I have animals,ins on my kit, too… sometimes it can be a bit of a pain - I have to tune before every gig, although I’m getting very quick at it due to all the practice 😊
You're straight up one of the first people who isn't trying to sell me some secret sauce and really be real about how the musician, kit and how they play together really affects the sound and not just all the crazy expensive gear, etc etc. Officially a big fan!
the most important thing is to invest in a dehumidifier. if the rain OUTSIDE is making that much of a difference INSIDE, you will definitely damage your audio equipment (mics included) if that much humidity is coming in because of exterior rain / outdoor elements. Trust me dude, this is coming from experience.
Love hearing your sound and seeing your playing in context with jazz fusion players, more videos with this group if possible please and thank you, keyboard player shreds 😵
Dude, you're such a legend. Seriously! All of your jam videos are an absolute blast. But this sorta thing is what I live for. This isn't a drum sound I would use often, but it's probably a favorite drum tone of mine. And you just nail it, Sir! Thanks for taking us thru your setup. I really appreciate your casual approach to tuning. You just adjust until it sounds/feels right. Experience and personal aesthetic making for a killer result. A++
I thought this video was a joke at first, but it actually sounds very cool and makes a lot of sense on why you would want that sound for certain situations. Music is actually soo interesting this way.
@@omarcapaso7156 I took the samples on a USB in a format my kit prefers, like .wav with correct bitrate (you may need to consult the manual). Then plugged it into my drum module and imported the samples into memory. Then edited a user kit assigning the new sounds to each corresponding piece.
I’ve been on the fence for a while about trying something like this (or even halfway ‘dead’) with my kit at home. I love how you acknowledge the impact of the sound of the room itself, doors open/closed. So many people ignore all of the different variables that go into the sound of any instrument or voice or mix. I lead worship at a church that uses a pretty small venue, and a very lively room. I can see this type of set up for drums working super well in that context as most of our sets tend to be acoustic. Great work and thank you so much for sharing your process! You could’ve done a really quick two minute overview, but, showing how thorough you are in your process, speaks to the depth and seriousness that we should all use for our own context.
The beauty of sample packs are (or samples in general): It inspires you to play with the samples like pieces of Lego. Build new stuff out of tiny sound fragments. For example at 0:32 you could cut and edit the text "sample pack" to make the words "pample sack"... but I don't even know what a pample sack is.. which makes me think about my thought process when looking for a play of word that barely makes sense and isn't really funny. But at some point if you don't laugh at it, laugh at the person, laugh for someone trying to be funny at all cost or simply feeling embarrassed for people writing such terrible comments, then I guess you are super dead inside 🙂. Which brings me back to this video which is a joy to watch and really helpful. Keep it up!
we used to go down to the place as youths, you know the one, and well it was the popular thing at the time to get yourself maybe one, but probably 3 or 4 pamples, you know tie em together by the bpm, and hang em off your belt. One day Fred, that was my friend's name -Fred. Well one day Fred got the idea, you see his dad was a hobo. Like an honest to goodness bean eating, rail car riding, big rock candy mountain style hobo. And a hobo would often carry with him a bindle, that's not important to the story though, Fred, well Fred's hobo dad had a sack of potatoes we learned about from Fred's Mom, so we took the pamples (We had maybe 10 between the two of us, I forget, it was around the time 808 one hits would just. You know, who counts?) 10 maybe we had. and well, The long and short of it is Fred cut his thumb pealing the potatoes from the sack, and it got infected. So Margaret Thatcher (thats what Joe Biden's name was back then) banned pample's, and lord save me, they knew not to go after a mans sack, so we still got those, but you'd be hard pressed to get a good pample for it these days.
Nice dude. I had no idea there was so much customization in terms of how drums can be deadened for that funky sound. This will be perfect for me. I was just about to set my old kit back up that I've hardly ever played and only know a basic beat on but I really want to learn breakbeats and funk beats like the Interstate 76 soundtrack and this setup will be great for taht.
I have the super dead drum sample pack and the suuuuuper simple beats ARE THE BEST SONWRITING TOOL I'VE COME ACROSS IN ALONG TIME! seriously, vey often, I want just a simple beat to play along that is not too intrusive but still sound like a drumset. Somehow this has ben incredibly hard to do for other people (and drum machine manufacturers, sheehs, DR-600 was the last one with enough simplicity). Thank you so much for sample set you made!
Slabs of old blue jeans under the batter head. Folded dish towel electrical taped to the top of the batter head. That was my dads tuning method for my drums when I was a wee little one drumming at church and at home and in the little family band. I still hear everyone saying. YOU TOO LOUD EDDIE
By putting the bricks inside the drum you are mass loading the drum. As you add mass it lowers the fundamental pitch and quickens the decay. Try a 10 lb bag of rice. Put it in a pillowcase so you don't have any accidental spills. It has a better effect the more surface area makes contact with the shell. Back in the day they used to use a can of paint full of sand
Love Xaudia. I bought quite a few Ribbons from Stewart Tavener. He’s a top guy and knows what he’s doing. Have you ever tried the BM9’s he makes? I have a matched pair and they’re ridiculous
The "playing softer" is really interesting, recently got a pair of 14" 60s new beats and playing softer really helped removing that "bbwwoom" low frequency going on! Also what tape are you a fan of when taping cymbals, been trying a bit of moongel (hopefully won't stain it...) and seem to remove some nasty things but not as "dead" or dry as these one, probably because they're thick and 14s though Anyways defenitely going to get your kit someday, on my purchase list but also want to get into more playing myself :) Happy drumming!
