I have a Xeon E5 2670 and it's WONDERFUL, and if you can snag one of these systems for like $150 or less, then it's a great price...AND it has a decent power supply?? PLUS, you can stream using the CPU encoder which is much higher quality than AMD's VCE. GOOD FIND!
If the GPU is artefacting then based on my experience, that PSU isn't enough to drive the system. The CPU chugs watts like it's at a hot dog eating competition and Polaris GPUs are extremely inefficient and power hungry despite their cheap price. Add to that the fans on the beefy cooler, 1.5V ram sticks, HDD and SSD as well as anything else and you are boarderline running out of PSU capacity. Even on PCPartpicker it will estimate your system chewing around 410W while you are powering the system with a 425W PSU. The GPU didn't artefact on your test rig because it had sufficient power. Either get a 75W - 120W GPU, downgrade the CPU to something less demanding, downclock the CPU or upgrade the PSU to fix. I used to have a Sandy bridge i5 with a GTX 1050 Ti running on a 265W PSU, let's just say I had to deal with shutdowns, freezes and blue screens until I upgraded my PSU
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"It's cheaper to get into PC gaming than it is to get into console gaming if you're willing to buy some used parts." Brian, there is a bit of a problem with this argument; You can also buy a used console. I get what you're saying though, PC gaming is more approachable than it seems to be on the surface.
In my country is way cheaper to build a pc plus its the games part, that on consoles you have to buy them, on pc you can download pirated games. A risk you have to take when youre poor
And games are cheaper on pc and a pc is upgradable so you don’t have to buy a new one every 2 years and a pc is fixable you don’t have to send it to someone you don’t know and pay them a lot to fix it you just buy the replacement part and pop it in
@@JimTheKid and let's not forget the quality of most games are far superior than console. As owner of both I should just sell my consoles because the experience is horrible compared to PC.
Saved this video because my laptop had the activation watermark on it. A few months ago I tried to purchase a license and the link did not work. Today I accidently clicked on this video in my saved file and tried the link again. This time it worked and even got the discount using the code. Made the purchase and retrieved the key but it did not work. Chatted with customer service and Marco was able to send me another code which I tried and that one worked. Everything is great again. Thanks!
maybe superbuy is a good option for you (and others buying more than 1 item). You can buy RX 580 (4g) for €45-50 the downside is that the shipping cost is expensive if only buy one. But lets say you buy 5 of them you can probably get them under €300 with shipping.
I actually managed to receive a retired one from work, and here are some pointers you get your hand on one: > The handle Brian smashed with a hammer can actually be drilled out without damage to the panel, it's only spot welded. > As long as you update the BIOS (you can do so with a utility called Dell Command Update), a 2687 should be a nice drop in replacement. > I would not push anything less power efficient than a GTX 1080. I grabbed a R9 Fury for 90 USD and no dual 6 pin to 8 pin adapters would run the card stable. I would only recommend cards that require 2 6 pins, at most.
I bought a Dell Precision T1600 end of 2019 and put in an RX 570 8GB, a USB 3 expansion card and a new PSU. The T1600 uses the E3-1200 series Xeons. Another cool thing with the T1600 is it uses a standard ATX PSU so no proprietary power supply.
Nice Video Bro ....... But You MISSED SOMETHING ...... Having been Doing Dell Mods for some time ...... here are some Tips 1) Go to tech Power Up Site and Download ThrottleStop Software. You can OVERCLOCK (in Windows) this system via ThrottleStop upto at least 4.1 GHz on all 6 Cores on this LOCKED DELL SYSTEM. Surprised?? I have been doing it since last 2 years. 2) Using Dual Channel Memory Bandwith on a System that Supports Quad Channel is a waste considering that Registered ECC DDR3 RAM are available at throwaway prices. You will be amazed with the bump up in performance by OCing CPU to 4.1 GHz and Quad Channel Memory Combined. My personal favorite is though the Precision T3500 because you can replace its Dell Propriety PSU with an aftermarket PSU which you cannot do in T3600. Also the Case for T3500 is bigger which allows many Cooling Mods which I have done. BTW T3500 also supports 6C/12T Xeons.
