how to get that 90's INDUSTRIAL GUITAR TONE 

hi guys! Just wanted to clarify that I wasn't trying to replicate any particular tone. I wanted to create a tone that sounds 90's and that is accessible for everybody, taking bits and pieces of known bands setup! I almost went the ZOOM9030 way but I might keep it for another video ;) hehe I'm curious, let me know what you guys are using!

Oh baby, I'm gonna make sounds like it's 1994 all over again!

Sick! I could almost hear George Bush Sr. talking about the need world order

This has been my favourite type of metal since I was a teen in the '90's. You really nailed the vibe. I would love to hear your take on the industrial metal in the style of early Fear Factory and Strapping Young Lad.

That guitar sound instantly reminded me of some early Rammstein songs. Well done, even without a Triple Rectifier type plugin.

Holy crap you posted this literally the day I needed it! You're amazing haha thanks a bunch for this payload of info

The video I was waiting for! 🤘

Perfect timing for this video. Keep it up!

From what I’ve discovered the Rectifier is the secret sauce for that industrial sound. It has a growl to its high gain that I’ve never heard from any other amp. I wish I knew what it was about that amp that creates it.

Great stuff! Thanks for this

The tone on the guitars in these type of albums is lots of layers of super thin and fizzy guitar , the key to the heavy part of the sound is lots of layered bass synths ( That's the heavy sound and thump you hear and love ) . Even the bass guitar is way back in the mix , again with layers and layers of bass synths over the top of the bass guitar .

The timing you released this video couldn't be more appropriate... Since last week I've been chasing those 90"s tones...thank you!

Thank you, great tutorial

I got my rackmount Marshall JMP-1 around 2000 I believe, and still have it. You nailed it, thanks for putting this great video together.

That song has been my wake-up alarm for over a decade. Gets me up everytime.

Great job man. I appreciate you taking the time to watch all of the videos, documentaries and interviews to find this info. I’m a huge fan of the Nails, Ministry and Manson guitar sound. And like you mentioned in the beginning of the video, a lot of the times they’d go direct through a pedal. No amp. To get that tin and tearing sound. Great job, I’m going to look into that amp sim.

I'm basically going to be able to make everything I ever wanted just from watching the videos on this channel hahaha! Well done mate. Love your work.

Actually very nice!!!

Definitely know those drum beat and guitar riffs. "What we are dealing with is good and evil, right and wrong."

Great tone.

I've been chasing the guitar tone from NIN's wish for a few years. Finally nailed it and no I am sharing how I did it.

The go-to trick we used to make huge 80s/90s guitars was a reverb with a massive size, but super short tail. You shouldn't hear the tail at all, really. Usually we had cheap crappy verb rack mount units, not high end one's. And if the verb couldn't shut down the tail fast enough you could use a gate, but those can get very chattery easily so better to do it on the verb itself. After you dial in the "big", add tone color and character by adjusting other parameters on the verb. Honestly, almost everybody had low end affordable gear and all of it could get you pretty much any tone you wanted. Don't get hung up on what the gear was... go for the production technique instead and explore the tonal ranges.

i love this channel

Very nice! Might have to try and go at the 90s Industrial Metal sound sometime lol

your tone its really good manm, reminds me the black album

Back in the late 90s we got the sound on the guitar by using a humbucker (Epi SG in my case) direct into a Boss DS-1 fed into the main board. The pre on the mixer was blasted too as that added sympathetic harmonics and tamed the harshness just enough. Double tracked, panned and EQ'd (also sometime the tone knob/gain moved a smidge) and you'd have a brutal sound. We'd also put drum sounds through various guitar preamp and pedals to fuck them up.

great video. can you please also let us know what guitar was used and with what pickup / pickup selection. Its cool how you used the different mics left and right, i think to make it even wider, you could double track the guitar and pan it left and right, i always do that for anything heavy. :D

Sick af video!

