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How to Fix Silver Snow 

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Silver Snow is easily the least original route in all of Fire Emblem Three Houses. With almost no exclusive content and a really bland story, there is currently no reason to play Silver Snow (other than to unlock Funeral of Flowers, which is actually really good).
This video will discuss the current state of Silver Snow and its many problems. Then, I attempt to revise the route so that it is a more original and (hopefully) enjoyable experience. This new route includes a playable Rhea, two brand new chapters, and a revision of some of the clone levels from Verdant Wind. The story focuses on Rhea learning to accept the loss of her people and gaining the courage to return to her life as Saint Seiros.

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@Armads4Prez
@Armads4Prez 4 года назад
CORRECTION: Silver Snow was developed before Verdant Wind, so saying Silver Snow is a copy is misleading. Its more accurate to call Silver Snow “an inferior version” of Verdant Wind, which is the main point I was trying to make. Thanks to the comments that pointed this out
@CatManThree
@CatManThree 3 года назад
"Inferior version" is kind of stretching since VW is essentially just Silver Snow with Claude thrown into it and a random ass unrelated endgame.
@Armads4Prez
@Armads4Prez 3 года назад
@@CatManThree The two routes aren't that different, but Verdant Wind does have an exclusive character with unique classes and one more chapter than Silver Snow. Also Claude being the protagonist helps the story a great deal imo. Silver Snow has almost no exclusive content outside of its final map.
@CatManThree
@CatManThree 3 года назад
@@Armads4Prez Yeah gameplaywise it was definitely lacking for various reasons. Storywise it could have been WAY better but its nothing offensively bad. I definitely don't agree that Verdant Wind is better though. Way I see it is Verdant Wind is tragically disappointing and suffers immensely from the copy paste of a route that has nothing to do with it. That's just my opinion though.
@elpopman2055
@elpopman2055 3 года назад
Armads4Prez based on Cindered Shadows they might as well made as well expanded that into The 5 path because the DLC does not even line up with the main story.. the Ashen wolves do not even recognize the Professor and the Ashen wolves do not even know that much about each other's history.. compared to the DLC that Ashen Wolves in the Cindered Shadows were more familiar and closer to each other. Another valid point is that the Ashen Wolves Considered Byleth, Dimitri, Claude, Edelgard, Ashe, Hilda, Linhardt Friends.. Do Not Get Me Started With Jeralt He Would Be furious with Rhea Regarding Sitri.😂😂😂 It Would makes Things Worse or Rhea have No Choice to Reveal Everything about Sitri and Byleth. Do Not Get Me Wrong, i Like The DLC.. But It Could Of Been More if it Was More Consistent... realistically speaking Tje DLC is just as Canon as the other four paths.. we basically have 5 timelines.. 6 if Rhea ends up Dying in Sliver Snow if You Do Not A Support her... 7 If Do Not Dedue paralogue in Blue Lions Route.. If Do Not Dedue Does Not Survive The Timeskip. I do not see how it's possible for a sequel to Made unless they give it the Ocarina of Time treatment and Sequels Based On Three Houses Paths... That Could Potentially profit. However the Crimson flower ending makes No Sense.. I feel It Would Make sense oz Rhea Was Overwhelming Byleth and Edelgard.. Forcing Byleth To Overtax The Crest of Flame To Deal The Finishing Blow On Rhea.... But as Result Of Overtaxing it.. The Creststone Is Destroyed....Byleth survived because of His partial Natabean heritage and Being Sothis Vessal.... Meanwhile Sothis who partially remebering the past comfort and Guide The Departed Souls killed in Battle and proceed gives Rhea A Long Tongue Lashing on How Damage She Did.. But Gives Her Some Love in Seeing Her Daughter again.. Only to reprimand her again For An Idiot.... Cycle Repeats.
@lord6992
@lord6992 3 года назад
I just wanted adult flayn damn
@patronofdragons
@patronofdragons 3 года назад
Seteth as Rhea's retainer could have been fun, especially if they dig into their sibling relationship.
@aaronr.265
@aaronr.265 3 года назад
I like how the best way to fix Rhea is to give her a version of Dimitri’s character arc
@eevee1583
@eevee1583 3 года назад
Dimitri's character arc is great
@bobkingofham6296
@bobkingofham6296 3 года назад
It is truly, but still is not absolutely perfect
@BioMatic2
@BioMatic2 3 года назад
@@eevee1583 the execution of ch 17 could use some polish. Also the bigger point is that different characters should have diferent arcs to appeal to diferent aspects of people or to diferent people entirely . No matter how good Dimitris arc is , you are gonna lose people if you just keep repeating it with diferent characters.
@cyncynshop
@cyncynshop 3 года назад
Similar arc is great, Rhea's mind is harder to be changed after all these years. Dimitri is still impressionable for he is younger.
@Zekken_The_Lodestar
@Zekken_The_Lodestar 3 года назад
And make her playable.
@keithgawain3614
@keithgawain3614 3 года назад
"Is there anyone else she could fight?" Uh...After Edelgard, I guess no- *God Shattering Star begins* OHHHHHHHHH Ngl, that'd be pretty freaking cool
@alexanderwidmar2850
@alexanderwidmar2850 3 года назад
lmao
@Combat6271
@Combat6271 5 месяцев назад
The greatest music piece of all time plays
@rosesongoku6980
@rosesongoku6980 3 года назад
I wanted Rhea to be playable.
@angellexgamer5416
@angellexgamer5416 3 года назад
Imagine in the last battle Macuil & Indech come to Rhea to help since it’s no longer the war they never wanted to be in & now a fight against the man that killed their brethren.
@gallalameblook9911
@gallalameblook9911 3 года назад
@@angellexgamer5416 well even if Claude's Paralogue where Macuil is killed is obviously exclusive to VW, Linhardt's and Leonie's Paralogue where you defeat Indech could be done here too so I don't think it would be possible
@angellexgamer5416
@angellexgamer5416 3 года назад
@@gallalameblook9911 In Claude’s paralouge, Macuil is not killed. Immediately after his defeat Claude indicates that he is sleeping and they decide to take the Sword of Berguia while he is asleep. Indech was testing Leonie & Linhart (Though of course showing no mercy) so there could actually be some interesting dialogue with them if the Paralouge is done. Besides I believe they could turn a blind eye to ally with the team this once to kill the person to was directly involved in the masacre of their people.
@ramos4461
@ramos4461 3 года назад
I wanted to walk with you...
@fishnutz5196
@fishnutz5196 3 года назад
If we got Serios version of Rhea as a lord for Silver Snow then i would actually play it haha. Playing Black Eagles then losing the 2 hardest hitting units is just bad haha
@moltz4866
@moltz4866 4 года назад
One big issue Silver Snow has is that it's core concept would've worked really well if the game didn't have multiple routes. Because as it stands, it was doomed to be inferior when the other paths by comparison don't sacrifice anything content-wise.
@eternalposts680
@eternalposts680 2 года назад
Having Macuil, Indech, and Rhea as exclusive characters would be great.
@aphato2770
@aphato2770 3 года назад
"Seteth is weaker than the other lords." He is born to be a Wyvern lord, I don't know why you want more overkill
@slothz5063
@slothz5063 3 года назад
I sent my seteth to edelgard's map alone and started skipping enemy and player turns. Only he remained. Absolutely insane, maybe its because he has Dio's voice actor in Japanese dub... Yes that might be why.
