How to get kicked out of K1 Speed Indoor Kart Racing 

Guy kicked you both out to cover his abysmal marshalling skills.

Yea you shouldn't have been kicked out or even in trouble. 100% not your fault

im a supervisor at k1 san diego there was no reason for them to take you out of the race. they did not wave a yellow flag and if the kart did break they should have switched it.

Wait so the guy spins, you can't see him cause of the flagsman in front of the turn, who should be on the other side of that wall for that exact reason, and you spin trying not to hit him and get kicked out?! That's absolutely moronic

i see no flags not your fault dude :)

wait a minute the guy spins and the marshal is NOT waving the yellow flag it is up to the marshals to let the driver know if there is an accident or anything dangerous ahead

From a k1 speed track official (me) that was not your fault, the flagger should have been waving the yellow flag (caution) but the video proves other wise, you should have been able to keep going and finish the race

That is complete BS and I would have taken that video to the owner or higher up. There was no way for you to see that and avoid it. Your driving was spot on and in always in complete control.

wow for real. money back or something. that's y I don't go to k1. that wasn't your fault. were was the flag.

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Their track rules suck

Corner worker doesn't throw yellow for spin, blames driver blindsided by the pole in the middle of the line of sight and kicks you out. elegiggle

Yeah everybody is on your side on this one. You were probably the best driver on the track when that happened and that was totally unavoidable

A few years ago at the Arizona location, i had a really nasty crash. There was a hairpin turn that was at the end of a straight and i just hit the brake slightly too hard and i spun out sideways bringing me to a complete stop. About 2 seconds later the guy behind me going full speed tboned me. It didnt hurt much but his cart ended up partially on top on mine so everyone freaked out lol. They asked me if i was alright then i was back to racing. Its dumb how you got kicked out for something minor like that.

That's really stupid you both got kicked off! The person in front of you couldn't help for spinning out, there should've been a warning and you couldn't see around the turn to begin with. Crashes happen but by all means, that was a legit unintentional accident. I blame the people who were watching, kicking both of you off is dumb. They should be more concerned about both of your safeties! The polite thing to do is to walk it off and then hope back in. If I was the manager, I would've said something to all of them!

the marshal wasn't even waving the yellow flag so not your fault atal

kinda bullshit to throw someone out for a wreck they couldn't control. it was a blind corner and that guy was sitting in the racing groove. i know they have policies about horseplay and being rough, but that was just an accident.

Can you feather the throttle in the electric karts? Also, I'm not sure why you would be kicked out over that incident. The spin was partially obscured by the pole and flag guy. There was very little time for you to react. I don't believe you acted in an unsafe manner--it was just racing incident

not your fault. Btw your a good driver

Drive flawlessly with no mistakes Guy infront makes a mistake and the refs don't warn it. Due to that you bump into the kart. Ref "sorry you need to go" Fallout guy:Excuse me wtf?

Rewatched it a couples times; no fellow flag, no intentional ‘drift’, no reckless driving. I can’t see anything wrong with what u did. Hope you got your money back xD

Honestly there really wasn't much that could be of been done to avoid it. You shouldn't of been kicked out. Unfortunately every center runs by different rules and tolerances.

Nothing wrong on your part, no flags and that pole obstructed your veiw

I'd ask for money back or something, could of shown the video to them and they would of been in the same situation.

stuff like this (that is, showing their employees making incorrect assumptions) is probably why they told me i couldn't use my action camera last time i went (houston location)

Not your fault at all, there was no yellow flag or anything. Nice driving !

Thats some incredibly awesome pov driving footage.

They've really changed the layout in Austin since then, twice actually. But from the last one to the current the changes aren't as drastic. I never raced it on the layout you did, looks fun, now they have a lot of fast to slow transitions not so many turns. Fastest lap for me in the last layout was 28.616, on the current track 32.699

If you got thrown out for this, the guys running the race must not have been paying attention, heard the noise, and assumed you were to blame (though you could've braked a tad earlier or just gone around like the guy behind you did). This is actually a fairly common karting incident, especially with weekend crowds, so that's definitely overkill by removing you from the race. Karting places tend to be really inconsistent with their assessments of individual situations, but in my opinion, the guy that spun out in front of you should've gotten a warning to be more careful and you probably should've received one as well to pay more attention to what's going on in front of you instead of kicking you out.

