort of compensation

Not a bad idea in itself and I've no doubt that it works, but putting not-designed-for stress on the power connectors (and thus the PCB) might potentially be an issue (at worst e.g. causing a crack in the PCB or connector soldering point). No idea if this could actually be a problem, but just thought I'd mention it. 🙂

I connected the psu cables (850x) by using upside way so it hold the gpu up.

This is what I did before I bought a GPU support bracket, the extra 13$ is much worth it, they have cheaper as well just wanted Antec to match the case, I've seen some for 6$

I've seen something like that being sold by caseking a couple years back but it's gone now. All I see now are the goofy support sticks.

Or they could just you know, make them better in the first place?

Msi gaming x trio 3070 I got came with one.

My Palit 3080ti did which was nice. Didn't need it 'cos it's vertically mounted but it was nice lol

Just bought the same 3090 but the OC edition, not the Gundam edition. It doesn't sag out of the box.

My RTX 3070TI Suprim X came with a stand. And I'm happy i did. It's way too heavy without stand 🥲

Tell me where do you get that stuff 🤣

I believe that's known as the Bezos method

But if the support sags, wouldn't it still sag? 🤣🤣

@@kyoudaiken The pandemic has made me jaded and sarcastic maybe...?

@@squallloire He just uses a bottle of gamer's tears.

naa. we don't need to do anything. Nvida and AMD need to build them better!

@@DC-te1gw I mean yeah they could charge $10 more and provide a better "frame" for the GPU components to sit in/on but in the meantime I would recommend aftermarket options that support the GPU the way it needs to be supported.

@@pompulousify or just lay your PC on its side. Problem solved for free 😅

No you're not, all this does is restore proper support to the GPU same as previous gen 20 series cards. The only reason GPU support brackets and stands exist is to fix the sag without addressing the root cause.

Where are you getting pieces of hard rubber?

Yup, got to cut out as much metal and plastic as physically possible to save pennies per product because. it looks good to save thousands over thousands of units.... So long as the customer doesn't complain or they can get sued over it.

Tbh, the sag problem is an aesthetic one, not a functional one (if the card is properly designed). So the product isn't really worse, it's just less pleasing and many people don't even care about that.

@@jorgeaura2890 Except it causes strain on both the connection for the card AND motherboard since it means there is weight being placed upon something that is intended purely as a connection point for electronics and not as support.. AKA your PCI slot. Over time it can bend the pins and loosen the PCI slot from the board.

@@SilvaDreams The trick that Jay proposes doesn't address this. He's simply pre-sagging the gpu so that it looks level with the case. And I think that both the motherboards and gpus are designed wih this sag in mind.

@@jorgeaura2890 the trick he proposes absolutely does fix this. It isn't putting extra strain on the PCI slot, or if there is any it's much much less. he's not simply pre sagging the GPU so it looks level with the case. He's making it so it can't sag like that. Not sure if you watched the same video as us tbh.

probably little bit of both XD

At least he doesn't drop 'em.

He did say in another video he has like 4 EVGA 3090s

All I know, is that if I were wiggling with a card like that I'd probably be replacing a motherboard and a gpu. That's how my luck usually goes. This sure did make me cringe though.

i mean it would only kill the pcie slot on the motherboard in the worst case scenario, not a super hard fixed

But still has a 15min video. It's informative with comparison and all but timestamps surely wouldn't hurt

@@riingo9795 Amen to that!!! Jesus I feel like this could have been a YT short or something with more people watching

Except it took like 12 minutes to get to the point

There's three minutes of useful advice. The rest exists for advertisement revenue and it's annoying.

I mean they used to come with SLI bridges, and a anti sag bracket sounds infinitely more useful.

I think it will kinda like be the case of apple not including chargers at their phones - even if you include one when shipping them out, the custom vga bridge market is becoming quite big, and people who actually care to get one better than cut off chopsticks and lego bricks would throw them away anyway. I think it would be cool for vga sellers to inculde them with cards tho, as the price tier would be way higher than cases and it would make sense for them to throw in something that costs like 20$ to make.

The center of mass for a high-end is so far away from any of it's mounting points anti-sag bracket (or an adjustable standoff) seems like something mandatory at this point.

no...but they can not include it, then turn around and sell you it to you. much like iphones/samsungs with the chargers.

Because most people won’t care, like they don’t care about sleeved psu extenders.

Yeah I just came to post this, ain't no way I'm prodding that little clip with a screwdriver in case it slips, hell I'm ever nervous pressing it with my hand. I guess he has enough money to the point it would just be a little oopsie.

F that 10$ 😂 Rip bro

I got a dope v1tech bracket, but this would've been nice too 😂

I got an ezdiy fab bracket but can't install it since the screws that come w it don't fit in my case...

I actually like my sag bracket. It compliments my build. Might have to try Jay's method with my son's PC. It has a EVGA 2080 Super that sags like crazy

Does it have RGB?

Completely agree. Even if the gpus were designed more sturdy it would still put stress on the MB on the pcie slot.