@Avengedtenfold
@Avengedtenfold 3 года назад
Seteth is also way, WAY better in Hunting by Daybreak than Dimitri as a Wyvern Lord. He'll probably get swift strikes during the map (assuming you didn't farm him up to A spear pre-timeskip like I did) and Flying Mount is way better than being land locked since you can fly up on walls to limit the melee attacker bum rush.
@jackpurches3558
@jackpurches3558 3 года назад
All so Seteth (for me at least) was very bulk he had health in the 60 and on the final chapter he took like 10 damage from the church soldier. (This was on hard by the way)
@tahamohammad8842
@tahamohammad8842 3 года назад
They did somehow go more overkill. He’s one of only 3 characters that learns the broken swift strikes combat art(other 2 are Ferdinand and Sylvain)and he starts extremely strong
@nadhirasatria6432
@nadhirasatria6432 3 года назад
he is literally.a saint. the goddess' son.
@johncuneo6723
@johncuneo6723 4 года назад
As someone who loves three houses, I would definitely play through your version of Silver Snow in a heartbeat, and I’d love to see your takes on fixing the other routes. I would’ve really liked to see Edelgard & Byleth face off against TWSITD, and a different final boss for Claude’s route would be neat (though Nemesis was still cool).
@astral-daughter8742
@astral-daughter8742 3 года назад
I would be down for a fixed Silver Snow. I really like how you made Rhea feel very ashamed but soon change in order to redeem herself and take back Fodlan. Great job man
@phoenix5054
@phoenix5054 3 года назад
Make Rhea an Archbishop/Saint class: with Aura, Abraxas, and Purge.
@soundwave1479
@soundwave1479 3 года назад
It would be interesting if you could also have her transform into her dragon form that might just be me though
@CritXB
@CritXB 3 года назад
@@soundwave1479 No I agree too playable monsters sound awesome
@platinumblaze3663
@platinumblaze3663 3 года назад
@@CritXB I can picture Ashe (Yes. I'm an idiot) or Raphael or Petra becoming a demonic beast if they ever touch Heroes Relics. Their Crit Hit Quotes could still work, except more echoey like Manaketes such as Corrin and Tiki and more malfested
@Ansytea
@Ansytea 3 года назад
I wish they made a special class like that for her like how Edelgard got Armored Lord, Dimitri got High Lord, and Claude got Barabossa (am i spelling that right). Plus, it would've been cool if there was one Manakete in the game. I personally think Rhea could've been a dragon that can only control her powers for a bit with a dragonstone and only goes into a full-on boss mode when she's in a draconic rage :'//
@Saltyoven
@Saltyoven 3 года назад
@Noah Avshalom Canonically, Rhea can instruct you in Swords, Reason, Faith, and Brawling.
@PolitoedLink
@PolitoedLink 3 года назад
The Silver Snow route in game feels like a fanfiction: "You're so smart and strong and hot *insert your name here*, would you marry my daughter?" I know that Byleth is meant to be a silent protagonist (self-insert) but the lack of a lord to ground the story makes this more obvious
@Andreu0rtin
@Andreu0rtin 3 года назад
Honestly Seteth is my favourite character in all of Three Houses. I think he has depth and presence to spare. The problem is that SS isn't about him, he is tangentially affected but he isn't one of the main players in the story. I think the idea was to make Byleth the main Lord but they needed someone ge could talk to so Seteth appeared out of nowhere to take that seat as "main Lord".
@flamepath7583
@flamepath7583 3 года назад
He was so unimportant, that in my run he was dead the entire time. (he died pre timeskip)
@furyousd5690
@furyousd5690 Год назад
Seteth is a boring bland character that only cares about 3 things, Himself, Flayn and Rhea
@furyousd5690
@furyousd5690 Год назад
@@flamepath7583 if only o could of killed him, but alas i play on casual because i dont like my units being able to be killed.
@juansolerXD
@juansolerXD Год назад
​@@furyousd5690 lmao you have not read any single of his support conv what so ever. That's like saying delgard is just fuck church unify fodlan. Or Dimitri is just haha killing go brrrr
@Farewellagainagain
@Farewellagainagain 4 года назад
Well, Rhea IS a dragon and we all know what happens to dragons that live for too long... They go insane! *cough* Every single Fire Emblem game in a nutshell *cough*
@MicksUp
@MicksUp 3 года назад
except path of radiance and radiant dawn
@franz2989
@franz2989 3 года назад
But that's why Naga made the dragon stones, right?
@monkeman5895
@monkeman5895 3 года назад
byvcxrrdvbf Idunn was forcefully corrupted by Yahn so she doesn’t count
@zapato7779
@zapato7779 3 года назад
Corrin did too
@MarceloKatayama
@MarceloKatayama 3 года назад
@byvcxrrdvbf the earth dragons from FE1/FE11, FE3/FE12 and FE4 also went insane. Only manaketes are safe from being corrupted or go insane.
@yamigianor6750
@yamigianor6750 4 года назад
Silver Snow is the only route who's ending properly explains Byleth's birth. You get see the crest stone in Byleth's heart at the end of Crimson Flower, and Rhea briefly covers the topic in Verdant Wind, but here you get her full presentation about how she created vessels to put the stone in to, how their parents coming together created the perfect host, and what happened to Byleth's mom. Even though it isn't too hard for the player to put it together themselves, this is the route exclusive lore dump it gives you. You seem to reference throughout the video that Silver Snow a 'knockoff Verdant Wind'. In actuality, Silver Snow was the first route the developers worked on, and afterwards it became the base structure for Verdant Wind and Azure Moon. This also explains why Crimson Flower has less content, as they weren't able to use Silver Snow a template. Silver Snow feels lackluster because Azure Moon and Verdant Wind basically have the exact same plot but with more characterization. Yes they could have gone back and gave it more features to stand out, but they had to make content cuts as is, so I doubt we would have seen it. TLDR Three houses is Neopolotin, and Silver Snow is the vanilla.
@worthywill9294
@worthywill9294 3 года назад
Basically.
@JaidynReiman
@JaidynReiman 3 года назад
I'm pretty sure that Rhea was planned to be playable all along, but due to development constraints she was cut. There's evidence in-game and from early leaks (which got almost everything else right, including the time skip long before we knew about the time skip) that she was supposed to be playable. The easiest way to fix these routes is to make Rhea playable in Silver Snow, replace Gronder on Silver Snow rather than skip that month, and swap final levels between Silver Snow and Verdant Wind. All of the character development and everything can still be present, including Rhea still continuing to try and bring back Sothis through Byleth until Rhea has her own revelations just like the video suggests. As fun as it would be to go ALL IN on replacing stuff, not all of it is necessary. Just making Rhea the Lord of the route and swapping the VW/SS final bosses would be enough.
@samthomas7253
@samthomas7253 3 года назад
@@JaidynReiman replacing SS and VW final maps make so much sense. Seiros gets to fight Nemesis, and Claude gets to fight The Immaculate One after going on about finding out the truth about it all the time.
@Saltyoven
@Saltyoven 3 года назад
Give Rhea more supports too. That'll help
@sophiagonzales8974
@sophiagonzales8974 3 года назад
@@JaidynReiman Also Rhea's paralogue should've been Claude's saint Macuil paralogue.
@nick3805
@nick3805 3 года назад
I would love this route. Ok, Ill admit, I like Rhea. I like how mysterious she is and also the character herself. That we never got to see how this character would act as Lord is a Shame, She is literally made for this.
@DefinitivNichtSascha
@DefinitivNichtSascha 2 года назад
It also makes sense with the weapons of all the lords (and Byleth). Byleth: Sword Edelgard: Axe Dimitri: Lance Claude: Bow Seteth: Another axe I guess and he flies too and can do some lance stuff. Rhea: Magic & brawling (and a sword, okay)
@nick3805
@nick3805 2 года назад
@@DefinitivNichtSascha Ein schönes Detail, auf das ich so gar nicht gekommen bin.
