How To Get Brutal Low Screams & Growls w/ WILL RAMOS of Lorna Shore! 

I love this kind of stuff because people who don’t even like deathcore, or even any kind of screaming genre can see how it’s really just another way to express your voice musically.

Will is a freak in the best possible way -- I'm not really a huge fan of the genre but his abilities are just incredible. And he seems like an authentically good dude with a great personality.

Can we take a minute to appreciate how much Will does for channels by coming on and talking about what he does. He’s just great at what he does and is a great human being in general. Edit: holy shit, this is the first time I’ve had a top comment, and 1.1k likes? That’s pretty cool, thank you guys!

This channel is definitely going in the right direction. Keep up the good work, Chris!

I've been screaming for 13 years and it's crazy how I'm still learning new stuff. Wonderful video guys. 👏👏

Holy cow - finally a vocal coaching channel without blabla and just getting right into it. And even more important: no fear to try stuff with his voice. this is really motivating and liberating! Subscribed =)

I practiced a few years to growl without tension on my neck. Now I am using tongue and it made my growl more preetier and professional. Will Ramos is the most relaxed deathcore vocalist ever I seen.

I need a full singing course by Will RAMOS!！( I know there will be !)

Will is the most charismatic bro in deathcore🤘🏻

There is a culturally significant movement happening here: the vocals of this music style are starting to create awe and curiosity in people. So now the technical skill of this is being investigated-which means it is respected, and not just by practitioners or fans-but it’s starting to catch the attention of the average person. This is really really good for metal! Look at the explosion of technical skill on all instruments and vocals lately… we are entering a great time to love metal.

Bro, that cupping the ears thing is wild. I've never heard my voice like that. Will is a master of his craft, and it's so cool how willing he is to let people know how he does what he does.

I don’t think I can even begin to comprehend how DIFFICULT it is to do an hour long show, switching from highs and lows, to all these other techniques. I wonder if it feels like a full upper body workout after a show for Will?

Youve had so many vocalists on here. Will is the first you can tell is just genuinely down to earth and has no ego about him. Hes the best.

Now I know from this that Alex Terrible's screams are mostly without tongue. Thank you for explaining in detail, Will. Really one of the best in the field.

Step 1: learn Step 2: drive to the orphanage Step 3: *power*

Chris always bringing that good content. Thanks for this, and for having Will on (and thank you Will for coming on).

Omg Chris can finally do the nasty noises like i never heard him do before We did it boys we made him into a monster

Chris hitting that 10:00 min mark perfectly with no ad placement. What a statement.

I love when vocalists of different levels bounce off each other. It really shows the full spectrum of practice and progression

0:10 dude! What does my tongue need to do to create THAT sound! 🤣🤣

Just saw Lorna Shore in concert in New Orleans. Will's voice is immense!

Will is a man of the people

Not only is Will Ramos a great artist AND a great teacher, but what an all around nice and genuine dude

Such eloquence from both of these guys. I dismissed a lot of this metal and vocals thinking it was all post-processed. I was wrong, it's a crazy talent and skill. Cheers!! 🤘🤘🤘

Great video, Chris! Thanks for inviting Will to share some of his techniques. This is so cool for people wanting to learn how to do this properly as well as for fans who are interested to know, "how does he DO that?!" Big ups to Will for being so generous with his time and caring that people want this content when he could keep all his skills and techniques to himself, he chooses to share and help develop other talents for the scene. And as always, thank you Chris, for always providing us with your invaluable knowledge. Much appreciated!

Will seems like such a friendly guy.

ACKSCHYUALLY, he's not explaining ALL the differences between the tongue/no tongue sound at the end. What he also adds to the tongue sound is a slight variation in pitch right at the start of the syllable, compared to no tongue. If you listen in, you can almost hear a hardcore-esque semi-clean sound at the very start of every syllable before he goes into the growl, this is completely absent during his no tongue demonstration. This is something I noticed while listening to early Whitechapel, and picking up on that deathcoreism (the tiny little clean bit of attack) was absolutely crucial in developing an authentic deathcore tongue sound.