Nice dead sounds. Love em! I would say one thing tho to the keyboard player, youre funky and have great groove, but your left hand is intruding on the poor bass player's territory. I used to do exactly the same thing on my Rhodes, I love those thwacky farty syncopations, but once on a gig when I was younger, a really good bass player took me aside and whispered to me - "If you do that again, I'll cut your F-ing left hand off" LOL he was right.
Here’s a fun thing. Meinel makes this thing called a beat box, and it has this crazy beater that comes with it. If you buy just the beater and modify it to work as a bass drum beater it sounds nuts. The beater is super wide and has a crazy soft head. I really dig it.
great tutorial jake, but tbh most people don't have so much mics and fancy gear to experiment with. it would be cool if you could do a tutorial on how to achieve this kind of sound with 4 or 5 mics and plugins only.
Let the mics do the work- but how to deal with their interferences? Did you delay your closed up mics to the overheads? Also wondering if you matched the transients recorded by the saltshaker together with the diaframe kick mics/ snare etc. If not, did you expect your several saturation plugins to blur the transients enough to cover the differences?
I grew up in the 70's with a super dead drums sounds. from disco to rock. I'm over it now. Doobies and Eagles sound so much better with fat drum sounds. I don't miss that sound. THUD.
God damn, do I want to hear a bit more high-end on those drums. I don't mean enough to kill that "dead drum" sound you're going for, but just a little bit more.
You want super dead drum sounds? It’s easy! You just buy the latest drum sets with all the latest flat (shallow) toms and bass drums that are so popular these days. You’ll get that sound right out of the box!
Was recording in Hansa in Berlin one week and the engineer wanted a dead drum sound from our drummer , so just went to the kitchen and got a clean tea towel and threw over each drum and stationary clipped each to each rim , magic sound ,
I love it.. The opening music sounds great. Sounds like what I used to record. 50 years ago. Back in 1973/4. When I was just 18. Yeah. I was working in the biggest recording studio complex. South of New York City. I was a young engineer. I got a real early start. I had already been engineering, a couple of years. My parents were great musicians. It may have been Mozart but. Daddy played violin tracks. For Motown. And I grew up in their control rooms starting at page 7. So yeah a real early start. Really really early. And so yeah a nice dead, room. For the drums. You put all sorts of gobbledygook on top of the drum heads. So they don't sit there and ring away. Hello? Is that the phone ringing? No. It's the rack top. Well get it! But I get really dead tight drums. In very live reverberant rooms. When I want to. As I use, lots of limiters. Oh. And lots of noise gates. Lots and lots of noise gates. And Voilà! Tight drums in a live room. I've been doing that for years and years. Decades actually. Numerous, decades. And it always gets me through. It's the fast cheap, easy way to go. No screwing around with the drums much. Now that might sound flippant and haphazard? It is. I am. But hey. Doing it that way. Got me multiple major music award nominations so? It works. It's fast. Tweak some knobs. Don't waste time on the drums, themselves. Just stick some microphones on them and leave them be. ……… What? You don't think that can sound good? Well? Sometimes it does. Like this: soundcloud.com/remyrad/track08 On this all the drums are gated except the overheads. Mics are placed and left. The live broadcast & archive recordings. Single pass laws stereo max. Wireless lead guitar. Wireless saxophone. Two, electronic keyboard musicians. A great, Latin Percussionist. I also do this essentially. With, no sound check no MIC check. I like to live dangerously. I love a challenge. And it was all through my, 1972, original, 36 input, Neve, audio console. Better than the one in the,, Sound City Movie...… Because Rupert Neve told me so many times. With my numerous hours of conversations with him through the years. This is actually, the first recording I made on the Neve. Because I had recently acquired it. And I only had it 99%, refurbished, restored, recovered. To like new condition. I had 2 switches that wouldn't work. Unfortunately. They were on the Latin percussion microphones. Of which there were only 2. And they were out of phase to each other but it sounds really cool that way. Just don't listen to it in monaural. The Bass guitar solo at 5:00 is just fabulous. Followed by the drum solo. Which is just so in-your-face and tight. Enjoy! I loved recording it. I'm also one of my own favorite engineers. My other favorite engineers from my first influences. In order of appearance. Geoff Emerick, the guys at Motown, George Massenburg,, Bob Clearmountain, Bruce Swedien. And it's nice to know them all personally and/or you have grown up around or worked with them. And I picked up a few things along the way I guess? Like, Technique.. And I could repair their stuff. I just finished selling everything off I'm retired now. The last of the Neve is, almost accounted for. I'll miss it dearly. I've been using it since 1984. Since I worked for NBC-TV for a couple of decades. And purchased it in 1996. Resorted to brand-new. I just came out. What a run. Over 50 years. And still going strong. It'll live long beyond me. Enjoy the fruits of my effort. There's a whole lot more. RemyRAD
Nice advice. I didn't care much for a dead sound but the information from trial and error is invaluable. It's something I just haven't tried. And the playing here with the duo really made me more of a fan of this sound - nice tasteful beats & chops. Good music too. That Fluff beater I like because with a somewhat high tune for me, it gives it a sound of the bass from subs in the trunk of car that I like for a hip hop sound I guess. I use to always tune drums just based on getting an even tension. And it worked for a general 'sound', but after Aron's tuning video I realized how resilient drum heads are, and you can tune them a lot without needing a new head every time you go too high or something; and maybe most important tune to a even sound around all the lugs but also feel it out, find where the head wants to be with your preferred head tension. I like to play off the rebound so I usually tension high, but don't want a jazz style tuning too. Kind of in the middle. Ive found it's possible. Thanks man, you inspire 🤙