@natoriousthehopeful2786
@natoriousthehopeful2786 4 года назад
I would LOVE to have Rhea as the MC for Silver Snow; as much as I like Seteth, neither he nor Byleth can carry a story the way Claude or Dimitri can. As greedy as it sounds, I wish Nintendo and Intelligent Systems would make a Deluxe Edition of Fire Emblem so they can fix Silver Snow, flesh out the problems in the other Routes, and maybe do a little bit more with the Ashen Wolves (that last one may be a bit of a REAAACH, but like I said: I'm greedy). Also: I considered marrying Rhea in my Verdant Wind Playthrough, then Constance came out.
@zimonzieclown1633
@zimonzieclown1633 3 года назад
You can't marry Rhea in Verdant Winds, only in Silver Snow.
@kevinbach7148
@kevinbach7148 3 года назад
Impossible in VW
@ichangedidk9097
@ichangedidk9097 3 года назад
Same. I would probably like CF if they decide to make an effort to fix the damn story. And I want Jeralt to be playable in some of the pre-timeskip maps too.
@neilru5172
@neilru5172 3 года назад
Silver Snow was disappointing bc I think it's a missed opportunity to have several thousand year old characters and barely talking about their own backstories/thoughts on the war, knowledge you would only get from them, instead of just using them as storytellers for details that could've just been in the monastery library or inferred from foreshadowing.
@michaualtington
@michaualtington 3 года назад
I think el can carry even more cause raging storm
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi 3 года назад
My friend played this version and he framed the narrative as helping Ferdinand lead a rebellion against Edelgard to overthrow her. I quite liked this idea as Ferdinand's was always trying to challenge Edelgard for the position of Emperor. I think it would have been really cool if after the timeskip, Ferdinand gets promoted to a Lord rank (with increased stat boosts) and becomes the central lord of that route. I don't know of this was ever done in older games, but the idea of Three Houses taking a supporting character with established motivation and then promoting him to main character sounds really cool. And you could still have Rhea be a really important character too. It's just that now Ferdinand can become the central political character the Avatar and Rhea rally around. And because we lost Hubert and Edelgard, Ferdinand and Rhea could replace both of them. We could get some awesome exploration of both Ferdinand and Rhea this way, with Rhea focusing on the introspective and lore aspects of the route while Ferdinand takes care of the main plot of defeating the Empire. And this might conflict with your video a bit, but I think fighting Edelgard should be the main story. Because the big emotional hook of this path is having to fight against your prized student. Everyone who played Black Eagles loves Edelgard because they explored her character so well in the first half of the game. No one wanted to kill her even if they sided against her. My friend for instance was emotionally devastated after the plot twist, he actually stopped playing for a bit, he was that torn up. This should be the focus of the plot post-timeskip because it's the only branch in the entire game that can explore such a question: What do you do when you have to fight someone you care about?
@flamepath7583
@flamepath7583 3 года назад
Maybe Rhea could have more paralogues than normal, kinda like an entire side story, relating to her getting rid of the Slithering guys
@nadhirasatria6432
@nadhirasatria6432 3 года назад
I love that Ferdinand idea!! and also his father was stripped off from the position of being the prime minister and his house was pretty much "disgraced" it gives him more motive. Which I wondered about when playing crimson flower because if I was Ferdinand I would've fought against her and not with her for what she did to my family
@pickyphysicsstudent201
@pickyphysicsstudent201 3 года назад
I like that Ferdinand headcannon, as well but I don't think it fits him. Sure he's Edelgard's Lancer archetype who butts heads with her but he is nice, respectful and supportive towards her. If he was more like Felix (towards Dimitri), then that would make sense. You would also need to explain why he is standing against her, now, whereas in all other timelines, he is fighting alongside the empire. Personally, I don't like Ferdinand or at least he is the most forgettable of the Black Eagles class and his war design does not suit him, at all. He is very "generic", for lack of a better word. I welcome chances to improve him, though.
@ClaudevonRiegan_
@ClaudevonRiegan_ 2 года назад
I like Ferdie as a lord but I also like Yuri as a Lord
@hellothere2570
@hellothere2570 2 года назад
I think the issue with that from a game balance point of view is that for that to work you need to keep ferdie alive before timeskip. However, if you are picking crimson flower over silver snow, this isn't actually important at all, so it just creates an unneccesary restriction on certain players. I do think it would be cool to have ferdinand be the one to try and overthrow edelgard, but the branching paths mean it's difficult to have both routes exist without forcing players into potentially useless objectives
@ZephyrosPhoenix
@ZephyrosPhoenix 3 года назад
I never knew how much I wanted Rhea to be a recruitable unit until now. This would have been amazing for Silver Snow.
@ianrivera9563
@ianrivera9563 3 года назад
Dude, this is mind blowing for all the right reasons, I too agree that Nemesis should’ve been the final boss for Silver Snow and Rhea a unique playable character, would’ve made the route more favorable.
@darcyscott1750
@darcyscott1750 3 года назад
What about a SS where the Black Eagles side with Edelgard instead of Byleth? Maybe have some sort of retention mechanic based on whether Byleth or Edelgard's support with them is higher. I think it could be very interesting - in a worst case scenario, you'd be down a full eight units, and have to readjust with just the knights of serios. By splitting the eagles, it would add some emphasis that this is the church route by giving the church units an opportunity to be used instead of the eagles.
@EC_Tavo
@EC_Tavo 3 года назад
Yeah and probably have it set up to where you can choose to recruit them when you encounter them again in combat. You can probably use the timeskip ravine scene as an excuse for them to rally behind their homeland and edelgard with Byleth gone. To then be swayed once they reunite as foes.
@pizzahutkidman8806
@pizzahutkidman8806 3 года назад
Well, I believe that was supposed to happen if a student fell in battle. I tgink Edgegard says something to that effect, but it's never seen since the students are considered dead, rather than unrecuited. Real missed oppurnty though.
@justincruz2937
@justincruz2937 3 года назад
I agree just as much as I love Silver Snow despite its flaws I mean I like all 4 routes despite their flaws SS SHOULD balance the recruitment system concerning the Black Eagle Students other than our Goth Dude Hubert whether they join Edelgard or Byleth depends on the Support they have with one or the other like if the non-Hubert Black Eagle Students have a higher support with Byleth compared to Edelgard they're convinced their best idea in the War would be to side with Byleth as if they were recruited outside of their house in Azure Moon and Verdant Wind while if the opposite the Black Eagles other than Hubert have a higher support rank with Edelgard they'll side with her instead of Byleth just like when not recruited in Azure Moon and Verdant Wind.
@jackpurches3558
@jackpurches3558 3 года назад
All though it could make the game a lot hard compare to other route
@pizzahutkidman8806
@pizzahutkidman8806 3 года назад
@@jackpurches3558 Well, that makes sense since this route was considered a "Hard Mode" anyway by the delvopers. The lack of a Lord and the minus one deployment slot is a way to make the game harder, so instead of that, having this mechanic helps keep the challenge mode the original SS had.
@xuanathan
@xuanathan 4 года назад
If they really wanted to make an unfinished 4th route, they should’ve put more into it and kept it as DLC. That way the 3 first routes would be ABSOLUTELY polished, and the last one as well. And it would feel normal because most people expected 3 routes from a game called *Three Houses.*
@Tatsukoi.muffin
@Tatsukoi.muffin 4 года назад
You're so right.