Same thing happened to me at our track last weekend. There's nothing you can do and it's a pretty hard hit. Although I knew, it made me realize you can get hurt on their karts. I would've let this go assuming both of you guys had been running clean the whole time you were there. I think you were, don't know about the other guy.

Watching this over, the red padding on the post totally obscures the view of the spun out racer until the last second when Nathan spins into him.

I've had that happen before. After graduation, a couple of my friends and I went to an indoor go-kart track to celebrate. One friend spun the other one out in a blind corner. I t-boned him right as I was getting back on the gas and apparently broke some pieces off of our karts. We were allowed to finish the race in 2 mph limp mode but were then made to sign papers afterwards saying we would not sue and would never ride their go karts again. They closed down anyway so no big loss I guess.

I just went racing at K1 and literally got RUN OVER (as in, his kart ended up on top of me before it stopped), and they still didn't kick him out, or really reprimand him in any way. The way it happened was someone pit maneuvered me and then the guy behind him apparently didn't think to use his brakes and went quick enough to end up on top of me and my kart. No apology, no real concern whatsoever. Have some gnarly bruises. The steering wheel mount was completely broken from it.

This video is unnecessarily long for a 40 second incident

agree with all - totally not your fault. great driving!

The guy had just spun so the marshal didn’t have enough time to wave the yellow flag because u were close to him so i dont think we can blame this on anyone

What did the official at the end of the video even say?

It's obvious you attempted to avoid him so it's definitely not fair either of you were kicked for that.

I don’t think the flagsman really understood the laws of motion

Man Hahah still looking forward to your next motovlogxD

NOT your fault. That flagman was watching the incoming traffic on the other side of the track giving his back to the your turn that he "supposed" to be watching ! he never saw your crash. DON'T let stupid things like this makes you stop racing because idiots shouldn't slow you down !

Bad workmanship here. Nothing was signaled, and you cant even see the kart stopped until he rounded the corner. I have raced at K1 in Orlando,FL and its fun, but overpriced

Was wanting to check them out, thanks for the warning

dude nice control on corner entry u were really rockin it

That was neither one of your faults, just a genuine mistake! Unavoidable, definitely did not deserve to be kicked off for it...

I’ll never go there....

Wow you must have been doing at least 10mph ..... impressive

I work at a K1 Ive yet to see anyone removed even after a KART ON KART more times than I can count. Even after grown adult racers aim their karts at smaller racers. I finally found out and started the rule to be put on a green square to run at the highest speed you must run at our track consistent non bumping or slamming/crashing into barriers/walls/other Karts to obtain the Top Speed Green Squares. Had the mother of a small daughter that was tall enough to race to the smallest inch within the limits. First lap at speed the mother slammed into the daughter hard hit. When we got to her she was dazed then convulsed. Shocked told the mother who didn’t even turn to her daughter to check on her then calmly said oh she has epilepsy. We asked do you wanted to check on her as we had the field stopped. She replied no you can push her off the track so we can race. Again it was the Mom who wrecked her. Pushed her off into the pits allowed her to sit in the kart in the pits until the race was over sat with her giving her water and cool wet wash cloth until calm. Because I have a daughter I pictured my daughter sitting there. See the just big enough for the adult karts roughed up and like the before in this beginning of this post get away with it. I started my daughter at 5 in Orlando at Lil 500 she went threw each graduation to fast karts family owned track knew and practiced the limits in speed when racing with smaller children because of Father Don Schmidt Sr & JR and their daughter. Not a “CORPORATE FACILITY” but family run. Being in Orlando have numerous indoor and Outdoor tracks and facilities. They are practice safety the same even the K1 of course in Orlando we have much kart racing within 20 minutes of each other. Never felt endangered more real racers and regulars. Those who didn’t were and still are removed and noted on their information in the computer systems. Why I only race at the outdoor tracks in Dallas Ft Worth. It pains me jobs a job I do all I can to keep them safe. I dare say this doesn’t go in Orlando Tracks nor the tracks down south near Miami or any track in Florida.

