Unf*ck Your Master (Limiters Are KILLING Your Low End) 

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Thanks for the shout-out! Power to the delta!

Indispensable channel. This channel helped me clear up long standing questions I've had and help me fix holes in my production game.

Wow, this explains so much of what was happening in my final master.

Clipping almost always sounds best from a delta perspective, since it’s usually chopping off the least information as possible.

Great tip, I instantly subscribed to your channel. I'm a composer that often mixes/masters out of necessity, and tips like these help save a lot of time. Thanks!

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solid material, cant wait to put this to use!

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great advice thanks!

Bro just confirmed my suspicions about my mixes thank you 🙏

Very interesting, thank you for this

This is some crucial advice for both experienced and new producers. It gets so frustrating when the limiter squashes a perfectly good low end. Thanks for this!

Goodman the production quality is top notch!

Sick video

Sick tip. Had a master finished today and I went back and applied this and it's much cleaner. Appreciate you!

The absolute goat! Also one thing that has helped me is trying different limiters from different brands! All of them adds a different character to your track!

Thank u man, ive been struggling too mich with thia issue.

this is a game changer for me. I struggled with that for years !!!

This is an amazing trick! Thank you for sharing it :)

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Thank you! These videos and this channel has clearly explained a lot of mysteries I have been puzzled and troubled with for years! Keep up the great work! You have surely helped make my journey a whole lot more fun and with more confidence! 🙏

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It helps the transient clarity as well, that mixing engineer is brillant.

What???? This is mind blowing!!!

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I thought I was going to be disappointed. One channel says you need this, the next the very opposite...🙄 But you explained it pretty well. Makes more sense than before I watched. 👍

Ok you got me curious!

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I come here for Moose & stay for the mix tips LOL jokes aside, the LPF trick is kinda similar to LPF'ing the kick & bass momentarily to see how well they are balanced in the mix (level & EQ wise). so much in a mix it seems, revolves around whether the low-end is setup properly... its so delicate. lots of work to get it good, but so easy to destroy it. this tip should prevent that. appreciate it sir!

Yeah, I often use the "Hard Rock transient" (or similar) setting in Pro-L on HipHop. And it works pretty well

I never thought about listening to the delta of just the low end (with heavy low end music), and keeping track of lufs. While trying different limiter options. Also, I think I need a Limiter that has more options🤣

This Help[ed a Lot, thank you very much

thanks for the tip! wow! could you pleaseeee do a video about phase shifitng in EQ !!!!?!!

Great video. I use IRC 3 clipping with fastest setting since it came out. I find it to be the best for 99%.

5:10 threw me off guard... As -20 LUFS is actually louder then -30 LUFS... And that extra 10LUFS comes from distortion of IRC4, as our ears perceive higher spectrum frequencies as louder. So in short IRC4 was both louder to the ear md had higher measurement. But it squashed the signal more (to the point of distortion) ...Nevermind, was just quick on the trigger, someone pointed it out already in prev comments 😅

get your mix right before sending into master bus

Are there reliable configurations that almost any drum/synth/bass/etc will fit into? Or do most producers kinda go through this process tuning and selecting plugins for each individual instrument as they go? Ive been doing the latter for a long while, looking to streamline the process by finding a reliable initial configuration in which i can get straight to making music a little quicker

Excellent tutorial and tips, thank you. Quick question: around 4:50 (when talking about different limiter settings and LUFS values), are you correct to say that those IRC 3 Balanced, Crisp and Clear algorithms had "higher LUFS values" than that IRC 4 Modern algorithm (which "had a lower LUFS measurement")? At the risk of making myself look foolish here, is the reverse not true: they all showed negative LUFS values and so did the IRC 4 Modern, which was closest to zero, not have the higher LUFS value (as it had the least negative value)? Cheers.

I'm confused at 4:57 I get that those were the better responses for the low end for your track, but how are those higher LUFS values? IRC 4 had the higher value than any of them. Wouldn't the goal then be lower values?

I use standard clip on hard clip setting just a touch before I go into the fab filter pro L2

Something I’m about to try : hooking my MacBook up to my car stereo via HDMI and mixing in my car Lol!

Do soft clippers crush the low end that way the limiter does?

Doesn't having low end in the delta signal just mean that it is being compressed, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, isn't it? Id even say that if the low end is very dynamic it can sound thin, compared to the rest of the mix. Still a good thing to keep this effect on low end in mind when mastering though so good video

Typically I click the Delta button or the headphones button on the fab pro l and I wanna hear the whole mix and when I do I know I got it right

Mixing is all about learning how frequencies sum up,how to tame dynamic range to gain more RMS or Lufs,with proper techniques like eq,saturation,compression,clipping,even limiting,once this is things are mastered you will never have a particular frequency issue.Something I learned from Baphometrix RU-vid channel,he teaches mixing like no other.🙌🙌🙌🙌

Simply use a clipper and then you can put a limiter.

That's why modern Limiters have an adjustable Adaptive Feature. Newfangled Elevate (26 Bands!!) , Sonible Smart Limit, Slate FGX2 are the best on the Market right now imo. Forget Izotope & FF L2. They are not that bad, but also not very good. 😉

when I have more low end energy with a limiter than a soft clipper.

so the more bass and kick we hear in the delta, the more they're crushed and the worse they are managed by the limiter? but if the lufs level is low, maybe that's what we want, if we want our track to sound loud ?