@eevee1583
@eevee1583 3 года назад
Agree. BL and VW work well but both of the Black Eagles route are pretty not good.
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 3 года назад
How to make a routesplit:two fine routes, a copypasta with a dumb final boss and an unfinished thing.
@mr_mykal
@mr_mykal 3 года назад
To be fair, the Japanese and Chinese titles allude to the four seasons and reference the routes (wind, flower, snow, and moon).
@biandanxious3438
@biandanxious3438 3 года назад
Eevee Emblem Crimson flowers only problem was it being too short. Otherwise it’s fun gameplay and passion filled story with Edelgard is great 👍 I like Dimitri and Claude’s routes as well.
@ikejohnson5494
@ikejohnson5494 3 года назад
Fun fact, Edelgard’s route was intended to be the secret route, not the church’s. I don’t get why they assumed that most people who picked Black Eagles would slide against Edelgard
@hydrusalphy4654
@hydrusalphy4654 3 года назад
Because that's the point of Fire Emblem Three Houses. Just look at the theme song. I always say "Fire Emblem Three Houses is Edelgard's story. And it's a tragic story." I think the fact that Silver Snow was the first route to be made shows that the game was originally intended to be about Edelgard and the Professor bonding, then fighting and killing each other during the war.
@zimonzieclown1633
@zimonzieclown1633 2 года назад
Edelgard is the main reason why I chose BE first, so I don't get it either.
@lordmango6060
@lordmango6060 2 года назад
Well originally, according to the developers, it was supposed to muuuuuch harder to get the option to side with Edelgard. Her reveal as the Flame Emperor and her leaving Byleth to fight against you is supposed to be a shock to the player
@illusionofquality979
@illusionofquality979 Год назад
@@lordmango6060 Ngl, they weren't subtle. I played blindly and started with Azure but she and Hubert were dropping hints left and right even there.
@badmeetsevil6163
@badmeetsevil6163 8 месяцев назад
@@illusionofquality979the hints were only obvious on Dimitri’s route because of the part where she dropped her dagger. On her route, they’re extremely subtle and unnoticeable during the first time round. She comes off as this sweet innocent good girl only to reveal herself as The Flame Emperor later on.
@chriskagamine358
@chriskagamine358 3 года назад
"secret church route" he does realize that crimson flower is the secret path, right?
@Mario2980
@Mario2980 3 года назад
Is it even called a secret if the game literally tells you "Your choice will impact the story!"
@solidseagull4062
@solidseagull4062 3 года назад
I thought he was being sarcastic since everyone preferred the Crimson Flower route over Rhea's thighs.
@nuclearbirds
@nuclearbirds 3 года назад
Mario2980 but if you don’t meet the conditions, it does not even give you the message “this choice will impact the story” - it forces you into silver snow unless you have the Edelgard requirements.
@pyrojack8230
@pyrojack8230 3 года назад
He was being sarcastic because nobody likes Silver Snow.
@JVDBERGHE
@JVDBERGHE 3 года назад
None of the path's are sectret.
@tirex3673
@tirex3673 4 года назад
One correction, in dev interviews it was confirmed, that Silver Snow was the original route, Verdant Wind is the Copy.
@oa-san53
@oa-san53 3 года назад
Sources ?
@tirex3673
@tirex3673 3 года назад
@@oa-san53 serenesforest.net/2020/03/24/three-houses-nintendo-dream-interview-reveals-first-route-claudes-real-name/
@catelyntully9494
@catelyntully9494 3 года назад
It is possible that both were worked at the same time and shared ideas even if SS is the first one VW ended up a lot more polished, and just because is the original it doesn't remove the argument that 4 routes were released at the same time and VW is everything SS wanted to but better, even more involvement from the church as you can't have Cyril and Catherine until just before the timeskip. Still I love the final battle of SS a bit more.
@roaringthunder8069
@roaringthunder8069 3 года назад
It doesnt really change the fact that silver snow sucks in comparison
@chrispo7610
@chrispo7610 3 года назад
@@catelyntully9494 I mean we get the sick final boss fight song
@postman6553
@postman6553 3 года назад
Fire Emblem: Three Maps Because they keep reusing, the SAME GATDAM MAPS
@thenamedoesnotmatter
@thenamedoesnotmatter 3 года назад
I have covered every single map in 3H with so much blood and body parts so many times for over 300 hours and I totally agree. Cindered Shadows was really good and added some new victory conditions that I was surprised by. Almost every single map in the main game is "Rout all Enemies", and there are few secrets. FE6 gets a lot of flak, but it did the true/secret ending pretty well.
@raikaria3090
@raikaria3090 3 года назад
'When I heard there was a SECRET Church route' No. Crimson Flower is the 'secret' route. The default; if you miss the trigger; is Silver Snow. You actually need to go out of your way and do a couple of things to get Crimson Flower. Seteth isn't a Lord either. Although his stats really aren't far off the main 4.
@ds2587
@ds2587 3 года назад
I'm pretty sure that was a joke, because most people prefer Crimson Flower.
@eternalposts680
@eternalposts680 2 года назад
I got some sweet stat gains for Seteth, but even then the only lord he didn’t outmatch was Dimitri in all of the routes.
@wrex1285
@wrex1285 3 года назад
Holy shit, your version sounds so good I’m actually disappointed we didn’t get something like this, great job!
@rand0md00d3
@rand0md00d3 3 года назад
Rhea's S Support would make even more sense in your rewrite than in the canon route. Not only is she alive, she goes thru so much shit and actually develops as a character, so her S Support with her feelings being changed for Byleth makes sense and goes the same way as the other lords.
@skyscavenger7732
@skyscavenger7732 3 года назад
Tbh, I would've also given her and Byleth an A+ Support post-timeskip. Like, maybe have it so that if you manage to unlock her A-support pre-timeskip as intended, you would still see it as simply an "A" on the support list for the remainder of part 1, but then you get to part 2 and ta-da! There's now an A+ support with Rhea. I even wrote an idea of how it'd go; I'd post it here, but it's basically a wall of text xD But yeah, if we had seen her and Byleth interacting post-timeskip the same way he got to bond with the three lords on their routes, I reckon Rhea's S-support would've been more well-received. I mean, if you look at it, the S-support is actually great, because it shows progression for Rhea as a character and has a good thematic about acceptance and moving towards the future. Thing is, since the developers omitted her form like 80% of part 2, they also kinda omitted the development toward it; I think it's still there, but it happens off-screen (basically, it's told rather than shown). Which in turn also ended up not really clearing any of the misconceptions people got about the pairing unfortunately.
@moisesblandon9136
@moisesblandon9136 3 года назад
This is officially canon for me
@jangoligth
@jangoligth 3 года назад
I also see the Silver Snow as the Canon Ending since Rhea's words makes senses to me
@kevinbach7148
@kevinbach7148 4 года назад
Silver snow + : - Find quickly Rhea - Can S support Rhea - Main route - Fight Against The Least Amount of Former Students - Every students will satisfy after TWSITD are defeated. - : - April mouth absent - Very difficult without Lord - Reunion at Dawn and Following the Dream hard map. - Cannot get Felix sword and Annette Crusher and her battalions. Other route + : - Have lord character - : - Face enemy students I really hate fight enemy students so that why I choose Silver Snow many times. (4th, 6th, 8th, 9th and 10th the last.) If you are the kind of player that does not find satisfaction in killing your former monastery students, then the Silver Snow route is perfect. Out of all four routes, the Monastery Route gives players the opportunity to avoid wallowing in despair after killing former friends, colleagues, and students in battle. Since most of the church faculty and Black Eagles students will remain by Byleth’s side after Edelgard’s betrayal, this leaves only a handful of former students to fight against and most can be actually recruited if defeated by Byleth in battle.