I was able to remove that internal handle by jamming a screwdriver under it and popping the spot welds off. It took a bit of time but it looks a lot cleaner imo
For things like War thunder you want a giant screen, spotting enemies is a LOT easier with more real estate as enemy tanks and planes can often be just a few pixles big
I have 4 of these systems that I built up as gaming rigs, you just have to click activate a few times, the COA for Windows 7 Pro will register for Windows 10 Pro
Correct . In my case the Windows License Keys were stored on the MB in form of Digital License, so as soon as I connected to internet and tried activating it got activated.
I did a build with a Xeon e5-2667v2. Fantastic clockspeeds for an 8 core from that day and age. A total beast. All the HP z400 and z420 builds I've built has had people talking about these Dells as well, but the Dell variants around these parts were BTX (at least the x58 ones) and not case swappable like the z400s. Really dig this, thanks for the vid!
I have dual AIO water cooling radiator in front (you will loose dvd bay) it pushes the air through the front mesh. Rear fan is flipped as intake fan. You could bolt a 90 mm fan on that mesh in the back, although there are no fan holes its very doable still.
I've switched from a 24" 60Hz FHD monitor to a 29" 75Hz 2560x1080 UltraWide last year and I like it a lot. Reason is that I do not play any competitive games and for single player games like Witcher/Skyrim,etc this looks great and its even more 'Immersive' at least for me. Sure some games still have issues with this screen aspect ratio and I have to look for a fix online but that I can deal with. On a sidenote,this ~160 USD setup would cost something like 270-300 USD where I live 'middle EU'.:P
Can even go bigger: the T5810 and lineup siblings have a Haswell/Broadwell capable C612 chipset and support 768GB of DDR4. If you’re nuts you can then run the 22C/44T v4 Xeons like the 2699v4. Only downside is the Dell OE board doesn’t support overclocking or engineering sample chips.
i used a rx480 and fx 8350 for few yrs and still runs most games above 100fps, i switched and i now use that fx PC as my 2nd storage/streaming pc. they still have enough power to play most games just fine, its not a 2080ti, but it will give you a very playable experiecne.
I use dual 1080p 144hz G-Sync (compatible mode via Freesync) and wouldn't want anything bigger for anything TBH. First time with VA panels and I'm sold on that tech for now, too.
I upgraded a similar Dell system. I ended up drilling out the rivets on the brace in order to get the side panel on. Your way looked a little bit quicker!
There's also the HP Z2xx CMT workstations that can be made into pretty good gaming PCs with prices (at least in the UK) starting at around £50 (without shipping) on ebay for a unit that you have to add a processor, RAM, storage and a graphics card to. I however, managed to snag a Z210 CMT with an i5 2400 and 4GB RAM for around £60 with the only extra costs being £30 for 16GB RAM and around £50 for a 250GB SSD (there's also a USB 3 card I added, but that has a few issues so it's likely to be taken out once I have a replacement) as I already had a 1050Ti and two hard drives that I was going to move to it from another PC (I didn't have to pay for a windows 10 license as the system still had its windows 7 pro license key attached which was good for activation windows 10 pro).
Got mine (T5600) in a company decommissioning...for its $0 (its book value) in late 2018. Dual E5-2667, 32GB R-EEC 1600 DDR3, and 825W PS. I thru in a GTX 970 OC'd (for $120 in early 2019) and recently upgraded to dual E5-2689's (which together cost $160). 16C/32T beast. CB R15 score is 2200. With new SSD I invested a total of $350 for this rig. ..oh...and I also recycled and old Dolby 7.1 audio card from my dead Dell XPS 420. Also, a recent office-lab cleaning and a junked T5600 with bad motherboard was tossed into the outside bin. I managed to retrieve the CPU coolers & PS in case of future failures. They are expensive to replace, per eBay prices. You can customize these rigs...there is a RU-vid site for this: Green PC Gamers; where changing out OEM air cooling for third party coolers is explained, etc. I also blinged this thing a bit. Took some Vinyl Carbon adhesive roll that I bought on eBay, the stuff used for car exteriors, and cut it to fit the side panel...just to spruce it up a bit for home office use. A nice black, red or other carbon 3D color makes this looks less business and more fun, though it is a beast for multi tasking and rendering. The downside...BIOS is locked...certainly on the dual T5600. Which means the locked E5's with large core counts are preferred. I went with the E5-2689, which is an OEM special that is well priced and a solid performer. All core clock in turbo is at just under 3.2GHz. Don't ask me about power consumption...I suppose this thing draws some serious wattage. No issue for me. Hey Brian..if you want a couple of E5-2667's I can post them to your address, snail mail.