Ha. Very good. I was missing some lows/low mids in the final mix of everything, but you definitely dialed in the aggression. I was opening for, or mingling with, a lot of the bands in that scene when they came through NYC in the 90s. From what I observed or asked about: Ministry was definitely big on that JMP. Without any cabinet. Just direct into the board. At least on the recordings. Rammstein was a mix - Richard used guitars with EMGs into a Dual Rectifier and Paul used guitars with passive pickups into a SansAmp. I think that specific combo (especially when Paul went fully to Les Pauls) is a big component of their guitar sound. NIN and Manson (because Trent produced the Manson albums with those tones) used various amps (often Marshall 800s or 900s, and JMPs) but did a lot of signal shaping with pedals or post-processing. Some of the huge tones (like on Suck) came from tracking the guitars at double-speed (tape) an octave above the part. When you slowed the tape back down, the parts were back at the right octave, but the timbre was brutal and huge. KMFDM was passive pickups originally into a Soldano SLO100, and later a Mesa Triple Rectifier. I should also note the guitars that showed up a lot were (but not always) Gibsons of that time period, especially Les Pauls. The 498T bridge humbucker gives a particularly bright, aggressive sound, and when you combine it with the maple top on (most) Les Pauls of the time, it really has teeth and makes “that tone” easier to get. It’s a funny thing. I have spent a lot of time trying to dial up tones like that in the box, and I’ve had pretty good success, but last month I plugged my 90s Les Paul into my SansAmp PSA-1 -> Rocktron Solid-State PowerAmp -> Cabinet with Vintage 30s, and that sound was still RIGHT THERE. A big cheat is taking that Rackmount SansAmp unit (which you can get in plug-in form), going to preset 46 (Pantera), and dialing it a little (more low end, maybe less shrill). That will get you there quickly too.

So underrated!!!

A Rennaissance. I'm down. Lets Jam

You got a new abo

awesome bro, I love Ministry, NIN and Fear Factory, very good old days, oomph is great too! maybe a boy harsher/ultrasunn inspired as next preset pack? I love this kinda of delay + reverb also in basslines, what u think? keep the good work! :)

You nailed it! What did you use to get that throaty bass tone?

one of my favorite industrial guitar tones was Skinny Puppy Death. Amazing brash upper mid spike with rolled back highs. Screams celestion greenback to me.

90’s WaxTrax bass studio set up was a Roland JC120 head ran into a Ampeg 8 x10. It was set up in studio B at Trax Studios in Chicago.

Good video

I love that you use a shout from join in the chant by nitzer ebb from Douglas McCarthy as your bleep sound for cuss words in quotes 🤣👌

90s industrial guitar tone, and my mind immediately goes to Powerman 5000 ❤

You forgot one more Secret. Run your guitar through a bass amp. I used to use a Fender bass amp for this. Hi treble and and keep the bass knob dialed in a little higher than the mid. Keep the mid above the 2:00 position

Trent used turbo synth and zoom effects which is worth looking into

2:30 Ministry - N.W.O

There JMP1 preamp has a speaker emulator output. Sounds like a low pass filter, but i used it in 2004 to record a demo and sounded ok! I always imagined some of this bands plunged in direct and used some kind of Palmer speaker emulator!

Marlon Manson guitars go hard

That drum beat is NWO by Ministry. Could also kinda be Sonne from Rammstein.

SUUUPPPEEERRRRR!😎

Gonna throw my old pod farm 2.5 a lot for this genre

Hey man , i love the video!!... killer sound!! My question is, are you french canadian ?😊

Another good place to sample guitar riffs is slayer. Can’t remember the name but there’s a KMFDM track that uses one. Good stuff.

You can also get more high end out of the guitar tone by pitting the mic fight at the dust cap of the speaker.

90's industrial guitar tone, aka the sound of my upbringing!

All you need is a Ibanez with emgs and a boss metal zone plugged in directly and maybe a bit crusher for some tones

Ministry 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

I was curious about this too and I asked Richard Patrick what he used on wish when he was in Nine Inch Nails. He told me he used to JCM 2000 and a Marshall valve state. This led me to purchase a super crush 100 so that I had a non- tube amp to mix in to get that harshness. The super crushes apparently though not that harsh lol, but it does the job.