@jadalmir8751
@jadalmir8751 3 года назад
why don't you just recruit every student if you have new game + than that should be a piece of cake
@catelyntully9494
@catelyntully9494 3 года назад
YES, Rhea really has a lot of potential as a character and has a deep conection in the story, I argue she and Edelgard are the 2 most influential characters, but Rhea is abscent most of the game in HER route, and the fact that Black Eagles students do take a lot of agency also afects it but she is even programed in the game she should've been playable in her route.
@MaxMazzAnimates
@MaxMazzAnimates 3 года назад
I did crimson flower first as well and I felt the same way about being lost when it came to lore. I ladee found out the Thalas was Edelgards uncle, and was shocked even though it was said, but they just gloss over every important bit in crimson flower.
@danfraser3302
@danfraser3302 3 года назад
I may be greedy for saying this, but I would've liked a couple of chapters of Crimson Flower dedicated to Byleth and Edelgard fighting TWSITD, before going for their final battle with Rhea. Maybe after the siege on Arianrhod (I probably didn't spell it right), Lord Arundel orders an Agarthan missile to destroy the fort in an attempt to kill Byleth, not really caring if Edelgard and the rest of the Imperial Army become casualties, Lord Arundel in the next chapter confronts Edelgard on why Byleth is still alive, Edelgard infers that it was him who sent the missile, then Arundel admits he did want to kill Byleth, not just for killing Cornelia who was their mole in the Kingdom, but because the mindset of the Agarthans are: "Fuck the Fell Star and they deserve to die a gruesome death." Essentially turning TWSITD against the Empire. Then when the Black Eagle Strike Force go to Shambahla, Arundel removes his disguise and is revealed to be Thales. After his death, Byleth and Edelgard then head to the Tailtean Plains to meet Dimitri in battle. Like I said, I might be greedy for wanting something more out of Crimson Flower, but I still like it more than Silver Snow.
@Tatsukoi.muffin
@Tatsukoi.muffin 4 года назад
I love your content. The edit on this one was perfect. I laughed a lot, and I think your ideas on SS route are logic and now I wanna play with Rhea more and more. Rhea deserves better. 10:10 poor Pallardó. I lost my shit here. He only wanted gold.
@dystopianalphaomega609
@dystopianalphaomega609 3 года назад
Some interesting ideas here. Honestly didn’t think Silver Snow was that bad, although I did play it first, without having blamed Golden Deer. Also the plan to take Fort Merceus seemed heavily implied that Seteth came up with the plan, but is giving you the credit for it. He’s a follower by nature, and always strives to be the perfect lieutenant, content to let you take the glory. What does bother me though are things like Cyril - you can’t recruit him until route split in Black Eagles. If you go with Church he is the normal very under leveled villager. If you go against the Church he is a powerful Wyvern Rider enemy. A prime missed opportunity for one of the Church-affiliated characters to shine. As for last chapter, I agree it would make more sense for Silver Snow to be fighting Nemesis, and Claude to fight Rhea, given where each is coming from. Just switching the final chapters would help greatly with this.
@linepenciloffice4007
@linepenciloffice4007 3 года назад
Nemesis would have make sense as the final boss for Silver Snow
@luvcherry
@luvcherry 3 года назад
the chills when he said nemesis could fight seiros tho I was always thinking that should have been her fight, for CF I thought it'd be cool if those who slither in the dark betrayed edelgard after killing rhea and so theres a couple more chapters potential there, for claude I'm not sure
@eternalposts680
@eternalposts680 2 года назад
Like, make VWs last few fights SSs, make SSs CFs, and give Claude a final fight with like, his dad or something. Just shofting around the endings make the routes make more sense.
@lorddragonskin3603
@lorddragonskin3603 3 года назад
12:28 Yes! It makes sense they'd rehearse Zahras on Byleth to execute it on Rhea. I approve of this. Edit: Nevermind that... I APPROVE THIS ENTIRE CHANGE LOG!!! (If only it was a change log...)
@manuelmontesinos7918
@manuelmontesinos7918 4 года назад
I honestly think both BL and GD have the same problem *but in different scale*. Silver snow doesn't differentiate itself enough to be worth calling it an entirely new route but this problem can be felt in the first few chapters of BL and GD too, I'd love to see what you'd do with those routes since you did such a good job in this vid (plus I need to see the other ideas you had for a Claude villain)
@Armads4Prez
@Armads4Prez 4 года назад
I feel the same way about BL and GD. All the non-Crimson Flower routes are extremely similar in gameplay, but Silver Snow just so happens to be the least original of them. Also I’m glad you enjoyed the video! I’ll be starting a How to Fix Verdant Wind soon
@NinnyVids
@NinnyVids 3 года назад
I LOVE your version of Silver snow. That sounds like an incredible fourth route!
@minam8022
@minam8022 3 года назад
"adult sothis" //nagi appears// well done lmao, when i tell u i lost it at that part...
@magicmines4857
@magicmines4857 4 года назад
This was a really good video! I have 235 hours in three houses (I've played all the routes) and silver snow was my least favorite for sure. It honestly felt pretty bland and there was so much more potential as you pointed out in the video. There were still elements I enjoyed don't get me wrong, however my biggest gripe with SS was that Rhea wasn't really explored all too much and that she wasn't a playable unit, I think that was a HUGE missed opportunity imo. Seteth is still a good character, he just felt very forced as a "lord". These changes I feel would have made the route so much more better and enjoyable. I really enjoyed the video and would definitely want to see more of whatever you put out. Keep up the good work man :)
@kumakibbs
@kumakibbs 3 года назад
lmao EVIL DISEASE, and also I would defintely play your ver. of SS man it would definitely fix the route. And yeah i also have to say i also to just played SS to get Funeral of Flowers its probably my fav tracks along side God-Shattering Star.
@impact2933
@impact2933 4 года назад
Damn this was a great ass video good jokes,great ideas that are totally possible considering the Assets the game already has. That’s a subscribe in my book
@impact2933
@impact2933 4 года назад
Also this would be a great opportunity to give Some more supports for Rhea with the other instead people just fucking about her the whole damn game
@l.n.3372
@l.n.3372 3 года назад
Your additions of Rhea/Seiros into the story were perfect. I'd have loved to play this version However, I will also add that I think the potential improvement SS already exists. It's called The cindered shadows Ashen Wolves DLC. The point of this DLC was to show more background on the additional crests, saints, and Byleth history. And that fits perfectly into SS as a route. Why? Because in the DLC Rhea tells Aelfric that he cannot ever revive the dead, they are gone forever. But Rhea herself needs to learn this message in the main campaign. So this could have been the perfect theme of SS too as Rhea learns thru Aelfric that the dead cannot come back, we need to learn to let go. This is a huge step for Rhea to learn. And it would help her as a character too. The tricky part is that it doesn't really connect to part 1 at all. So, I think SS should have been about the Ashen Wolves in part 1 instead of the Black Eagles. Simply add 4 more Ashen Wolves to make the full class of 8. And part 1 of Black Eagles is removed from SS perhaps and given only for CF. But that's just one option for the new SS part 1.
@thenamedoesnotmatter
@thenamedoesnotmatter 3 года назад
You could also add a menu option or an action performed during the original Garreg Mach Class introduction. When asked what class you want to teach, you could simply add "undecided" and then investigate the grounds to find the abyss entrance near your previously uninhabited room. Or finding the hole during the first month gives you the action of teaching them instead so Rhea can find a replacement teacher for whatever class you previously were teaching.