Dell T3600 Xeon E5-1650 max.3,8GHz; 16GB-RAM; 256GB-SSD+1TB-HD = 299€ + RX 480 4GB = 65€ Here in Germany the same system costs 377€ ! A system with a Ryzen 5 1600 = 65 € + B450 board = 50 € + 2 x 8Gb ddr4 3000 = 50 € + case = 20 € + 120Gb SSD = 20 € + 1TB HDD = 20 € power supply 500W = 20 € + RX 480 4GB = 65€ cost Here in Germany 310€ ! Which of the two systems makes more sense? I think the Ryzen system is better! not only because of the price! the parts are more modern and safer in the future!
I also made some very good deals. Just bought 15 untested Xeon 2620v2 with one 2603v2 for 19€. 15 of the 16 CPUs actually worked. Then I got a 2630v2 for 12€ and a new LGA 2011 Board for 65€. I paired that with 16 Gigs of ECC REG DDR3 for 20€ and a GTX 780ti for 80€. For this system I spend 40€ for a PCIe SSD. So basically for 220€. I had a power supply laying around and also 2 TB of HDD storage, just missing a case
In terms of monitor size, i would say it depends of what distance you are of the monitor, if you have a bigger table, a 27 inch is better if you look it from further away vs a 24 inch, but when i have went to a friends house to play pc games with him and he gives me almost a coffe table to play, then a 22 inch is obviously much better, lol. As for now since i use my pc for work, i got an ultrawide and never looked back, best thing ever in that regard.
My buddy was going to buy a gaming laptop for £800. I asked him how he felt about a desktop instead. He said great. One optiplex and a gtx 1650 later (his choice) he was feeling good, and about £500 better off. He is also getting familiar with system building. Thanks for the info!
This particular model came with the 430w psu which will give an error in the bios if you've got a graphics card plugged into the add on pcie extension cable. Any of the power supplies for that model use the same daughter board tht will accept the same pcie extension cables. Be careful with which one you choose. Any of the higher wattage power supplies won't have that issue
Would have dremeled that side panel down so it can stay shut. Also would have mounted a fan behind the CPU and in the front. Couldn't hurt anything and might solve the thermals.
You should look at his other x58 Xeon vids, you could get a Xeon, an overclockable x58 Motherboard, and a decent cooler, you'd be able to overclock to at least 4.0 GHz, the xeons are really cheap too
BTW,artefacting - hade missing textures in PUBG,and some funny effects in GTA V's menus,but,not in the game itself..... Not in other games,as well. The card is Radeon RX 570 4 GB.... Would love to hear any ideas in order to fix it ? Why only some games ?
There's not much you can do really, if it happens in more than one game it could be a dying VRAM chip on the graphics card. You can try downloading the latest drivers or lowering the Memclock in MSI Afterburner, just don't "bake" your graphics card in the ofen like so many people suggest, stinks up your house and is only a temporary fix.
@@MegaHellstrike Thanks !!! I'll try to do so,if it will not work,will XRAY it,then,try to repair . I do have some acsess to diagnostic/repair capabilities . 8)
I totally agree with this solution. I went a slightly more 'luxury' route. My HP Z420 workstation has the same Xeon E5-1650V3 processor but I re-used my Radeon RX580 GPU. The Z420 has a stock 600W PSU and with the use of a dual 6 into 8 power adapter it carries the load fine. I bought a Barracuda 500GB SSD and a 2TB HDU also Barracuda. I chose the HDU specifically because it is 7200RPM with a 256MB on-board cache. I spent approximately $150 more than you did but I use my workstation for everything. My type of gaming is RPG of one form or another and this system has more than enough grunt to run something like Elite Dangerous or No Man's Sky. Actually a really good performance test is Cities Skyline. On a large simulation it really loads up the GPU and the CPU. I also use my Z420 for Davinci Resolve, Reaper, Inkscape, Fusion 360 and Design Spark Mechanical. That's the great thing about using an old workstation, it's an enterprise grade solution that mere mortals can afford. My advice is buy the most loaded version that works for your budget. Don't think about upgrading the CPU or the RAM because it can quickly blow your budget and then these old machines don't make sense. Don't consider buying anything with less than 16GB of memory. Mine came with 32GB but I knew I was going to need the extra space for some of the non-gaming applications I use. A lot of vendors will strip out the CPU and memory to sell separate. It's fairly easy to upgrade the Z420 PSU to a stock ATX if you really need to run that 1080TI. In a couple of years or so I'll upgrade to either a Z440 or a Z840 (mmm, Dual Xeons). BTW the aggro with hammer wasn't strictly necessary, It would have been a lot quicker and cleaner with a Dremel tool.