Thank you for this information I love that Antichrist superstar tone

And when you add *a lot* of reverb + delay, you get the tone that influenced all these bands. Godflesh

You just gotta get a metal zone pedal. You'll be fine.

Think my favorite tone from this era was Demanufacture by Fear Factory

DARUDE - SANDSTORM

The riff is copied from N.W.O. That is the song that I experienced on RAW Power back in the day and that enlightened me that there was a more exciting genre of heavy guitar music than the regular stuff that I'd heard up until that point. From that moment on, "Industrial" entered my vocabulary and I'm very grateful for that fact.

JMP-1 was released in 1992, so rather late for this style, and Ministry used jcm800 on Psalm 69 If I'm not mistaken (probably boosted by OD for obvious reasons). So... I don't think it's the amp to get that kind of sound, it's more about cab (or lack of it) and processing.

Very cool video! Indeed, very 90's! The beat was lifted from Ministry NWO... Et je suis presque 100 % certain que t'es Québécois ;)

It's funny because I love Ministry and NIN, but I fking HATE the JMP-1. During that time I was also into Sepultura, Deicide and of course Justice era Metallica...so I raged through a Mesa Triaxis, with a Quadraverb GT+ and a 32 Band graphic in the effects loop, with a Marshall 8008 Valvestate power amp...and a stereo Marshall 1960 slope cab with all the speakers replaced with EVs 10-12dB more efficient than Celestions. It was unearthly, but I sold it after 9-11 for dirt money because I was made redundant as a telecom engineer. If I had that now...

2:35 Pailhead - Man Should Surrender?

1:27 hah, Nitzer Ebb ❤

I thought all these bands used mainly SansAmp. I'm surprised.

The Drum Beat sounds like Ministry - N.W.O to me.

Step 1: Turn mids all the way down. Done!

Why does the sound sample sound like NWO, by ministry?

And KMFDM.

Could it be "a new world order" by Ministry ? (02:40)

I like filter and stabbing westward guitar wise tone

That's alot of work and research. Nicely done by the way. But the 90's industrial tone isn't realy that elusive. I've got a few different versions dialed in on my Spark, no fancy gear needed! I was there in the 90's. I graduated high school in 92. Back then we were getting those tones out of a used Digitech RP1 and a crappy, BUT LOUD, Crate 2 12 combo amp!

Yes I also love Marlon Manson 😂😂

trent reznor used Turbosynth all over The Downward Spiral

N.W.O. by Ministry!🤘🤘🤘

how to get the tone playing live in a club though, not from computer

Links 1 2 3 drumms?

Would that be N.W.O. from Ministry's Psalm 69?

who was that in the very first clip?

drums sound like Ministry's "N.W.O." to me

I just wanna know how to make the guitar tone from golden Age of grotesque

I think they used lots of compression, plus a noise gate too. And maybe looped rhythm guitar, and multitracked playing the same thing. I loved that that guy used an Iceman guitar too. That made me laugh, but it worked.

Mix in a sine wave into a distorted guitar

KMFDM? Gravity Kills?

"NWO"

Damn thatz quite sizzlun !!!!!!@ieeeeeèee

I read somewhere that KMFDM was simply trying to replicate classic Metallica rhythm tones.

Sky-high with a heartache of stone You'll never see me 'cause I'm always alone Edit: thanks, now I'm going to listen to Psalm 69 for another week of my life probably🙃

its ministry nwo is what your song sounds like

Rammstein Voice: Without. With.

N.W.O. -MINISTRY is dtum track

Sounds like Nailbomb

Missing KMFDM in this video

Omg nobody will guess where the song drum beat came from 🤣🤣🤣

First !

"...we're not gonna make that same mistake."

The song is given up by linkin park😂

Sphincter flex

nwo