How is that your fault

I really hope you got your money back this wasn’t even your fault the guy didn’t wave the yellow flag.

Yesterday I was racing my dad and in the first race, I took a corner WAYYYYYYY to hot and hit the wall so hard you could hear it from across the track (K1 Littleton Colorado

I rewatched this multiple times and I couldn't see the other guy at all until it was to late

Hows that your fault when there was no yellow flag??? It was a blind corner with no warning. Clearly you tried to avoid the collision

Why do the tracks suck when i watch these? Like i've been in alot better indoor tracks!

I worked at k1 in Dallas. As long as there's no kart on kart no One should be kicked out. Make sure both parties are ok and continue the race.

Technically it's not your fault. I did the same thing similar a few years ago, my nutter of a friend who was winning spun out and I pretty much came in at speed and did the same thing you did. Didn't get kicked out though as they had cameras in there at the time and saw it was accidental. I ended up 4th in the end overall though so pretty good for me :D

Its why K1 and electric karts suck.

You were fine !! I went once and I did not know how to drive because every time I stepped on the petal it would drive so fast so I was scared to crash they stopped me twice and told me I was gonna break it and get kicked out if I didn’t stop lol

The same thing happened to me. Also, my lap record for the Austin 28.7

He kicked you out? For what? I missed something! You were amazingly cool about it. I would have been pissed!

Good thing you got this on video. You didn't do anything wrong.

You were turning them corners clean brah

it seems like k1 tends to have less than great marshaling at some locations. i had an experience recently in denver where someone two karts ahead of me was going slowly and got a blue flag, let the person directly behind get half a kart length ahead, then overtake them and ignore persistent blue flags and pit signs. didn’t get a black flag even though they directly ignored the stewards and the basic rules of racing.

Last week, at the Toronto location, I’d gone wide through a hairpin after the long straight+ fast right hander to pass a car that was on a different line…once I passed, the slower car apparently tboned me at high speed, he didn’t get kicked, Marshall saw me shake it off and drive off, gave the guy a stern talking to, and that’s it. How you could have avoided that accident is beyond me. You should have shouted : MICHAEL, IT’S NOT RIGHT!

Im back 4 years later thanks rona

This looks exactly like the K1 I go to occasionally, are they all the same?

This track looks so much better than the one we have in orlando. Our's is way to small and tight. It makes it nearly impossible to pass.

As someone who works here, he did NOT get kicked out for driving recklessly or anything. He got kicked out because the accident was pretty serious and is what we call a Kart On Kart. It is policy for when a Kart On Kart happens, to pull the drivers from the race. Sadly no refund.

The moment he crashed the other dude did a hella good drift

Was that at the Dublin, CA location?

Something like that happened to me today. I lost it around the chicane and I got side swiped by a guy, but we didn't get kicked out.

I don't kick out people when this happend. They are wrong. Why did they don't switch off the kart ?? (I work in a go-kart place in switzerland)

The wind is the best thing about this video

Your better off going to On Track Experience in Kyle, Tx. It's not to far from Austin and it's right off the 35. Nice outdoor oval track with karts that go up to 65 mph way better than any electric karts.

The corner marshall not only did not wave the yellow, he was not even watching his corner.

The flag guys all do the same thing. They watch the car/karts coming towards them at turn entry instead of coming out of the turns so they do not see the spins until after the spins. They also wave the yellows AFTER the spins which is too late.

I had a similar experience at a K1 place in Atlanta, GA. Same thing, office team went there for group fun. as i was coming around a turn, i got knocked from behind was was shoved into the opposite wall. The operator, who wasn't really paying attention, came over and accused ME of being reckless, and they turned down the power of my cart. Since we were running time trials for prizes, really pissed me off. Won't go back there again....