In cast of T3600 you cannot replace Dell Propriety PSU with an Aftermarket PSU. BUT in case of T3500 you can do it without any issues. That's why T3500 is my favorite. Its cheaper too and also support 6C/12T Xeons andcan be Overclocked via TS / XTU .
Used to work in a pc shop that sold old workstations refurbished with gaming graphics cards as gaming machines. The z420 are really good and can power 1080ti's
My only worry about this build is regarding the health of the hdd and how long it might last the future user. That drive says it was made in April 2010.
I remember watching a video of him using break cleaner without acetone And I believe he also uses wd 40 I'd ask the yes man directly before applying such chems
Hey Bryan. Tech Yes Price Performance Budget Gaming! Woohoo. Bargain! 24" monitors are great for gaming. 22" are also good. . Cheers, Mon from Brisbane.
Over here in Brazil used pc parts aren't cheap, this workstation is about 500US$ used for the quad-core version whiteout the GPU on our ebay equivalent
I got a MSI RX580 8GB and 600 watt EVGA 80+ PSU and 2x4GB 2400 DDR4 RAM for $110, then I picked up a m.2 248GB SSD off ebay for $30 and a m.2 to SATA adapter so I can use it with older PC's if I go that route. Still need a case, motherboard and processor though, so this might be a great option for me. Did have everything plugged into an HP Pavilion Slimeline s5580t with an i5 650 @ 3.2ghz but the motherboard died on me.
I have an 18inch CRT. 1024 X 768. 😀 The quality and brightness and clarity is amazing. Plus I can run GTA V at max settings at 85fps locked all day long. CRT for the people.
I think 1440p is the sweet spot if you have the right card. With that being said my favorite used/discounted price combo when I have to build systems for people on a budget lately is a new B450 mobo, 1st or 2nd gen ryzen as they can be had for cheap even new, and a used 1070 cause it's just the sweet spot for a 5-600 dollar gaming rig.
Problem I've had since returning to the UK from Oz is that the prices in the used market are appalling. The same machine from eBay or marketplace sells for around $200 just for the T3600 with lower specs. Shipping from abroad is out as well as the cost of postage jumps the price up to around a similar price point. I've had more luck flipping old Core 2 Duo/Quads with SSD's for people wanting a day to day machine but obviously a smaller profit per machine.
yeah but the problem is that those deals are almost impossible for the regular Joe, for example in my country a machine like this costs like 400 usd...
I think its called something like "all purpose cleaner" or something like that - dont take me up on that, search his channel, he has a video on "tech yes loving" that is his cleaning method. But long story short, its WD40 knockoff... You can use WD40, he has done that too, but this is the same, for cheaper, and the yesman is always going for them deals.
I sold working station with Xeon E3-1240 V3 CPU, it was a huge mistake. Gaming on this computer was the best. I will never do it again because the CPU temperature was about 58 Celsius, and it was the most silent machine I ever had. In pair with XFX HD 7770 GPU it was great in games I play (WOT, Civilization II and III, etc...). On Passmark this CPU has about 7100 points and it is fantastic base to build a gaming machine.
I went from an old 32-inch flatscreen tv to a philips 247e4 (23.6 inch) Took me about 2-3 weeks to adjust to the smaller screen. I prefer the smaller screen when playing games like Rust and Halo 2 multiplayer. But in the future when i upgrade my gpu i'll also go back to a 32 with high refresh-rate.