I’ve never seen such a talented person who is equally nice. I will watch anything and everything he puts out.

With Will Ramos, now the next guest, by Socratic method logic, obviously has to be Corpsegrinder.

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you interviewed all my fave vocalists... only Courtney LaPlante and Vessel left

Lorna shore just has one of the most coolest edgiest vocals tbh, I can’t really see myself being that talented when trying it out for myself lol but it’s really interesting how other vocalists in deathcore bands are able to create they’re own unique tone too. 🖤🤘🏽

use your poop muscles is the best analogy I've ever heard

I loooove when Vocalists vary their frequencies and tones. Not arbitrarily but matching what the song and/or lyrics require. The 1st time I heard a good example of this was Peter Tagtgrens vocals in Bloodbath, Nightmares made Flesh. As he also mixed in these ascending and descending piercing screams along w the varied growls. Highly recommend.

Will is one of the most "PROFESSIONAL" metal vocalists I've ever seen.

Yes yes yes! I’ve been trying to work more on my vocals but I’ve noticed the more I try the more I end up hurting myself. I’m going to be signing up for that warm up course now! This video was awesome and I love Will so much, he’s an incredible vocalist ❤️

i absolutely love that the 3 of you have gotten together for this. i followed both you and elizabeth before i was introduced to will through another reactor, TankTheTech, and he is the first harsh vocalist i ever actually enjoyed listening to. you all have opened my eyes and ears in different ways, so this collab is just magical to me 💜

I do that open cupping ear thing naturally. And I'm surprised I am not just a weirdo lol

Will Ramos is a great guy saw Lorna Shore live at Download23, and then during Parkway's set I ended up fist bumping the whole band. what a guy.

Chris and Will are both really great vocalists, and I'd say even better ambassadors of open-minded singing

tongue or no tongue - Dalai Lama 2023

Will is so technically knowledgeable in heavy vocals. Probably the best guy to have ever done it. Dudes dedicated to the craft

I never got the low tone until now. Always got the highs real good but now I know it’s nearly the same principle with a different vowel.

Hey Chris love your stuff!! Could you make a video on how to distort your voice like Matt Maeson? Especially on his song cry baby

Can we all take a minute to appreciate how whenever Will looks at you or the camera his head leans to his right and he has a "would you look at that" expression?

Been screaming for about 12 years and I’m still learning this stuff. Even just new approaches or different perspectives. My inner nerd is so happy with these types of videos.

Yessss! Cupping your ear is super important. I’m 29 now, and I’ve been doing vocals since I was 15. Cupping my ear has vitally changed the range in which I’ve been able to produce. I’ve never seen anyone else do this technique.

Will: "Sigh into it" Me: "Oh, so channel my teenage daughter. She makes that noise all the time!"

As an elite athlete, I’m always looking for how things might apply across discipline. The idea of really warming up makes a lot of sense to me. Runners who are new just tend to go out and run. In reality you need at least a little warmup to make sure your muscles are ready to go! Similar to what Will was saying. There’s also a balance between pushing too hard and not pushing enough. Too hard and your injured. Not hard enough and you don’t get results- again, similar to what Will was saying. Lastly, I love all the nuanced movements and placements to give a bit of diversity in the mix. Just like running- when you know how to move well (doing drills) you can love differently on different terrain to make things easier/harder. I also love Chris, your enthusiasm and willingness to be a student. So cool!! I’ll be signing up as I’m slowly dipping into metal vocals. Thanks for teaching Will and Chris!

Me sounding like barbarian king from clash of clans 💀 1 year after I commented. I have a great growl now. Really almost damaged my throat a lit of times. But Hey I got better at it lmao.

Will seems like a pretty chill dude. You should also get Tom Barber of Darko on, hilariously enough previously of Lorna Shore. That band has had several extremely talented vocalists with different tones / sounds

This is amazing. I was screaming along with Will in my garage ahahaha. Seriously tho I love how you’re giving people insight into this style of metal. It’s needed

This was very cool! I have always had an appreciation for this type of singing, but struggle to understand the words when I hear them. I grew up listening to Slayer, Pantera, etc. It's an adjustment listening to the growling vocals. Kinda reminds me of the Mongolian Throat Singing, such low vibrations. Take care Chris💕

Really glad he mentioned how to alter the sounds for song variation. I have heard too many metal bands recently, even in live concerts, have every song sound exactly the same due to the singer only doing one type of scream.