Not entirely it's. stil the fact your put your parts on the side! just why would you do that.! look at Click image to open expanded view Thermaltake Level 20 VT, or the HAF Evo from cool master, or Silvertones horizontal cases. some of Azz have horizontal stuff going on to!. putting everything on the side like this is dumb.

Although, thick heavy gpus have been around for many years now. Motherboard manufacturers have had plenty of time to adapt, but haven't. Honestly, not sure what the motherboard manufacturers can do, this is mostly a card and case issue. Jay shows how the cheap construction of the cards is leading to the sag. They need to design the cards with alot more support at the point of mount

Giant gpus and other aibs have been a thing for awhile. This is demonstrably card manufacturers being cheap.

@@gorkskoal9315 I agree, I have a true desktop case, as the slots were designed for, a CM HAF EVO, when the Mobo is horizontal and the GPU is vertical straight above it, the weight is all supported, nothing is stressed.

Lego column gang represent

Yeah I mean if the cooler is gonna take up that slot anyway. Just add that metal piece...

EVGA really went out of their way to use the crappiest bracket possible to give us clown lips on the back of the card.....

@@Instanewt Bingo!!! My 1080ti looked nice/classy... and then they went Fugly on the 3080's so I went Asus Strix... Still like EVGA Modular Power supplies however... and they have great CS... but shoulda canned whomever designed their 30 series cards...

Can i have it?

the only reason that I can think of is, that if you watercool the card, you would go down to 2 slots.. Just that you can't use the bottom slot for SLI anyways since they removed that option from most of the new cards anyways.

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most people probably still have their GPUs hidden inside the case so it never mattered before but now everyone has a lightshow going on in their PC case and something like a saggy component became noticeable when they weren't before.

@@Freneticburn It's not so much that it never mattered but more that it never really was an issue. Only in the last few years have GPU's grown to the huge sizes they are these days. There may have been a rare model but that's it. So the majority of builders didn't face GPU sag in their builds.

Much easier to market big shiny lights to a bunch of kids.

Crazy thing is, you'll never see the cooler, because it's at the bottom of the card. Unless you're like me, and have an inverted PC, then you can admire it's glory and don't have to worry about sag either!

Sa(gge)d RGB

Ppl are the prob. Ppl keep buying garbage from the manafacturers so manafacturers are happy to oblige 🤷‍♂️

Wonder if this is a problem in Asian markets or are they just shaving off weight where they deem it unnecessary to save $ for US shipping costs. They can't be that blatantly stupid can they? It would take me 3 minutes on Autocad to fix this across every board partner.

It seems like a good idea, but I digress.

He said it while I was reading this comment 😂

I digress

LOL want to split the proffits? how much do you think we'd make?

Used multiple times in every video haha

I love my girls 3070 Double S

can't upvote cause 69

I love your videos!

Photoshop your GPU straight. Quick and easy, and most of all, unless you bought Photoshop, it's free ;)

Sagging is normal. You just have to make sure it doesn't get so bad that it dips into the water.

If you let the card sag, then the PCIe connector can crack at the part that clips into the motherboard slot. Then companies will deny warrenty.

@@GodKitty677 I just used the GPU holder, is it safe? I mean, is it possible to gpu holder broke the vga case?

Its really nice If the case is fully black you wont even see the brackets.

that's kind of you

Already designed and printed mine few months ago, but the thickness is probably the "trickiest" thing to get just right. So if you upload it I´d suggest varying it by 1mm each :D

@@SaleBosancheros Or print it too high and then do some subtractive manufacturing to fit.

@@Torchedini Sure but I prefer my top layer to be top notch hahaha, jk for me 3.5mm worked out and they are very very fast to print, trying to find stl as of now to share it

Is it done? I can not proceed with my current project until you have this finished and uploaded, sir.

just remember to shim and fill that void so no gpu sag and your system will look awesome and no need to worry that your gpu pcb might crack either nip that issue in the butt before it can happen so it does not happen

Why not sell with two brackets. One 2 slot & one 3 slot 🤷.

@@niklasbergvall9656 screw-on brackets....include both of them in the box..and the buyer will fit the one that he wants ;-)

its called making money

Jay just made a video covering this exact thing, good job spotting this a year prior

Same with Mac Pro.

with the variety of cases it's become impossible to do so... like 15 years ago you still had midi-cases that also supported the rails you're talking about, but those are only for full-sized AT/ATX expansion cards, which are VERY big, about the same size as the longer side of a regular ATX motherboard. Also i remember having such a card back in the mid '90s and it was hell for cabling. I remember having to buy extra long flat-cables for my hard drives and optic drives because my regular sized cables were too short as i had to route them around the topside of that full-length expansion card i had.

Most business oem PCs still build like this. Some even have a locking mechanism

And it's not even a new thing with conumer cards. I remember that my 13 year old HD 4870 was sagging like crazy. Must be around that time that cards got pretty heavy and you could buy little standoffs to support the back end of the card from below.

@@BoGy1980 They're not that big. ~335mm, which is comparable to many graphics cards these days.