Best thing you can do on these electric cart tracks is to never let off the throttle. Find the groove even if you are “ drifting “ a little and keep laying it down. Take the necessary turns wider and hit it at a different apex. Fly into and out of the curves, don’t let them be an obstacle. You are definitely getting there and if you have “ raced” often enough after filming you are probably having to slow down to have any fun racing with other people. It gets really old being in the lead. Making time is way more fun than track records.

No way you could have reasonably told he'd spun watching the footage, when you did realise you tried to stop, even swerved and impact was a lot slower than if you'd not. Bad marshalling without a doubt, most places wouldn't have taken you off and would have reviewed why the guy spun there as it was unusual as he would have been expected to be preparing for the left turn after.

Wow exact same thing happened to me about a year ago, blind corner, no flag and it happened so quick i couldn't correct the kart but none of us were asked to leave after and it all proceeded as normal

The helium of Go Kart tracks

i had a very similar type of deal at wilmington where there was a bunch of us going nose to tail through a fast part of track the slow car in front of our nose to tail group spun. first guy stopped short of me and I went on top of him but I didn't get kicked out. It must have something to do with the people that were working there.

That's just insane. I would have laughed at them so hard for throwing me out over some trivial BS such as that. Heck, years ago when I was still in High School, we were at a local track and I was one of the last ones back to pit and instead of slowing down and stopping I just plowed into the back of the line full throttle. Knocked the first 2 cars all the way back on the track. The lady directly in front of me got out holding her neck. I fully expected to be escorted off the property for that stunt, and was. This? I just can't believe they are that strict. I've seen far worse, on purpose and not get called.

I think they got mad because he drifted so hard and for so long but you didn’t create any problems and you didn’t cause the crash.

Defo not your fault. Even from the footage is basically we see what you see, he spun out in a blind spot and you didn't know he spun out until it was too late. Just uploaded 2 heats from go karting after not go karting for 12 years. Awesome videos.

Nice corners well done.

I got black flagged three times during a race at Unser Racing. The manager and two employees pulled me off to the side after the race and said I was being too aggressive while driving. They also said I was driving too fast. Now I will admit I was drifting in every turn, but how is that aggressive... They gave me another chance on the track, but kicked me out after that one because the same reasons and because I accidentally slammed into another driver while he was stopped. The track I was in has a huge blind spot where you can’t see any employees or drivers until it’s too late, so it’s not my fault I smacked into him.

Good to know that this is a place not to go to!

Ok guys the guy was only spun for a couple of seconds. The marshal was ok to miss the crash because he was scanning another area. However there is no way they should have been kicked out though

Did you show the footage to k1? And is so, what did they do about it?

I would say because of the crash they more than likely arnt allowed the cart back onto the track before it's been checked out by someone. It's probably just a health and safety issue.

Even though you got Disqualified for bad marshall skills you showed good sportsmanship here! You could be an F1 driver in the future like the pictures of F1 cars and drivers on the walls

Now I know where not to go when karting. Personally never been but it looks entertaining.

Looked to me that column with the tyres on it was a pretty decent blind spot and this was just a racing accident. They could kick the column out but the building would fall down.

They kicked you out for what? Having a split second to make a decision after there were not even any flags waving? Nice job K1. I have been to this track a couple times and I've been lucky with officials (Them being good officials, I mean). But damn that's messed up how BOTH of you got kicked out for that ACCIDENT. Oh and I posted a 28.5 as my best time. Keep on karting bro.

Are you in Austin?

That's a blind corner. That pole was in the way exactly where the guy was spun out. You could have gotten the facility in trouble if you wanted to. Unless the waiver they have you sign also covers that.

No flags, that was real dumb. Not even your fault. Anyways, nice vid man!

lol is that the one in austin too???

Haven't been to the one in Austin but was just at the one in Orlando there very fast and the steering wheel is harder to steer than I thought