Yeah man! I'm also steppin into my extreme vocal journey, love this for you Chris!! Will is a beast and a chill dude, same with you! Stay up yall ❤‍🔥

Fantastic video and Will, seems such a great guy! His enthusiasm, is amazing! 🤩

I don't want to growl, I just like watching you fellas do it LOLOL. This was really fun!

*cups ear* *ring ring* “Hello who’s this” “HAUGHHHHHHHH HAUGHHHHHHHH”

Is that Sylvester Stallone at 7:21? ;) Terrific video, and thanks for having the warmups free and with so much depth! Really looking forward to the full course :)

Seen videos of Will in the past and have been so impressed. And of course, same with Chris. Thank you so much for sharing this with us on RU-vid. Is Chris from Colorado?

I love wills energy and how funny he is 🤘🏼

I've been practicing vocals for seven years now and I learned there could be an entire new level to my techniques. Much apprecation and love!

YES! I like that you make those kinds of videos where I can actually improve my vocal techniques with easy-to-understand terms and examples! Brilliant! "use the poop muscles" lmao, but it actually helps!

Loved this, Will you are inspirational! Voice of and angel

I’m not particularly a Lorna Shore fan but Will is incredible and overall a great dude from what I’ve gathered. But his cover of Recreant with Nik is NUTZ Update 9 months later, I am now particularly a Lorna Shore fan!

My downstairs neighbors probably thinks the grudge lives above them 💀 I sound like a dying frog… for now.

Loved this! Thank you for touching on some basic yet extremely important things that many beginners have questions about but virtually are never touched upon!!!

I can't sing at all. And I can't do any screams/growls, but I'm going to experiment with it now. This was super interesting. Thank you!

everything Will touches is gold...

I've been screaming for almost 11 years and I'm still learning! Thanks for the video!

I've watched a variety of extreme vocal videos from a variety of creators and I have to say seeing it in a more conversational format helps the understanding so much more than just assuming something about technique

I love watching regular dudes make the most disgusting noises imaginable and then just talk about it like nothing happened

Will ramos is just a gift from higher powers for everyone who watches this sort of content.

Will is such an awesome and genuine guy. Great vid guys.

Thanks for the video)) . I study technique and facial expressions on studio videos. The methods that are used are excellent. Although I've been singing extreme vocals myself for almost 20 years. And there are also their own songs and covers of them . Thank you)) At the same time, the vocals constantly need to grow. And it's nice that I can learn something new)) I myself am from the Russian Federation

Hey Chris, cool collab, seeing lots of Will around today. Very cool seeing you learn as you go!

I don't know if Chris is shorter or if will is just pretty damn tall. Also hell yeah on getting will on

luvvit. this guys a legend for me already. love the band too!

This is exactly the video I needed. I started learning singing and screaming about 9 months ago, fry screaming was pretty easy to learn and practice but all the videos I saw on growling I never managed to understand exactly what people were doing. This is by far the best video on the subject I've seen and I think it'll really help me get into growling and learn how to practice it and make it my own. I hope you've got more videos planned with Will he's a monster of a vocalist.

WOW! As a home enthusiast musician who's only just getting to the point of wanting to actually produce music, I've gotta say that open cup thing Will does is incredible. Even just in the last 10 minutes or so I can definitely see what he means regarding your muscles learning what makes the sound you're after with the live feedback. What absolutely incredible advice. And thankfully I already signed up for the warmups as well so between it and the one from Spencer, My confidence in being able to put out some solid work is steadily rising. Man I'm soo hyped for the future. Thank you for this.

Very interesting! Thanks for the great content! Collabs like this are always entertaining.