I have a dell t7500 with a Xeon 5680 6 cores 24 gb ram and a r9290x i picked up cheap and added a usb 3 card 4gb hd Runs games 1080 p high/ ultra and high med 1440p I play older games 2013 area and older , also powers an occulus rift s nicely. I plan to get a better gpu once the market sorts it self out a little more. These are nice machines to get into pc gaming and tweak just a bit to get some good performance on the cheap. :)
I actually use a 43" UHD 4K TV (Philips) and typically window the game to optimize FOV. OK...latency is great for a TV but not monitor level; at my age...response time is already good enough! TV was acquired on super sale for $340, about 1 year ago.
Hey Bryan, talking about those video artifacts, hope this can help you. I noticed my MSI RX 580 Gaming X starts acting a little weird (but not nearly as much as your GPU) when temps are in high 70s. A custom fan curve solved the issue during hot summer days. I noticed this behaviour only during very hot days while gaming with a little overclock on both core (+60MHz) and memory (+240MHz) but still at stock voltage and stock fan curve, otherwise GPU always stays in the low 70s in my case with zero problems. Cheers!
I just put together a simular build. Dell precision T3500 with a 4c8t Xeon and 12gb ram (6x2gb) in triple channel putting out well over 100 fps in Fortnite paired with a gtx 1050ti 4gb. I got the Dell broken from a guy (turned out to have 2 bend cpu pins), had the RAM left over and picked up the gpu for 75 euro which was also the total money spend I guess ;) Loving that used price performance :D
Hey I had a dell precision T3500. It had a xeon w3530, upgraded it to a x5675 and it was good to go. The system had a 80+ silver rated PSU so I coupled it with a 1050ti (could have got a 570/580 but I got a great deal) added in some ram and I had a system for around $130 (US). I gave it to a friend who was getting into PC gaming and it fit perfectly for him.
Good Man. T3500 is Cool. Unlike T3600, in T3500 you can replace Dell PSU with an aftermarket PSU without any issue (in case if the need arises). Also with larger case lots of cooling mods are possible.
@@manojgupta3770 Yeah I thought about modding it but I wouldn't know where to start besides swapping cases since the default one is so unwieldy. I did consider switching the power supply when I was debating on a 580, but it worked out since the included PSU is decent with a (relatively) strong 12 volt line.
@@laynewoodruff7502 at least add a 90 mm fan to the CPU HS, a 60 mm fan on North bridge and in my case I even put on my Old Dead Laptop's HS on the Southbridge of T3500. T3500's NB and SB becomes very hot ater few hours of work. Check this out.
I still have a 27inch 1080p 90Hz Freesync monitor that i got with a Sapphire Nitro+ RX480 8GB OC for $200. Though, i did upgrade to something much better, I still find myself gaming on that particular PC with that monitor.
A bit misleading since these t3600 cost a lot more around the world(in Australia as well probably). This was a one-off deal in my eyes. If you live in some cities around the world where there are big companies you might be able to get similar deals occasionally, but overall this is almost impossible to replicate. If you are looking to build a PC in that price range($220-$250 I'd say) I believe the e5 2620 v3(x99 platform) is the best option at the moment. You can get the parts from AliExpress. For slightly more the e5 2689(x79) continues to be the top dog. And for slightly more... Ryzen :)
whenever I play on computer cafe's with 34'' monitors, I always resize my games to 1360x768 because it is easier for me who's used on playing on that kind of resolution, thumbs up for the vid! I hope I can find and buy a computer like this
Any chance you'll be doing a X99/E5-2678V3 setup review video? Seems like the prices are coming down for the CPUs themselves, and the Aliexpress X99 boards seem quite affordable now. Plus, the E5-2678V3 has both DDR3/4 memory controllers, which would make this an appealing alternative to X79/X58 platforms.
The larger monitor thing is just your brain being jarred by the sudden large change in size I think. I've been using a 50" TV for about 8 years now (first 1080, now 4k, about 3' from the screen) for my main monitor and at least in my own case, after about a week or two my peripheral vision retrained itself and now it's jarring to me to work on anything smaller than a 32". I have been wanting to go high refresh though, so I am going to have to downsize, though the new LG 37.5" 3840x1600 looks like a winner.