@l.n.3372
@l.n.3372 3 года назад
@@thenamedoesnotmatter There would def need to be some adjustments for Ashen Wolves to be the house of the new Silver Snow. Honestly it makes sense to have Ashen Wolves + other units join you from different houses too. Like all the units who have support with the Wolves (for example, Balthus can speak with Hilda and Lysithea, so maybe those 2 can join on this hypothetical new Ashen Wolves based SS path)
@angellexgamer5416
@angellexgamer5416 3 года назад
I think another cool thing to add to a new Silver Snow, is to have the Church of Seiros (Hanneman, Cyril, etc) (Excluding Gilbert) as your army in the timeskip. The Black Eagles will join Edelgard unless Byleth has a support of at least C with each of them. This way you have a different default army for every route.
@mrbilter83
@mrbilter83 3 года назад
ok this is absolutely perfect here's my sub now brb imma binge the rest of your vids
@Armads4Prez
@Armads4Prez 3 года назад
I see that there's some pretty common criticisms between the comments so I hope this addresses people's concerns (these are all just my opinion): "Silver Snow isn't the secret route. Crimson Flower is the one you have to complete an objective to play" Sure, but I know most people new to the game expected a route where you assist Edelgard. A Church route is "secret" because a new player would never anticipate it. That's what I meant in the video "Byleth is the main lord of Silver Snow, not Seteth" If you feel this way, then what I said about Seteth applies even more so to Byleth. I made fun of Seteth for being a "suburban dad" character, but Byleth rarely speaks at all. For a game that relies on a dramatic narrative, you shouldn't have someone like Byleth be the main focus. "You rely too much on Rhea's character in Crimson Flower. She lost her mind in that route. She's actually very kind and gave away power in every other route." I felt it was important to address that side of Rhea, because it's her lowest point. Rhea is normally a kind person, but she clearly has problems when people interfere with her plan to revive her mother. Rhea admits that she has regrets in her S-support with Byleth, and it seems that she may have lost her mind during her original fight against Nemesis (what kind of sane person rubs a bloody sword on their cheek like that?). I feel that something about being held captive in Enbarr may have improved her mindset. Imo, if you're making a route about Rhea, the player needs to be made aware of her flaws and Rhea needs to address those flaws in some manner in order to see true character development. Rhea would still show kindness in this new route (especially after meeting with her mother). "Why didn't you write it so that Claude/Dimitri/Rhea/Edelgard team up to fight a common enemy?" This is known as a "Golden Route" and while it's interesting to theorize about, I personally wouldn't want to see it actually implemented. It would make every other route feel worse, and it's also hard to write a dramatic story if everyone just becomes friends in the end. Ultimately, I'm very new to this RU-vid thing, so I appreciate every bit of positive criticism I get. I'm also amazed by how many people genuinely enjoyed the video. Even though I won't respond to every comment, I have been reading them all up until this point
@fyetur7996
@fyetur7996 3 года назад
i feel like verdant winds could have delved more deeply into Claude's backstory as a half almyran imo. Maybe They could have somehow implemented that into the gameplay. Edit: nvm you already made the video and put Claude's lineage as part of the final boss. Anyways nice videos! i would love to see a how to fix crimson flower.
@basilofgoodwishes4138
@basilofgoodwishes4138 3 года назад
The Church route is not an secret route, because you can miss the requirements for CF easily and you can choose for Rhea prior to the time-skip. Silver Snow is the first route, so it's the default and CF is the secret one. Agreed on Byleth to some extent. Oh please, stop infantilizing her. That sword is her mother, you would probably do the same if your Mom was turned into one. Also what caused the Dilemma in CF was Byleth's Betrayal and the loss of her Brethren and nothing else. Also what kind of person thinks solidary confinement in a dungeon and being left malnourished for 5 years? agreed about the last part for that we have CS and that's enough.
@guydee3821
@guydee3821 3 года назад
@@basilofgoodwishes4138 That's... actually pretty concerning. If you would rub the bloody bones of your dead mom on your cheek after BRUTALLY murdering the person who killed her, I think that you should seek help.
@basilofgoodwishes4138
@basilofgoodwishes4138 3 года назад
@@guydee3821 Well she missed her and I think most humans would have done the same. She does need Therapy though.
@hyliastone286
@hyliastone286 3 года назад
Personally I'd love to see a remake of 3H with the existing routes improved - particularly Silver Snow and Crimson Flower, and Silver Snow in pretty much exactly the way you described, and then a masterfully written golden route that is _only_ accessible after completing all the other routes and is based on the concept of Byleth and Sothis rewinding time to the beginning of White Clouds to try and fix things, preferably countless attempts down the line, and possibly with its own extremely unhappy ending (like everyone unites, but it's too late and they almost get completely wiped out by TWSITD) that then leads into another New Game+ where it is not just Byleth and Sothis who go back but also someone else such as Edelgard or Rhea and then and only then do you get your golden route happy ending. That would be my Three Houses remake.
@ailyncoronado5948
@ailyncoronado5948 3 года назад
i just get really excited to listen your version and imagine it 😌❤️
@NightOwl1515
@NightOwl1515 3 года назад
Another thing that would have been cool is that if you go silver snow, you're only guaranteed the church units. Byleth would need to have a B-rank support with their students for them to immediately join you. If you had a C-rank, you'd have to defeat them in battle with Byleth before recruiting them and if you didn't support them at all, you've got no choice but to kill them.
@somethingcreative3307
@somethingcreative3307 3 года назад
I really liked you’re rewrite of silver snow I would love to play you’re version of silver snow it makes way more sense and makes the route less of a hell hole
@dustinvance243
@dustinvance243 3 года назад
People keep saying Seteth is the Lord in Silver Snow, but I don't think that's true. The real lord in silver snow is Byleth. he/she is the one leading the church in Rhea's absence. And in the context of silver snow, Byleth becomes the ruler of Fodlan since the Empire, Kingdom, and alliance are all left with a power vacuum that only the archbishop can fill. Heck, Rhea practically names Byleth archbishop before the time skip.
@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502
@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 3 года назад
Thats an even bigger problem since byleth, largely by their nature of being a player insert, is the worst character in the game.
@dustinvance243
@dustinvance243 3 года назад
@@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 I wouldn't go that far. Byleth is a deadpan character much like Shamir and Dedue. And they're great characters. And depending on the support or paralogue Byleth can be more expressive than either of them. I like all the characters in the game, but if I had to pick a "worst character" it would probably be Anna since she doesn't really add anything, has no supports, and is only there as a franchise cameo.
@fakebunny1272
@fakebunny1272 3 года назад
@@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 they are not supposed to be a character that is your mistake they are an avatar an avatar is it that hard to put yourself on his shoes? if so why?
@aljien19
@aljien19 3 года назад
Seteth is more like a Jagen in this route
@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502
@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 3 года назад
@@fakebunny1272 that's the issue, their natute of being an avatar makes them a boring character (as they arent one) so trying to focus the narrative around them makes it less engaging as opposed to the other routes wich wisely chose to center their stories around other character's journies. Having a player avatar works for games like dark souls, where the focus of the narrative is on the world around the avatar, or undertale, where the many many choices you make allow you to insert yourself into the character you play, but for something like three houses where there is a heavy focus on character a player avatar makes the story less engaging due to how few points there are where your decisions actually effect where the story goes. You also seem to be implying that there is something wrong with me for not being able to insert myself into the avatar. I appologise if this was not your intent, but if it was then i would suggest not taking that approach in future.