Limiters aint killing your lowend if u know how to use ur shit. I tend to get a denser more punchy lowend by utilizing some saturation Eqing and limiting the lowend itself and compressing it with the rest (depending on the incoming signal and the allaround style anyway) and I usually have a more bass heavy mix.. Well also depends on the limiter anyway

What are you listening for when playing the delta?

Interesting video… 5:09, did you mean higher?

Sidechain filter and clipper before limiter should be enough

-20 is higher than -30 :)

was the lowpass put before the limiter or after the limiter

why do these videos always have car commercial music in the background? lol

I never put a limitier on the master, I use a compressor just to have more headroom. Attack n Release times are attenuated to balanced times.

Use soft clipper instead of limiter.

I use waves ultramaximizer

The thing that I don't like about these limiter plugins is they are a black box. I'd rather know exactly what they are doing (and be able to tweak it). I prefer to visually see this stuff in an oscilloscope or similar over A-B testing, and many limiting/masterbench type suites don't even have a way to solo the clipped part of the audio anyway. So what is it that's _actually_ killing the low end? Is it that the limiter is overworking and we need to do some more aggressive waveshaping/clipping to smooth out the transients without losing punch?

3:09 what headphones are those, and are they your go-to headphones for mixing/mastering? :)

Is that izotope maximizer ozone 11?

but isn't this why a pro would compression (with a sidechain) instead of a limiter on the master and why you should only really clip 1or 2db max after you have a balanced master?

Sub frequency? JBL Partybox 310: Not a problem. No subwoofer needed.

what about a multiband limiter ?

Or maybe just clip a real AD converter (or at least incorporate that stage to minimize limiting)

Can I send my tracks to moose for reference?

I think allround algorithm in pro l2 does the same thing

Gain stage, balance and use clipping and saturation on each channel and buss while mixing. 3db limiting is way too much for a single limiter, that’s why you’re loosing the life of the mix.

How did they use to mix Donna Summer songs with amazing dynamic range

Did anyone find the right setting for modern edm or pop on Pro L?

does anyone know how to do this in fl Studios maximus?

I just developed a careful and almost maniacal way of mixing that I don't even need mastering many times (which is more a "finalization" and a loudness increase than an actual mastering, which is the process to uniform the various tracks of an album or a compilation). I put an utility device (Ableton live user here) setting the gain at + 6 on the master bus first, then I mix peaking even at +3dbf on the master bus, mainly paying attention to not get distortion on the low frequencies when it peaks at +3 (so carefully sculpting kick and bass and making them perfectly balanced and unmasked). When the mix is done, before the utility gain at +6, I put 1 eq with some subtle cuts where its needed + 2 Pro C2 in series both with 4x oversampling but with different behaviors, to tame all the exceeding peaks and bring them under 0 dbfs + another eq to rebalance everything if something get out of place after compression and/or to give some color accordingly with my tastes. At the end, after the +6 gain, I put a Pro L2 with transparent algorithm, attack 0, release by ear, no channel linking, no true peak, 16x oversampling and ceiling at -0.2. If needed, I use to slightly clip the utility gain to go into the limiter instead of using the input gain of the limiter (I don't know why, but the result is different and it keeps the transients more intact than increasing the input of the limiter). At this point, I have a final mix which sounds like it was already finalized and exactly how it should sound in my mind, and it happened that when I asked someone else to do the mastering they just ruined everything (for my perception of how it should sound). So I get to the conclusion that not every song necessarily needs to be "mastered" if it sounds already as it should sound to you (and depending on the genre obviously). Even if it's -10LUFS it sounds full and DYNAMIC, not squashed to death, like you can't even listen to it at full volume because everything becomes TOTAL CRAP. If, eventually, for whatever reason, i decide to let someone else to do the "mastering" process, I just delete everything on the master bus and bounce the mix as it is (so it will peaks around -4dbfs more or less) but working this way I already know the real loudness potential of the track so I know how much the mastering engineer can push it without losing the carefully crafted balance of the mix that. If I just want to add "analog flavor" to the processed "finalized" mix, I just bounce it at - 3db and I just let the mastering engineer do his job, tastefully "coloring" the sound.

Why not limit the higher freq only like from 500hz and up?

Multiband anyone?😂TDR Kolesnikof compressor does the job nicely. fab mb also. But the most important is the mix is bad you should not be doing this on the master. Do it in arrangment gain staging or mixing stage . Compress clip and saturate individualy. Ofc beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder, so u can do whatever with your mixes, but in my experience its easier to have stuff fixed there rather then going thru presets on a single limiter thats reducting 3-4 db. Unless ofcourse the limiter artifacts is what your going for might be pleasent to your ear so who cares😂❤im drunk sorry

You forgot to add the formula to calculate the minimum allowable Attack and Release times to avoid introducing additional distortion, based on the Track's lowest fundamental frequency... (Nick Delorenzo aka Panorama Mixing who was mentioned in the vid, covers this in several videos BTW)

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Thank you so much for the tips! Please do blink though, had to rewind a couple times because I was captivated by you staring into my soul 😂❤