Seriously I wince everytime Linus, Jay or Paul installs a 30 series card one handed lol

@@tw1tch09 Why? They're experts. Each one of them has already installed more graphics cards during their careers than any of us ever will in a lifetime. I'm not worried about it at all, they know what they're doing. Except maybe Linus, he might drop it. 😏

Are you implying theyre somehow more flexible than others pc parts? They dont flex any more or less than consumers lol.

@@AvocadoBondage I suppose one could argue they tend to re-use boards and cards, installing and removing them multiple times. The slots and connectors could feasibly have more wear and tear than most consumer parts that get installed once and largely left alone. I do find everything looks like it installs effortlessly, while I know my parts and even PSU connectors were all quite snug in my latest fresh build.

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Sometimes, the simple solutions are just the best.

u know what's an easier fix ? Lego. I just prop up my 2080ti on a support I designed.

It did not work. You owe me a plug.

Sure is a lot more elegant than the acrylic pole tenting mine into position.

The problem isn't PCIe. The amusing fact is, if PCIe 32 becomes a thing, the slot will be long enough to offer much better support. The issue is that in GPU manufacturers went the route of speeding up the cards by increasing their power draw, and thus heat generation, requiring massive heatsinks to deal with the problem. My 4070ti is actually quite a small card, but 70% of its mass is the cooling solution. You can mitigate the issue by putting a waterblock on the card, but this isn't exactly the cheapest or easiest thing to do.

but what happen if i use my pc open...

@@zamfielis thats not smart to begin with

😂😂

:D

I still run two cases from Aopen that are built like that. Yes they are beige. Yeah, a super tower is a weird case to build a modern system in.

@@sparkyenergia no judgement here! I’d love to build a Beige Beast lol

Also that their adhesive can handle the heat in the long term

Same, but I used fishing line attached to the plug of the power cable.

been done. noone appreciates da chinese

I can't see that being a popular idea. First off it'd be more difficult to showcase your hardware, second the desk footprint would be enormous. It was fine back when you could just stick it under your CRT monitor that was the size of a microwave, not so much now.

If cards really get that big, I think case manufacturers will add an integrated gpu mount with riser support before this happens.

Only if you were doing one of those Desk Pc's like Linus did...

It’s my foot rest 🤣

@@LyK0sa Right, to showcase your hardware to... absolutely nobody but yourself. This fad of having super showy setups is nothing short of narcissistic.

Underrated comment. lmao

@@CRSolarice You're absolutely right. It's funny how ideas float around then return. Back in the olden days, the issue was solved by using a channel to support the PCB along its edge near the front of the case. This worked well until cards were pulled in and out carelessly breaking the plastic channel or popping it out of its mounts. When that occurred, the cards would sag and cause problems with the motherboard such as the ones I mentioned. I ran into many motherboards that had ripped connectors and pulled etches. Sadly, once that occurred it was quicker to scrap the board than it was to repair it which could be done using buss-wire and solder. This latter part wouldn't be possible today due to the high frequencies we find with our computer busses. Back then things were in the Khz and low Mhz range. The other issue we face today is computers are not all the same size and not all are manufactured in factories like Dell, Lenovo, and HP. Today, we have enthusiasts putting machines together with various sized cases and motherboards, making a one size fits all solution impossible.

@@CRSolarice I'm not much further behind you. I currently have an i7-5860. I agree going for the latest and greatest isn't necessary and I too go for the "new stuff" later usually to let the crowds pay for the hardware development and work the bugs out before I come along and get the stable hardware for a lot less than they paid for it. Right now, I am looking to replace my system because I lost some USB ports on my motherboard. I powered up my PC and the keyboard and mouse didn't work and neither did my backup drive. I jiggled wires, but that didn't do it. After a second reboot and replaced keyboard and mouse, the system booted, and the hard drive appeared but the system can't find 3 USB ports. My 1080 TI and RAM still works and so do my hard drives. I'll get another motherboard, one with a faster chip and move my RAM, hard drives, and video card over to that. In the 1970s I was building electronic kits and instead of becoming a music major like I originally planned (parents said NO!), I got into electronics instead. I headed initially to engineering but found tech stuff more fun and eventually landed in the hardware tech field testing and repairing circuit boards until those jobs went overseas. Today, given my eyesight, I'm not even sure I could do it because the components and everything is the size of ants. The stuff I worked with were the typical 70s and 80s equipment with little surface mounted components. I repaired disk drive controllers, modems, video terminals, and all kinds of memory cards, I/O controllers and comms cards. I learned a lot too and came to the conclusion that even the stuff we have today is still the same as yesterday except smaller, faster, and more delicate. Your concern is a big one because that can ruin the sockets eventually as I saw in the ancient hardware with cards not supported. Some of those systems had what we referred to as board packs. These were multiple boards that plugged into a single one via riser connectors and ribbon cables. This made a heavy pack, about as heavy as those new video cards. Without that extra support on one edge, that would eventually pull out of the socket and sometimes ruin the motherboard or backplane depending upon which style system these were in. Laying down your case isn't such a bad thing. The problem is It will be absolutely terrible you won't be able to see those blinking lights! We'll have to commiserate over a beer someday on that one. 🙂

@@CRSolarice excellent comment.

yeah same with the 7990 i had. i miss that card soo much! legit best card i have ever had