@Mentleif
@Mentleif 3 года назад
And subscribed. Really hoping to see videos on those topics you mentioned if enough people ask
@verskarton
@verskarton 3 года назад
9:47 “Edelgard feels she can still win this fight. But decides to retreat out of respect for her teacher. And his body. “ X’D
@PokeballEX
@PokeballEX 3 года назад
The church route could have been a chance to highlight some of the similarities between Edelgard and Nemesis as well as give Rhea a chance to basically do the War of Heroes over again to make up for the mistakes of her past. You could start the route the same with Byleth, their students, and the Knights of Seiros meeting up at the monastery. The Knights reveal that they have spent the past five years largely staying out of the conflict and searching for Rhea and they beseech Byleth to do the same. The former students aren't very happy that they won't be fighting the Empire, but ultimately they go along with their professor. Randolph's army still has to be repelled from Garreg Mach and the Church still clashes with the Empire, but the aim is not to liberate conquered territories or anything like that. Rather, the objective is determining Rhea's location and discovering just how deeply entangled TWSITD and the Empire have become. By the time Grondor rolls around, both the Kingdom and Alliance armies are asking the Church for help in the coming battle. At the same time, the Knights learn that Rhea is being held in a TWSITD-controlled facility. The Church refuses to help either side and instead goes to rescue Rhea. Once Rhea is free, she is mortified to learn that her life was given higher priority than the people of Fodlan. Rhea has come to learn the part her lies have played in leading up to the war and has decided it is time for her to atone. She once again leads the people of Fodlan into battle, this time not to satisfy her own revenge, but to fulfill her duty to the people she has failed. She dons the armor of Seiros, Seteth and Flayn reveal their true identities, and perhaps at some point Macuil and Indech are persuaded to join the cause. Together, they create a united front against the Empire, welcoming true believers of the faith into their ranks as well as what remains of the Kingdom and Alliance army. The new Church army approaches Enbarr through the old Kingdom territory rather than across Myrddin and through Grondor like the other routes, giving the opportunity for some new maps or at least the chance to reuse some different ones. Everything from Fort Merceus onwards proceeds roughly the same. Enbarr is taken and Edelgard is defeated, but not before TWSITD are able to escape. The Church gets Hubert's letter and it's pretty much the current VW ending from there. Perhaps Macuil tanks the nukes at Shambhala instead of Rhea so that she's still at full strength for the Nemesis fight. Once Nemesis is defeated and the true history of Fodlan is at last revealed, the Nabateans depart for a distant land, leaving Fodlan in the hands of Byleth and the humans. After all, if Sothis can entrust her power to a (mostly) human like Byleth, then perhaps it is also time for Rhea to at last leave Fodlan's destiny in the hands of its people.
@Zuyuri
@Zuyuri 3 года назад
I would play your version of silver snow in a heartbeat.
@dekleinegoblin
@dekleinegoblin 3 года назад
Awesome video!
@RubyChiang
@RubyChiang 3 года назад
Those changes you made, were amazing! And O totally agree that the fire thing at the monastery is definitely a Claude thing and I actually didn’t know about it until I got Verdant Wind because in Azure Moon, I didn’t get the Chirch soldier to get to the location with him dying. 😂😂😂
@grassaf4354
@grassaf4354 3 года назад
I’m just laughing through the pain with this. Like damn the POTENTIAL in Silver Snow is insane but what we actually got is, like you said, a cheap rip-off of Verdant Wind
@Pystoria
@Pystoria 11 месяцев назад
This is a super cool video, I would've loved to see playable Rhea
@bekah116
@bekah116 3 года назад
I never played Sliver Snow, but I'm gonna pretend this is what went down. Sounds a lot better than what actually happens
@matthewmartell3148
@matthewmartell3148 3 года назад
Just finding your content now, really interesting thoughts! One problem you didn't address is how the first half of the route is spent developing the black eagles. If Silver Snow ended up being DLC (like other commenters suggested), Byleth could be presented the "I'd rather join the knights" option in chapter 1 and Jeritza takes over the Black Eagles as professor. You'd have to rework chapter 1, but literally every other pre-timeskip level could play the same. Your initial character pool is Gilbert, Jeralt, Seteth, Catherine, Shamir, Alois, Cyril and Jeritza (or Rhea) to make it 8.
@rickfarris3453
@rickfarris3453 3 года назад
I think SS should have been, A: a unified path with the Kingdom, Alliance, and Empire deserters working together or B: a full-blown Church route like you said, and I think the Black Eagle students will only join you if they have a C or B support with Byleth, but you will also have the option to spare them.
@roaringthunder115
@roaringthunder115 3 года назад
“Is there anyone else she can fight?” I saw Nemesis coming and I loved it lol
@summonerfraco3603
@summonerfraco3603 3 года назад
Oof, I wish this was the silver snow we would've gotten. Great video! Can't wait tobwatch about the other routes!
@nei9196
@nei9196 2 года назад
Fun fact, on my first silver snow playthrough, setheth died during chapter 12. Meaning i couldn't use him at all, he still talked during all of the maps and appeared in the cutscenes. And then i look at what happened about all of my characters, then i learn that actually setheth died in 1185, from his wounds he got from 1181. Even if fodlan's calendar is different, setheth died from wounds that are around at least 1 year old.
@nikosagantz
@nikosagantz 3 года назад
Your ideas are so good that I want to write or read a 12+ chapter fanfic using it as a base for it.
@Zoroark_Master
@Zoroark_Master 3 года назад
Crimson flower is actually the one who’s the secret route with silver snow being the actual normal route (since you need many requirement to even unlock CF, while SS is always possible if you choose Edelgard)
@illusive-mike
@illusive-mike 3 года назад
As far as Rhea's low point as a Lord, I feel this idea doesn't quite manage to tie into Rhea's greatest flaw in the game - her faith-inspired passivity. Fodlan's deterioration pre-war is largely facilitated by Rhea only doing the bare minimum actions required to keep the status quo, trusting that Sothis would eventually return and fix everything. This can actually be explored with this idea without much change. Instead of calmly telling Rhea that the Nabateans were meant to guard Fodlan in Sothis's absence, Sothis can just be her snarky gremlin self and scold Seiros for being a selfish girl and forsaking all the responsibility she took upon herself when becoming Archbishop. This could parallel Rodrigue's role in AM, snapping Seiros out of her flawed line of thinking and forcing her to rethink her life and acknowledge her own failings. With the added bonus of the therapy god who achieves this being the actual Progenitor God, as opposed to the divine revenant known as Byleth. This even opens up a possibility for a nice moment in the ending to contrast with the opening. After beating Nemesis again, this reinvigorated Seiros would not kneel with her mother's remains near a puddle of blood, but would instead stand tall amidst the people she's finally ready to lead. Edit: Actually, there could be an even more direct frame-for-frame reversal. Instead of the Imperial troops in the light triumphantly brandishing their weapons and Seiros kneeling and muttering, we can have Seiros triumphantly raising her sword in the light as Nemesis's army crumbles to dust, and the knights kneeling as she loudly announces victory.
@alejandrolagunes5697
@alejandrolagunes5697 4 года назад
Your vids are awesome🥺🥺👌🏻
@benthicc3262
@benthicc3262 3 года назад
Dang I'm trying o make similar videos and I wish they would take off like this. Congrats man!
@yukil.spencer3848
@yukil.spencer3848 2 года назад
dunno if I've commented this before but seteth joining your army without the level to use his own damn lance is funny af
@thereaIitsybitsyspider
@thereaIitsybitsyspider 3 года назад
Oh wow, making Nemesis as the final boss of Silver Snow makes so much sense that it is crazy it isn't already that way.