This is probably the only vocal course im ever going to end up paying for. ive been trying to learn screams for 6 years and haven't figured it out. If Will cant point me in the right direction, i dont think anyone can

I've been follow you since you analized Adam Gontier singing style ! You are with no doubt the best vocal coach on internet I love you content, i can feel your passin on it. I would love to see and interview with Adam !

He seems like such a chill and informative dude. Such talent

Hi Chris and Hi Will! Your full daily warmup is amazing and I got to learn some great stuff. Buut in the procees of doing the warmups (I am living in an apartment) i got 3 neighbours at my door knocking like hell on the door, threatening me like: if you don’t stop that nonsense i’ll call the cops.. that is not singing, it is just stupid! …. so.. i did finish the whole routine, aaand got the cops at my door after a few more minutes… this made me think i am doing it right 😂. Nothing bad happened but it was a fun discussion. Kudos to both of you for finding the right people and for sharing their techniques! Peace and Love 🤘

Fantastic content, you guys make it extremely easy to understand. I remember years ago when I first started learning how hard it was to find good info on this subject unless you ordered Melissa Crosses' DVDs or something lol so again, bravo for being the helping hand that you are today from all of us learners to you

The cupping of the ear reminds me of how a dj has the second channel that he’s going to switch to going in one ear and listening to the set without a headphone in the other ear. They’re using 1 headphone to prep the next track and they’re using the other ear to hear exactly what the audience is getting in the moment

One of my best friends committed suicide tonight and your videos really help me alot Chris I wrote a song I want to live on in his memory and if it wasn't for you I couldn't do it thank you chris

The muscle to constrict to make a scream are the same you use to hold your breath or cough, which is where false cord engagement takes place. if you sigh and then hold your breath abruptly with force to cut the air off, those are the muscles you need to control. The trick is to cut the air with that reflex but only partially, the more you do this while letting air and voice out the more your false fold will develop and get a better sound over time. You can really improve the false fold sound by learning mongolian throat singing which will help them vibrate easier with less air needed.

I’ve been doing screams for 5 years now just figuring it as I go, but to hear it broken down to science is so much help! Can’t wait to check out the course!

Awsome! Thank you both so much for awsome content, teachings and beeing chill dudes!

It's crazy how he goes from a little nice dude and then he just transforms into a monster lol

Gonna see this awesome guy live in about 60 days, im so freakin hyped!!!

As a female, I truly don’t know if I am getting or making the right sound, because it doesn’t sound as deep since I don’t have a deep voice. Any tips for making it sound deeper and more “throaty”?😂

Will just kinda stares into ones soul but hes a great guy i really like him and how he helps his community in achieving their goals as with this tutorial

Love how you show technique in harsh vocals. It's allot harder than people think.

BIG INBEFORE SAYING : They do say :warm up before " but he immediately talks anout the sigh stuff. I insists. First, do basic normal warm up. How the hell someone with such a high level of practice could pass over so quick about the warm up when its almost the most important thing.... I reallly want to say this : FREAKING WARM UP YOUR VOICE INBEFORE ANYTHING. Wether you sing, scream, fry, murmure or.whisper (especially for whispers and true screams) WARM. UP YOUR VOICE. hell, even warm your body. Do the trembling lips. The "lalalalilalolalulale" excercise going high and down... etc... Don't jump off bed and directly start doing harsh vocals. You'll regret it. I don't.mean you won't succeed to do it, I mean : you'll get way better results. AND, you'll keep your voice. ! This should be said and put on emphasis by every singer ever. Also, stop calling the use of voc tech "screams" à screams is something that can't be manufactured. It's just pushing your voice to its maximum. thus tearing your vocal cords. I can speak to you with a normal volume using fry or guttural. That's what you want to aim for. Then you add power and volume

Este tipo es un animal..... Lo que logra con la voz es increíble

wow that is insane!!

Aww so heart warming to see this.. Thanks a lot for sharing everything like this.. Will Ramos is wonderfull and so are you,. Keep up the good stuff.

My voice sounds much closer to Cris in the subtle breathiness in the back of it where as Will has a more thick "vocal" presence