@PantheonFefnir
@PantheonFefnir 3 года назад
I think the issue isn't so much that Silver Snow doesn't have a Lord, or that the "Lord" is Seteth, because it does have a non-Seteth lord: the problem is that it's Byleth, the objectively worse choice for a Lord in 3H. I know we all like to give Corrin shit - and fairly well-deserved at that, don't get me wrong - but Byleth is an even worse choice for a focal Lord than them because of the decision to make them an effectively silent protagonist, with them only being allowed dialogue options that are not allowed to meaningfully impact the story's direction or flow. I'd actually argue that Seteth, contrary to what you'd argue, isn't a bad character and isn't lacking in potential to make for a decent lead character. He's got a lot going for him, like how he strongly questions Rhea's many decisions and believes their society is backwards in many ways, yet at the same time knows much about her past and actions, and is probably the person she's closest to (outside of Insert Nameleth-kun) If anything, I feel, Silver Snow (and the time skip in general) neuters Seteth - because Rhea is absent and he's forced to be one of the primary voices of concern in trying to find her, he's not allowed to really explore his more contrary opinions about Rhea's decisions in shaping Fodlan like he could.
@MrSupersmash93
@MrSupersmash93 2 года назад
Horse shit, Corrin actually has a personality and character development. They are an actually lord. The criticism towards Corrin is bullshit
@mitchellm3536
@mitchellm3536 3 года назад
I assumed you had to fight Nemesis and when Rhea started transforming, I was definitely pissed. Nothing but missed opportunities.
@iamlordapollo
@iamlordapollo 2 года назад
To address your confusion regarding Rhea's madness: contrary to popular belief, all fire emblem games do in fact occur in the same timeline. Therefore, dragons that don't seal their power into dragonstones and become manaketes go insane due to the planet being harmful to dragons. This is established all the way back in fe2 with Mila and Duma. There are a number of ways to explain why her and the other nabataeans may be unaware of this fact, but since they clearly originated in the Nabata desert before coming to Fodlan, which was long after the Scouring, it seems realistic that the knowledge may just be lost to time. It may even be that Sothis came to Fodlan to escape the Scouring, or that she was one of the divine dragons sent by Ashunera to colonize the new continents after radiant dawn. I'd like to see an hour long video where you discuss the timeline in full. Great stuff man.
@duwanglover3424
@duwanglover3424 3 года назад
“But that plan doesn’t really vibe with Dimitri’s thought process” yeah that sums up the first half of part 2 AM
@DunYappin
@DunYappin 4 года назад
Flames. Absolute flames my boi
@regojozsa
@regojozsa 3 года назад
I think it would've been nice to see Seteth and Flayn in their dragon forms at some point in 3h
@RetroNerdyGamer
@RetroNerdyGamer 3 года назад
I want to correct you here and say the Church route (Silver Snow) is the real Black Eagles route while Crimson Flower is the secret one. The reason I say this is because CF requires a few things that you may not know about to even unlock the choice to play it.
@joho4430
@joho4430 3 года назад
I think for azure moon the best way to fix chapter 14, you’d instead be unable to find (and unable to deploy) Dimitri before the battle, and then bam, he’s actually flanking on the right side of the map on like turn 3. It fits his “strategy” better, to one man army while everyone else defends, and it fits his character at the time for him to not say his idea.
@remton6979
@remton6979 3 года назад
Literally if silver snow played out like this this would literally be the best route. Great thinking!
@hexmaniacciaran
@hexmaniacciaran 3 года назад
Reunion at Dawn should have been a rescue Rhea mission so she can join after it, say she’s being transported from the empire to meet Arundel - she then joins but like Dimitri she is broken, she is devastated and full of rage and hate and like in other routes Byleth helps them heal, Byleth like in other routes is the warm sun, they melt away the ice encasing Rhea’s heart
@limepine881
@limepine881 3 года назад
oh no im so pissed right now because i would have LOVED this route. have my sub dude.
@blazekaizer9000
@blazekaizer9000 2 года назад
This was my first route and I loved many sections, Edelgard is great before the betrayal. And Petra, Dorothea, Seteh, Caspar, Bernadetta are all fun characters. Even Ferdinand grows on you because of his hatred toward Edelgard. You spot on with the lack of playable Rhea, the ending that came out nowhere and the lack of lord.
@alexeilassistant
@alexeilassistant 3 года назад
Love a lot of your ideas here. I played the game in the order : AM-> VW -> CF -> SS and by the time I got to silver snow I was so disappointed with how unfinished it felt. (I know it was the original route and there were definitely things I would have put in the other routes as well) I think the main fault of this game is that the devs spread themselves too thin. Excited to see more of hat you have to offer the FE community in the future.
@XGame80
@XGame80 3 года назад
Honestly, I’d play this Silver Snow. Also, after beating Silver Snow, you could get the Funeral of Flowers music, since there’s really no place for it in the game.
@JameSeraphim
@JameSeraphim 3 года назад
Jesus how does a youtuber come up with a better story than the people hired to make the game lol this was awesome
@snow0w120
@snow0w120 3 года назад
I loved your Lego example, a true art form.
@ShokieShoka
@ShokieShoka 3 года назад
Secret Church Route? I accidentally did that one over Edelgards. Proud to say I did Dimitris route
@CaptainAstronaut
@CaptainAstronaut 3 года назад
This is an excellent video, and I wish Silver Snow was this instead of what we got
@Pigmedog
@Pigmedog 3 года назад
im a game developer and writer, and I do actually agree with the majority of your points. id love to hear your take on crimson flower as well tbh
@mobiusloop339
@mobiusloop339 3 года назад
You have great content
@Pitto1414
@Pitto1414 3 года назад
just one word: amazing
@ajax9644
@ajax9644 3 года назад
I would've liked it if when Rhea promotes she announced to the world who she is so that her character is growing by throwing away her facade and essentially saying "Im back bitches"
@nii5370
@nii5370 3 года назад
Something that could happen with Rhea in the battlefield is turning into the Imaculate One, she would have limited time to stay in that form, like 3 turns or 4
@kellyjohana516
@kellyjohana516 3 года назад
Hold on. Isn't Byleth supposed to be the lord in Silver Snow and Seteth and Flayn are just your Dedues/Huberts/Hildas?
@melaniey.5596
@melaniey.5596 3 года назад
Yes! Yes! Yes! Rhea deserves better, frankly it would have really helped with the themes of the story if the divide of the route meant we would know Rhea at her best or her worst. Still salty there is no support between the two babies units of the church (Flayn and Cyril).
@cherryspice1011
@cherryspice1011 3 года назад
5:28 This is LITERALLY what happened to me the first time I played this game lmfao
@siriocaz5743
@siriocaz5743 3 года назад
You know, I was a bit hesitant throughout the video but you sold me your version as soon you mentioned the fight bewtween Seiros and Nemesis. That would've been cool as hell. Although, I'll be honest, I have a soft spot for Silver Snow because it is the only route where Byleth is the sole leader of the efforts against the Empire and TWSITD. Just wish it had a better plot and better characterisation.
@akuntogether
@akuntogether 3 года назад
I LOVE YOUR VERSION OF SILVER SNOW!!!!!
@azureaether1661
@azureaether1661 3 года назад
I think Rheas evil disease is because of the agarthan nukes she took or something? Not sure but thats the best explanation I can think of
@Armads4Prez
@Armads4Prez 3 года назад
I think this is the explanation they were going for, but she gets nuked in both routes
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